343i Reacts to Halo 5: Guardians Leak; Give Info on Combat and Encourage to Play It; Reveal Tomorrow

The leak of Halo 5: Guardians footage happened earlier today has caused quite the storm within the community, and 343 Industries Studio Heads Bonnie Ross and Josh Holmes chimed in to give more information and encourage fans to play before they judge.

[-Foxtrot]

"No penalty to hip fire in H5, no movement penalty when scoping/zooming, no flinch. Tune in for the beta gameplay reveal at #HaloFest Monday"

That's calmed me a little bit but we'll see, plus descope will be coming back

Still think sprint will ruin it. Some guy on Gaf said it best

"- Tends to be accompanied by a lowering of base movement speed (vs. a game with no sprint mechanic) in order to draw a clearer contrast between sprinting and walking.

- Changes combat loop from "run and gun" to "run or gun"

- Allows players a "get out of jail free card" from combat if they're caught out of position or try to make a bad challenge

- Turns players with sword/hammer into gods, and allows for too many "sprint and smack" instakills with melee

- Pretty much destroys any classic/remade maps that weren't made with sprint in mind"

As I've said, we'll see though. We all thought the multiplayer in Halo 4 was going to be bloody amazing, then look what happened.

[Abriael]

Personally, I will wait and see. I don't think any series can thrive without evolution and change, so I'll approach the beta with an open mind.

It's not like we ain't getting easy access to it anyway.

[Elit3Nick]

agreed, the thing with Reach and Halo 4 was that they tried introducing too many new elements at once, now that they took out loadouts and armor abilities people can have a better feel for if sprint is a worthwhile addition to the series. I feel though like they will remove it if people don't like it, since that's the whole point of this beta.

[HOLDERofFOOD]

I agree and I'll give it a chance, however, my first impression is still disappointment. I agree that games need evolution, but I wish the evolution stayed within the game's own themes rather than making an absolutely massive change like adding sprint. I think they could touch it up, improve graphics/animation, work with movement speeds and how the overall combat feels, but adding sprint juts feels out of place for Halo and it makes it feel like it's trying to be CoD. But hey, maybe without loadouts and all that other stuff (because I think those were even worse than sprint, like SO MUCH worse), it will still be awesome. Sprint has a chance I guess, but loadouts took away a lot for me.

[XBLSkull]

They do proper betas with Halo so there is plenty of time for tweaking. None of this "Play the BETA 2 weeks before the game releases!" bull****. 343i will have a year to tweak the game. Most betas anymore are a joke and that is clearly no the case here.

[DLConspiracy]

That's the way to be about it. The game can't stay exactly the same forever. It has to grow a little bit. I am open to it too. If I wanted classic mode all the time I am sure they could just put classic in the game type.

[4Sh0w]

I'm as big a Halo fan as any but I come from the school of thought that change is good WHEN ITS DONE FOR A REAL PURPOSE AND OF COURSE IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY. So many people blast COD and other franchises for sticking to the same recipe but then they say Halo should stay exactly the same or only want cosmetic changes= that's NOT CHANGE, that's wash rinse, "add new tweaks", repeat. Halo has been around a long time, I think 343 can evolve Halo while still very much keeping the core game and reinventing Halo itself.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

Evolution isn't copying every thing else out there and becoming them. Evolution is expanding upon your gameplay in a meaningful way. Adding sprint and turning into a glorified COD in space isn't that.

[telekineticmantis]

Cant see the clips for some reason, but ill go off my references. Like I always say to fanboys, you want other people to play your game, you gotta get with the times. When I played Halo 3 it was virtually unplayable, and I loved Halo 2, but I got so used to the immersive controls of the modern day shooter, Halo seemed so dated. Plus, players with swords were already gods anyway, they should penalize them, not everyone else.

[HOLDERofFOOD]

I agree personally. The problem is when games have sprinting you have to make the maps larger, but when a player is sprinting they can't actively participate in combat. So you're spending a lot of time just going from A to B without any other options. If you remove sprinting you make the maps a bit smaller, but then the player is always engaged and prepared for combat. Sprinting works in games like CoD, but it's frustrating that Bungie added it in the first place to Halo Reach. It should never have been part of Halo to begin with, every Halo with it has generally been perceived as having inferior multiplayer to Halo 2/3. Why keep it? Very frustrating.

[mediate-this]

Halo maps are massive. Even halo 1 maps are huge, sprinting is not a game breaker. I actually think if halo 5 does not have sprinting it will fail for M.P.

