EA Says Star Wars Battlefront 2 "did not go as planned"

From GameWatcher: "It only took Star Wars Battlefront 2 a mere few days to go from one of the most anticipated titles of last year, to, quite possibily, its most infamous. The controversy surrounding its pay-to-win loot box progression not only made reddit history, with the most downvoted comment of all time, but also spurred state institutions into investigating loot boxes themselves.

[ARESWARLORD]

No they planned to nickel and dime the gamer and that didn't work out well for them

[RosweeSon]

And to make it worse use one of the biggest names around. Star Wars deserved much better than EA trying to rob people on another yearly churn. Just imagine if a great developer like rockstar or rocksteady had had the Star Wars license that would have been amazing

[senorfartcushion]

Everybody! Do the dance of joy!

[DrumBeat]

EA are absolute shit.

[Majin-vegeta]

Aside from all the bullshit that went on.The game is now a blast to play.

[TimelessDbz]

Anthem hype \o/

[THRASHMOUTH]

I find it hard to believe that Anthem will be any different.

[rdgneoz3]

@thrash. If they stick to what they've said, microtransactions will only be cosmetic and you see what you buy, not random loot boxes. If they reverse that, then people will be pissed.

[ZorinInc]

Anthem will suck and shame on you for support Battlefront II. Gamers are dumb and have no backbone.

[Exoil]

Piss off mate, you ain't the one deciding what games one should or shouldn't play

[Majin-vegeta]

I bought it used so....🤷‍♂️

[bloop]

After I told everyone I know not to get me this game last year for Christmas, It was still bought as a gift for me. I played the campaign, which was awful, then it sat collecting dust for nearly a whole year. After all the patches and balancing I was curious to see what it was like and put it on a few weeks ago. What can I say........... the game is actually good and I've been playing it every now and again since, and having fun with it. It was a complete mess at launch and purely pay to win, but they seem to have balanced everything now. I didn't think I'd ever say it as I was firmly sat on the boycott wagon. I still despise EA though.

[uth11]

Battlefront II was never pay to win. they removed the ability to pay for loot crates the same day it released due to the controversies

[CorndogBurglar]

@ uth11

You're talking semantics. Yes, Battlefront 2 launched with no ability to pay real money. But the game was designed 100% around nickel and diming the community with a pay 2 win system. So much so that it would have taken literally 1,000's of hours to unlock everything in the game without buying loot boxes.

Not only that, but the ONLY reason EA took away the pay option is because of the amount of backlash the community gave them when the beta was released.

Again, the game was totally built around needing to buy loot boxes that it took EA an entire year to redo the entire progression system.

So don't try to give us this crap about the game never being pay 2 win. Once they took away the pay option gamers were stuck with a game where you could only grind for countless hours to unlock characters and Star cards. They even turned around and lowered the requirements to unlock things so wasn't such a grind. But at the end of the day the damage was done. Sorry, but until they release several games that have better progression that doesn't require anything to be paid, I will not buy another EA game. Battlefield 5 looked like they were doing just that, but then they had to throw in all the PC nonsense and release an unfinished game. So again, no buy from me.

They need to get back to making good games. Period. No BS. No PC nonsense where it doesn't belong. No forced agendas. Just make and release a good, finished product that isn't going to cause any contraversy.

[T2X]

People can support whatever they want. Curious, what games do you like? By your reasoning, whatever you answer with, I'll just say "Ha, you're dumb and have no backbone shame on you for supporting crap you like. Stupid sheep" See how that looks in text?

[Born2Game83]

We have EA to thank for loot boxes being looked down upon these days. It was there before in games like Overwatch. But people didn't really think too much of it until the whole BF2 fiasco.

[milohighclub]

Lootboxes have been looked down upon since the beginning of lootboxes.

[CorndogBurglar]

You couldn't be more wrong.

Loot boxes were never accepted and a lot of people were never okay with them.

Battlefront just blew the whole idea of Loot Boxes out of proportion because they took it to a new whole new level by creating a game that had a progression system based entirely on spending money.

Games like Overwatch were not viewed as too egregious because you only unlocked cosmetic things. The progression system was not based on spending money on boxes for items that you had no idea what they contained.

