Digital Foundry re-assesses Evolution's PS4 debut in the wake of this week's spectacular upgrade.
Well the benefits to visuals aside (and DC really does look jaw-droppingly good with these weather effects) weather can literally change the game due to the physics based action. Playing online with players sliding all over the place and fighting for grip is brilliant. Adds a whole new layer to racing. "Unlike many games, DriveClub uses individual droplet particles to represent the rain. Each particle is impacted by the game's motion blur system, giving the impression of long, vertical streaks while driving" This is crazy and you can tell the difference especially when comparing it to Horizon 2, which looks great too but not as good as this.
Going to pick this up now, and play it on my xperia z3! :D Question - Was there a huge sale for this game on black friday that I missed out on? :(
You can get it on amazon for $34.99 DriveClub (PlayStation 4) by Sony Computer Entertainment http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0... BTW I'm tempted to pick it up at that price but I'm have such a backlog that by the time I catch up the ps plus edition will be out. So I'll just wait.
"Question - Was there a huge sale for this game on black friday that I missed out on? :(" Not sure about the game itself (I expect it to be discounted) but the game was bundled with a lot of PS4's for sale. You can probably pick it up for cheap considering Xmas sales and stuff.
NPD is released in about 11 hours so we'll see.
Absolutely a game changer, the weather update adds a truly remarkable and believable graphics upgrade, it isn't just a visual upgrade the racing dynamics are also suitably affected making the racing far more precarious and challenging. A fine upgrade to what was already a superb racing experience.
It was just the bundle (in UK). I bought it, had a few games of Drive Club when I first got it home, thought it was pretty good but hadn't returned to it till two nights ago when I heard about this update. The graphics in the rain are incredible, I've never seen anything like it and the handling and sense of speed is really cool. Still pretty rubbish at it, but getting better. Watched a guy on Playstation Live last night doing time trial on the same track over and over again in the MacLaren P1 in the rain trying to beat his time. The speed was incredible, I must have lost over half an hour just mesmerised by his skills.
It's definately a game-changer, I'd even say that it should be re-reviewed by websites at this point. It's GOTY material by now, crazy what Evolution achieved during the last 2 months.
I actually think the gran turismo 5 demo had better rain on the windshield https://www.youtube.com/wat... GT5 had great rain but the pixelation kinda killed it for me. In DC its kinda like gt6 with the big rain droplets.
<---- also a Z3 owner. =)
..."(did) I missed out on? :(" Yes you did. DriveClub was free when one bought Xperia Z3.(T-Mobile USA)
To those that have it. That weather system seems broken in the videos. You literally can barely see anything while the AI is just racing ahead. Was that a fluke, or is the AI not impaired by vision issues to the weather conditions?
I didn't see this article mention it, but heavy rain will actually make the streams rise in DC. I suppose if you wait long enough. portions of the track will flood out
^There's no "yeah, no" about it fella, what uth11 said is a fact. They demonstrated this in a time lapse video about 3 months ago. I'd find you the link, but I have a feeling it would be a waste of time...
I really want to see cockpit view using Morpheus. Just imagine looking around inside ur car, the back sit, and looking through the middle console for enough change for a cheeseburger at BK.
horizon has no advantages besides being open-world, and yeah it already has been forgotten.
So does every game almost 3 months after release. The only reason people are talking about driveclub is because its finally a complete game. Give it a couple weeks and it will be forgotten again, until the PS+ Version hits the headlines. Edit: Also FH2 has deep car customisation and tuning. Don't forget about that little feature.
Horizon has no advantages? Way wrong lol.
Good update for the driveclub gamer... Enjoy!
I just picked it up earlier this week and it is really fun. Set it on dynamic weather with time rate set to 60 to really have a blast.
The rain effect looks great, but would be better if they actually add car customization or so. You know, things that actually make a game.
You do realize that some of the best racing games of the last generation had little to no car customization and are still some of the best racers to date? Since when does customization make the game?
Don't feed the troll.
@gameslayer2411 Mario Kart Wii U says hi to your response and metacritic agree since it have highest score for racing game this gen, I could be wrong, I have not check xbox best racer to see if that comment true on metacritic, but usually their game get good ratings.....but regardless Mario Kart got a lot of customization and they adding more with the next DLC for next year.....how can you say no to customization, I guess when other companies do it they do not do it properly so maybe thats why you said that
N4G in a nutshell. Hilarious. "Droplet particles" and "Blur system" Horizon 2 just can't compare. Because Solid game play, good driving and open world; all that is meaningless. What matters is how it looks. The Order:1886 will be the "Drive Club" of 3rd person shooters. Like a polished Turd. Looks great, but nothing else. And Infamous looks great too, and is far superior to That silly Sunset Overdrive. Because all that cartoon game does is play great. Who cares about that? N4G community never disappoints to entertain. I love It!!
GTAV has open world racing covered until they bring a proper next gen only open world racer out. Maybe Forza Horizon 3, maybe Drive Club 2, maybe something different. No open world driving game so far has managed to avoid those awful floaty car physics though, in my opinion. At least DC physics are tight and the weather update just shows them off in all their glory! Off topic: ^ You like the look of polished turds? lmao :D
Yes, its awesome currently and online issues which plagued it on launch is resolved now. Gaming site should re-review driveclub.
I don't think they should. A game should be working and complete when it is released. Re-reviews just give more of a reason for devs to release broken/unfinished games.
I agree. I have no problems with sites revisiting games like df did. But don't change the score weeks or months after realease.
"Re-reviews just give more of a reason for devs to release broken/unfinished games." I get what you are saying and totally agree with you, but didnt polygon(i think) mark down DC on a re-review due to on line issues? Didnt the same happen for MCC on another website due to it's online issues. DC is a dramatically different game now than it was upon release, i just feel that many gamers are missing out on a very good game because of the original reviews(which the game rightfully deserved)
I believe they should review again, they gave it a 6 and said it lacked passion (which it obviously did not/does not.) I believe that Driveclub was unfairly compared to Forza Horizon 2 when both games are trying to achieve different things. For me Driveclub has been my favourite game of the year (I also own FH2,) it is so addictive and so quick.
I agree, but at the same time, consider all the people that will get a PS4 for Christmas. If they read reviews from launch they might believe it's 6-7/10, as was justifiable at the time. With the online improvements and the recent additions, any reviewer looking at the game afresh would certainly arrive at a higher score. People might choose not to buy this due to launch reviews. While it might send a message to the developers to get it right first time or risk sales being impacted, gamers could miss out on a stunning driving experience. It's a tough one, ripe for debate. :)
I think if a review takes points off for launch issues, they should re-review, reviews are written for future buyers- people who will buy the game after the launch issues are resolved, They won't care if a game was a broken mess at install if it runs fine now.
Yes and no for the reasons stated above. GT5 2.0 was also miles ahead of its launch edition but didn't get re-reviews either. In hindsight, GT5 2.0 can really be seen as the definitive racing game for last gen, but going by the reviews for the game one would think it's an incoherent mess of a game.
If sony is smart they will repackage this game with the weather then technically it is a new version, so yeah it would get a re-review. The effects are very nice. This is where a gpgpu shines... post processing of the frame. Hopefully this will push more development teams to use the gpgpu to the max. I have to give sony props for getting this working. Hopefully broken games are just a ubisoft problem now.
Agreed. Have we forgotten unity already? Gamers shouldn't be paying for betas. Games need to work/be complete out of the box. Especially if they cost 60 bucks.
Just ask people who have it. I have it, it's fun. It's stunning. The online functions add a little depth. Overall, it's an enjoyable game for people who enjoy hardcore racing games. If you're into the type of racing where you can do what ever you want, go with Mario Kart or Forza 2.
The graphical difference between DC and FH2 is astounding though. Check out where they compare the rain's effects on surfaces in this article. Look at pictures 3 and 4 where they compare the foliage in the two games. I know "one is open world", but they are generations apart. I was genuinely gobsmacked at the difference. It's DC all the way for me - especially with all the updates it's received - and I'll get my open world driving fixes from the best open world, GTAV. ...And then I'll have another go on Mario Kart because I can! :)
I haven't played it but the driving experience looks fantastic. Its not a sim, so you might not get the same depth, but from what I can see from gameplay footage it more than makes up for it. Very intense driving experience. The visual quality here is... WOW :D Watch a video of a race in the rain. Watch the water interacting with the windscreen and the wipers and all that. They actually respond to force and motion of the car - they behanve like fluids, clumping up, flowing, all of that. Its nothing short of incredible !!! :D Never seen anything like that before.
No they shouldn't. They did what had to be done: review the copy that was sent to them. Devs that release unfinished and broken games shouldn't get a free pass.
They are not getting a free pass. What you think happened since release? Evo worked their asses off to deliver this patch. And it should be rewarded.
Rewarded? For what? For releasing an unfinished game despite delaying it for one year? Is that the mindset devs should have from now on? "Hey lets release unfinished games. Them stupid gamers with low standards don't care. They even think that we should be rewarded after screwing them over just because we finally finished what we should have finished before release date." This industry is a joke because of people like you ju. It's not enough that publishers and devs have taken so much value from our hobby over the years and have been releasing broken games left right and center? Now is also ok for devs to release unfinished games and actually reward them for it? What a joke.
"Evo worked their asses off to deliver this patch. And it should be rewarded" i don't get why they should be rewarded for getting things done after release
Really? Did you actually buy the game? What does it matter. They worked longer. It's the best game you can get (best weather at least). They have to pay the bill...the price dropped - you aren't even paying the full price. You'd still get the game today - with the same content. Some of us got it earlier. So by taking the risk and going all out to deliver something outstanding and investing more time they should get less? And yet, the ungrateful crybabies on this website still complain? Just GTFO, I have no patience for such an attitude.
@lilzizu online still broken. Ive been watching this gaame. Its all drive no club. The online issues are what is delaying my purchase. That and i should have a free ps plus version like they told us. If it wasnt for a million people buying a game they know is broken just because its sony, and the lack of exclusives on ps4, the ps plus version would be here. Im not going to give them my money, when they dont do what they say. And its f n broken. Twitch it and see how many online races you find.
You're wrong. Online works fine.
@FanboyKilla "online still broken. Ive been watching this gaame. Its all drive no club. The online issues are what is delaying my purchase. That and i should have a free ps plus version like they told us." You don't even have the game. What are you talking about? https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat... Multiplayer December 10th https://www.youtube.com/wat... https://www.youtube.com/wat... 1080p Multiplayer December 8th https://www.youtube.com/wat... Don't try to downplay something you've never seen. It's obvious that what you may have seen is limited in it's scope or you're trolling. Either way, it's clear that DriveClub's multiplayer functions are working if you look through the videos.
Lol at Fanboykilla I had to laugh at his post. When someone lies about having a game when he clearly doesn't makes someone the worst kind of fanboy. Haha, how embarrassing.
Sure it is....
You're not the fanboy killa....I'm the one that slays fanboys....get it straight. *sarcasm* #notreallythough #slayed
Adding lipstick to a pig is still a pig...This game is really not good. Its just a tech demo!
Ahh... So you're familiar with MrX's method of trolling...
Pro Tip: Spend more time playing games and less time kissing pigs in lipstick. It'll make for a more informed opinion.
I agree. Re-reviewing it isn't going to change the fact that the game was a massive failure and for most people, the damage has already been done. btw.. whats with the anti-aliasing used in photo-mode? It really blurs the textures a lot. It's gotta be FXAA along with perhaps a temporal filter. Also, photo-mode does a great job of turning horrible blocky shadows into nice soft shadows with no hard edges.
Can't re-review this game (I mean, it DID come out broke and they asked full-price for it) but this proves that we should not make reviews everything.
Re-reviews should happen. Else a game like WoW or FFXIV:ARR or any MMO will be 0/10. Unplayable at launch due to connection issues.
Re-reviewing only happens with MMO. Should Drive Club be re-reviewed then it should be a treated as such. In which case it would then be bashed to bits for it's astounding lack of features in the MMO space.
I can see whoever re-reviewing it if the problem was the game being broken and got fixed, but to re-review a game because it added a missing feature 2 months after launch isn't right.
Is not only weather , fisic is a different , great game eurogamer seys that rein and snow effects is the bes ever in video game!
Is the dynamic weather incorporated into every race/mode, or is it only for online races?
Every mode has it. @danowat My bad, you are right, but i believe there is a new tour that introduces weather, incoming soon from Evo.
Wrong, tour races don't have it.
Thanks for the replies. My copy is in the mail, can't wait to check it out tomorrow.
@danowat I think he meant the game modes such as Race, Time Trial, and Drift. But yes, there is a new tour event set that will incorporate weather as well.
It's certainly raised the bar for visual fidelity in racing games, Project cars is going to have to go some to exceed this level of visual fidelity.
in terms of visuals, drive club has the advantage over project cars because it has road racing and not track racing. it sounds stupid, but i think a night race with rain effects on a mountain road with great lighting effects would just make the game look better. im not saying project cars wont have better looking cars, weather or lighting. its just the fact that its on a track which automatically makes it less appealing. ok. does my opinion, dont take it as fact. hope others agree or understand what im trying to say
I understand. One thing I love about Driveclub is racing in these beautiful locales and not just on a simple track.
the tracks in driveclub are among the best ive ever raced on. its the best part about the game.
Umm... not all the locations in Project Cars are tracks. There are some actual roads that are driven in a rally format. Azure Coast California Highway Circuit de la Sarthe And you can't go comparing an image taken using photomode to actual in-game screenshots of games like Project Cars. I'd love to see a video comparing DriveClub to real life. here's project cars: http://youtu.be/nELMKvrExDw Or better yet, this is a fan-made trailer that is 100% in-game footage. Enjoy the 4k/60fps. http://youtu.be/JGiW5DMje1U