I truly believe destiny M.P is the evolution of halo gameplay. Bungie made it so good with the powers, the sprint to slide and super tight controls.

Sprinting brings a different tactic to the m.p, it surely doesn't break it. No way is halo having sprinting going to make anything like cod at all

[HOLDERofFOOD]

@mediate-this

I don't think Halo 1 is really a fair example, Halo 1 was made during a very different time for console games and there wasn't even online. I don't think sprinting is "the evolution" so much as it was just taking a pointer from another successful franchise. In my opinion it was a pointer that was never needed and in fact detracts from parts of what made Halo multiplayer awesome. I personally think sprinting almost makes the game feel more ADD and less tactical. It's okay to move for three seconds and not feel super fast or run into anybody. Sprinting also makes it way easier to just turn and run from a fight you're losing. If the person fighting you wants to chase you, he can't shoot, if he wants to shoot, he can't chase you. This works in CoD because you're dead in .5 seconds anyway. But in Halo you can have real fights and don't die in less than a second, so it's lame how often people can just run away like that. You can always run away I mean, but sprinting makes it so much easier so it's not really cool if you pull it off.

[ReturnToSanity]

How the hell is sprint going to ruin it? Sprint was in Reach as an ability and it was standard in 4. What has changed in 5 with Sprint that wasn't in 4?
You never played Halo have you?

[Stiffler]

No, he hasn't. He clearly has never liked any Halo either and that's why he's evidently so narrow-minded.

Ignore -Foxtrot, he's a troll that will stop at nothing to defame ANY MS AAA game.

It's great to be a non biased gamer. Leave the bickering to the immature fanboys that cannot think for themselves ;)

[pompombrum]

Sprint was a core mechanic in Halo Reach and 4 true and between both of those games, they all but destroyed the halo community. Halo 3 maintained a health population all the way leading into Halo Reach's release, neither Reach nor 4 maintained anywhere near those sort of figures a year after their respective releases. To accuse someone of never playing a halo game while referring to Reach and 4 for features is pretty laughable tbh.. there is a reason 343 are quick to put any speculation to rest when linking mp features between halo 5 and reach/4

[Gamer777]

People overreact to everything. Dev changes part of game people rage. Dev keeps the game the same people are like "this series needs to change or die".

I found nothing wrong with Halo 4 having sprint. You could use sprint to escape attackers or avoid damage and catch people trying to get away. You could also be punished for sprinting too much and leaving yourself open for attack.

[dasbeer88]

Remember there is a white-line difference between Halo 3 and Halo 4. Halo 4 wasn't supposed to be Halo 3.5 by adding slightly new elements here and there, but rather change or otherwise revamp the multiplayer and campaign in various different ways.

That I'll give 343i a 1+ point.

However since these changes like sprint, ADS, and killstreaks did more harm than good toward the multiplayer, I expect them to take the conservative route like following Halo and Halo 2.

[16bitNutritionist]

I personally loved Halo 4 Single and Multiplayer and I've been with Halo from the start...the series needs to evolve to stay fresh...I loved every change and the grapics 343i can produce is astounding...

[mediate-this]

Dude. You're not even buying the game let alone have a xb1, how does this ruin anything for you?

This is the thing bucko, you don't know how it's going to be till you play it. Halo gameplay is always crisp and a sprint button does not make a scrub tactic.

Play beta first. Get a xb1 to play the beta then you can talk. And aren't you a sp only type guy anyways?

[mhunterjr]

Sprinting is hardly a get out of jail free card. You are completely sacrificing your ability to counter attack.in many ways, it opens you up to more damage...

Also, looking at the rest of the leaked footage, the normal move speed is no slower than its ever been. It actually looks faster.

The balance with melee weapons is TBD. But they weren't God weapons in halo4, because there was a recoil when coming out of a Sprint.

If the remade maps, are remade with Sprint in mind, then they aren't ruined...

I'm glad to learn that the scope/zoom system is more an aesthetic change than a convergence with COD. De-scoping is back, and hip-fire is still as useful as its always been...

Much of the worry has been unfounded...we need to just let them reveal this properly

[spicelicka]

While I agree with most of what you're saying, I thought halo 4 was amazing. It did a lot of things wrong but I had a shit ton of fun with that game.

And you don't have to respond to fanboys being mad, don't pay them any attention.

[Sonital]

Given the context of the situation and the response from 343, that first comment GIF on the Dualshockers article absolutely cracked me up!

