by Hilary Goldstein:
"The story plays out very linearly, with no branching elements. There are sidequests, but none add to the overall story and amount to little more than time-consuming fetch quests. There are some nice twists and turns in the story along the way that help turn what could have been a somewhat dull adventure into something compelling. Capell is much like Luke Skywalker. He starts out whiny and pretty much never stops. Of course he's destined to save the world, but his development never betrays his underlining whiner persona. And that, oddly enough, makes him more likeable than some of the other rags-to-hero characters".
7.1/10
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wow at the disagree, yes this is not the us ign score -_-
Infinite Undiscovery RPG 7.1 Aug 27, 2008
Castle Crashers Action 9.0 Aug 27, 2008
Tales of Vesperia RPG 8.2 Aug 22, 2008
Galaga Legions Shooter 7.7 Aug 20, 2008
Too Human [AU] Action Adventure 6.5 Aug 19, 2008
Smash Court Tennis 3 Sports 4.9 Aug 19, 2008
Too Human [UK] Action Adventure 7.5 Aug 19, 2008
so yeah the score fits well.
And didn't they realease a RPG, not to long ago? corret me if I am wrong.
"Well if you see the graphics. They weren't impressive and really dull
so yeah the score fits well. "
First off the graphics really are that bad, second you don't judge a game by graphics alone. I'm not saying that that's what IGN did, but it's obviously how you judge games.
I dont think a single jrpg nut should , as they have consistently churned the same generic comment over many jrpgs .
Take the tales of series , according to those sites and magazines , its always "oudated graphismes , nice fighting system but repetitive , genric anime plots with no twists " , as if they were trading each others the same word sheets and template , without actually properly playing the games . Now that "suddenly" tales are more popular outside of japan , and now that its "next gen" enough for them , magically the franchise is awesome , wich it always have been .
I dont trust such site to do anything besides following popular trends , and giving popular titles like FF free passes , while dismissing lesser known titles that way .
Now now.Don't get worked up about it.Just do what Dennis Dyack does...deny deny deny
i called this a few days ago, a 7.something. Oh well, now to see if my gametrailers prediction came true
*sigh*
it will not be given higher scores for its name
only if the name is final fantasy. i dont expect ff13 to be better than ff10
is better than this game. Last Guy it is then.
Final answer.
That's Life. ....................
Besides People always Judge Graphics over Gameplay & Story! I fail to see their Ambition in this. "It's just like a store having 10~day old milk an throwing a great graphic 80% off Milk sign, no matter how sweet the sticker looks it wont make it taste better?" Just my little food 4 thought! Take it 1~bite at a Time!
PSN games are graded with being a PSN game in mind. Full disc-based games are graded with being a full disc-based game in mind.
Maybe Last Guy is better, but don't trust a review to compare an "arcade"-esque game to a full game. Unless they specifically say in the review "this game is better than _______."
At least that's my opinion.
Go Go Walker!
Edit: Vesperia comes out in europe in 2009.
It'll be better than White Knight Chronicles.:)
Did you seriously just compare Tri-Ace to Level-5? LOL!
When's the last time Tri-Ace even made a decent console game? Star Ocean 3 sucked and I wouldn't be surprised if Star Ocean 4 ends up just as bad. Did you know that they've been developing IU and SO4 at the same time?
IGN is the most trusted game site out of them all to me, and I think Tales of V. sounds like the better game to buy.
Edit: Also forgot Valkyria Chronicles will be also another must buy game for me.
Thats a joke. If you don't get this game solely because of IGNs score, you're pathetic. Wait for some more reviews to get a more broad idea of peoples opinionsl.
Actually I do. I own Too Human, and as far as reviews go they are right about alot of the problems of Too Human, but at the same time the game is still enjoyable and is a good game. I really like the way silicon knights approached this game and even though they didnt nail the game with what they were really hoping to release to the public the game isnt that bad. I actually enjoy the game and think it is a pretty good game.
