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Kinect Completely Ruins Need For Speed on Xbox One

Wired writes: "Need For Speed Rivals may not be constantly watching you (as far as we know), but it is definitely always listening to you. In theory, you’re supposed to be able to shout out certain commands to access the game’s special features without having to take your hands off the wheel. In practice, Rivals over-enthusiastically interprets background conversation as voice inputs, playing havoc with your race."

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Hatsune-Miku906d ago

kinect completely ruins xbox one. Imo.

I can't wait to be able to buy a xbox one without kinect. The kinect is pointless for me even though some features works ok but it adds extra cost to the xbox one and doesn't offer much.

Excalibur906d ago (Edited 906d ago )

Agreed, I'm still baffled why a company insists on not giving you an option and forces a unwanted peripheral on it's consumers at an additional $100.00.

iamnsuperman906d ago

Because they spent a fortune developing it (didn't Microsoft say the Kinect 2 is half the price of the One?). To ditch it/make it optional would be disastrous for that expensive peripheral. They were forced into this situation when the released the Kinect. It was a big investment for them

Excalibur906d ago

@iamnsuperman
I hear what you are saying but in the same token do you want a bunch of half hearted/tacked-on efforts ruining your games?

Beside that, just because it's there doesn't automatically guarantee that Devs will use it.

Eonjay906d ago

Because the first one had a relatively poor attach rate. When you give people the option, most said no thanks. This way they will definitely get the money out of you whether you want it or not. They have already made the choice for you. If you don't like it, you can take your business somewhere else. What are you complaining about? For another $59.99 you get the Fighter Within!

Kidmyst906d ago

This also falls along with 3D, sure it's cool but in the end I like 2D gaming VS 3D and camera features are neat to play with for a few min. but then it's off and down to some serious gaming. I dropped my XBONE preorder the last min. and feel strongly a Kinect free version will come out or be announced by the end of this Summer. I'll pick up a Xbone then.

Deividas906d ago

@iamnsuperman
Yea they did spend a fortune on it and that was a mistake on its own. Microsoft cares more about the Kinect than the consumer. The majority of xbox one owners would have rather have had a greater system as a whole than an extra piece that most prob will not use. So instead of spending all that money on something clearly most dont care for, should have used it on the Xbox One system itself or the first party titles.

gaffyh906d ago

I am 100% sure that there will be a kinectless Xbone SKU at some point. I have said it since the console was announced. It's a question of when, not if, especially considering they will never be able to be competitive on price otherwise

ipach906d ago (Edited 906d ago )

we can all blame the wii and our millions of grandmas and toddlers for going nuts over them wii sports. that game singlehandedly sent the entire gaming industry in a weird waggly twilight zone for the past 7 years... it was certainly a fun phenomenon at the time. but alas, we're still paying the price for those old bowling and boxing matches...

zeee905d ago (Edited 905d ago )

Kinect is perhaps the biggest reason why Xbox will lag behind PS4 and I am not even going to mention the crappy initial DRM policy, less powerful etc.

I CAN'T understand why ANYONE outside the US or rather the unsupported territories would purchase an Xbox ONE? They'll be paying for the hardware that will not work in their countries, or have voice commands work perfectly (because of different accents) yet, MS will FORCE them to pay for features and devices that won't function and not to mention a less powerful console.

AND... charge some more for XBL which is lagging faaarrr behind PSN Plus.

nukeitall905d ago

I'm still baffled why certain people refuse to acknowledge the value of Kinect. Maybe because it is usually the same people I see with an agenda....

That said, there are two ways to fix this:

a) turn off Kinect in the settings, before you start the game

b) make sure you calibrate the TV properly by turning up the TV volume so the system knows to tune out the game noise. With the tuning I can literally whisper to my Xbox One and it will hear it. F'in amazing.

Also, this is poor playtesting with EA, because I don't have this problems with other games. Just sayin!

Utalkin2me905d ago

@nukeitall

"I don't have this problems with other games. Just sayin!"

Dont just "say", go into to specifics of the reasons why and what your doing to make it superior to what EA is doing.

UnHoly_One905d ago

Because it isn't a peripheral. It's part of the console.

SilentNegotiator905d ago

"Because the first one had a relatively poor attach rate"

Kinect 1 sold 24 million. Even if you chop off a million or two from the people that bought it for PC use, that's not a "poor" attachment rate.

SilentNegotiator905d ago (Edited 905d ago )

@Nukeitall
"I'm still baffled why certain people refuse to acknowledge the value of Kinect. Maybe because it is usually the same people I see with an agenda.... "

And then there's people like you that TOOOOOTALLY don't have an agenda and want to disregard the opinions of people that don't want Kinect just because, right?

jacksons98905d ago

If anything Xbox One should cost less than PS4. I was pretty blown away when Sony announced $399

Excalibur905d ago (Edited 905d ago )

@SilentNegotiator

Yes Kinect did sell 24 million units but it's attach rate was abysmal.

