Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime discusses the reason for the amount of storage space in the Wii U.
Seriously, the original xbox had nearly that much memory, they wonder why no one is buying their terrible system, it is things like that. No games, poor decisions and outdated tech. I'm sorry but If you are charging next gen price you better give me a next gen product. needs at least 200gb.
That doesn't explain why the console was selling near Wii numbers for the first 3 months. In actuality, the only reason why the Wii U is in such a bad state is due to the 6 month long drought of games that followed.
I hope you know, when a console launches they usually sell out for a few months because the loyal fan base (which comes from us guys) buys it. Now after than is where the sales start to get interesting as the people who are initial on the fence decide if they want one or not (which goes on through out the life of the system) That loyal fan base buys it regardless (also worth noting it was the only next generation console on the market so it should sell well for those early months. It also hasn't been selling well since the announcement of new systems)
@iamsuperman See my reply to the other guy. You're right, but that it's stems deeper than just having a loyal fanbase.
this guy is full of s*** Wii U is expensive enough i dont see where it's a good value for consumers. And if external HDD are that cheap then make a Digital Wii U bundle with a big HDD for free. PR bullshit once more..
Game drought is not the reason. Even if it had games it would still have lackluster sales and only slightly better than this. Nintendo didn't have a gimmick this generation to sell. Whether it has games or not it's going the way of the Nintendo 64 or Gamecube. The gamers didn't fall for the gimmick this time, and there's nothing Nintendo can do about the WiiU.
It has little to do with games IMO. The succes of the Wii came from the price, which the Wii U isnt matching. It came from the gimmick of motion controls, which people are over. I'm not talking about the gaming community, i'm talking about the parents who bought a Wii to get fit and keep the kids happy and play games with the family. Either they're happy with the Wii and dont need an upgrade, or they got burned last time, and barely ended up using the Wii so are not going to make the same mistake. The Wii was a fluke, the friendly cheap nature of the wii made it seem simple and fun, but the motion control made it stand out at the time. It truly was a box for everyone (except core gamers).
First MONTH not 3 months month...and then it nosedived after that month....And it's never going to sell Wii numbers the soccer mom and nana have moved on and the hip cool fad faded eventually, they aren't going to ever comeback, they just wanted to exercise on the Intendo fit and wrist waggle some bowling
idk i think reggie's statement is nonsense. the ps4 is doing 500GB and has specs that are 10 times better than the WiiU and its releasing at only $50 more than the original WiiU price. and the average consumer has no idea that you can use an external hard drive with the WiiU but like ps3 before and xbox one now...everyone "fails to see the value" of an overpriced machine
Reggie is full of it. Based on consumer pricing a 32GB SD is $20, you can buy 120GB HDD for $30. This is one of the things holding the Wii U back. Was that $10 difference really killing you Nintendo? They need 2014 to come so they can release the games people actually want (Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Bayonetta, Xeno?, etc...), Put a real HDD into the console so people can actually download the digital games like Zelda Wind Waker HD and more, and finally they need to get their OS together so load will be cut in half again and get their online network together for streamlined multiplayer experiences and so games that are multiplatform keep their multiplayer component.
If the wiiu space is such a problem then get a xone of ps4... yet you will get a wiiu to play Nintendo stuff.
It sold great for the first 3 months because of gullible fans who bought it because they love Nintendo and wanted to own it because Nintendo made it and that they knew, INEVITABLY, that that system will surely have its own Zelda/Mario games and that they'd wait it out. So it sold well....to the most hardcore of fans, but even so, I find it unlikely that they'd be using the system a lot, rather that the system is laying there waiting to be exploited, whenever Nintendo decides to straighten their fucking act.
Tve original Xbox had the same capacity as the basic Wii U model. With an external HDD there's no problem, but it would be wise by Nintendo to release a model with more space in it. Say, 250gb.
Which they have already said is NOT happening....They don't care if your too lazy to plug in an external HDD
@Deadpoolio It's not too lazy, Nintendo was too cheap to add one, and not it's another expense to the gamer since they have to buy a HDD to download games, putting the Wii U price right back up there with the PS4.
Funny.. shave of a few dollars from the PS4 by excluding PS4 EYE and fans swoon about Sony empowering me.. as a consumer with choice.. !!*NOT A REASONABLE LOGIC FOR NINTENDO THOUGH*!? I am confident Sony will not manage to drop the price on their console by the time Ninty lowers the price of a Wii U bundle again in the coming year...
The bottom line of this gamer's Console War is as such..playing B02 for drinks with your friends on the Gamepad and Pro Controller at my house results in two things. You are having a good time, And.. you will like Wii U.
I'd rather have a console with outdated tech than a console with outdated features i.e. no backwards compatibility, no free online and no option for downloading games onto an external harddrive.
That actually makes no sense. If you're referring to the PS4 you can upgrade the PS4's harddrive internally with a bigger capacity one that is not even a proprietary drive which makes upgrading it cheap. This eliminates the need for an external harddrive. Backwards compatibility is understandable since the hardware is so different from the PS3. It would also make the PS4 much more expensive to produce. Backwards compatibility will be addressed through gaikai in the end. edit: you know you can defend Nintendo without being offensive. I find it tasteless using mudslinging to make an argument. It's what politicians use to diss their competition.
Are you going to get a next gen console too or are you just sticking with Wii U?
Free online? Have there been any first party Wii U games released so far with a flushed out online mode?
so u say they should have gone with the cell n made it hard for the developers again just For your backward compatibility option.... its great they have changed, you can expect bc with ps5 atleast now..
@SheenuTheLegend "so u say they should have gone with the cell n made it hard for the developers again just For your backward compatibility option.... its great they have changed, you can expect bc with ps5 atleast now.." Well then, how do you explain the XB1's lack of BC? I don't believe that the XB360 used the cell.
It reads external hdds and up to 3TB
External hdds have extremely slow data transfer rates compared to an internal SATA drive. Not a good alternative at all.
@Angeljuice Not true my JTAG runs of an EXT HDD, and the games load just as fast as it would if it were internal, so thats kinda false...
Look Reggie is right,and not everyone wants digital copys of games anyway so it's right not to charge consumers with that it's the right decision end of,ps4 xbox1 making you pay an extra $50 for a big HDD ?? when there are faster bigger HDD's out there at bargain prices. With ps4 you have gddr5 which is expensive,on wiiu you have tons of edram on everything even cache which is even more expensive,ps4 has a cheaper gpu,wiiu's custom E6760 gpgpu will be more expensive because it's custom not off the shelf,it all evens out,but ps4 is costing $50 more because of a big-ish HDD when not everyone will use it makes no sense,everything on wiiu is integral to your experience,also Nintendo were loosing $50 on every console now even more,so in the end Nintendo are giving you $50+ to buy your own HDD,and throwing wind waker HD in as well,i own a 1TB HDD cost £50....
That's why there are multiple SKU's of consoles. Generally the only difference are features like more USB slots, more media slots, or a larger HDD. If you don't want to pay more those features than buy the entry priced console, but for gamers who have a digital library of games (and with GamCube games likely coming to Nintendo eShop) you're going to need a HDD, and Nintendo should offer the option.
Gives you options when it comes to hdd space to make the console chesper but zero options for the tablet controller that is clearly driving up the price... Makes no sense
Oh also the GAMEPAD is integral to the dual screen experience and i love it so much i wouldn't even consider a single screen console that's my take on it,the browsing is 2 screens and watching Dynamo magiciam impossible or Cyril takayama on the tv in HD whilst browsing on facebook and what have you on the GAMEPAD is NEXTGEN multimedia only found on wiiu,the GAMEPAD is absolutely needed as its part of the experience also i couldn't live without offtvplay on games like COD........ps4 doesn't need a big HDD when you can get 1TB HDD's for like $75 ?????
Next-gen price? PS3 took HOW long to leave the $300 mark? And besides - that thing is still selling at $250 - which is $50 less than the soon-to-be-established Wii U price. I think Nintendo made a decent choice not putting a plethora of storage on this thing. Reason being - external hard drives exist. And they don't just exist - they're cheap. You can get a 1TB external HDD for about $70. That's $10 more than the average game. If you can't shell out $70 for something what can store a massive amount of full-retail games, demos, and save data ~ then you need to re-think your strategy. It makes no sense to increase the price of something where there are cheaper, more efficient solutions. And I don't even think the Wii U's on-board storage is physical, no? So shouldn't that be more expensive? As for "no games" It's had a drought for half the year - but that's been turning around from since last month. Pikmin 3 started the wave. I won't repeat the list, because by now people should know that the Wii U DOES have games - and a good chunk of em.
Ignorance is bliss! What helped Microsoft lose four billion dollars on the original Xbox was the hard drive! It cost seventy dollars throughout the whole life span of of the console to produce it! In the console biz the price to produce parts for a console hopefully will go down so you can make a bit more profit. Not so with the original Xbox's hard drive. Do you own a Wii U? I doubt it. Most people that own a Wii U like it. Some don't. What Nintendo has done is allow Wii U owners to use the amount of space the gamer sees fit. Wether it be two gigs or five hundred. Same goes for head sets. My pair of ear buds cost me eight bucks a friend of mine has a headset that cost him a hundred bucks. If you don't like the Wii U that's fine but why come to the Wii U side of n4g? We don't need you or your kind to rain on our parade! Later troll!
every system sells well at launch. the diehard fans buy at launch. they would buy regardless. If the system was known to spout fire they would still buy it. Once they've bought it then it is up to those who aren't nintendo fanboys sony fanboys etc to purchase the system. This accounts for a good 80% of the total sales of a system. Only fanboys have looked at the WiiU and wanted it. So far the general public is saying pretty much what I said above 1 no games 2 outdated technology (hell even developers have laughed at the prospect of working on their system Unreal Engine 4) 3 lack of memory. 32 gb totally hinders the system and drives off hardcore gamers which are moving towards digital purchases. This is a trend that is obvious, and Nintendo is making a huge mistake by putting a roadblock to the hardcore gamers and their content
"every system sells well at launch." Nope. From Launch to Jan. 2013, Wii U sold a over a million more consoles than the PS3 and 360. While Wii U did sell near Wii level of sales, the Wii did suffer shortages. This doesn't say anything more than just the Wii having a higher demand. By January 2013, the Wii U sold 4.86mil pieces of software. To compare, in the same time-frame the Wii sold 9.45mil, X360 sold 3.04mil, and PS3 sold 2.29mil. It wasn't stellar like the Wii, but it wasn't terrible either. So no, you're wrong. And about outdated tech, you can continue to ignore the list of developers that say otherwise. UE4 also is able to run on Wii U. Epic just won't be porting it at the moment. Among the many other arguments for Wii U not having outdated tech, there are also games on the Wii U that use PC assets. Many of the upcoming games for Wii U are also outputting 1080p 60FPS. But believe what you will. We won't know how well Wii U can run the 2014 next-generation games until developers decide to port their games to the Wii U (depends on sales). I don't currently have any opinions on the lack of memory argument.
Back then, the 360 and ps3 were way more expensive and not many people had hd tvs, also he 360 ps3 launch titles were way worse than what the wii u has to offer (not saying wii u has good games atm except maybe for pikmin) so yeah
You're trying real hard to not admit that the Wii U actually does have a good line up and existing library of games.
The line up is good, but the existing library isn't that great. Here are exclusives that might be worth purchasing: New Super Mario Bros U Nintendo Land ZombiU Lego City Undercover Game & Wario New Super Luigi U Pikmin 3 The Wonderful 101 That's it. None of those games scream, "Gotta buy a Wii U!" If you want to play Super Mario, get a Wii or even a 3DS, or a DS. They all look and seem to play pretty similar to me. Nintendo Land, just another game to bundle with the console like Wii Sports, when you've played the games, there's really no reason to put the disc in the console. ZombiU, a game to show off the use of the Gamepad... Lego City Undercover, something I want to get, but Lego games aren't system sellers. Game & Wario... Get WariorWare: Touched! for DS, it will have a lot more content and will last you a lot longer... New Super Luigi U, if you have played Mario, you will most likely have played this game as well... Pikmin 3, can't comment on this game. The Wonderful 101, looks good, I would play it, but it's not a game I would go out and buy a console for. We need Zelda, Smash Bros., Super Mario Galaxy, etc. The line up definitely looks good, but they should of waited like a year or 2 before launching, this way they would of had a lot more games to release with the console itself. All the good games are being released next year...
I can see that. It's the same for me with ps4 and xb1. Everyone is super hyped. But when I see the games all I think is meh... Another shooter another racing game, nothing worth buying a system. I bought the wii u for the gameplay and it's unique gamepad knowing that more games will come later. But I'm in a foreign country right now no TV in my apartment but I can still play my games. That is amazing and only possible with wii u. Was already worth it. @ storage. I prefer it the way it is. I already had an external drive around, didn't need one built in that makes the system bigger and more expensive. Where is the problem? You can install a terabyte hard drive if you want to.
@cloud I'm the same, well the only game I was interested in on the Wii U which was being released within the launch window was Monster Hunter. Other games were being released in 2014... I am looking forward to the upcoming games on the Wii U. I am also interested in what the X1 and PS4 has to offer, but even some of the multiplatforms that they are getting aren't being released on the Wii U, like Battlefield 4, NFS Rivals, The Crew, Destiny, Dragon Age, Dying Light, TES Online, The Evil Within, Plants VS Zombies: Garden Warfare, Thief, Rainbow 6: Patriots, The Division, Wolfenstein, Cyberpunk 2077, The Witcher 3, Below, FFXV, KH3, Mad Max, MGSV: The Phantom Pain, Minecraft, SW Battlefront, Titanfall, and probably some others. That's a lot of games to miss out on and 99% of them look amazing.
There has literally been 1 game that used PC assets so we need to quit trying to talk like it's a matter of fact and every game uses that, and it was need for speed not exactly a taxing game... And Yes the Wii U tech is outdated. It is exactly what Nintendo should have released in 2007 it's not more powerful that the 360 especially not the PS3 and it is significantly weaker than what is coming in 2 months. It will then be getting 0 3rd party games when developers get tired of watering down games to run...The Wii U also is NOT running 1080p 60fps not 1 game does that currently, not even Nintendo's own games it has only ran 720p
That's fine and dandy I really understand the reasoning, but damn Nintendo at least allow developers to give the consumer the option to partially install or fully install full games or texture packs on an external hard-drive. I really wanted to get Splinter Cell on Wii U and probably will one day get it, but what stopped me from doing so was two reasons. One, the load times between the Paladin and the main missions were over a minute long each time and two, the Wii U version did NOT have a texture pack which also leaves textures looking pretty flat on certain areas. The rest was better in most ways including the inventory and drone on the Gamepad with V-Sync engaged at all times and native 720p resolution. The two issues mentioned above could've been easily rectified had they included a texture pack to install for texture purposes or at least partially or fully install the game to decrease load times. I've played the game and I honestly could overlook the texture differences as they are barely noticeable due to the fact that the Wii U version has a much more crisp look and is clearer, thanks to the resolution, with absolutely no screen-tearing, compared to the blurry screen-tearing PS3/360 versions. I got the PS3 version used, will beat it, take it back and get the Wii U version later on when it's on sale. Might as well get my trophies while I got it...
So basically his answer is if you like digital downloads than go buy more external memory. Lol thats pretty funny.
Lol yep, pretty much. Makes sense though at least to me. We're already only paying $299.99 for the Wii U 32GB. If you don't already have an external hard drive laying around your house, you can pick up a 1-2.5 TB hard drive for at least $70 and that would cover you for the entire generation. You end up spending less than you normally would if you went with another next-gen console.
Minus the better gaming system.
or you can get a 500 gig PS3 for that much. sure the harware is better but with 500 gigs an Playstation Plus you get wayyyy moe value for your money. I think $249 will be that sweet spot for the Wii U.
Defending Nintendo's stupid decision. Check. Making poor analogies. Check. Poor understanding of the situation. Check. Rejecting anything that contradicts your view. Check. Fanboy confirmed.
Not as funny as sony's answer to it. PS4 doesn't support game downloads on an external harddrive are you serious??
With an internal HDD you can upgrade to whatever size, what need is there? Obviously, the Wii U and XB1 MUST support game saves to externals, otherwise the games you can have are rather limited(extremely, in the case of the Wii U). And allowing for external HDD games has its own problems. Two main ones. 1. Convenience. Don't care what you say, it's not convenient to need a secondary device to play the games you want on your console. Especially when that requirement is due to the memory being forcibly limited by the manufacturer. 2. Piracy. There's no other way around it: allowing for an external device to contain game data means it's far more likely to be hacked and pirated. Far easier to do that with an external than an internal. By the way, Sony's answer to built-in storage is: as much as you want. Don't see what's funny about that. Troll harder.
