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OPINION: Cuphead, TVs, and Microsoft's Console Power Problem

Microsoft continues to push the Xbox One X's graphical prowess, but 4K resolution has nothing to do with its best game of 2017.

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FallenAngel19842409d ago

"On comes the Xbox One X, which shows just how blind (or maybe just resistant) Microsoft is to their own situation. Instead of pouring more money and resources into the creation of a more compelling console-exclusive library, they focus on pure graphical power. The console is starting to seem like a Ferrari surrounded by dirt roads."

That's what I've been saying this entire time. It's especially apparent that people who aren't going to upgrade would still want Microsoft to do more to make their purchase of that console worth it

Bigpappy2409d ago (Edited 2409d ago )

Has more UHD support than the Pro. Its a UHD console for those who want one. Its not a cup head game machine. Its for games like ForZa7, Assassins Creed, Shadow of War, Wolfenstein, C.O.D, Star Wars, F1, Project Cars, destiny, Battle field, Madden, NBA, Enhanced virgins of all recent best sellers, with ultra texture, for free. Those and much, much more... what would you be playing on?

M$ as a publisher and M$ as a console manufacturer are to distinctly different things. They seem to have the console manufacturing thing taken care of with the X. Now if they want to b the main publisher for that device, this should make things a lot easier.
Cuphead is a nice game for what it is, but I seriously doubt it will win game of the year ahead of games like Assassins Creed and C.O.D.

Ashlen2408d ago (Edited 2408d ago )

Honestly, no one cares about UHD support. Physical media for video content is pretty much dead. I really stopped buying it after DVD's I only have a few Blu-ray's and I don't see myself ever buying a UHD disk. And I think that this is where the vast majority of people fall.

And you talk about all these games but they will all be on PS4, and I'm just telling you most people don't care about graphics as much as you and Microsoft want to believe. Of course people will buy the X but it's not going to be a revolution or the "everybody's" got to get this thing console that you and a few others around here think it is.

Even for enthusiasts the Pro is still the better value due to the game library. You'll be able to play all the multiplatform games at graphical fidelity that's high enough to impress plus the benefit of the exclusives. But that really doesn't even matter because the truth is the base PS4 will continue to be the best selling console along side the Switch.

GamesMaster19822408d ago

UHD support. I mean does anyone even buy physical movies nowadays ?. So the UHD player in my opinion is a waste of time. I'm personally glad Sony did not bother with one in the Pro.

edeprez2408d ago

When has an assassins creed or COD game won game of the year? I guess it's bound to have happened at least by accident by now, it's not a popularity contest.

jaekapow2408d ago

"Enhanced virgins"
Holy hell! If the XboneX comes with enhanced virgins, I'm all in!

Skull5212407d ago (Edited 2407d ago )

I’m happy as shit Microsoft made a console targeted for people like me. I got a bunch of friends and family with 4K displays and we are all eager for the X. Less than a month to go! Not even out yet and it’s outsold the Pro this year. UHD disc support is awesome too, as streaming quality is still far below discs quality at this point and will be for a long time due to internet bandwidth.

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FallenAngel19842409d ago

Many of those games are multiplatform and as discussed in this article, there's not much reason for the mainstream market to choose the premium option.

I can't believe you're trying to separate a gaming manufacturer from its first party titles

Dlaw762408d ago (Edited 2408d ago )

Me and 20 of my xbox friend list buddies is definitely getting the One X and we're not the only ones let's go Fifa and Madden Xtify

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Bigpappy2409d ago (Edited 2409d ago )

They will all play best on the X. That is a reason for many people to get it.

It's no different from gamers buying higher end cards to get games to look and play best on their PC's. They also did in in the case of the PS4 over X1. You do you think all of a sudden in the case of the X, power will now not matter. This is becoming like the head in the sand scenario. There is plenty of examples of developer having games run at higher resolution on the X over the next best console. But it doesn't stop there, they are also releasing Gigabytes of data to upgrade the textures. You know about graphics right? what kind of a difference do you think 20Gig of texture upgrades mean to a 4K image? Significant, right?
All of those games I mentioned will have extra texture on the X. Some of them would even support HDR on the pro. So the author is misguided and you seem to want to accept this to win a fanatical argument, when I think you know better.

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Ashlen2408d ago

The success of the Switch really goes to emphasize that it's games not graphics that are important.

X may be more powerful but Sony and Nintendo will continue selling 4x as many consoles as Microsoft.

Bigpappy2408d ago

To some people I am sure that's true. Nintendo is great, but I don't want a switch. I have no problem with buying one for any of my kids if that is what they want though.

When I said Xbox is a UHD device, I was referring to 4K output not the Drive. X1X is focused on UHD which doesn't always achieve 4K natively.

Ashlen2408d ago (Edited 2408d ago )

@Bigpappy

By virtue of being an Xbox fan you need to realize your actually not the majority your actually the minority. You might not want a Switch but it's a pretty safe bet that Switch is going to be the best selling console this holiday.

As for the UHD thing I'm not sure what your point is then. The Pro has 4k video and 4k not always native gaming.

Bigpappy2408d ago

My only point is that X1X is the Best option for those who want 4K gaming. Much better than the Pro for this and the switch is irrelevant to the conversation. It is not a matter of who is or isn't the majority. The point is X1X has a solid market of gamers and Cuphead doesn't necessarily represent that market, but gamers are not monolithic.

Ashlen2408d ago

I would argue that the Pro is the best play for any gaming including 4k because it has the most and highest rated exclusives.

I would rather have a base PS4 than I would an X because of the games, just sayin.

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derkasan2408d ago

Style can go a real long way.

mcstorm2408d ago

I agree if you look at alot of Nintendo games they age well because of the art styles they use.

bluefox7552408d ago

MS have had their priorities backwards this entire generation.

goken2408d ago

i know what you mean, but i don't think you're quite right there.
i think they're going with style over substance. all hype little delivery.

most power console. then releases exclusives like cuphead, crackdown3, sea of thieves, best graphics ever says absolutely no one (non fanboys).

i think hoodwink is their plan, and they're deliverying it

Kyizen2408d ago

If the games arent built from the ground up for Xbox One X (dumb name imo) and they wont be unless MS breaks it promise to leave no gamer behind then the 'visual upgrade' you are talking about is minor. They wont be pushing more polygons, effects, ect. It will be slighly higher res textures...is that worth $500??

omegaheat2408d ago

Is the Pro worth $400? By comparison it's overpriced when you consider what the X is offering. The power difference alone justifies a $100. Do you know what a $100 can buy in today's economy? Not much.

slasaru012407d ago

i think 500USD is legit. don't forget in US you will have bundles with games and also Xmas and black friday sales. it's us third world countries paying like 800USD for XOX

DivineAssault 2408d ago

I dont understand how Phil Spencer got promoted. I mean microsoft has really been going in the opposite direction one would expect or hope for.. Instead of exclusives, they did emulated BC and power.. I dont get it but oh well.. Cuphead is a game PS4 owners want.. However no matter how great it is, it is an indie game so PCs can run the base title even if the raw power isnt there.. Making what exactly an xbox exclusive for this year? Nintendo and Sony will remain selling the best imo

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Former Deviation Games Devs Have Formed A New Studio At PlayStation To Work On A New IP

Former Deviation Games developers have formed a new studio at Sony Interactive Entertainment in order to work on a brand new PlayStation IP.

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Tacoboto14h ago

Well that's an awesome and very surprising turnaround. Cheers to the new studio and what they'll build!

RaidenBlack11h ago

Likely to continue their FPS project

isarai10h ago

That's..... confusing, so shut down but just reformed and same employer 🤔 sounds like pretty much what happened to Japan Studio basically just being rebranded as Asobi

ocelot079h ago

It is odd one I don't know how business deals work or the law of that kind of stuff. But is it possible Sony reached out and said hey we want you apart of Sony but don't want to purchase you for what ever reason. How about use disband and we will open a studio and hire you guys type of thing. Is that even possible?

isarai9h ago

Maybe it's to void/bypass some contract? I have no clue

VersusDMC5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I guess the deviation team fell apart and didn't deliver good progress on what they pitched (they overhyped themselves when the team was announced)so Sony shut them down. They regrouped with a new team and a new pitch so Sony is giving them another shot.

And this time they are keeping it quiet to keep pressure down on the team. So people aren't asking everyday what deviation(or whatever the new team is called) is doing.

Edit: Also Sony never owned them. They just ended their partnership with them. Deviation decided to close on their own.

outsider16244h ago

Good point. You know, i was thinking of Days Gone too. They pitch an idea to Sony for Days Gone 2 but Sony didnt like it do they scrapped the whole thing. Maybe if a good pitch came by...they'd reconsider it.

isarai3h ago

That makes a bit more sense

lodossrage3h ago

To be fair, Sony didn't shut them down. Devation was independent. Sony pulled funding on the project they were working on. As a result, they couldn't run so Devation decided to close on their own.

roboteye5h ago

If this was MS they'd be gone.

Goodguy014h ago

Maybe make a smaller game this time?

Elda4h ago

Good for them that they were able to work it out. Hopefully they're developing something interesting.

Rainbowcookie3h ago

I think Sony is thinking long term as a replacement for Call of Duty M$ edition.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188111h ago(Edited 11h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

SonyStyled7h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

Ms3tjt5h ago

“ Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. ”

Aka

“I don’t know how business works”

Domkakop3h ago

You might need to take a good hard look in the mirror

Ms3tjt3h ago

Yeah I forgot Xbox is separate from Microsoft and Xbox borrowed the 69bn from Microsoft, and Microsoft didn’t get COD, Candy crush etc in return 😂😂👏

jwillj2k411h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot9h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody10h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

anast9h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19798h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel43m ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

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Xbox No Longer Has Its Head In The Game

Microsoft & Xbox have shut down Arkane Austin and Tango Gameworks to lay off more workers, insinuating that they're not in the game anymore.

XiNatsuDragnel18h ago

They're headless for a long time because closing tango isn't exactly a good move

1Victor14h ago

“Acquisitions always come with cuts”

343 trillion points shield activated
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All damage reduced to 1 for 343 trillion turns.
MICROSOFT DEFENSE FORCE IS A GO

Tacoboto14h ago

Especially for Microsoft, when Booty pretty much said they didn't know how to handle that many studios.

Why even make the acquisition then.

-Foxtrot13h ago

Didn’t they make the swipe for Bethesda when Sony wanted like 6 months exclusiveness for Starfield

It’s like…chill, you got Rise of the Tomb Raider for a year.

romulus2312h ago

Do they always come with senseless cuts becasue that's exactly what cutting Tango was, senseless.

H914h ago

Everyone's acting now that game companies care about games and Xbox is committing the Ultimate betrayal, they are all like this and you have just been quiet about it for far too long

Nuclearmoon13h ago

I wonder if Microsoft do pull out of the console market that it might open the door for valve to relaunch the Steambox. Competition is good for the industry but Microsoft don't even seem to be trying anymore.

UltimateOwnage10h ago

Steam / Valve are one of the few truly pro-consumer bright spots in gaming right now. Thankfully.

jwillj2k412h ago(Edited 12h ago)

“Your game has won some pretty significant awards and is a show piece for where we want to go in the future.”

1 hour later.

“We’re gonna have to let you go. You can’t cover our 100 billion dollar acquisition. Oh and take your awards too 👍🏾”

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