As for comparing too human to an jrpg that isnt a good comparison because too human is more of a rpg mixed with an action game like devil may cry. I think too human looks alot better then inifinite undiscovery and has more action then it and I can almost bet too human story is better then this game. Sorry man but as much as u might want to like this game and dont like too human, I still think too human is a better overall game despite the bad reviews. Just my opinion but hey I never said too human was legendary or anything, I just said it was a pretty good game which it is despite all the flaws it has in the game.
Perhaps clintos finds that IGN's tastes in games is the closest aligned to his own and therefore the best indicator of what he will like? Maybe he doesn't regard Gamespot or 1Up as having the same tastes as himself?
I know I feel that way. IGN seems to parallel my tastes more accurately than a populist average such as Metacritic. And I'm glad I ignored the "broader/populist view" because as a result I have enjoyed many titles I'd have otherwise missed including the fun but flawed Too Human.
Games just like films, books and music are as wide in variety as gamers are in tastes... One man's Mozart is another man's 2Pac. If you can find a site or a reviewer that shares similar tastes to your own, it's only logical to give more weight to his opinion than the average of everybody else's... if only cause MoPac sounds awful! :P
who takes internet reviews seriously still
honestly, after all the sht that has gone down with regards to internet reviews...why do you people still place so much faith in them?
I dont take emm personally the way u think we do but at the same time it is good to check out reviews from a reliable source that is not biased over any console.
IGN is a great resource to check reviews for a game because they have seperate reviewers strictly for each system. That way they give u a more positive review instead of just having some guy who enjoys all 360 games also reviewing ps3 games. I find IGN a great game site to go for reviews because they have seperate teams who review for certain consoles and those consoles are the consoles those reviewers enjoy and will give u there unbiased personal opinion which ill take over opinions such as gamespot for example where they had a reviewer who only enjoyed sports games, review a platform game which he obviously didnt like and that game was Ratchet And Clank which was a great game. This is why I preffer IGN over most game sites because like I said they have seperate teams reviewing, 360, ps3, and wii and pc titles just so all there reviews are fair reviews.
Does that mean u dont buy these games? No, of course u can go out and buy the game as it is your free will to do so and u should never let a review ever stop u from buying a game u really want to buy. But if u are one of those like me who want to see the review for a certain game u want to buy and need a good unbiased source, IGN in my book is the best source and is a reason why it is the most popular game site on the net because that is where most people go to see reviews for games they want to play.
Also wanted to say hi to, "Superfragilistic" lol. Long time no see bro. And totally agree with u. Well heres a bubble and ill see u around, peace. :)
True. However, you should should keep your eyes and ears open for the rest of the reviews, as well. As much as I love IGN, I have disagreed with them on multiple accounts. Sometimes, I found them far off the mark. It just depends. You should sooner attach yourself to one particular reviewer than a corporate entity. Besides, most of the American media have yet to truly appreciate the JRPG genre.
I'll probably end up buying the game, but will remain on the lookout for fellow reader feedback. ;)
Cheers mate. I'd give you bubbles if I hadn't already! lol
But I totally agree with you on IGN and you make a very valid point about their separation of review teams. 1Up letting an OPM writer review Too Human was laughable, and the Ratchet & Clank Gamespot incident wasn't much better! ;)
I'm around just not commenting as often, as each and every week the logic on this site appears to be continuing to spiral into an open zone abyss and I find myself wondering "what's the point?". I've found making, writing and playing games is a far better substitute anyway. ;)
That excuse "OPM writer reviews Too Human? Biased Review!" is horrible. Too Human is not good. People need to get over it. Yeah there are always some people that love games that others don't (the same thing happened for Lair). The fact is that this game seemed rushed, and it was not fun.
And to #3, saying that online reviews are bad because they are biased is not true at all. All reviews are biased, online or in a magazine. Movie reviews? Biased. Album reviews? Biased. There is no such thing as an objective view of something. That can also be said for anything in the world. No matter what, there will be some small thing that turn a reviewer in a certain direction. After all, we are only human.
Who wrote "There is no such thing as an objective view of something."
