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DriveClub revisited: is dynamic weather a game-changer?

Digital Foundry re-assesses Evolution's PS4 debut in the wake of this week's spectacular upgrade.

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Gazondaily3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Well the benefits to visuals aside (and DC really does look jaw-droppingly good with these weather effects) weather can literally change the game due to the physics based action. Playing online with players sliding all over the place and fighting for grip is brilliant. Adds a whole new layer to racing.

"Unlike many games, DriveClub uses individual droplet particles to represent the rain. Each particle is impacted by the game's motion blur system, giving the impression of long, vertical streaks while driving"

This is crazy and you can tell the difference especially when comparing it to Horizon 2, which looks great too but not as good as this.

chaldo3854d ago

Going to pick this up now, and play it on my xperia z3! :D

Question - Was there a huge sale for this game on black friday that I missed out on? :(

JMaine5183854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

You can get it on amazon for $34.99
DriveClub (PlayStation 4) by Sony Computer Entertainment http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0...

BTW I'm tempted to pick it up at that price but I'm have such a backlog that by the time I catch up the ps plus edition will be out. So I'll just wait.

Gazondaily3854d ago

"Question - Was there a huge sale for this game on black friday that I missed out on? :("

Not sure about the game itself (I expect it to be discounted) but the game was bundled with a lot of PS4's for sale. You can probably pick it up for cheap considering Xmas sales and stuff.

thanhgee3854d ago

NPD is released in about 11 hours so we'll see.

amiga-man3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Absolutely a game changer, the weather update adds a truly remarkable and believable graphics upgrade, it isn't just a visual upgrade the racing dynamics are also suitably affected making the racing far more precarious and challenging.

A fine upgrade to what was already a superb racing experience.

Wh15ky3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

It was just the bundle (in UK).

I bought it, had a few games of Drive Club when I first got it home, thought it was pretty good but hadn't returned to it till two nights ago when I heard about this update.

The graphics in the rain are incredible, I've never seen anything like it and the handling and sense of speed is really cool. Still pretty rubbish at it, but getting better.

Watched a guy on Playstation Live last night doing time trial on the same track over and over again in the MacLaren P1 in the rain trying to beat his time. The speed was incredible, I must have lost over half an hour just mesmerised by his skills.

nX3854d ago

It's definately a game-changer, I'd even say that it should be re-reviewed by websites at this point. It's GOTY material by now, crazy what Evolution achieved during the last 2 months.

Dee_913854d ago

I actually think the gran turismo 5 demo had better rain on the windshield
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
GT5 had great rain but the pixelation kinda killed it for me.
In DC its kinda like gt6 with the big rain droplets.

TheTwelve3854d ago

<---- also a Z3 owner. =)

4me23854d ago

..."(did) I missed out on? :("

Yes you did. DriveClub was free when one bought Xperia Z3.(T-Mobile USA)

thekhurg3854d ago

To those that have it. That weather system seems broken in the videos. You literally can barely see anything while the AI is just racing ahead. Was that a fluke, or is the AI not impaired by vision issues to the weather conditions?

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uth113854d ago

I didn't see this article mention it, but heavy rain will actually make the streams rise in DC. I suppose if you wait long enough. portions of the track will flood out

G20WLY3853d ago

^There's no "yeah, no" about it fella, what uth11 said is a fact. They demonstrated this in a time lapse video about 3 months ago.

I'd find you the link, but I have a feeling it would be a waste of time...

ExtoVert3854d ago

I really want to see cockpit view using Morpheus. Just imagine looking around inside ur car, the back sit, and looking through the middle console for enough change for a cheeseburger at BK.

Magicite3854d ago

horizon has no advantages besides being open-world, and yeah it already has been forgotten.

KiwiViper853854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

So does every game almost 3 months after release.

The only reason people are talking about driveclub is because its finally a complete game. Give it a couple weeks and it will be forgotten again, until the PS+ Version hits the headlines.

Edit: Also FH2 has deep car customisation and tuning. Don't forget about that little feature.

Eejanaika3853d ago

Horizon has no advantages? Way wrong lol.

tgunzz3854d ago

Good update for the driveclub gamer... Enjoy!

marinelife93854d ago

I just picked it up earlier this week and it is really fun. Set it on dynamic weather with time rate set to 60 to really have a blast.

BallsEye3854d ago

The rain effect looks great, but would be better if they actually add car customization or so. You know, things that actually make a game.

gameslayer24113854d ago

You do realize that some of the best racing games of the last generation had little to no car customization and are still some of the best racers to date? Since when does customization make the game?

