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Developer Explains Why MotoGP 14 Is Not 60fps On PS4, Real Deal Is The Resolution

"Milestone's Mot oGP 14 runs at 1080p and 30 frames per second on the PlayStation 4. Given that racing games usually run at 60 frames per second, why did the develpers opt for 30 fps?" (MotoGP 14, PS4)

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Corpser  +   565d ago
Like they need to explain lol, Because they can't get it to run at 60 FPS, and it's not artistic choice because it's 60 FPS on pc
user7402931  +   565d ago
lol people these days...

zomg pacman released 30 fps 1080p why no 60? because said console is not that powerful lol ...
ShinMaster  +   564d ago
They should have sacrificed resolution instead of frame-rate.
CervantesPR  +   565d ago
Its not the PS4 fault, im sure they can achieve 1080P 60FPS. Its the devs fault.
imchuckbass  +   565d ago
Of course it's the PS4's fault. When specs that weak devs can only do so much.
The_Infected  +   565d ago

"Of course it's the PS4's fault. When specs that weak devs can only do so much."

Yea that's why Uncharted: A Thief's End will be 1080p 60fps? Not to mention the game looks better than anything we've seen on a console so far.
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Cueil  +   565d ago
@The_Infected how does that change the fact that it's weak hardware... it's weak... you can throw a fit all you want, but that's the truth.
ScottyHoss  +   565d ago
The point is its not THAT weak. There are already games at 1080p 60FPS, so why couldn't they do it?
C-H-E-F  +   565d ago
I'm sure with more time and or experienced devs, they could've got the fps up to 60fps, motogp isn't a demanding game what so ever compared to games that are running at 60fps @ 1080p on ps4 and xbox one. So, I def. put the blame on the dev tools and or dev experience. Maybe the engine isn't cut out for this gen? ANYWAYS....

“In my honest opinion the real deal is the resolution, rather than 1080p, a 4K texture makes a huge difference, especially on the new TVs that are starting to come out recently.”

The sooner xbox gamers realize that 900p won't give you that 1080p crispiness, the sooner we all can mellow out about this reso/fps war.
Darkstares  +   565d ago
There are 34 bikes on the screen meaning it would be quite hard to achieve 60fps and 1080p on the PS4. Maybe in the future after tweaking the system and getting to know the hardware more they could pull it off. Talking about Uncharted is comparing apples and oranges.
Eonjay  +   565d ago
The game is on PC Xbox 360, Vita, PS3 and PS4. Thats like saying that its the Xbox Ones fault that its not on the console. People relax. He said he was going for more detail over framerate. And yes with more power, he could have pushed the PS4 to 60 FPS, but its still early in the console life cycle.
Ripsta7th  +   565d ago
The Infected- you better stop saying that before it ends up biting you in the ass, they said they were aiming for 1080p 60fps not that they had alredy achieved it
fr0sty  +   565d ago
Yes, but they also said aiming for TLOU's remake, and then they achieved it. I know the 2 games are in different leagues, but this is Naughty Dog we're talking about. They never cease to impress.
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SonyPS4  +   564d ago
PS4 uses a re-purposed PC GPU from 2012. Most PC gamers on a budget wouldn't bother considering using that. There will be limitations and throughout the lifecycle developers will choose between 1080p or 30FPS if they want to cram higher quality visuals. Many games already run at 30.
vishmarx  +   564d ago
wihtout user patches,
pc couldnt even run dark souls and gta iv with playable framerates.
thats weak hardware too right?
pc's have trouble emulating wii games,probably has to do with pc being weaker than wii hardware ,right?

or maybe there's something known as optmization??
nobody is arguing about about pc.its power is unlimited and proportional to the money you throw at it.
it doesnt mean ps4 is weak for gaming.just young and unoptimized
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The_Infected  +   565d ago
"Real Deal Is The Resolution"

No the real deal should be frame rate then resolution.
Cueil  +   565d ago
100 percent agree... who wants to play a racing game at 30fps... I'll live with it if it's open world or doing something unique, but resolution shouldn't get in the way
The_Infected  +   565d ago
Driveclub I can understand being 30fps because the game looks absolutely stunning especially the weather system. This game on the other hand should be 60fps. It don't even look that great honestly.
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BitbyDeath  +   565d ago
Frame rate can't be that important if people are harping on about last of us shadows being a reason to switch from 60 to 30.
truefan1  +   565d ago
I believe they feel the need to explain it because the ps4 is supposed to be a SUPER PC CONSOLE, 50% more powerful than the closest competitor. Also sony execs promised their lives if 1080p 60fps wasn't achieved on ps4.

