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What 343 Industries' 'Halo' Franchise Can Learn From Marvel's Logan

Logan’s focus on the human side of Wolverine is a lesson that the developers of Halo must take to heart. We explain why Halo needs this.

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ravinash2605d ago

I think any developer can take a lesson out of a good story.

Sciurus_vulgaris2605d ago

I think the point being made, is that Halo 6, should be a character pieace focusing on Master Chief.

morganfell2605d ago

I think they are trying to tell people to let go of the Master Chief and embrace their wonderful creation Locke and the new Spartans...

Sciurus_vulgaris2605d ago

@morganfell

I don't think so. The backlash over Halo 5's story, led to lead writier of the title (Brian Reed), exiting 343i. Also, 343i hasn't been actively promoting Locke (and/or Fireteam Osiris), in supporting external media. Additionally 343i is seeking a new narrative director. This makes me think Halo 6, will have a story more comparable to Halo 4 than 5. Halo 4 focused on character development , unlike 5, which was written by a bad comic book writer, and had a large unnecessary ensemble cast.

Vasto2605d ago (Edited 2605d ago )

Halo's story is far above any other FPS ever made.

EmperorDalek2605d ago

5 put that in jeopardy, though.

Vasto2605d ago (Edited 2605d ago )

How so when the only FPS with a better story than Halo 5 is another Halo?

Halo 4 to me had the best story of them all and everybody also said Halo 4 did not have a good story.

343 keep up the good work.

Ben Dover2605d ago

@Vasto

If anything Bioshock takes that crown. By a long shot.

Vasto2605d ago (Edited 2605d ago )

Bioshock?

You all reaching for something that you know does not equal up to Halo.

spicelicka2602d ago

Bioshock story is standalone, different in each game. Individually Bioshock games have amazing stories but the franchise doesn't have a continuing narrative so you can't' say Bioshock takes that crown as a franchise.

You have to understand that the Halo universe is like Star wars. It spans over 10 books, 9 games (as of last month's HW2), multiple media like the mini-series (there's even an anime). It is vast and deep and full of amazing characters. What you see in the game is just a snippet, the actual backstory is one of the most intriguing stories I've read.

kaizokuspy2605d ago

I'd say halflife if only we could get its 3rd installment

sinspirit2605d ago (Edited 2605d ago )

TimeSplitters, Doom, Half-Life, BioShock, Metro, Metroid Prime, Deus Ex, and STALKER are just a few FPS games that have better story than Halo.

Halo 1-3 had good story. Reach was decent. After that it became very inconsistent, MC was treated like a novice by his superiors, they pulled the ridiculous AI freaking out scenario, which you'd think would be solved from hundreds of years into the future, they drastically redesigned Cortana to look more like Megan Fox, MC never had thrusters on his back, ever. They could have simply added something else to make sense with previous plotlines rather than redesign his suit without explanation, or apply that upgrade later on. They pulled the "bigger than ever before!" Michael Bay-esque plot with a bigger alien ship, they even made the Pillar of Autumn much bigger than it originally was, and then they created tons of new Spartan's out of thin air in a few years time, yes I know they aren't like the old Spartan's, but how the heck could they sky dive with no parachutes, land on a slipper snow covered mountain, and prance around like ballerina dancing ants with zero tactics for being "elite" soldiers in the debut trailer of Halo 5? The stories aren't good in 4 or 5. They are inconsistent and sloppily written to force dramatical moments and make up underlying stories. They aren't even written by original writers. They are written by third parties that don't really know Halo all that much and didn't work with the originals.

andrewsquall2604d ago

Don't forget the awesome recent Wolfenstein games.

spicelicka2602d ago

You're thinking standalone games. None of those franchises are as deep as Halo. The Halo games only represent a tiny percentage of the actual story. Maybe you're referring to the campaign instead of the actual "story".