Gemmol3854d ago

@gameslayer2411

Mario Kart Wii U says hi to your response and metacritic agree since it have highest score for racing game this gen, I could be wrong, I have not check xbox best racer to see if that comment true on metacritic, but usually their game get good ratings.....but regardless Mario Kart got a lot of customization and they adding more with the next DLC for next year.....how can you say no to customization, I guess when other companies do it they do not do it properly so maybe thats why you said that

Giantbomb823853d ago

N4G in a nutshell. Hilarious. "Droplet particles" and "Blur system" Horizon 2 just can't compare. Because Solid game play, good driving and open world; all that is meaningless. What matters is how it looks. The Order:1886 will be the "Drive Club" of 3rd person shooters. Like a polished Turd. Looks great, but nothing else. And Infamous looks great too, and is far superior to That silly Sunset Overdrive. Because all that cartoon game does is play great. Who cares about that? N4G community never disappoints to entertain. I love It!!

G20WLY3853d ago

GTAV has open world racing covered until they bring a proper next gen only open world racer out.

Maybe Forza Horizon 3, maybe Drive Club 2, maybe something different.

No open world driving game so far has managed to avoid those awful floaty car physics though, in my opinion. At least DC physics are tight and the weather update just shows them off in all their glory!

Off topic: ^ You like the look of polished turds? lmao :D

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littlezizu3854d ago

Yes, its awesome currently and online issues which plagued it on launch is resolved now. Gaming site should re-review driveclub.

Gazondaily3854d ago

I don't think they should. A game should be working and complete when it is released. Re-reviews just give more of a reason for devs to release broken/unfinished games.

JMaine5183854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

I agree. I have no problems with sites revisiting games like df did. But don't change the score weeks or months after realease.

SniperControl3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

"Re-reviews just give more of a reason for devs to release broken/unfinished games."

I get what you are saying and totally agree with you, but didnt polygon(i think) mark down DC on a re-review due to on line issues?

Didnt the same happen for MCC on another website due to it's online issues.

DC is a dramatically different game now than it was upon release, i just feel that many gamers are missing out on a very good game because of the original reviews(which the game rightfully deserved)

Bennibop3854d ago

I believe they should review again, they gave it a 6 and said it lacked passion (which it obviously did not/does not.) I believe that Driveclub was unfairly compared to Forza Horizon 2 when both games are trying to achieve different things. For me Driveclub has been my favourite game of the year (I also own FH2,) it is so addictive and so quick.

G20WLY3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

I agree, but at the same time, consider all the people that will get a PS4 for Christmas.

If they read reviews from launch they might believe it's 6-7/10, as was justifiable at the time. With the online improvements and the recent additions, any reviewer looking at the game afresh would certainly arrive at a higher score.

People might choose not to buy this due to launch reviews. While it might send a message to the developers to get it right first time or risk sales being impacted, gamers could miss out on a stunning driving experience.

It's a tough one, ripe for debate. :)

uth113854d ago

I think if a review takes points off for launch issues, they should re-review, reviews are written for future buyers- people who will buy the game after the launch issues are resolved, They won't care if a game was a broken mess at install if it runs fine now.

opoikl3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Yes and no for the reasons stated above. GT5 2.0 was also miles ahead of its launch edition but didn't get re-reviews either. In hindsight, GT5 2.0 can really be seen as the definitive racing game for last gen, but going by the reviews for the game one would think it's an incoherent mess of a game.

N4g_null3854d ago

If sony is smart they will repackage this game with the weather then technically it is a new version, so yeah it would get a re-review. The effects are very nice. This is where a gpgpu shines... post processing of the frame. Hopefully this will push more development teams to use the gpgpu to the max.

I have to give sony props for getting this working. Hopefully broken games are just a ubisoft problem now.

Aquariusgamer3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Agreed. Have we forgotten unity already? Gamers shouldn't be paying for betas. Games need to work/be complete out of the box. Especially if they cost 60 bucks.

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IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3854d ago

Just ask people who have it. I have it, it's fun. It's stunning. The online functions add a little depth. Overall, it's an enjoyable game for people who enjoy hardcore racing games. If you're into the type of racing where you can do what ever you want, go with Mario Kart or Forza 2.

G20WLY3854d ago

The graphical difference between DC and FH2 is astounding though. Check out where they compare the rain's effects on surfaces in this article. Look at pictures 3 and 4 where they compare the foliage in the two games.

I know "one is open world", but they are generations apart. I was genuinely gobsmacked at the difference.

It's DC all the way for me - especially with all the updates it's received - and I'll get my open world driving fixes from the best open world, GTAV.