Many sites tout the Dance Central 2 and 3 among the best Kinect games available, do you know how many units were sold world wide?

Dance Central 2 - 1.94 Million units.
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

Dance central 3 - 0.68, a little over a 1/2 million units

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

Plug in any Kinect game you wish and you will find it's attach rate severely lacking and it's popularity dropped off as the years went by as the games did worse and worse yet Microsoft still chose to push Kinect 2.0 on it's users.
I'm sorry but that is a very poor business choice.

SilentNegotiator905d ago (Edited 905d ago )

@Excalibur
I'm talking about Kinect's HARDWARE attach rate.

DC2 and DC3 sales exponentially faltered after DC1 sold 3 million because people QUICKLY got sick of the latest game fad. Now MS is betting on it to be the next Wii, even though the fad already passed. As a result of MS trying to salvage a dead fad (and Nintendo trying to recreate a mobile fad), the company that always focused on core gamers has exploded out of the gates with their hardware sales. MS beating the dead horse that is Kinect is hurting them.

edit: I guess we're both making the same point, really.

TheSaint905d ago

You're baffled as to why MS forces you to buy stuff, sorry but, really?

abzdine905d ago

money and also to spy on people. i know famboys will disagree with the second part(even the first one) but that's all what it's about.
Being anti-consumer is the reason why xbox will remain a garbage brand in my eyes.
Thank GOD Sony Nintendo exist to satisfy my gaming needs.

Tomden02905d ago

Because the kinect is a needed component for the xbox one and is so far advanced then it was for the 360...the system is in every way better than the ps4

Gigaguy777905d ago

@Superman
The Kinect is about 1/6th of the price of the Xbox One, about $50 to $60 to make

MajorMayhem70905d ago

You do have an option. Don't buy it and buy something else. No one placed a gun to my head to buy the X1. I bought it cause I wanted One, Kinect and all.

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Charybdis906d ago (Edited 906d ago )

This future sounds cool, they should put an off button I guess though. Way too easy to troll when playing with friends by 'accidently' mentioning words like look around map, or turn off.

Eonjay906d ago

Love your screen name!

malokevi906d ago

Yeah, I hate Kinect, and Xbox, and EA, and Microsoft, and adorable puppies crawling all over each other in a box with cute backwards letters on the side. Also life.

TXIDarkAvenger906d ago

Kinect only ruins Xbox One because they enforce it into the games when it isn't needed.

frostypants906d ago (Edited 906d ago )

But if they don't include it with every console, it will discourage developers from using it to add features you hate!

/sarcasm (but pretty much the backassword reasoning MS is applying here)

JodyCones905d ago

Build a better PC for the same price, waste of money.

BallsEye905d ago

Do you have XO? No? then shush. I was having similar approach but once I got XO in my living room, I've realised that kinect 2 is amazing piece of tech and it makes XO unique and gives it a next-gen feel. You're just another fanboy that got nothing to complain about.

GortJester905d ago

@BallsEye Totally agree with you. Ignorant haters are always going to hate something without trying it. I was totally against the Kinect after playing with the first one but after some extensive play with the new one, I really feel it is the evolution of the Guide Button. What unintelligent people don't understand is that in order for technology to get better and for developers to actually want to develop for something, people have got to own it or there is no point, hence it being bundled with every system. I'm getting pretty sick of people not listening to even a little reason in these forums. I understand not liking being forced to purchase something, but if you don't like it, don't buy a damn Xbox One then, stop looking at it, don't read the advertisements and shut the hell up about it. Buy the PS4, ignore the Xbox One and let us that have one, enjoy it.

Side Note: If it's causing issues in NFS, unplug the thing until they add a patch to turn it off from the menu. If they don't, unplug it while playing this game.

Jack_Reacher905d ago (Edited 905d ago )

So I like the way you all say just unplug the kinect. Which just proves that is not needed or wanted by many. Not when you add on the price it has cost to the console. It should have been an optional extra. I wonder how many would have bought an xbone without. My guess many more than would have. But alas microsoft took the choice out of your hand's. So much for consumer choice.

Oh and gemini.maybe when xbots stop slagging of ps4 then ps4 owners might do likewise. It works both ways. Enjoy your console.

mcstorm905d ago

What find funny is that people keep saying when Microsoft release a kinectless Xbox one they will buy one and the next line say all Microsoft ant is your money and don't support there console.