I will admit though, that Halo 5 treated the story poorly.

sinspirit2602d ago

@spicelicka

How are they not as deep as Halo? The games should be deep and impactful on their own. Outside sources are great for dedicated fans, but if they are not in the game then it loses a significant part of the fanbases attention. Notice how the topic at hand was story for a "FPS". We don't classify books as First Person *Shooters*. The game is what we have at hand. Not extra material sold and provided on the side. Not to mention, those books are primarily written by third party authors that create generic sci-fi novels. Halo wasn't part of their ideas before they received a contract. This is why 4 betrays many themes in previous games, the importance of model characters, and why it throws in illogical assets that make no sense in the timeline only a short few years after Halo 3. This is why emotional USN officers yelling at a Master Chief, the most experienced on the subject matter, took place, with AI freaking out after hundreds of years of science was what they resorted to for "imagination", and why they felt the need to increase the size of the Pillar of Autumn, throw boosters on MC's suit, throw a mysterious and random alien ship, "Bigger than ever before!" in the middle of nowhere to wake MC up, and create a few hundred new Spartan's out of thin air within a few years, without any previous material hinting at any of it before. It's incoherent, unfaithful, and has only damaged the reputation in desperation to carry on the franchise with generic, forced, dramatical, and rinse + repeat storylines. This is why 5 was hated even more. Because, those that helped 4 become a success were too lenient just because they wanted a Halo game, even if it wasn't done right. If you let them deconstruct its values then of course it's not going to get better just because you gave them a budget and thumbs up for the next one with your purchase.

Of course, a game is judged based on the game, the primary product. I read up on Destiny, but I'm not going to pretend that the story portrayed in the game is more than what it is because I took the extra effort to do so. The game should be, will, and does get judged based on what it provides in its own format.

andrewsquall2604d ago

..........in the good old days before 2012 when it took a nosedive all round..

EmperorDalek2604d ago

Oh I agree that 4 had a fantastic story. I think 343 could make the best Halo game yet, if they combine the campaign from 4, and the multiplayer from 5. But 5's story was rather awful.

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dannybohy2605d ago

Logan is fucking boring, end of.

yeahright22605d ago

Did you get bored typing your own comment? you seem to be missing a word or two there.

gangsta_red2605d ago (Edited 2605d ago )

Logan is one of, if not, the best super hero movie out right now.

gangsta_red2605d ago

If 343i could somehow craft a story as emotional and satisfying as Fox did with Logan then that would be exceptional.

It's actually a shame that Logan is the last Hugh Jackman Wolverine movie especially having two previous mediocre ones before it.

Yohshida2605d ago

Halo 6 will blow minds. With Halo 4 they focused on SP and fcked the MP. With Halo 5 they perfected online multiplayer but missed the SP. Halo 6 will build on an already perfect Multiplayer which gives them more time with SP. God I can't freaking wait for that game. Beta incoming Holiday 2017, included with Crackdown 3 - MARK IT DOWN!

Goldby2605d ago

included in the Crack down 3 game or MP beta?

Yohshida2604d ago

With the Main game, just like crackdown 1 and Halo 3

Lime1232605d ago

I hope Halo 6 will be as good as Halo 5 - the worst rated and the worst selling mainline halo game ever.

Yohshida2604d ago

Sadly 95% of the Reviews only had a sp only or sp heavy Review. Dont believe me? Look at the Reviews. This is happening to a mp focused game. I think 10 Million + Players strongly disagree with you. Play it and.have some fun, you will see why.

andrewsquall2604d ago

So a studio continues to disappoint you but now all of a sudden (with STILL nothing to show for it) its "JUST YOU WAIT", lol. I don't even. They even helped out with Halo Wars 2 and does that really speak volumes for that game in even the slightest??? Nope.

The Halo 6 Beta will be included with the Halo 3 Anniversary Edition that should be due this year, another remaster release 343i will no doubt botch.

Yohshida2604d ago

Coming from a guy that didnt play the games, so trustworthy

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Square Enix Declares $140m Loss Amid Game Pipeline Shakeup

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth publisher Square Enix has declared a $140m loss based on a shakeup of its internal development pipeline.

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Furesis7h ago

What are they doing over there? Sounds like they canceled something big. I read a rumor a while back about ff9 remake . Here "Final Fantasy IX has gone through a very challenging development, the game is still in progress but may undergo changes drastic enough that we won't hear about it for a couple of years."
This could be one of the reasons if the rumor is true. That was Silknight i don't know how credible he is but it's something and it would make sense.

-Foxtrot5h ago

I hope IX is still on the cards

Just a straight up remake which they expand a little bit nothing over ambitious

If IX dosent happen then VI and VIII will never be thought of.

TiredGamer4h ago

What are they doing? Sales are falling and the costs are out of control. Big releases need to be absolute sales home runs now, and Final Fantasy sales have stagnated.

Now we know why Square didn’t fall over themselves to remake the original FF7 all these years ago. It certainly wasn’t a license to print money, at least not with what the expectations were. Each of these full on remakes drains an enormous amount of company resources for a razor thin profit margin.

