Agheil writes - " Fellow gamers, we gave all this hate towards EA, Activision is adding weapon supply drops tomorrow, where you can purchase COD points with real world money to get. "
Ok guys listen why dont we join forces and start raging against any and all mallpractices in the gaming industry? I mean look at what happend to Hollywood and the sexual assault charges flying left right and center like crazy, its like a Tsunami against those who did wrong to others. Tell me it aint working!
Let Battlefront 2 be the start of a Tsunami against MTs in games. Lets get our voices heard once and for all.
I would be interested to see if Sony or Microsoft get a cut. If not why can't they implement a system similar to Phones where they can be blocked entirely.
@ultranova RIGHT ON! The biggest voices is NOT buying a game and not pre ordering a game. See the recent ones for why they are not doing a tenth as well.
Battlefront being the biggest from being by FAR the run away number one to dropping out of the top 10. It is the largest IP on the PLANET by the largest publisher on the planet and we won with money votes and loud voices.
The only person that can't effect game publishers is the one that does not know he can.
You see Money is a direct vote and repeating comments is like a negative news story for a politician, it will cause them to lose the election. When a ostrich sticks there head up and defends this stuff and say you cant do anything about it. Call them the ostrich and defeated fool that they are.
I stopped buying COD long ago. A lot of good it's done. Lol
Activision and EA have been up to the same kind of stuff for a long time. At least before they used to keep it more in the background but now they're just making their whole games around it without any shame at all whatsoever.
IMO WW2 weapons are well balanced. I've unlocked some of the Heroic versions of the weapons, and never felt it was an advantage, in fact I use default guns over the unlocked guns. I haven't purchased any loot boxes, and don't know anyone who has, but I'm sure there's plenty of folks that have spent their hard earned money on those things. If there's any advantages being created for people who buy these loot boxes, I haven't felt that way. Also the reason this stand off was so effective against Star Wars, is because it was caught before release, and also because it isn't COD.
I know why....It is simple. Remember that scripture in the book no one reads? A QUOUTE: WHAT IS IN A NAME. The last word. NAME
It is not called Loot box people dont associate it until after they wasted their money on it.
Case in point Donald Trumps Tax Cut plan. It is named CUT so naturally you would assume that most people will get a CUT. But since most people are not Rich they will recieve a increase. Because people go by judgmental reasoning which is assuming.
If it was called Loot boxes or Micro transactions people would get it. DONT BE FOOLED by a name.
At least sledgehammer made it easy to get Supply drops for free and you have a higher rate of getting them. Also this is COD its been having Supply Drops for like 5-6 games now.
Every single thing EA does is for money and they don't deserve any gratitude. No passion for gaming anymore and they need to leave the gaming industry. I can't hate activision the same way.
The conversation here is that this is still a pay to get ahead aspect. Pay more get more drops, thus more chances at new weapons. This shouldn’t be ok.
I enjoy COD but if they want FTP aspect then they should go FTP. But no, more and more people are just accepting it....
EA thing is charging to get a head in the game. Activision thing is giving you only half the game to start with and then charging you extra to get the other half. I'm staying clear of both.
"Every single thing EA does is for money and they don't deserve any gratitude. No passion for gaming anymore and they need to leave the gaming industry. I can't hate Activision the same way."
That because EA is a business, they exist purely to make money.
You think that other companies don't want to make a profit? you think other developers say to themselves "we don't want to make a profit, we just want to make a good game"?
Look at House Marque, they are stopping making twin stick shooters because nobody buys them anymore and instead are getting into the "games as service" model.
Or you could understand they're both bad , i have no clue what's this obsession with this website with this (either or) that people literally fail to understand that both companies can be seen as bad for doing this practice.
I don't see this any more positive than what Electronic Arts was doing.
Well I mean there already were tons of talk and drama about the supply drops in bo3. Something I wish was heavily opposed by the mass community. Sadly people didnt care and just kept purchasing them. Now theres this and activisions patent for encouraging ppl to buy microtransactions. Would be great if the world can rebel this too lol.
Because in CoD’s case, it is extra content on top of them already putting an entire game in while Battlefront was locking the base game behind a paywall.
Yup, and battlefronts progression is like a free to play game. If I play as an assault I should unlock assault cards not random cards for classes I’ll never use.
I hated infinite warfare for this. I never got any epic cards in a rare crate. I never paid for one either. I got a ton of duplicates, meanwhile, within the first week it seemed like everyone else but me had an epic gun. It's pretty dumb actually and I wish we would could just unlock then by leveling up instead of doing heavy grinding. The ignorant ones will come out and say "git gud and it will be easier to get good guns. I think Activision is worse because you pay $60 for the game, $50 for maps and a lot more to gamble for chances. Ridiculous I say.