Don't kid yourself into thinking that people were okay with either. There is an very large group of people that believe that if you buy a game then it should have all unlockables in the game and a reasonable way to unlock it all through gameplay. Even Overwatch becomes harder and harder to earn enough points to open Loot Boxes through gameplay.

[pyroxxx]

Owerwach is nothing compared to fifa,.. which basically instituted online gambling to get ahead of other players,..That is why this crap is so compelling to gamers,.. I know their stock crashed a lot ,.. (It is still 40 times overpriced,.. but that is every US company)

[BrettAwesome]

Yeah. I quite enjoy it too. I bought it does cheap, picked up the trophies for the campaign, and have since had a lot of fun with galactic assault or whatever the 64 player mode is called. Progression is decent too

[Spenok]

Wholly agree, the game is awesome now.

[Blu3_Berry]

Well who's fault is that exactly? Got no one to blame but your greedy hands EA.

[Mothman1984]

EA = Electronic Accountants

[-Foxtrot]

Next year...

"EA Says Star Wars Battlefield V "did not go as planned"

[ClayRules2012]

For real.

They’ll just keep saying this kinda stuff with each new game. Greed & Stupidity is definitely strong at EA.

[Shikoku]

It went as planned they just didn't expect people to be smart enough to understand what they planned.

[TheColbertinator]

Of course not. You all tried to push your Pay 2 Win garbage

[Father__Merrin]

Does this have a proper single player campaign

[SonyStyled]

The game came out over a year ago, and was quite descriptive of what would be included compared to 2015 battlefront

[bloop]

It's not worth getting just for the single player. It was a major bore and I had to force myself to finish it.

[senorfartcushion]

Yes, but no. The campaign is there, but it is a pile of wank.

[Father__Merrin]

Is it one of those campaigns that's just offline multiplayer with story chucked in

[Hungryalpaca]

It has a linear stereotypical story of bad guy gone good for no reason other than the feels.

The AI is as dumb as a newborn and the level design is awful. Plus it’s only like 4 hours.

It’s bad.

[Atomicjuicer]

It feels and plays really clumsily like they took some multiplayer stuff and tried to mash it into a story thing.

[Nodoze]

What a bunch of no talent ass clowns the EA exec team is. They have one of the most powerful and far reaching licenses in all of the world....and have dropped the ball. Not once, but twice. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....Disney needs to push for breach of contract and sell licensing rights to other studios. ASAP.

[TiredandRetired]

What's frustrating is that the development team (the programmers, artists, sound design, etc) are extremely talented. These guys have worked elsewhere in the industry and are where they are because of their portfolios. It's obvious they pour their passion into it...

It's the damn executive suits that come in and s*** on that hard work and passion. There's a reason why EA consistently makes the list of top worst companies to work for.

[cyclindk]

Seriously, what programmer/designer sits around thinking of ways to design loot boxes and game economics to drain their users... Answer = none, that's the ol' corporate greed rearing it's ugly nerfherdery head.

[rainslacker]

I have no doubt that Disney could pull the license and publishing agreement at any time for any reason. When it comes to star wars, they pretty much have all the balls on their court, and publishers who want a piece of it do what Disney demands of them.

[Immorals]

Disney haven't exactly been good for the franchise..

[rainslacker]

I know. I've said as much in another comment on this very thread.

[bloop]

@Nodoze: I wish Disney would just sell the whole Star Wars franchise to someone else altogether. Regardless of TLJ taking a major dump on the entire saga, it was one of the worst films I've ever seen and I honestly can't understand how it was given the go ahead after any sane person (there had to be at least one sane person) read that script.

[SegaGamer]

Totally agree bloop. I was excited but cautious at the same time when Disney bought Star Wars. Now though, I wish it never happened at all. They absolutely destroyed Star Wars, ruined some of the biggest fictional characters ever created, and left it in the hands of somebody who is pushing their real life political beliefs into it.

TLJ was by far the most disappointing movie I have ever seen.

