Gameranx: "Gameranx takes a look at 16 of the best PC role-playing games of all time."
How am I supposed to take this list seriously, when they have Skyrim all the way down at 12? There's not a single game better, nevermind 11.
Skyrim doesn't even DESERVE to be on the list.
Dark Souls? seriously? the game was a frickin tragedy on PC at release, and even now it's only halfway decent because of mods. the game itself is amazing, but that was a horrible port.
1 - play morrowind 2 - I was more worried that I didn't see any Ultima :(
Neckbear said it perfectly. That series has quickly turned into a casual joke of an "rpg".
Elder scroll Morrowind is not on the list therefore this list is totally BOGUS. No Baldurs gate 2 No System Shock 2 wow just BOGUS
Except Baldurs gate 2 is #1.
list is pretty damn good Baldur's Gate II literally CRAPS on every other major rpg ever made Way better than any mass effect, elder scrolls, dragon age, better than any final fantasy, any fallout, any other rpg ever made next would be icewind dale series, then neverwinter nights, then the witcher 1 every one of those games as well destroys any mass effect/skyrim/whatever cookie cutter rpg! not that those games are bad, the are just paint by numbers, lead you by the nose the best elder scrolls game by far is morrowind, you can mod it and it looks way better than skyrim on xbox or ps3!
You forgot Planescape Torment.
agreed, I do love that game as well, but the humor and heavy dialog make it almost a category of its own, I almost don't consider planescape an rpg in a way, it is its own genre in a way but yes, planescape, imo, is better than neverwinter, though not quite bg2 level
I agree, it is a very very unique game and a stone cold classic. To me BG2 and Planescape are the pinnacle of Infinity Engine games.
1- Darksouls 2- The Witcher 2 3- Divinity II 4- Neverwinter Nights 5- Final Fantasy VIII 6- Baldur's Gate II 7- Diablo 2 8- Knights Of The Old Republic 9- Deus Ex 10- Mount & Blade: Warband 11- The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 12- Skyrim 13-MassEffect (the Original) ME2/3 are not RPG games
I like that you included Divinity 2. A lot of people really dislike that game but I really enjoyed it. Had a great sense of humour much like its predecessors.
Same here. Divinity 2 was fantastic. Truly a great sense of humor, good character progression and just an overall well told story. Truly a great roleplaying game.
Here we go... a top (insert number) list. One person's opinion becomes a heresy to the gospel of gaming, and everyone must pick up their pitchforks and burn the witch. Dramatic... I know... but some of you need to calm the ____ down. It's okay... you don't have to agree with the author's list. I don't. Hell, I don't even respect his opinion... but his list is his list.
How did you get Fallout New vegas higher on the list than Fallout3?
Because it's a game that actually knows what Fallout is about and realizes its potential fully, unlike 3?
Because its a better game and got way better RPG mechanics.
Guess I'm old school since the only game I'd have made after 1990 on the list is Baldurs Gate 2......
1-Planescape Torment 2-Deus Ex 3-Baldurs Gate 2 4-The Witcher 2 5-Dragon Age Origins 6-The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall 7-Diablo 2 8-Icewind Dale 2 9-Jade Empire 10-The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind 11-Beyond Divinity 12-Mass Effect 13-Titan Quest 14-Fallout 2 15-Knights of The Old Republic 16-Neverwinter Nights
i must be completely off because i never really got into like 13 of those games besides skyrim and darksouls. imo i always thought games like -valkarie profile -saga frontier -star ocean -Final fantasy -front mission -chrono cross -pokemon might of made the list.
None of which are on the pc....
o wow i browsed the page saw the games and didnt bother to read for once and this what happens oohh the pain...!
We all know that the best RPG out there is call of duty. Never seen such an immersive and complex rpg in my life. I mean the load outs, the fish, the dogs...is there anything those guys can't do? In terms of RPGs I think Diablo 2 is one of my favs and the classic fallout series. I also like path of exile:) and Agarest right now. I also really am enjoying Last Remenant. There is a lot about the list that I disagree with, especially putting Fallout NV before Fallout 3...which had a much better storyline imo. I did like Oblivion a lot I actually played it more than Skyrim. I think my Number 1 rpg of all time would have ot eb....Neverwinter Nights. I dunno what it was but I just liked it a lot. I use to play it and Dungeon Siege 1 a lot.
Do people have Neverwinter nights or what?
At least they got number one right baby :D
I got the original Fallout for free from GoG and while I can understand its significance in gaming history, I don't think it's aged well.
1)Planescape:Torment 2)Morrowind 3)Fallout:New Vegas 4)Witcher 2 5)Divinity 2
I still don't understand the praise for Mass Effect or Dragon Age. Mass Effect was more space opera shooter than RPG and the entire concept of choice was an illusion. It was entirely a point to point affair that really offered very little in the way of exploration or depth. Spending your time mining for checking out generic space stations does not make for an engaging side mission. I did enjoy the entire series but not enough to praise it or put it in a "Top" list. Dragon Age Origins had one of the worst stories I think I have ever encountered. Not once during the entire game was I ever invested in the quest I was actually on. There was no plot twists, no depth, and no character development. Everything was plainly laid out for you at the beginning of the game and rather than build on this overall plot it was a series of smaller racial based quests in each zone to keep the peace and gain their allegiance. Such a waste of a game.
My List--- 1. Planescape Torment (No reason required I guess) 2. Baldur's Gate 2 (For introducing what RPGs should have) 3. Neverwinter Nights 2:Mask of the Betrayer (Overall NWN2 was not that good but MOTB expansion had IMO best ever rpg story) 4. Final Fantasy VI (Best FF ever...Superb story,enchanting music,great character) 5. KOTOR1 (Star Wars with Bioware polish..enough) 6. Dragon Age Origins (For resurrecting classic rpg,spell effect,huge engaging world and lore) 7. Fallout New Vegas (Choices were never this difficult.Even the sidequests were masterpieces of RPG writing) 8. Witcher (For introducing Gray Area RPG...Never really lets you realize whether you are right or wrong) 9. Mass Effect (Space opera with so much new lore...Emotional journey) 10. Shadowrun Genesis Version (A boyhood favorite..Hacking through matrix were way ahead of times)
Diablo 2 is still my favorite. I spent way too many hours on that game
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