No one above is interested or thinking about getting an Xbox one and that's fine its there choice but I'm now getting bored of all this Kinect hate. Last gen it was all Kinect is crape has too much lag I don't want games where I have to stand up and not use a controller, the Kinect I hit and miss and dose not do what Ms said project natal said it could do.

Look at Kinect 2.0 and everything I can think of that Microsoft showed us could be done with project natal can now be done with Kinect 2.0.

I own BF4, Forza 5, KI and FIFA for my Xbox one and not one of these games have any issues because of Kinect.

For me the Xbox one offered more for my gaming needs then the PS4 as well as more on the multi media needs too so that is my reason I got a Xbox one over a PS4 and at this moment in time the Wii U and Xbox one are the two consoles that are filling my gaming needs.

Sarcasm905d ago

If they make a kinectless xbox one at $349 I'm buying it.

UnHoly_One905d ago

They aren't going to sell the XB1 without Kinect. Ever.

Veneno905d ago

Nope they won't. Microsoft if just going to have to spend another 3 billion marketing the hell out of it in order to sell. Looks like it's back to Oprah, Ellen, etc...

JodyCones905d ago

Waste of money just build a PC dude.

ramiuk1905d ago

i will get a xbone when the drop kinect in bundle.
its not good enough to be released still imo and i dont pay to test items.

its MS again thinking they know what consumer wants and like the always on rubbish they are WRONG.

specially in uk where xbone is half useless anyway(nearly all reveals are USA only)

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iamnsuperman906d ago

"How did this game make it through basic play testing"

You must be kidding. No game is tested any more. We do that for them

Semi-joking aside I am surprised they didn't put an option to turn it off in the option menu. Big oversight there

ziggurcat906d ago

acually, games are rigourously tested, devs just refuse to fix things (i'm a former QA & sony compliance tester from a prominent 3rd party QA house).

so never blame QA for any bug in a game because the chances are it was found, and reported to the devs.

ThatOneGuyThere906d ago

i may or may not have worked with you then. :-)

RegorL905d ago

Guess most play testing is done by a single tester. Even with others looking they instinctively will know to keep quiet.

Microsoft will need to key voice commands to players - good luck. (Will take extra cycles...)

BTW is PS4 controller headphone two way? Much easier to control who is talking if microphone is close to the individual player...

-Foxtrot906d ago

This is what I was afraid of with Kinect...forcing crap into a good game.

Geez...imagine what Halo 5 is going to be like, MS is going to make sure they use Kinect :|

Hopefully by then they will release a Kinectless bundle

mhunterjr906d ago

'In theory, you’re supposed to be able to shout out certain commands to access the game’s special features without having to take your hands off the wheel.'

Actually, that doesn't sound like 'crap', but actually would be useful in a game like this. Being able to set the in-game gps by voice, instead of fumbling through menus while driving at over 100mph, is a great idea.

It sounds like the execution was poor and could have been remedied with better programming.

MrPerfect813906d ago

Agreed, i have NFS for Xbox One and maybe have had something like this happen to me twice, i am up to level 13 so i have been doing some racing. It may actually be a command, i have to check but it would be nice to say "GPS Nearest Hideout" when you heat level is 6 and helicopters are on my ass...

frostypants906d ago

Part of the problem the article describes is imprecise vocal recognition by Kinect itself though. No amount of game programming will fix that.

mhunterjr906d ago (Edited 906d ago )

@frostypants no, what the article describe was issues with kinect integration in Rivals. If the problem was kinect itself then we'd see a bunch of articles about the xbox UI itself responding to commands that were never spoken.

The problem is a design one. They should have programmed a trigger word, one that the user must speak before the game starts listening for a command. Also, they should choose words that are distinct, or aren't particularly common in casual coversation.

Purely a design issue.

Ashby_JC905d ago

I haven't played rivals but nba2k14 uses voice for saying timeout etc. But the devs messed up in that the Kinect tries to hard.

You see a Mic pop up with a red x through it. It's annoying and I blame the devs 100%. Because other games don't have this problem.

Not having a option to turn off Kinect in game is a must!!!! In the least I wish all games let you disable portions of Kinect use.

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pyramidshead906d ago

Weird, lol. But it's kinect so I'm not surprised I guess.

DigitalRaptor905d ago

You'd think "Better with Kinect" would really be true to its name by now.

HammockGames906d ago

Keep repeating that and we'll have shades of Isaac Clarke.

Heh, heh

SlavisH2906d ago

If he did that there wouldn't be a article :P

notyobizhwispndmymny906d ago

I know right but then what would Maria post?

Ashby_JC905d ago

I don't have rivals but from the article there isn't a option to turn off Kinect in game.

That sucks because all the games I have you have the option to turn it off..in game.

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