TwoPicklesGood4h ago

Breaking the game up into multiple parts was a mistake IMO.

blackblades2h ago

The loses came from cancelling games nothing else.

shadowT6h ago

Do not miss Final Fantasy 16. Great game!

raWfodog6h ago

I'm waiting for them to release the complete edition bundle, but it's definitely on my list.

PhillyDonJawn5h ago

Wth is going on with the gaming industry?

mandf4h ago

Corporate investors taking everything

TiredGamer4h ago

Not rocket science. Compare sales numbers, development cycles, and budgets to the previous gens. We are all collectively burning up the industry from the inside out. Expectations are ludicrously high now for every release and sales are dropping for even the most prestigious of series.

We used to be satisfied paying $50-60 for a game that took 1/100th the budget and staff to make. Now gamers feel cheated if they have to pay the same for a game that took 100x the budget. We may be reaching the end of the line for this model of gaming.

wiz719145m ago

@tiredgamer I think your point is one that ppl don’t understand and you hit it on the nose .. some gamers don’t want to take accountability but it’s some of the gamers fault the industry is where it’s at .. we as gamers set the standards for the industry not the shareholders , ppl forget that the shareholders and the industry want and need OUR Money. Both the Xbox and PlayStation are seeing a drop in hardware , the industry is very stagnant right now.

Tacoboto1h ago

Speaking to Square:

Turns out their mismanagement wasn't related to the western studios they dumped to Embracer, but their own fault.

With regards to Xbox - a good way to kill your brand is to pull support on high quality titles and only dump B and C-tier titles to it

With regards to PC - Epic Games Story exclusivity for any duration and piss-poor optimization will hurt you.

With regards to FF Pixel Remasters - y'all messed up by barely releasing them on physical, like wtf that was free money!

And lastly, you don't help a franchise by releasing a mainline title that undermines every title that came before it. FFXVI was a DMC-like with bottom-of-the-barrel side quests and I can't imagine that helping Rebirth at all considering its marketing is directly tied to how big that game is.

Tacoboto46m ago

Sony is getting their best titles and with the most polish, so what about it? Nintendo gets their top properties too, for titles that can run on Switch hardware.

It's the other fanbases that get the second- and third-class treatment from Square. If that's due to agreements with Sony, that's not a Sony issue but a Square one for accepting those terms. Sony is doing its best to look out for Sony.

TiredGamer5h ago

The industry implosion is continuing. Sky high budgets, prolonged development windows, stagnant sales numbers, and falling currency values (inflation) are wreaking havoc on the legacy industry. AAA games will slowly become the rarity.

CS75h ago

Sad. Rebirth was one of my favorite games in a long time. Should have sold more.

CrimsonWing694h ago

Oh I’m with you. What’s worse is they can say, “Well we tried to make this amazing game and spend all this money on, but not enough people showed an interest. So no more of these since we can’t take a hit like that.”

The industry is going to take a dramatic shift. Mark my words on this.

rpvenom3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think there is quite a large portion of individuals like myself who held out on buying it on PS5 because I can get it on PC eventually. To be able to mod the game and also have custom graphical settings to my liking

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F1 Arcade Opens In Boston

This reminds me of Gameworks and sounds really fun. F1 Arcade (F1Arcade.com/us/), the world’s first premium F1 entertainment experience, today opened its first US location in Boston Seaport.

DefenderOfDoom25h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Cool , only a 20 minute ride for me. I am going to check it out . I hope they have a lot of retro Arcade cabinets. Now that Mary Jane is legal in Massachusetts it would been awesome if they served Edibles at the bar also. I once played music and promoted a EA Madden tournament at a nightclub in Greater Boston in 2003 . Only problem is hardly anybody drank booze because between games most of the crowd would just go out to there car and smoke weed . So it would be awesome if they got a weed license to at least serve Edibles.

Garethvk2h ago

I think they would likely want to stay clear of that until they are more established.

People will tolerate Alcohol but will have a different take on edibles and such as they are trying to push a family friendly atmosphere I am sure.

SonyStyled1h ago

I’m in the metrowest area. I’ll have to check this out too

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Here's Everything I Expect From The Witcher 4's Combat

Danish from eXputer: "The Witcher's upcoming sequel needs to overhaul the series' combat system if it wants to make a big splash among gamers."

on_line_forever11h ago

after what we see ( 2015 - 2024 ) in dark souls 3, blood borne , sekiro , dragon's dogma 2 , rise of the Ronin combat they should really careful and bring very good combat in Witcher 4 this time