[Nodoze]

1 Billion times agreed. Rian Johnson is a POS SJW virtue signaling clown. He DECIMATED Luke Skywalker, and destroyed any and all hope I have for this entire franchise moving forward. He is positioned as a visionary for Star Wars and was given the chance to direct a new trilogy. I shudder to think of how that is going to go. Kathleen Kennedy is another remnant that needs to be sent to the slaughter house. She is pushing her female first crap on the franchise and it is beyond ridiculous. Ask Hasbro how all of those action figures of not talent female for female sake characters are flying off the shelves....oh wait they are all peg warmers? Hmmmmm. Sorry but George Lucas was betrayed. Say what you will about him, but man have they destroyed what he created.

Star Wars is now agenda driven drivel, not worth the price of admission. I am not seeing the next one.

[EddieNX]

You're attempt to try and exploit people failed.
In the end it was a good game, but it should of been that way from the start.

[syphon32]

Of course it didn't, let that be a lesson to stop being fucking greedy and focus on making a great Gagne experience, the money will come, it's just that simple. Take a page from CDprojekt red

[Godmars290]

"Consumers weren't as stupid as we hoped, and we did not make loads of money."

[ZorinInc]

it still sold a lot of copies, a lot of stupid people will say one thing and do another when it comes to "boycotts".

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

It sold WAY less than the first game though. Millions of people decided not to buy the game

[Godmars290]

Point is, it didn't sell as much as they wanted, and what they wanted was it to sell more than any prior entry sold. Far more. Likely unreasonably more.

There have been games that sold in the millions yet that companies complained about low sales. Canceled series for that very reason.

[aconnellan]

@lucas

Do we know that for sure? I haven’t really looked around for sales figures so I’m out of the loop on that one

[Elwenil]

"Battlefront 2 did not go as planned."

Ya' think?

[micdagoat19]

It would be great if somehow people wouldn't buy NBA 2K for this same reason next year.

[Tross]

I'm guessing their plan was that we would just roll with their scheme to cheat us out of more of our money. In that case, EA needs to know its audience better, starting with the revelation that we as consumers aren't idiots, and will not treat everything that comes out of their head as pure gold out of some blind worship. If we know we're going to get swindled we're not just going to let it happen. Also, they should get off their high horse. If there was such a thing as the church of EA, its membership would have dropped ages ago. The bottom line is, we as the consumer are the people who are supposed to buy their products, so they should treat us with way more respect than they have been.

[ZorinInc]

the thing is it doesn't matter how they fix it for the third game, between battlefront II killing my interest in the series and rian johnson ruining star wars there no way I'm buying another Star Wars / EA title. I was rank 75 in the first game too.

[Baza]

And EA.. did Battlefield V go as planned??

[Nodoze]

Battlefield V - Now with virtue signaling! LBGTSKDalSMKLKLSDM DLC is coming soon. So that the .00000000003% of those that align can feel......included.

[Xaevi]

I can't believe they've had the StarWars license for so long and done nothing but two half assed Battlefront games. you have the rights to one of the biggest and well known franchises and done nothing but effed up due to your greed. what a disappoinment.

[rainslacker]

To be fair, Disney hasn't done much of worth for the franchise either. If anything, they're going to run it into the ground with all the stuff they're making for it. Star wars used to be special because it wasn't always something new. Even the crap prequels had people.excited. The first of the new trilogy was the highest grossing film in it opening weekend, in history. After that, things fell off, and I think a lot of people are going to see them because they just feel an obligation to.

[gangsta_red]

"To be fair, Disney hasn't done much of worth for the franchise either."

Amen

[Xaevi]

can't really compare what Disney has done with what EA has. still Disney has done more even if the new trilogy has been horrible so far. at least Clone Wars will be back soon, and the two spin-offs were decent. EA has DICE that were perfect for Battlefront and they made shite, they had the Deadspace dev that were perfect too and close them down. now all the pressure is on Respawn and that obviously unplanned announcement at E3 even had Respawns head confused

[rainslacker]

@Xaevi

Disney isn't complete crap with the movies or anything. They're just making it more progressive in intent, and I think they're making too much content without regard to if it's really needed. I know they want to make their money back, but surely they did that with the first movie of the trilogy. The talk of a trilogy after the current one seems overkill, because while I like the series, and realize there are people who love it, franchise fatigue can ruin anything.