Perhaps you should practice what you preach before saying things immediately beforehand such as "The FACT is that this game seemed rushed, and it was not fun." ;)
There were no excuses on mine or clintos' part, we merely asserted our preference for one reviewer over another because they are more closely aligned to our own subjective tastes. As for bias, well the only one who used the word was you! lol
U say too human is not good? I mean how isnt it good? If people enjoy a game doesnt that mean its good? Yes these reviews may have downplayed the review and some of them had good reasons but that doesnt always mean a game is bad. Too human is a pretty fun game despite the flaws it has. Every freakin game that has been ever made has flaws. There is no such thing as a perfect game.
U may see perfect scores for GTA4 or MGS4 but that doesnt mean the game doesnt have flaws which both those games do have. Its just that those games in reviewers minds brought something big to the table which no other games have done in there genre and has set the standard and is why they got perfect scores but that doesnt mean those games are perfect.
I am not only talking about too human when I say it is a pretty good game, there are many other titles people enjoyed even though the reviews werent as great as those people thought it would be. I can name a couple games that I really enjoyed even though they had bad reviews.
Dynasty Warriors 6 is a good example, I have always loved the series and despite bad reviews I was going to buy the game anyways because I am a fan of this series. And guess what? I loved DW6 and thought Gan Ning was even more bad a$$ on this version compared to DW5. Alot of u may look at reviews and say because this game got this low score must mean its a bad game but at the same time if this is a game u have been anticipating since u first seen trailers and stuff u can almost bet the game will be fun for u despite bad reviews which was the same case for reviews for DW6 and Too Human and many other games like Crackdown, Heavenly Sword, even Folklore and Lair and Lost Odyssey. Alot of these titles may not be as great as people thought they were going to be but all these titles can still be enjoyed by people who love these type of games.
Also wanted to point ou that I know there alot of biased game sites out there but like I have said before on my early post above, IGN is prolly the best source that isnt biased towards most games because they have seperate teams reviewing certain consoles to keep it a fair review. And those reviewers enjoy games on those platforms they review, so there reviews to me are more reliable then most other sites because most of these other game sites let the same reviewers who review 360 games review ps3 games and yes if this certain person isnt a big fan of ps3 games they are most likely going to give a bad review. For example GameDaily. Biggest 360 fanboys on the net and they still review ps3 games. U really think im going to go to this site to get reviews for a ps3 game I really want to play? Hells no im going to IGN like I have always done and I been happy with IGN reviews since the first time I went on there site.
I agree that yes almost every game site may have some bias opinions but that is how we all are and if we werent then there wouldnt be any games to critisize and we would all be just playing the same old games but this is a good reason why its good to have reviews because it also helps devs see what mistakes they have made and correct those mistakes with the next project they work on.
To Superfragilistic I totally understand why u dont comment much and maybe I should do the same since it is really a waste of finger muscles to waste on people who cant get things straight in there head, lol. Anyways u keep enjoying your games, and many people on here should do the same including myself. Ill be there sooner or later though but u take it easy and ill see u around. :)
I bought Too Human and hated it, so that means it's not good. You may like it whatever. I just think it's not good. The whole wall of text wasn't necessary.
@Supercalagristic
I worded it wrong. I was talking about the excuse that people used like "OPM writer= bi a se d!" didn't make sense.
And yes I have reviewed things before (used to for school newspaper). And everyone knows that there is no such thing as an objective review. It's the same thing with breaking up with a girlfriend (or for juuken, a boyfriend... or a girlfriend if that's your thing). Can you break up with a girl and not feel a single feeling about it (and don't say Jerry Seinfeld did)? No matter what there will be some personal taste that will change a review to something else, regardless of if you review things.
I'm not saying you personally (or clintos) were making excuses, but I was just trying to say that IGN and 1UP should be trusted as reviews. Unless they have some scandal, saying they are biased is true, but not a good reason for distrusting them.
Of course, I say just rent stuff for like 5 bucks then buy it if you want. Reviews shouldn't decide anything except if that is the type of game you would like.
At least rent it to try it out.
Reviews can never speak of your own opinion.
So to see this 7.1 is rather surprising. Hell, that's borderline 6. Granted, the U.S. isn't exactly keen on the rpg like Japan is.
But of course this is only one review and more are coming. And also, people should never let reviews sway them from a game they wish to try anyway.
Is that based on previews? personal preference? Or do you already have the game? Just wondering why you would expect a certain score on a game that is not even out yet.
