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Submitted by COrkibi 464d ago | opinion piece

Did Microsoft win GamesCom 2013?

GamrMag's Christian Orkibi discusses GamesCom 2013.

"So GamesCom 2013 has come and gone and while the show floors may still be busy, the major conferences have been cleaned away. So what’s the verdict, which company had the best showing, who made a mess of the floor, and who ultimately…won the show? In my opinion, that answer is quite clear." (Gamescom 2013, Microsoft, PS Vita, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

ape007  +   464d ago
nextgen stuff,(ryse, titanfall, online Cloud) MS wins

overall stuff (curren gen+handheld+indie games shown), sony wins
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ShugaCane  +   464d ago
That's a weird point of view lol. If Sony didn't win nextgen stuff, how did it overall won. Anyway I agree that Sony won the show. MS did right but I'm so not interested in Kinect or FIFA so I'm gonna stick to Sony and PSV indie games, Shadow of the Beast, the LBP hub, Remote play etc.. