MICROSOFT'S Xbox One X is out this November. We've had the chance to preview the console and it really is the world’s most powerful 4K console around.
I expect nothing less :) . .
When you see it person in real-time 4k hdr on a 4k screen.... it’s amazing. Some PCs can obviously outperform it but in my opinion the One X is the closest to PC graphics a console has ever gotten. In some cases it’s hard to even tell. Hands down beautiful. It’s the reason I pre-ordered one the second I could. I was a believer after seeing in action for less than 2 min. Web videos can never demonstrate how good it looks in real life. :)
Yep, with the exception of maybe ARMA and Starcraft I'm done PC gaming. Never gonna spend $2K on a gaming rig again, those days are over for me. Glad some consoles are finally being made for people who like pretty graphics.
Which games did you see?
I mostly agree but the Xbox 360 early on had hardware that was not available in PCs at the time and out shined PCs for a short while as a result.
It is the best console, but like the Pro, it has terribly restricting CPU architecture. It's not about just the graphics. New games like Destiny 2 are a laughable 30fps. On PC you can do up to 240fps on a 240Hz G-Sync monitor.
This goes for the Pro as well the first time i saw it.
- Some things that caught my attention: - He said seeing Gears4 in 4K looked great but not amazing like Horizon ZD because it's more of an upscale than built from the ground up in 4K= I got much respect to Horizon devs for showcasing some amazing visuals on the pro. -He went on to say: "Thanks to the way Forza 7 is read by the Xbox One X, however, you suffer very little direct compression. And the result is probably one of the best things we’ve ever seen in 4K." "The game’s performance outstrips that of Gran Turismo and Project Cars at every turn, and shows a very bright future for what the Xbox One X can achieve in the hands of studios that can work with Microsoft to really get the most out of the new machine." "We also got chance to play Rise of the Tomb Raider on the One X - and from this it’s clear to see how third-party developers intend to use the technology. First thing to note is that the Xbox One X version sometimes seems to outperform even the top-end PC version of the game." -Damm that's some pretty high praise from a neutral source.
for how long exactly before it will look dated? 6 months max? and then? at least you still got a 4k console. that's all there is to it.
Hdr is very nice but let's not act like you need some special powerhouse to run it
Like all the 4K games on the Pro. Why is this exiting on the XoX only? And BTW. Destiny 2 runs amazing on a Pro. The game speed does not feel like 30fps (I feel it feels faster than Destiny 1) and it runs spotless (not a single drop) at full 2160pCB (4K) on the Pro - the only other title after HZD which could pull this off.
It's nice to know it blows the competition out of the water in graphics. It's too bad it's simply blows in the games department though.
There is no power greater than the X! November 7th cannot be here soon enough so I can play my games in the most glorious way possible.
And the sad thing for me is i will be able to purchase it when its probably outdated... Microsoft is not releasing it world wide. I am not sure when its available and i feel like kicking microsoft pr team for this in their nuts
Couldn't you import one? I know import taxes can be astronomical, but if needs must...
@Prematua Yes bro i can and i did it prior too. But theres no warranty on imported products. What i mean is even if there is a minor problem Microsoft will not even take the product for service even if i want to pay for it. Getting things serviced within the country is a big hassel... How should i manage imported one.... There is no service centre where im from. They are being shipped to nearest service center which is australia... I dont want to bear shipping charge bro 😭 Now with all these admistrative/support issues... Would any gamer want to go through these hurdles
@ Prematua And the saddest part for me is they just announced xbox one s launch date today... It will be available on Oct 6th. God knows when xbox one x will be available for me
shiva1 where do you live, just curious?
@ 4show In India. Below is the link on announcement And xbox one s 500gb fh3 version costs 30k here. If converted to US currency as of today its $468 😭 If i ask for xbox one x it will be around $760.... Why i say that because i brought xbox one for that price when it was launched in 2014 sep and i got it on dec 2014....so if i want to buy xbox one x at the price of $500 then it would already be outdated as next versions are already announced. Basically i feel like we are receiving rejected or unsold stock from launch countries 😭😭😭 http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/g...
shiva1, So if you knew someone in the US like me, who could buy an X if you gave him the $499 +tax + shipping (American dollars) and I sent you an X would that work? -I would seriously help you out as long as you paid for it, I would also help you in case of any warranty issues since it would be considered a US purchase. I wouldn't charge you anything either....and of course everything would have to be set up securely so we both feel comfortable. I don't give out private info online.
@4show Thats really nice of you bro for what you said. I can get the console shipped to me from Australia, Europe and US cause of my relatives, friends and my family. I got my OG box and 360 from Australia. Money is not at all a concern for one unit. The problem is after sale service. If the product gets damaged or mal functioned then comes the real issue. I faced this issue with 360 when i was in Australia. It was covered free off cost due to rrod. Infact it was covered in India when i came back free of cost and replacement guranteed till 2012 jan even if it was out of warranty. This was MS promise back then and it was superb. Now its totally different. If i buy it out of India then its not covered. This was the message from MS. Show bill and get service as a proof of purchase in India. I donno if it was Don Mattrick or marketing team. They simply have no interest to get their products streamlined. The most funny part.... Xbox one s vertical stand was available in India since its launch last year. But the console is launching thia Oct... What should i say to MS marketing and PR team for that.... I really dont want to take chances with MS bro but really appreciate and thanks for the offer. Edit: I will buy it when its launched here bro and i really hope it would be Oct or Nov next year.
OK, that's cool...I understand.
@shiva That sucks m8. I agree, their staggered launches do them no favours, and its in the countries where they are already way behind. But that's the problem, they aren't going to ship big numbers to territories where they would likely sit in warehouses. It sucks, but it's business. What if you imported one using a credit card? Would you be covered if it then developed a fault? I'm asking because different markets have different laws regarding credit cards.
I hope so. I mean, you're paying 500$ for a console that plays the same games as the console you already have/had.
Thats to start. I think it will have exclusives later
Xbox is the brand with no exclusive so don't do the joke "later" please.
@Channel-Live That would severly damage their credibility though. After all, they said there would be absolutely NO XbX exclusives.
MS and "damage reputation"...cough, cough...
Yeah? They got games then? Or wait, is it more PR? What an achievement they released a new console and its more powerful? Damn they really blowing the competition out of the water.
This is my issue as well. It's new hardware...of course it's going to be faster. When the PS5 is announced can we start talking about how crappy and slow the Xbox One X is then? How all the owners of said console are now peasantry? We won't even talk about the technical position the OG Xbox One will be in by that point... The PS4 was special and could be bragged on because it was faster. It had the better hardware. The PS4 Pro was impressive because it was the first mid-gen upgrade and brought some pretty substantial differences. It was interesting and fun...maybe not entirely needed but nice to see. Now that the Xbox One X is coming out and people are like "Eh, alright." all of a sudden they're fanboys and hate MS and want to suck Pony dick. Nah, it's just not that impressive. It's a bit faster than the PS4 Pro and doesn't seem to bring THAT many benefits all without the same library of games. Calm down.
you guys get triggered to fast. So what if Xbox One X is most powerful console. For almost a yr PS4 Pro is most powerful console and plays all the same games PS4 does. Its no different...oooooooh you got a couple exclusives that cant even differentiate itself from base unit on most occasions. And no shit PS5 will be better than Xbox One X. It would be the next generation of consoles. @oogly, PS4 Pro sucks, theres no need to upgrade if you have regular. Thats why i sold mine and put the money on X.😂
".oooooooh you got a couple exclusives that cant even differentiate itself from base unit on most occasions. " See, that's the thing. And you think this will be so much different for the XoX? It will be the exact same games. With the Xbox advantage that the XO games are the weakest versions today and the XoX will be the best hence the gap will be the biggest. On contrary PS4 games - especially those who push the platform - are already great on the PS4 slim, and the delta is a bit smaller. Of course the subjective perception will be muted, but subjectively it will be the same. Nobody here has actually played any of the XoX games. Yet, if I read/listen/watch the DF PS4 comparison the overall tone is disappointment - even when the game pull of a better performance and much better visuals (Destiny2, HZD) - but yet the XoX is excused if QB runs at 1440p @ 28fps. I remember their "crying" with "Sony promised every game must run better on the Pro" - in numerous titles because the framerate might have dipped 1fps below the PS4 version, yet nothing like this happens in a review like QB where it substantially runs worse on the XoX. MS oversold the XoX, and you'll find out eventually, when most of those "4K" games will run "dynamic" 4K on the Pro and pretty much will look the same. The advantage is simple mathematics, nothing more. It isn't a miracle which blows the competition out of the water. And nobody is actually interested that the very first time we do not have price parity. Does nobody care about that all of a sudden?
It is funny to me that the fanboys need all this validation with these articles everyday. It is like a chick with low self esteem, you constantly need to remind her that yes, you are attractive in your own way! Yes guys, it is still the most powerful console in the world!
It's normal, Xbox has no exclusive. They need an excuse for buying it.
You certainly dont, all xbox has ever had was the chance to gain from where its been,lol
“Xbox One X: World’s most powerful 4K console blows the competition out the water” That’s nice. I’ll stick with PS4. Can’t wait for God of War and The Last of Us Part 2.
The world's most powerful console.
Don't you mean Xpect?
Old, spec wise we already know this from 2016 E3. Its easy to do the math. But i wouldnt talk about high end gaming PC´s on the news, because that just crazy. PC gaming is another world and the jump, tech wise, is huge. A High end gaming PC got 5 or 6 times more CPU power, got 2 or more GPU power and so on. They are expensive, but reach another level. I
PC's are also not streamlined just for gaming. To simply compare specs is not really a viable way to compare the two. Forza 7 is already showing how it compares to high end PC's because that is a game that can easily compare the two since it is designed by the same studio who is pushing each platform. It will take a much more expensive PC to push the same level of performance the XB1X offers, that is the story here.
lol, bluefox and megaman why are you guys tag teaming moldy? moldy response to corroios was in fact very true with nothing off the wall or waaay out there like maybe he does at other times, the fact that he has so many downvotes without *one single common sense response shows how irrevalent that system can be n4g.
I think you are neglecting a key element here. It is called porting. It is very likely that Forza was built around all the strengths of the X1X and then ported to PC. Forza is a traditional X1 game and all the focus would be on making sure it was optimized for the X1X to showcase it. Likely it would take a more powerful PC than what is currently in the X1X simply because of being ported. It is why PC gamers always complain about the bugs and performance issues. They more often than not get ports of console games that take little into consideration of architectural differences and rely on a vastly more performant PC to make up the difference. I don't think what you are describing ever really is an apples to apples to comparison even from one PC configuration to the next. I do agree that consoles traditionally have not required as much overhead and are streamlined, but your argument there became less viable once the X1 started being built off of the windows OS platform. Windows in general is a pretty bloated OS not known for optimization or being streamlined for gaming. While the latest iterations of DX may help with graphics processing it will help less with the X1X than it will with a PC. When stepping away from graphics, the CPU, disk IO, and key components take a hit for utilizing windows. Mostly X1X in general has been becoming more like a PC meaning its less and less streamlined for gaming. Ultimately MS shifted to windows to make the porting easier so that games made for PC or vice versa had a common platform to be developed on. But doing that does come with some meaningful compromises that most people don't understand as noted above. The primary reason the X1 is getting the game support it is getting despite lackluster sales is due to portability of games. The downside is that if PC developers start porting games designed for high-end PCs, its not going to look good for the X1X without the PC devs taking a substantial time to make a higher end game work on an X1(as well as an X1 until some point when MS says that there are X1X exclusives). MS has to sell developers on the idea that it is better to build for the X1X and then just port, and that the sales for that game will be better than simply making a PC game. Despite what some think, it is a pretty good strategy given their position and has a meaningful chance of success. The X1X being powerful is only meaningful if people adopt it. The Core PS4 is still by far the Top selling console with the switch coming in second. This implies that in general people are presently satisfied with what is being offered from a graphic complexity. Maybe a couple years from now that might be a whole different story though. I wonder if this kind of upgrade wasn't premature given current sales observations. I personally predict the X1X will sell several million through the holidays based on the more hardcore fanbase being ready to upgrade. After that, it is ultimately going to fall back to the game library. I won't argue about having good games as that is always debatable. The problem is that MS has to get people to buy the games(which they have struggled to do this whole gen). If all they can seem to market and sell are 2-3 franchise exclusives at above average volumes and a handful of indie gems, that is not really promising for any massive upshift in adoption nor is it going to continue to generate the desired revenues. The biggest question on my mind is really whether the large drop in X1 sales this year is in anticipation of the X1X or if it is a warning sign. It will be interesting to observe what happens over the holidays.
Ya, Fora 7. It totally shows the superiority: https://www.youtube.com/wat... Glad you said it.
Expensive and alot bigger, this thing is tiny, have to respect the engineering
If it is quiet I will definitely respect the engineering. If it is noisy I will miss the rudimentary box with external power brick.
That's true it is tiny for what it has inside of it and respect must be given to the design and research teams at ms.
haha...yeah and about 2 to 3 times more expensive! You get what you pay for. How many people are paying for these high-end PCs though...not many
I made the leap a few years back. While I still have a special place in my heart for console gaming, playing on pc at higher refresh rates and/or resolutions has been amazing. It's also a way for me to satiate my tinkering fix. I think that something a lot of people forget is that most people have a decent computer in their house. The difference between that decent computer and a "gaming" computer may only be 200$ for a gpu. This is why I think in the long run companies like Dell and Hp are going to continue to make more affordable gaming pc and bring the entry level price back down. Also my pc is used for way more than just gaming. Xbox tried and failed to incorporate TV into their system and besides Netflix and other streaming services they haven't found something to add functionality to consoles. Hopefully they do as I did enjoy what they were going with at first. I loved their original plan for Xbox one. They were making steam boxes and nobody wanted that. Oh well.
Yet at the same time Forza 7 in high settings runs at 60fps in 4k on a 1080ti. You should look at how the pc games using 1070, 1080 and 1080ti's perform in comparison to the Xbox X. It really is doing quite well. Quantum break for example on an overclocked 1080ti can't reach as stable 60fps at 1440p. Yet it still runs in 1440p at 30fps on the Xbox X. While lower fps than the PC counterpart the pc version utilises an OC 1080ti.
I was able to run Forza 7 on max settings at native 4K with 8xMSAA enabled and hold a locked 60fps on my 1080Ti. The Xbox One X version is definitely not running the game at these visual settings or AA quality. As to Quantum Break, if you watched the video it's not 30fps on Xbox One X at 1440p and it's not the equivalent of PC max settings anyway. If you choose the 1080p mode on Xbox One X you get 30fps, while the 1080Ti can play Quantum Break at max settings with a locked 60fps in 1080p.
@opengl . Yes i agree, my point was to compare one of the most powerful gpus on the market to the xbox x. I fully expect the 1080ti to outperform it, but if you compare what the x can do next to this card then it is very impressive. Also QB runs 38-42fps. Search for quantum break 1440p benchmarks with 1080ti and you will see. So getting it running in 1440p at all on the x is impressive plus it was an early build that could improve.
sd11, I own a 1080Ti and a 1440p display, I don't need to search benchmarks. The performance comparison is pointless as the Xbox One didn't use anywhere close to the equivalent of max settings and the Xbox One X likely does not either. It's probably still the medium quality setting for lighting, which is what has the biggest impact on performance in Quantum Break. So far all the Xbox One X has done with Quantum Break is increase the resolution by exactly 4x but with worse performance than it had on the regular Xbox One. This is not an impressive outing for the system regardless of how demanding the game is, we were promised 4K or near-4K experiences with the same or better performance.
Of course this yet again deserves a fanboy comment. Same when Pro titles were laughed at when they performed worse then the standard version (despite the x amount of more pixels being rendered) when the XoX and QB does the exact same thing (performing worse than the XO with drops regularly to 28fps) this is still sold as an achievement to us. Double standards yet again - and nobody every questioned that before if there is a reason for the performance drop - why is this now a valid point? Who didn't see that coming.
The expense is not worth the bump in graphics, I know because I have spent quite a bit on my gaming rig.