[jrshankill]

Here is a thought..

Classic mode. Turn it off and it will remove the things you are crying about.

Problem solved.

[Illusive_Man]

Spartans run 50 mph.Halo 1-3 are simply too slow for me after spending hours with Reach and Halo 4. There are ways to still overpower a running player. Good headshot or well placed grenade can still take out most runners.

Serious question are the people complaining about non issues like sprint any good at Halo ? I mean seriously there are way more important issues such as weapon balancing and map layout.

[gangsta_red]

Except you never played Halo 4, because the multiplayer was amazing.

But then again what can we all expect from someone who thought ADS was in the game and automatically declared Halo 5 a wrap after watching only 6 seconds of leaked, blurry gameplay?

High level trolling at it's finest as this guy spams every Halo article and gets away with it. I can understand if gameplay was shown, reviews were out, gamers had played the game but none of that is here.

You know like The Order or Driveclub where people actually played the game and gameplay is on the web. But for some reason we get told to wait and see and stop judging when it comes to those games...

I wonder why...?

How the hell is sprint going to ruin a game? I mean you were already proven wrong about ADS so now you have to continue the high level trolling by complaining about sprint.

[annoyedgamer]

After Halo 4 killstreaks, vehicle nerfs and camping I have 0 faith. 343 will have to prove themselves all over again and they are already off to a bad start.

http://abload.de/img/halois...

[aviator189]

well, armor abilities, perks, ordinances are all out. and it's equal starts as well.
already sounds like a great start to me.

[DarkOcelet]

http://a.disquscdn.com/get?...

[Halo2ODST2]

Hopefully they will not mess halo up a second time

[christocolus]

I think ill take their advice and play it to make my own impression, people just seem to be jumping to conslusions and yet no one has played the game. Why not try it out 1st before complaining?

[HaydenJameSmith]

agreed...

[jollygoodchap8]

Also agreed...watching dummies hate on the game on a 7 second video is mind numbing. How about waiting out and seeing more before crying like a entitled little baby?

[Abriael]

I'm actually wondering what percentage of the hate is true concern for the series from actual fans, and what percentage is just concern trolling.

[Automatic79]

I agree Chris people making assumptions without playing the game is just wrong.

[brotherlymoses]

It's sad to see one of your favorite fanchise End. R.I.P Halo, gone but not forgotten.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

if it is your fav franchise then you wouldn't throw it to the curb so quickly

[Masterchief_thegoat]

he just trolling, he not even a fan.. for me i can't wait for more info tomorrow

[Tedakin]

You just threw one of your fav franchises out due to 9 seconds of leaked off camera video that people are jumping to conclusions over. Makes sense.

[PS4theplayers]

Despite being a fan of Sony
(look at my avatar), I hope the
343i do a great job on Halo 5.

[juaburg91]

Im not one to sh!t on games before playing them myself, but the Aim Down Sights bothers me a bit. The perspective does not fit with Halo's DNA and movement.

Some may call it evolution, and yes thats fair to assume and call for, but i dont feel it needed evolution in the aim department.

With all bitching aside, we can all agree and hope that this game turns out wellllllll. I dont want 343 to be remembered as a company that produced shitty original halo games, but decent remastered versions.

[SliceOfTruth888]

The fact they had to say anything is ridiculous. If you want to play old halo you're in luck its coming out Tuesday god forbid a company tries to not give the same old every time

[strangeaeon]

Where did I put my "Jump to Conclusions" mat?

[DanzoSAMA]

WTF i can't sleep now 😫

[No_Limit]

If I want to listen to the old metallica, I'll listen to Master of Puppets or Injustice for all. If I am still a fan of Metallica, I'll give their new record, Death Magnetic, a chance. It may not be the same as previous Metallica albums, but is it any good and still represent the spirit of the band that I love? The answer is yes! It is not like they had released a country album but it is still "in your face" hardrock heavy metal even if it is not the same music arrangement as the old songs.

For Halo and any other games for that matter, changes sometimes is good and rejuvenate a franchise. Zelda, for example, went through many gameplay changes over the years and the series keep on reinventing itself and the next game should also do the same for the series. If you want Halo 2 MP, MS gave you that with the relase of MCC this coming tuesday, and if you want the next gen and new chapter of Halo, that is what Halo 5 is. Peopel need to give put that in perspective and let the game reveal itself in a year instead of moaning and b!tching over a 6 seconds video from Neogaf.