3) External hdds have terrible data transfer rates and are nor a good idea for game installs AT ALL. Just a poor compromise.
PSSSSSST Neither will One80......Of course the weaker system allows it...It also doesn't allow it to be read by anything else after that....
bought a Wii U basic set at launch. I preferred the white color. Got a 1TB external western digital harddrive for about 70 dollars. and an additional controller for $40. MY over-all cost was about $450 after tax. I love my wii u and i cannot complain.
PS4 is $400 with 500 GBs and much better graphics 5 FREE 2 PLAY games including a FREE 2 PLAY MMO.
Free to play? did you forget the PSN subscription fee? it's $60 more :)
And online that costs money. Trust me, the Wii U is the cheaper alternative.
@WPX - F2P is not behind a paywall on ps4. They are free games and they are free to play online.
Yeah considering how big the games are going to be on the PS4 and they will no doubt all need some kind of install. That 500gb hard drive is not going to look so huge once once you've shoved a few 25gb+ games on it.
" Yeah considering how big the games are going to be on the PS4 and they will no doubt all need some kind of install." correct me if I am wrong, but ps4 games will be on bluray and play straight off the disk if you want. You wont need to install anything if you don't want to, unless you are buying digital copies of games.
Ok and? The wii u is out now.. and i got mine day one.. as far as I am concerned the graphics are good enough.. If you played Xenoblade then you will even know that the original wii was a capable system. So as far as graphics go the wii u is more then enough.. While not as powerful as ps4 it will have some cool games.. As it stands Nintendo has the best lineup for this year and next.. sorry but true.. Bayonetta and Wonderful 101 take the cake.. Looking forward to KillZone but at the end of the day it is just another high budget shooter..
"and much better graphics" What are you 5 years old? LOL
I see no difference in graphics except at the 1min 22 mark 4 player co-op online in an open world with those graphics wow show me a ps4 game open world this nice... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Lol at the whiners. You can get a damn 500GB external hard drive for $50 or less
10 +10=55! .....yeah, try and beat that buddy. :p
because its the cheapest option. And they want to make money on selling more harddrive space.
Maybe, but as far as I know Nintendo doesn't sell hardrives. The fact that you can use third party drives also shows that they're not really trying to capitalize on it. just didn't include it.
yeah good point. but i still think the smaller harddrive size is just to cut their costs.
got no problem with my 32 gig system downloaded a few titles, if i ever need more space its as simple as buying a 50$ 1tb external hd. with the price drop thats 350$ for a wii u a game and more space then the next gen system... yet still cheaper i think the values there. Sonydrones just blind to the hate an insist that every decision nintendo makes is a bad one lol
Exactly, the system plus a 500 gig to 1 terabyte hard drive is still $50 cheaper.
You might be prepared to do that, but 99% of the regular gaming public, the people who sit and play games a few hours here and there, aren't going to want to go out and buy peripherals and have more things plugged in just to get basic functionality - it's against everything consoles, especially Nintendo ones, are all about - just turn it on & play your game. If there's a problem here, it's not "sonydrones" thinking every decision Nintendo makes is a bad one, but Nintendo fans being unwilling to admit there might have been some poor decisions made by Nintendo. @ R00bot - Wii U & an external HDD being $50 cheaper than a ps4... you really think that's a good proposition for people looking to buy a new console? I wouldn't like to have to try to sell that to someone.
"but Nintendo fans being unwilling to admit there might have been some poor decisions made by Nintendo. " Eh just because one thinks it's a poor decision doesn't mean it is a poor decision. For all I know the price would have been higher if they included a hard drive. In my case I have plenty of Hard Drives lying around or SD cards for that matter. It's actually in my favor. So no, personally I don't think they made a poor decision. We don't even know how much people actually download. And those who do it a lot probably already have their solution ready.
@ChickeyCantor Look at the bigger picture, it's not just this issue and this issue is not just about downloads. Developers work to basic system specs - look at Blacklist, it doesn't install masses of stuff to the console vs the ps360 versions and has level loading times a minute longer than the 6 or 7 year old hardware versions. It's not just about digital downloads. You want developers to create games and the best versions of games for your platform you give them the platform that makes this simple - Sony learned that the hard way.