@The Infected Nice edit, you initially told me to go play my xbox, but realized that made you look sour so you changed it to get a few likes. I am free to comment on any article, I merely responded to a comment.
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The_Infected  +   565d ago
Here you are again in a PS4 article. You Xbox fans kill me. Lol
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chrisarsenalsavart  +   565d ago
Why don't you free yourself of embarrassment?
Why do you feel the need to be on every single ps4 related articles. Just to troll everyone? so for the last time, ps4 is and always will be the most powerful and best selling console this gen.
But that doesn't mean x1 doesn't and won't have great games too. I actually own a PS4, a WIIU and an x1. Maybe u should too(if u can afford of course) just to make u realise how silly u ve behaving and to show you that gaming is so much more than pure brand loyalty.
Ask yourself one question
Did ps2 stopped Xbox having great games?did ps3 stopped x360 having great games?no
So what are u so afraid of??? Why do u spend more time trolling than gaming?
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CaptainObvious878  +   565d ago
I thought the xbone had all these games to play?

So why are you here in a PS4 article trolling?
TheGreatAndPowerful  +   565d ago
It's a PS4 only game and they targeted 30fps? What the f***.
Eonjay  +   565d ago
Its on Xbox 360, PSVita, PS3 and PS4 as well as PC
The devs aren't that talented. Motogp looks like and up rezzed ps3 game to be honest. There's no way the game is that taxing that it has to look like that AND still only running 30fps.

Luckily, for them, it's a fun game.
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CoTton_MoUtH  +   565d ago
The question should be why the hell isn't this in America. Like we a third world country
FanboyKilla  +   564d ago
lol when its xone its xone is soooo weak, it sucks, ps4 mo powa. now its the devs fault. lmfao imo its always the devs fault. if one man has already accomplished it, why are you telling me it cant be done? its the devs choice or lack of talent. sony fans scream 1080p blah blah blah, so thats what they get 1080p. i haven't seen one article, not even from ps, that says how fun a game is to play, that even looks fun to play. its all this 1080p looks amazing shi*. so is it a coincidence that im not having fun with my ps4? hmmmmm

reko  +   564d ago
xone is weak. what you talkin about lamefanboy? lol
Dee_91  +   564d ago
I wonder how many people in here actually care about this game.. and not just another 60fps argument... I'm betting very few.
WeAreLegion  +   565d ago
That was 30 FPS? Didn't even notice it. Of course, I didn't really like it, either. But still.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   565d ago
"Of course, I didn't really like it, either. But still."

-The thing with -60fps. is that it is very hard to notice, with the naked eye.

Smooth As Butter/Silky smooth Controls,. is the best way to describe it.. Hence TLoU.Remastered -we will be mind blown.. Especially the Multi-Player.
d_g  +   565d ago
no the 60fps is the Real Deal

Because it's racing game
Peloun  +   565d ago
Cant even run a racing game in 1080p and 60fps. Next gen is such a dissapointment
WeAreLegion  +   565d ago
Project CARS is 1080p/60fps on PS4. MotoGp 14 can run at 1080p/60fps on PS4, I'm sure. They just didn't feel it was necessary to spend extra time and money on it. Neither do I. The game runs just fine at 30 FPS. Seriously. Go download the demo.
GamingSinceThe80s  +   565d ago
Forza 5 was 60fps was it not?And that was a launch game on the less powerful Xboxone.The backgrounds left much to be desired.But the racing was very fast and smooth.
Peloun  +   565d ago
I think its more about the hardware than the time
OldDude  +   565d ago
Project Cars sis 1080p/60 on everything, including WiiU. And no, 30fps is inexcusable for a racing game.
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WeAreLegion  +   565d ago
@GamingSinceThe80s and @OldDude

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. I agree with you guys. Why did I get disagrees?

30 FPS is inexcusable? Forza Horizon? Need For Speed Rivals? Driveclub? They all look and run incredibly, even at 30 fps. It's not inexcusable. You're just being a prick.
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yewles1  +   565d ago

"Project Cars sis 1080p/60 on everything, including WiiU. And no, 30fps is inexcusable for a racing game."

It's 720p/30 on Wii U.
Nekroo91  +   565d ago
@Pelodun the game looks like a ps3 game, its not the hardware
Bennibop  +   565d ago
I own motogp 14 on ps4, it is a poorly coded game from a nothing studio so it's in ability to get it to 60fps is no surprise. It is no looker to be honest and it's 30fps has nothing to do with ps4 even x1 should be able to run it 60fps.
Spotie  +   564d ago
@Gaming: And yet the next Forza isn't 60fps. And the last one had cardboard crowds? Regardless of the framerate, no game on PS4 has resorted to cardboard crowds.
TheGreatAndPowerful  +   565d ago
But...Uncharted 4, Deep Down, MGS5, PlanetSide 2 and others are 1080p/60fps. Devs didn't target 60fps at the beginning of development and they also probably thought users wouldn't care/notice a difference?
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Rock-Lee  +   565d ago
Don't care about this game anyway. Played the demo and it looked HORRIBLE. It's just the PS3 version with a higher resolution. The developers should be ashamed of themselves asking $60 for this piece of shit.
incredibleMULK  +   565d ago
greatness awaits!....(mouthfart).
XiSasukeUchiha  +   565d ago
Thanks Lee, really now hmmm I knew my Sharingan was feeling something and this was it!
Dontworrybhappy  +   565d ago
Bullshit. Frame rate over resolution everyday for me. I played PS4 alpha and beta for Destiny and Xbox 1 beta with my friends. PS4 1080, X1 900 couldn't tell any fricken difference. MUCH rather have higher frame rate than resolution every. Freakin. Time. If GTA V is 1080 on PS4 and X1 @ 30 frames I'm liable to shit.
CervantesPR  +   565d ago
Gran Turismo 7 SAVE US!!
voltron420170  +   565d ago
That'll be out in 2017 lol
turdburgler1080  +   565d ago
PlayStation4...more like PlayStation fail. Get ready for reality to sink in.
ScottyHoss  +   565d ago
Wait until you grow up, realize you wasted your childhood attempting to troll, and have no life :) better get ready for that reality to sink in.
Dontworrybhappy  +   565d ago
Really? Can we use Bungie's world domination strategy and slingshot ALL of the fanboys into the sun.
TimeSkipLuffy  +   565d ago
because the system should got its own RAM. Instead all those social features and so on take RAM away.
masterfox  +   565d ago
what 30 fps ?, the game looks bland and nothing yells Next gen, how in hell couldn't run at 60 ?, this is totally devs fault optimization ignorance.
Jag-T1000  +   565d ago
The PS4 can't do 60fps? O_O This is the PS4 were talking about right? Were's all the bashing or are we not allowed to bash the PS4?
ninjagoat  +   565d ago
This GEN is turning into a FAIL :/ dont mater if a game plays good at all its all about 1080p 60fps FML :/
OldDude  +   565d ago
Obviously Sony pushes 3rd parties on the resolution issue so they can claim that the PS4 can do 1080p whereas the X1 cannot. However its become pretty clear neither the PS4 nor the X1 can handle PC level effects and do 1080p/60. Hopefully even the Sony boys have to be waking up to the fact that the PS4 isn't the beast they think it is. This generation should have waited another year, they weren't ready. Its inexcusable that games cant even take advantage of the capabilities of a typical television set.
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Father__Merrin  +   565d ago
sorry pal but at a mass market price of £350 this is the best you can get. the machines are good and no doubt will produce tremendously good looking games

care to show me something looking as good as infamous ss on steam or gog lol and if you can let us know the cost of doing so, cheers
Destrania  +   565d ago
Trolls on this site are getting absolutely ridiculous. Don't like that this MotoGP game isn't 60fps when you believe it should be? Don't buy it then! Love how you all are stretching to bring down whatever you can to make you feel better about what you have. Pretty much any framerate is possible if your lower the assets enough or optimize well enough. 30fps btw has never made a game bad EVER, the actual game itself will do that if it is bad. So pathetic, smh. The hardware isn't a fail, you people are.
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D3ATH_DRIV3R_777  +   565d ago
It looks great, but i find that this we chose 30fps over 60fps because it saves them money as a nonsensical excuse! so what if they got 34 players on one screen at one time, bull%#?! man. They can get it to 60fps, but they just choose not to! not because of the hardware, it's because they choose to be cheap.
And no, the next gen consoles is not going to fail because devs decide to choose 30fps over 60fps, just a stupid saying just to make themselves feel better about what they have. wish ppl stop saying that! Ò_ó
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Destrania  +   565d ago
Pretty sure you're ridiculous.
Forn  +   565d ago

You changed your comment after Destrania's post, just letting people know.
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windblowsagain  +   565d ago
Poor engine. Lacking nextgen features.