Not really at the moment, but new weapons are going to be added to the supply drops which could be significantly better than the current weapons and obviously buying the supply drops makes the weapons much easier to obtain than grinding to unlock them through challenges.
I think of Activision Blizzard as a snake, they're very sneaky, while EA has the balls to cross the line and fix their issues, Activision Blizzard perfected the fine balance between being scummy, and being greedy. The scummy part being having loot and making people watch others open them, and the greedy part is cod points, but as I said they're snakes, so they're so slick with it no one says anything.
Activision Blizzard is complete garbage, and no one really says much and fans tend to have short memories or see things with rose tinted glasses.I kinda think it may be the fact that they're merged with Blizzard, so while you hate Activision you love Overwatch or something Blizzard does.
I imagine most fans don't even know Activision name is actually Activision Blizzard.
COD players are typically teenagers, or too dumb to understand they are being screwed over with the same game different skin year after year; I.E. Madden/FIFA Ultimate team schemes.
'or too dumb to understand they are being screwed over with the same game different skin year after year; I.E. Madden/FIFA Ultimate team schemes.'
I wish there was an option on N4G to see the users who disagree with comments, just so I can see the (currently at time of typing) three brainwashed dumbbells who disagreed with that statement and put them on my 'dumbo' list.
Because these points are optional and there is still an enjoyable experince to be had without them not to mention an actually decently made campaign with effort put into it.
BO3 had RNG weapons and so did COD4 yet the CoD subreddit didn't do anything near the likes of which was done for BF2 with its sub reddit. Everyone hates them but they weren't loud enough and it fizzled out
Why stop with COD? Uncharted 4 had MT in the multiplayer as well but nobody made a big deal about it. We can go on and on about this but what's the point? MT's are unfortunately here to stay and there will ALWAYS be gamers who don't care and will buy them.
Yeah, and I think people will grumle about most microtransactions without making too big a fuss. The straw that broke the camel's back in SWBF2 was the fact that the game is so grindy and the star cards you unlock gives you a distinct advantage over other players. Someone who doesn't pour hours and hours into the game won't have a decent selection of cards and will objectively be at a disadvantage to someone who pours tons of money into the game. In most games with microtransactions that's not really the case.
its ok because you don't pay to win. the best gun in cod and the gun you start off with arent much different, and anything as far as competitive can be unlocked through progression. the lootboxes are pretty much for swag (cards , emblems, camo, etc. I'm having a blast with their lootboxes and theyre free (supply drops) I'm grinding away for a gold plated gun not some essential character in its universe
Just so you know. It's not okay with everyone. My stand is clear and resolute. No MT's in games, Period. Regardless of type or number. Zero in game items should be available for purchase with real world money, either directly or indirectly. That has always been my stance. Since I realised the nature of the industry changing for the worse, I have intentionly purchased NO games with MT or loot boxes, I say intentionly, because it has happened with games where it isn't obvious that 'incentives' are in the game! We need a sticker on boxes to tell everyone if they are present. I personally, don't like the term 'intense hatred' used by the article. Hate, is not a word to use casually.
It's a double standard, sure. But I view it more as those who have grown tired of Cod jumped off awhile ago, and those still supporting the game will probably grow to accept anything. (I personally stopped awhile back, I've played 1 cod in the past 5 years). So that's why there's little outcry, those who care - of course there's still those playing who care - moved on.
EA and Star Wars is a more recent/new overbearing attack on gamers enjoyment and wallets. The community viewed something pure be tainted with greed. That doesn't excuse the double standard, but I think it helps in explaining. All of a sudden they saw it clearly. And so the community said spoke up.
There was hate for weapon drop boxes and COD WW2. It is just not as big as BF2. The one hundred thousand people who spoke out against BF2 don't play COD games, that is all it is.
No company gets more shit than EA. Even in 2008, when they were pumping out original, creative IPs like Mirror's Edge and Dead Space, people hated them. Voted Worst Company in America several times, which is not even remotely close to true. Poor EA. They deserve some of the complaints they get (like with Battlefront), but not all.
Too late for the hate the games in everyones bedroom again dat promise of dem boots on the grounds blinded the masses maybe next year, We can have an adult conversation about this.
This is true! I dont understand people who are ok with this either. :-/
We need more people pushing this !
I was wondering the same ! why has no one said anything for WW2 since theyre bringing weapon supply drops ??
At least sledgehammer made it easy to get Supply drops for free and you have a higher rate of getting them. Also this is COD its been having Supply Drops for like 5-6 games now.
Well I mean there already were tons of talk and drama about the supply drops in bo3. Something I wish was heavily opposed by the mass community. Sadly people didnt care and just kept purchasing them. Now theres this and activisions patent for encouraging ppl to buy microtransactions. Would be great if the world can rebel this too lol.