...And then I'll have another go on Mario Kart because I can! :)

methegreatone3854d ago

I haven't played it but the driving experience looks fantastic. Its not a sim, so you might not get the same depth, but from what I can see from gameplay footage it more than makes up for it. Very intense driving experience.
The visual quality here is... WOW :D
Watch a video of a race in the rain. Watch the water interacting with the windscreen and the wipers and all that. They actually respond to force and motion of the car - they behanve like fluids, clumping up, flowing, all of that. Its nothing short of incredible !!! :D

Never seen anything like that before.

Imalwaysright3854d ago

No they shouldn't. They did what had to be done: review the copy that was sent to them. Devs that release unfinished and broken games shouldn't get a free pass.

Ju3854d ago

They are not getting a free pass. What you think happened since release? Evo worked their asses off to deliver this patch. And it should be rewarded.

Imalwaysright3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Rewarded? For what? For releasing an unfinished game despite delaying it for one year? Is that the mindset devs should have from now on?

"Hey lets release unfinished games. Them stupid gamers with low standards don't care. They even think that we should be rewarded after screwing them over just because we finally finished what we should have finished before release date."

This industry is a joke because of people like you ju. It's not enough that publishers and devs have taken so much value from our hobby over the years and have been releasing broken games left right and center? Now is also ok for devs to release unfinished games and actually reward them for it? What a joke.

jib3854d ago

"Evo worked their asses off to deliver this patch. And it should be rewarded"

i don't get why they should be rewarded for getting things done after release

Ju3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Really? Did you actually buy the game? What does it matter. They worked longer. It's the best game you can get (best weather at least). They have to pay the bill...the price dropped - you aren't even paying the full price. You'd still get the game today - with the same content. Some of us got it earlier. So by taking the risk and going all out to deliver something outstanding and investing more time they should get less? And yet, the ungrateful crybabies on this website still complain? Just GTFO, I have no patience for such an attitude.

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FanboyKilla3854d ago

@lilzizu online still broken. Ive been watching this gaame. Its all drive no club. The online issues are what is delaying my purchase. That and i should have a free ps plus version like they told us.

If it wasnt for a million people buying a game they know is broken just because its sony, and the lack of exclusives on ps4, the ps plus version would be here.

Im not going to give them my money, when they dont do what they say. And its f n broken. Twitch it and see how many online races you find.

kaozgamer3854d ago

You're wrong. Online works fine.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

@FanboyKilla

"online still broken. Ive been watching this gaame. Its all drive no club. The online issues are what is delaying my purchase. That and i should have a free ps plus version like they told us."

You don't even have the game. What are you talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Multiplayer December 10th

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

1080p Multiplayer December 8th

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Don't try to downplay something you've never seen. It's obvious that what you may have seen is limited in it's scope or you're trolling. Either way, it's clear that DriveClub's multiplayer functions are working if you look through the videos.

DeadlyOreo3854d ago

Lol at Fanboykilla

I had to laugh at his post. When someone lies about having a game when he clearly doesn't makes someone the worst kind of fanboy. Haha, how embarrassing.

TheFanboySlayer3854d ago

You're not the fanboy killa....I'm the one that slays fanboys....get it straight. *sarcasm* #notreallythough #slayed

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Spid3r63854d ago

Adding lipstick to a pig is still a pig...This game is really not good. Its just a tech demo!

Ron_Danger3854d ago

Ahh... So you're familiar with MrX's method of trolling...

iceman063854d ago

Pro Tip: Spend more time playing games and less time kissing pigs in lipstick. It'll make for a more informed opinion.

AndrewLB3853d ago

I agree. Re-reviewing it isn't going to change the fact that the game was a massive failure and for most people, the damage has already been done.

btw.. whats with the anti-aliasing used in photo-mode? It really blurs the textures a lot. It's gotta be FXAA along with perhaps a temporal filter. Also, photo-mode does a great job of turning horrible blocky shadows into nice soft shadows with no hard edges.

TheTwelve3854d ago

Can't re-review this game (I mean, it DID come out broke and they asked full-price for it) but this proves that we should not make reviews everything.

il-JumperMT3854d ago

Re-reviews should happen. Else a game like WoW or FFXIV:ARR or any MMO will be 0/10. Unplayable at launch due to connection issues.

Maxor3853d ago

Re-reviewing only happens with MMO. Should Drive Club be re-reviewed then it should be a treated as such. In which case it would then be bashed to bits for it's astounding lack of features in the MMO space.

TheNew13854d ago

I can see whoever re-reviewing it if the problem was the game being broken and got fixed, but to re-review a game because it added a missing feature 2 months after launch isn't right.