360 sucks, another flop.
PS3 doesn't even get RPGs! Waitstation3!
LOLZ TOLD U IT WUD FL0P.
etc etc etc..
Just getting all those fanboy comments out of the way so people can actually discuss the game.
And good attempt. But you know they're coming anyway.
Well to be honest, reviews DON'T matter. Your own opinion is what matters.
.......why do I get the feeling I had a similar conversation with you? lol
Some people can't formulate an opinion, they rely on others to tell them what path to take. These people are know as eternal followers, you would be surprise how many people like this exist. Some don't even know they have this personality flaw.
I use reviews as a guideline to tell me about the game, but as for judging whether or not I would like it, I usually play a demo or rent it to make my own decision.
Sometimes game reviewers get to caught up in technical BS that doesn't really matter to the gamer. Other times, they are unable to fairly judge a genre because the don't favor that particular genre. I wonder, do their bosses select them for reviews based on their genre favors or do they just put them on the next thing that comes out. Because it will affect the scores. I have played games before that I really loved and later looked at a 1up or IGN review and noticed that they gave it a very poor review. Oh well, I like it and that's really all that matters in the end.
Yeah and some people are known as "informed consumers" who like to have some idea that they aren't dropping 60 bucks on some s**ttard of a game.
Or even 5 bucks to rent it for that matter.
But yeah, I agree with you otherwise, there are times when I really enjoyed a game that didn't get very good reviews, and so I brush it off. But with the amazing games we have seen this year and last year, I don't think anyone should spend 60 dollars on anything less than excellent.
I hear what you are saying but, who determines what excellence is, the buyer or 50 reviewers with different opinions the mostly talk about things and lower their scores base on things that you don't care about such as framerate drop during cut scenes.
Would you rather spend 60 bucks based on reading good reviews just to find out that you don't like it, or 5 bucks for a rental which saved you 55 bucks because you found out that you don't like it.
I'll spend the 5 bucks. Unless It is a must buy, first day buy, I tend to always rent it first. And if it is a short 8-10 hr game, I'd rent it twice and just finish it over a ten day period(video games at our blockbuster is 5 days for 5.99)
why can't i get a decent AAA 360 RPG (excluding Mass Effect)? I was let down with Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Too Human, and now Infinite Undiscovery. At least Tales of Vesperia is good. Last Remnant better be awesome.
thats what we the bots thought too, but still its the best RPG game ever made!! we bots think so at least!
Mr Bot
all this over hyping and i keep hearing the 360 is king of RPG yet all 360 RPG's r average to midcore games!!!
ninja gayden 2 = FLOP
Too Human = Flop
Infinite undiscovery = FLOP
whats next?? gears of war 1.027??
stupid SE for waisting their effort on last gen console with DVD tech!!
why would anyone buy a 360 now?? in 2007 i would agree but now?? i think all 360 owners should sell their 360 and buy a ps3 instead!!
a score we the bots dream of, i mean all our high profile RPG's r flopping!!!
lost oddyssey = flop
blue dragon = flop
tales = flop
too human = flop
infinite undiscovery = flop
360 = king of FLOPS
i mean come on!! how is that fair?? all our RPG's r FLOPS???
we only want to get some of the success of ps3 RPG's such as Digea 3!! please droids have mercy on us, we r at our limit these days with all the negative news on 360 and us the bots!!
Mr Bot
really really ign. a 7. really?
Even worst than constant flop games, it's a flop console...check out an email I replied to one of my friend...
To my beloved Xbot M$ lemmings…I mean Xbox360 friends:
So, what is like playing a 10-year Too Flop? 10-years must make it one hella good Flop!
Oh wait, did you forget to pay your LIVE bill...yet? You don't want to pay 50 bucks for 1 month worth of LIVE. Hey, I am here for you if you need any loan. I promise I won’t charge you 100% interest if you’re late!