[MoreRPG]

I dont mind having sprint on Halo as long as there are no armor abilities and weapons loadout in Halo 5.

[Haloizliefok]

I actually totally agree with you. I never had an issue killing targets that ran. Just made it more satisfying when I caught them... is that creepy?

[ScorpiusX]

There is nothing that can keep me from buy this game period.

[takohma]

I like your spirit man.

[Ashunderfire86]

There is nothing wrong with a sprint button for this game, but Halo 4 multiplayer lay a fowl taste in my mouth, when the modes were too segregated to certain maps and the number of players. I hated how I couldn't play every map with any game mode including Slayer(which they didn't have at launch)! What was the point of changing armor colors of Master Chiefs, if you don't have Slayer? Everything is red vs blue! The matchmaking keeps on showing 3 of the same maps over and over for certain game modes it got very boring. I felt like I was just playing a demo with the same 3 maps?

I really hope Halo 5 take a page from Halo 1, 2, and 3 to evolve from those games. Please don't follow Halo 4, which will be the least playing multiplayer game in the Master Chief Collection. Guarantee!

[Reaper29r]

@Fox get outta here troll. I went into 3 Halo articles and you're in each one spewing your crap. OT: I don't get why people are freaking out, specially over videos filmed with a brick that lasted a few seconds. I seriously doubt after stating constantly they are going back to the roots that they are going to add ADS. That was the BR zoom. And the sprint.. It's 2014, the game needs to innovate and adapt to stay relevant. That is all they're trying to do while staying as true to classic as possible. And the sprint was different than other games. It wasn't infinite ala Battlefield 3/4. Plus the idiots that just sprint around everywhere in Reach and 4 usually got gunned down when they bumped into an enemy (seeing as how there was a significant delay). It's a lot more intense and exciting sprinting to cover and it helps deal with campers who just want to hang back and plug you with a BR/DMR. Plus.. how are you a walking tank like super soldier, but you can't run? Might as well go and remove jump while they're at it. What I do hope for is for loadouts to go away and that they make armor abilities a map pick up, just like weapons. Oh and melee executions, including sprint death tackles. Those were just freaking awesome. Just relax folks, tune into Halo fest tomorrow, and try out the beta before making all sorts of crazy assumptions and boycotts. And hey, if you don't like it, cool. The rest of us will be having fun with it.

[Simmo3D]

Can't wait to see the gameplay and try the beta. I'm up for changes as long as it still feels like Halo at its core. I think 343i know they need to keep Halo familiar because that's what made the game so popular. I'm so glad I stuck with Xbox all the way since the original console. So many great game franchises and it only ever gets better. I Finish work at midnight tonight and I'll be getting straight home to play MCC!!!!

[mochachino]

I'll wait and play before jumping to conclusion and passing judgement.

[deadpools_n64]

I'm not sold on it fully yet. But I am paying attention with the thought of getting it. Waiting for the "wow" moment.

[beastModeOn]

Looking pretty mediocre so far.

[fanboysmackdown]

Oh look a troll is spotted on an xbox post....what a shock.

[Tinglebob]

Just wait and see hopefully they don't make one with multiplayer similar to 343i last halo was easily the worst in the series. Loving destiny at the minute bungie does these multiplayer games the best so far though their single player campaigns can be weak so will be interesting to compare

[artsaber]

Hate to say it, but it doesn't matter what they do to this game because people will buy it anyways. Not saying that it is or will be, but if it was released as the worst shooter ever, it and its successor would still instantly sell millions. So happy jump and shooting.

[qwerty676]

if anything this leak has caused more advertisement about the reveal today

now even more people will probably tune in.

[ShadowL9]

Counter Strike is still one of the most watched shooters after so many years and several different versions and has tons of tournaments and viewers every year, all without sprint. People keep saying Halo needs sprint to evolve, but clearly that is not the case. If people can keep playing CS after so any years without sprint, they can definitely build Halo without sprint. Sprint isn't a necessity to make a modern game and when you build your game around not having sprint, you can still have natural and fast paced movement and combat.

[ninjahunter]

The real call p duty ADVANCED warfare. Ba dum tssch.

[mokkeyrg2]

lets just wait til dec 29th and play our selves yh!

[mochachino]

I don't even have an xone but people should wait to play or wait for previews before denouncing it. Everything else is conjectural. ADS may make it worse or it could prove to be an evolution of the halo gameplay. No one knows yet.