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sin72793854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Is not only weather , fisic is a different , great game eurogamer seys that rein and snow effects is the bes ever in video game!

McGruff3854d ago

Is the dynamic weather incorporated into every race/mode, or is it only for online races?

SniperControl3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Every mode has it.

@danowat

My bad, you are right, but i believe there is a new tour that introduces weather, incoming soon from Evo.

danowat3854d ago

Wrong, tour races don't have it.

McGruff3854d ago

Thanks for the replies. My copy is in the mail, can't wait to check it out tomorrow.

Forn3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

@danowat

I think he meant the game modes such as Race, Time Trial, and Drift. But yes, there is a new tour event set that will incorporate weather as well.

danowat3854d ago

It's certainly raised the bar for visual fidelity in racing games, Project cars is going to have to go some to exceed this level of visual fidelity.

hkgamer3854d ago

in terms of visuals, drive club has the advantage over project cars because it has road racing and not track racing.

it sounds stupid, but i think a night race with rain effects on a mountain road with great lighting effects would just make the game look better.

im not saying project cars wont have better looking cars, weather or lighting. its just the fact that its on a track which automatically makes it less appealing.

ok. does my opinion, dont take it as fact. hope others agree or understand what im trying to say

Forn3854d ago

I understand. One thing I love about Driveclub is racing in these beautiful locales and not just on a simple track.

ThatOneGuyThere3854d ago

the tracks in driveclub are among the best ive ever raced on. its the best part about the game.

AndrewLB3853d ago

Umm... not all the locations in Project Cars are tracks. There are some actual roads that are driven in a rally format.

Azure Coast
California Highway
Circuit de la Sarthe

And you can't go comparing an image taken using photomode to actual in-game screenshots of games like Project Cars.

I'd love to see a video comparing DriveClub to real life.

here's project cars:
http://youtu.be/nELMKvrExDw

Or better yet, this is a fan-made trailer that is 100% in-game footage. Enjoy the 4k/60fps.

http://youtu.be/JGiW5DMje1U

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Classic PS4 Racer DriveClub Is Now a Decade Old

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DriveClub, the legendary PS4 racer from shuttered Runcorn studio Evolution, has such an interesting story.

Originally announced alongside the PS4, the game had been intended as a launch title – we even played it in a big London church Sony had rented to showcase the new system prior to its release.

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darthv72265d ago

Evolution was done dirty... DC is still the most stunning visual game of its generation. They certainly deserved better in the end.

VenomUK264d ago (Edited 264d ago )

DriveClub was pretty and I loved the experience of driving in the rain, it was immersive. I had some good races with people from an old forum, but at times I found it to be a bit boring. MotorStorm was such a fun game to play and I loved the controls - it would make sense to remaster that.

DarXyde264d ago

I'd give the visual showcase award of the last generation to The Order: 1886. That game was immaculate.

Uncharted 4 was also absolutely insane, and perhaps manages to use the PS4's power in extremely clever ways.

jznrpg264d ago

It didn’t get good reviews unfortunately

obidanshinobi264d ago

Cause the game was mediocre at best, and surpassed in pretty much every area by Forza Horizon 2.

IRetrouk264d ago

Apart from visuals, driving model, weather effects, only thing forza had was an open world...

Inverno264d ago (Edited 264d ago )

It's multiplayer component was the only thing struggling at launch but the game was still perfectly playable offline. Done dirty is an understatement because how many games after came out with broken online components that got a pass? Now games with an SP and MP get separate reviews for SP and MP smh! SONY shut them down as if Evo had been bleeding money instead of putting out great games. Their fate was undeserved and they were the targets of a media smear campaign due to that one trailer.

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Knushwood Butt264d ago

Loved it.
Now here's a game that would benefit from a remaster.
4K, 60 FPS
I'd buy it.

ravens52264d ago

Might have to fire it up. Got it day 1, it was great to me.

outsider1624264d ago

See? Another reason why physical is important. Going all digital will have you miss out games like this.

Gabrielmpf264d ago

I loved tackling the leaderboards. It's a shame they couldn't even keep them.

Yi-Long264d ago

Brilliant game, I really miss it, and it deserved so much better than what Sony did to it.
Most important reason I liked it; It was FUN. That’s it. The actual gameplay,throwing a car around corners, the challenging AI opponents, the entertaining tracks which were peak-design, etc etc, it was above all just FUN to play.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv72535d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut85535d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio535d ago (Edited 535d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack535d ago (Edited 535d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander1972535d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff2183534d ago (Edited 534d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim535d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno534d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff2183534d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger535d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai535d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC535d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear211216d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.