Oh yeah, how many times did you say your beloved 360 pooped out, RRODed? I was wondering, was it like more annoying the first time or the 4th time? I bet you had M$ support numbers saved somewhere on your phone. Do you know if Sony has one? I never had to call…
Speaking of which, how many games did you lose due to disc scratching problems? Have you tried renting Xbox360 games? It’s like playing Russian roulette with 3 chambers and one bullet! Yeah, I am totally sorry that one time my dog ran over your Xbox360 while you were playing Too Flop. My dog did the same crap on mine, but I just continued playing.
Did your living room burn down yet due to over-heating? Did you try to cook eggs on the XBOX, yet? My friends did and it worked. We actually ate the eggs ON it – we got bored playing too flop…
What are you going to do to your crap-box come this September or whenever your warranty runs out? My favorite was to use it as a door stopper or use it as a book-end…
Oh...how's Halo 3? What!!? You're playing CoD4, instead? Aww, me too!!! Of course, mine is free to play on dedicated less-lag servers! No worries brother, you DEFINITELY don’t need to worry about lag when playing a FPS!
You must be also very excited for Gears2! It will be just like those OLD, glorious days!!! ... in fact, "EXACTLY" like those old times! Enjoy your Gears 1.5! Aww, don’t worry about me you silly goose, I’ll get the superior version on my PC just like the original Gear! No need to be so concerned!
Go here: http://i37.tinypic.com/1zvp...
So, what about your HD? Did you run out of space? Want to borrow my 320GB HD? Awww! Too bad you can't, go spend ~120 dollars on 60gigs…I got my 320gigs @ newegg.com for like ~2games worth. It’s a good deal.
Oh and what color will you make your kiddie Wii-copycap avatar wear? I am excited!!! Please tell me when you know! I will be waiting.
Well until next time,
RIP, 360
-Your fellow PS3 friend
PS. R = RROD
I lol'd.
And for the record,
It's not the quantity, it's who you get laid with.
To answer your question, Jessica Alba is my f*ck buddy
but I'm not worried about it... I'll check the game out for myself as I've encountered review scores I really don't agree with in both the low and high categories.
And aren't all main heroes from all rpg's borderline "whiny" to repulsingly "whiny" anyway? That's kinda given about the genre...
"At least the 360 has a library of RPGs to choose from."
Correction, At least the 360 has a library of FLOP RPGs to choose from. You BABOON....AHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHA
Infinite Undiscovery, yeah right, more like "Infinite FLOP discovery"....AHHAHAHHAHA HHAHAHHAHHAHhAHHAHA
The 360 has "DISCOVERED" yet ANOTHER exclusive FLOP....AAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
i can't believe Tri-Ace & square-Enix make a decent game....Anyway, i'm still buying it...XD Hardcore gamers ya know...
so far :/
I mean geez. I haven't played Infinite Undiscovery, but this score doesn't mean the game is terrible.
Lost Odyssey didn't get stellar reviews, but I enjoyed it, as well as many other people.
Everyone needs to stop with the "oh, I was looking forward to this.. oh well" comments. I mean seriously.
I'm not much of a RPG guy, and to be honest i dont have a X360. I only play Xbox at some of my friends. But i'm gonna get one someday (I really like Halo)
Anyway, i hope this make 360 RPG-lovers happy, instead of Sony fanboy's if ya know what i mean
but this game got 7.1...meaning it's range is from "okay" to "good"
I didn't have too high hopes for this game after I heard it was only like 20-25 hour game.
Id rather stick with my Disgaea 3 (298374982374 hours) and Tales of Vesp (60-100 hours).
so only one outta the 5 360 rpgs is look acceptiable. lost oddessy being the one.
they better have a demo out for this game asap cause the too human and tov demos didn't do it for me and i was hoping this game would save the day.
o well let me finish reading the review to see if the story is any good.
Well yea its seems there has been a few misses more than hits for 360 guys, but i think you guys have plenty to look forward to still. Last remnant coming out before the end of the year which looks great.
Course its no Xenogears though
I guess If you lover RPG's then this game is worth a shot. just nothing Truly GREAT about it. RPG gamers should still play it cause i feel its gunna be quite a while till we see a truly jaw dropping JRPG. WKS, SO4, FF13, FFv13 don't look to be coming anytime soon.
Valkarie cronicals and Disgaea 3 are the only other jrpgs on my short list this year.