[bloop]

@Rainslacker: They have been kind of crap with the movies though. TFA was just a remake of ANH. Rogue one was only ok. I haven't seen Solo but just going on what I've heard, I don't think I ever want to see it. And I won't even begin with TLJ or I could literally be here all night.

[rainslacker]

They're good summer fun movies...although they've been coming out in the winter. I actually liked rogue one. I liked it wasn't all happy ending, and the one droid actually provided amusing comic relief.

[jc12]

It wasnt just the loot boxes. The game itself kinda sucked too. I didnt bother finishing the single player campaign and played the multiplayer for 30 minutes and was done.

[rainslacker]

This is what happens when companies push things too far, too fast. People get upset, and it affects sales, makes people more diligent, and tends to cause any progress towards anti consumer goals regress by many years of hard work and misdirection of the companies....or what they call work.

Same thing happened to ms, and likely any publisher on board with the plan. They had to spend this whole gen disguising the same thing as gaas or pushing mp games much more.

[Jayszen]

EA had already lost the goodwill of many Battlefront players after the first release on this generation consoles but instead of learning, it decided to double down and try even harder to nickle and dime gamers and also give them a product that fails to compare with the original SW Battlegrounds 2 from years ago in terms of gameplay and content.

Like the studios it buys and sucks the life out of, EA does the same to franchises like Star Wars, etc. as the company and the greedy mob that run it have forgotten that good gameplay and content makes for good games which then sell by the bucketload. They want to do the minimum necessary and then wonder why a new I.P. or the new game from a former hit franchise does poorly. I gave up on EA this generation and have not regretted it - have more money for other developers games.

[BlaqMagiq1]

Naww really?

[bigmalky]

Hmmm... It seems it was only obvious to consumers.

Give it up EA. You're never going to win us over with your abusive, condescending attitude towards us lowly gamers.

[Relientk77]

The game was essentially a greedy casino with loot boxes, microtransactions, and pay 2 win. EA get what they deserve.

[Minute Man 721]

The base game is only $10 @ BestBuy

[Nodoze]

Wait longer, it will be cheaper.

[Critic4l_Strik3]

EA Says Star Wars Battlefront 2 *nickel and diming* did not go as planned. Fixed

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Imagine what they think of BFV lol.

[Tankbusta40]

Boycott EA/DICE!!!!

[tigertron]

I'm done with EA games after buying Battlefront 2. BFV can go to hell.

[SegaGamer]

I have been done with EA games for years. I can't even remember the last EA game I bought.

[Knightofelemia]

Yup I am glad to see BF 2 blew up in EA's face

[beulahland]

Noooooooooo!
Really?

[ziggurcat]

https://i.imgur.com/38BlfVp...

This just in: EA hires Captain Obvious

[Artemidorus]

No shit.

[warriorcase]

No shit

[Parasyte]

You think?!

[Chexs1990]

Hahahaha "didn't go as planned" might be the understatement of the, still very young, century 😂

[Soy]

I think it turned out exactly how anyone with a brain expected.

[CrystalFantasy3]

The game is okay but I want more sandbox battlefield 4 gameplay rather than what we have. I dropped after 2 months.

[LandoCalrissiano]

That's ok, neither did Disney's last 4 films.

[EricLane]

Made a typo. It says Star Wars Battlefront 2. Should read Battlefield V.

[yoshatabi]

No.

[AK91]

Good

[jznrpg]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Cikatriz_ESP]

No shit.

[Scatpants]

They planned to rip a bunch of people off with a shell of a game and make a lot of money. Glad it didn't work out.

[bellome]

Not enough microtransactions EA. Try harder next time!

[InTheZoneAC]

lol article states this is a FPS, how clueless are gaming journalists they don't know this is primarily a TPS?

[Atomicjuicer]

It’s clearly designed as an FPS first and foremost. The TPS is tacked on.

[Mister_Wolf]

Yeh nor did 1. Nor did Battlefield 5. Fucking idiots.

[Dom_Estos]

https://vignette.wikia.noco...

[campofmusic]

No Shit Sherlock

[AnubisG]

What has gone as planned for EA in the past few years? If EA plan is to destroy franchises and studios than in that case, everything is going according to plan😁