Rendering 34 bikes is like rendering 12cars. 14 13

But I Motorbike Racing boring.

But on the subject of graphics. Poor.
yewles1  +   565d ago
*off topic*

Speaking of rendering 12 cars, but has DriveClub shown any footage of cars on track beyond 12?...
windblowsagain  +   565d ago
No but DC'S graphics destroy Moto14 by a mile.
hairy  +   565d ago
Until Microsoft can squeeze some more power out of that xbone, I can see most multi platform games being this way. it's rare a 3rd party developer is going to want to take the risk of pissing off some of their market,
mhunterjr  +   565d ago
Huh? This game isn't eve on xb1...
aragon  +   565d ago
Lol good point mr hunter quite funny if u say so loll loll lol , I dunno why xbone came up in here
annus  +   565d ago
Damn, back to the drawing board for more excuses.

Lazy devs, yeah, that's it!
Edvin1984  +   565d ago
Well I think the manufactures could maybe do a 3-4 system upgrade where the architecture is not change, but scales like a PC FPS remains locked at lets say 30 or 60 FPS but resolution goes up. I dunno spit balling any thoughts on this?
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Mattz  +   565d ago
Oh dear, no xb1 to hold the all/powering PS4 back either?!

So?! What happened?
Artista  +   565d ago
^_^ usually. . the Xbox One would be the excuse eheh.
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PrinceOfAllSaiyans  +   565d ago
If MGS5, Uncharted 4, and TLOU can run at 60FPS this game can too.
pornflakes  +   565d ago
Even as a Xbox fanboy i have to admit that its not the fault of the PS4s Hardware... its the devs fault.

Forza 5 can run in 1080p and 60 FPS in such a short dev time and this game could also run at this specs.

Would be better to make 900p and 60 FPS since you would need to have at least a 55 inch to see the difference.
Moncole  +   564d ago
Since you're a fanboy your opinion is invalid because every fanboys opinion invalid.
inf3cted1  +   565d ago
When xbone has below 1080p or 30fps, it's the consoles fault.

When ps4 has below 1080p or 30fps, it's the developers fault.
Artemidorus  +   564d ago
Pro PlayStation fans been like this for years they moan about anything non Sony and make excuses for anything negative towards Sony.

9 million clowns, must be a world record.
EverydayGuy  +   565d ago
Better hope gran turismo doesn't come out 1080p 60fps or people will call them lazy
Nicominoru  +   565d ago
Actually I have to agree, it's devs not trying at this point. There are games that are 1080p 60fps on the PS4 and there are others that will be in the future such as MGS V, Last of Us Remastered, The next Uncharted, Mortal Kombat X etc, etc. I think it has more to do with if a game was primarily focused on the PS4 from the beginning or if was being developed on PS3 first and during the development process the push to get it on current gen became a factor even if the game is cross/multiplatform is becoming a issue now too.

Personally I don't really care if a game is 30frames or 60 as long as it's fun, but when other developers are accomplishing great things with the same set of tools it's time to stop making excuses. Honestly I believe they just didn't choose to put fourth the effort, money and time into making it 60fps.

Not even a full year into Next Gen yet and Devs are already lazy as ever, over hyping their games, flat out lying about what they look and play like...delays every other week pretty disgusting.
Bytor  +   565d ago
Sony said there's different levels to their API you can use direct X but it will use more resources converting so maybe their just taking the easy way out.
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stefan771  +   564d ago
It seems the PS4 can't handle 60 fps on anything other than ports without downgrades
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This is very redundant!
bumnut  +   564d ago
All you guys bitching and arguing over this are missing the point. The game is shit!

Im off to light a candle for the masterpiece that was the THQ Moto GP series.
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