Last remnant IMO has no soul as a game from what we know about it (all i seem to know about it off the top of my head is battling in a squad)
Ive really been wanting to hear more about White Knight Story, it kinda seems like it dropped of the face of the earth. Level 5 have made some pretty great games as developers and some of the early gameplay looked pretty promising.
Valkryia Chronicles scored some pretty good reviews from Famitsu, 34/40, so im definitely looking to seeing what a few other sites and magazines have to say about it closer to release.
But since I am a PS3 owner im really looking forward to Eternal Sonata when it releases in Oct. I was pretty jealous of 360 guys last year! looks quite beautiful and has a lot of character. But overall it should be a pretty decent fall/winter with plenty to look forward to in the spring
Xbox 360 fails to deliver AAA RPGs
i think that you mean Tri-Ace. they made valkyrie profile 2 silmeria that sucked compared to the first valkyrie profile for ps1 and they made Star Ocean 3, one of the most boring JRPG that i have played in my life and it sucked compared to Star Ocean 2.
there you have the awesome developer tri-ace.
but now i see that it's not only that you don't know a thing about Tales games, you just don't know a thing about Jrpg in general jenzo.
BTW people what's the point in taking away my bubbles? when i get down to two bubbles i just going to create another account. so whats the point?
This game was developered by Tri-Ace.
For someone who brags about the 360 having the most rpg's, you sure don't know your rpg's.
well that and Fallout, this year. That review is just average.
I hope you are not a parent becuz you would probably raise kids to say stupid things like you just typed.
They would probably grow up to be like you
by the way is pp short for poop?
it means us!! FLOP = 360 and us the bots! so lets go together and jump out of chain bridge!!!
our only hope was an average game!! in other words a FLOP!! we the bots will take revenge and make the next JRPG for 360 to have 5.1/10 so we finish the job and make mass suicide from chain bridge!!
Mr Bot
"4 -
FLOP what does that mean i don't understand"
-TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMAAAAAAAA AANNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!
need me to draw you a picture?
Look at a mirror and you'll see what it means!
How can anyone take him seriously with his name being that. I would bet that some PS3 fanboy made that account to make the 360 fanboys look bad.
see its wierd a tri-ace game thats short???? since when??? seems rushed, sorta kinda, im gettin the game anyway but im used to there games like star ocean where theres so much to do, this game sounded like there was alot, but if its 30 hours its a dissapointment
see i think this next gen thing is hindering games especially jrpgs, now all of them are becoming short because they have to focus on innovating and pretty graphics instead of putting alot of content..this sux but w/e apparently the only things that shine this gen are shooting games.... guess i'll wait and hope for fable II, valkyrie chronicles and star ocean 4
I remember when she dropped kicked him on the head thinkin he was a real viva pinata
oh yeah? DragonQuest VIII it's a traditional rpg that doesn't bring nothing new and it's one of the best Jrpg on the PS2 and one of my favorites.
now this brings me to this question. HOW THE F*** A MORON LIKE YOU HAS LIKE 10 BUBBLES????? Mwaan
DO YOU REALLY HAVE A BRAIN? this comment is more retarded that the one i read this morning from jenzo about nintendo.
the bubble system it's broken!
You have 3 bubbles because you go around calling people morons. If you read my comment again you might spot some sarcasm. I agree, Dragon Quest VIII is awesome.
Sorry but while i agree that not picking the game because of ign is a lousy excuse as well , i find your logic flawed when it comes to scores .
And that's one you find around all the time lately ....
Score are and should be the mirror of the reviewers opinion about the game period . Reading into it more like if "tales got 7 and too human got 9 , they means too human is better" is silly . Such comparison might only occurs between a game and its sequel ...
But no one is going to act like a robot and grade a title according to past score from games of the same genre and other big databases . Or what should they spend their time grading a doom titles 0.5 points each time , if they actually found a little better each sequel ?
To address your point, it's considered a flop because with a low score, you won't see MS or whoever bragging about the game. This entire year and before Too Human and Infinite Undiscovery were two games you couldn't get MS to stfu about as part of their "reason to own an Xbox 360 in 2008". With a low score, they will basically try to keep quiet and try to act as if the game never happened when you hear them talk about games from now.