Worth is a very personal thing. I'm sure some people feel it's worth it, or at least currently expect it to be worth it. More power to them.
If anything you should compare it to mid gen pcs which are more the norm. Not high end which are the exception.
I think you mean 5 or 6 times the price not power. One of the most powerful retail graphics cards is a Titan XP at 12tf while XBOX is 6tf. That only double the power. While the Titan XP is $1,200 just for the card and an XBOX is $500.
Nope. 5-6x the CPU power. Which turns situations where say if an X1X had the same CPU it would be running at 80-100 FPS instead of 35-45 locked down to 30. A GTX 1070 is a class above what's in the X1X. When overclocked, not hard and not extreme, you get about 7+ TFlops, which is effectually about 50 percent more then what X1X has as it performs about as well as about 9 TFLops AMD. All coupled with a processor that can easily be 5-6x what's in the X1X. Or if you bought the i7 920 back in 2008 for $229 and are still running that PC, it would still be like 3x the CPU. In other words, you could have built a PC for $1200 back in 2008-2009, and just bought GPU upgrades every so often. Like a GTX 670, the 1070, and you would consistently of had basically top notch graphics and high framerate for about a decade for about $2,000. Maybe add a ram upgrade for ~$100. Meanwhile for consoles (which I own and love too) people in 2013 could of spent $499, then in 2017 $499. That's 1k and only covers 4 years and you never get consistent 60 FPS, let alone 100-120 which you can get. Hell on stuff like Battlefield, Doom, and even the Destiny 2 PC beta you could hit 150-200 FPS at times. Also no $60 yearly online fee either.
yeah but consoles can do more with less than a PC can since consoles have more direct access to things when it's all built on the same chipset or board. PC's are plug and play which can't be accessed as fast since it's all separate components. So while a PC may require X graphics card to do 4k @ 30fps, a console can sometimes get away with less.
Eh, get some used parts and it will still be expensive, but not by much, and really over power the X. Take a i7 that is at least Sandy Bridge for 90-110, a 50-70 dollar Mobo to match, a used GTX 980 for 220, or a RX 480 after the bs mining phase, a 500 watt psu for 40, 8 gigs of ram for 20-40, a case 30-any, a $50 hard drive and bam, out powers the power of the X for around $50 more. You can also rock many other things to reduce the price, I added up the most expensive things just to do so. Oh, and yeah no windows, but consider using free Windows 10 for a bit then pay for that later as Xbox Live would cost more than Windows 10 in 2 months.
Not much reason to buy this console with the next gen so close
I wouldn't really say close. It's still probably at least two years away, if not three. That being said, the amount of time and money M$ put into R&D for this mid-cycle upgrade is just downright stupid. There's absolutely no way they can hope to make back the cost of its development.
If Sony bring the ps5 out in 2020 or 21 then the next Xbox new gen console will be at least 22 or even 23 that's at least a 4 to 6 year wait and it's more than enough to get some revenue back from the sales. Not to mention ms doesn't care about a loss on hardware when all they care about is subscribers, if they can get more consoles in New hands bringing in more subscribers then that is a lot more money generated for them alongside X sales. They wont mind a loss at all if it does happen that is which I don't think it will.
@zerocarnage Where are you getting your bullshyte information? Don't care about taking a loss? 4-6 years until their next console? You need to clean out your pooper there, bud, because there's nothing good coming out of it. The only way M$ can gain marketshare is if they are first to a new generation, like they were with the 360. They launched at the same time as Sony this gen and they're behind 2:1 in sales. If they launched a next-gen console a year after Sony they'd be completely fukt. There's also no way they're selling a console at a loss again, as they've very blatantly stated innumerable times.
Exactly. The 3rd party beast. Lol. Rather get a Switch personally.
That is a comment that really doesn't matter when the millions of Xbox live subs are happy. To Xbox gamers games can be in whatever party so long as they enjoy them and that it pulls them In and there's more than enough of a market of games on Xbox to keep people occupied.
What would Sony rush be to go next gen?
Because your miserable MS were forced to rush because of PS4 you think some mid-gen no game machine is going to force Sony's hand? Ohkai!!!!!......