With how things are shaping up, their 3rd party lineup isn't shaping up too nicely and a lot of critics suggestions that all 360 really has this year is Halo Wars and Gears of War 2 looks like it's coming true. Microsoft put all their money in the wrong places.
So lets put it this way Baka-akaB, at the end of the year when the manufacturers - Sony, MS and Nintendo - give their year end PR statements as they always do, don't be surprised that MS will leave out Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery (depending on how the rest of the reviews turn out) simply because they can't use that as a reason to own the 360 if the game gets bad scores.
Even as most of the time a "pro sony" and while finding too human to be trash , i find that trend of dismissing games because of reviews quite awesome and silly ...
Only thing that determine a flop are sales .
But what we ,on this n4g..and pretty much all hardcore gamers, consider a flop..is based on the overall ratings from all review sites. Hardcore games care more about the game's playability.
Flop for Companies is if doesn't sell. They could care less (high up wise) if it got 4/10, but if it put money into their pockets they are happy. For some reason...this reminds me of 95% of the Wii Shovelware games.
Wii Chair coming 2010!
8.9 Giver to Forza 2 and 8.1 giver to PGR4. Always undercritic scores.
He says he'd never reviewed a racing game before, and scores low scores. This is one of IGN's new and f00l editors.
Project Gotham was more of the same, but with bikes. Forza on the other hand totally changed the playing field with its amazing customization features.
That's a flop.
7s 8s and 9s = not flops.
Droids are sad they have no exclusive rpgs to call their own.
load of pc next gen games are on 360 but not on ps3. MS consider them console exclusives. They are real flops. but get no attention
MS has most flops . by the way is this you
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Haha shut up! RPG's don't work on the 360 confirmed? I wonder how long Microsoft will keep paying to have these flops put exclusively put on there system.
Meanwhile SE is laughing because they are putting all of there PS2 rejects on the 360 and having Microsoft pay for them! People are wondering why Square would all of a sudden become so buddy buddy with Microsoft? Because Microsoft agreed to pay all development cost on all the games that Square had trashed for years.
And all the good games (Star Ocean, Last Remnant, Final Fantasy) still remain on the PS3. The 360 is a waste of an IP.
After the rest of the flops this year, I wonder if Square will still agree to release the 360 version of FFXIII on the same day as the PS3 version. Ya know what, I doubt it.
Haze got 55 on metacritic.
Wii has the most flops, followed by the 360.
Fact
42 of 194 PS3 games score 60 and below= 22%
123 of 441 360 games score 60 and below= 28%
99 of 253 Wii games score 60 and below = 39%
So that must mean...
The 360 has 318 games above 60
The ps3 has 152 games, less than half, above 60
Who bothers with the bad games? =) Just look at how many titles the 360owners can choose from.
So it has the advantage by quantity so you have to go by percentage in order to compare the amount of quality and horrible titles on both systems.
Like I said before, the 360 has much more in quantity but slightly in quality as reflected by the percentage.
Almost 1 out of 4 PS3 games scored below 60.
Almost 1 out of 3 360 games scored below 60.
Hell i even remember case like Xenogears being dismissed as generic trash in a few magazines , from idiots reviewers wich probably not got past the first village , only to find them praising the title in their "top 10 hot rpg" lists , after it got some cult following .
I also remember lapucelle tactics taking some majors hit in imports , then disgaea and its success happened , a new niche was creted , and suddenly same magazine would praise the us version of la pucelle tactics .
Thing had gone better over time , but even persona 3 didnt got taken seriously everywhere , until its popularity rose .
I really dont understand whats with all the exclusivity hype on the 360 when the games are mediocre at best. I mean, Ive yet to see a game like Metal Gear on the 360. Too Human had as long of development and look how that turned out. But back on track, Tri Ace really are a mediocre team in the first place, and Square really needs to go back to its roots and stay away from these Tales types of games.
I know this isn't versperia, but the combat really does play just like all the other ones. Im truly disapointed because I wanted this to be a good Squeenix game. I guess Fable 2 is the only reason for me to hold on to my 360 now that I know that Squeenix will just continue to support these retarded games.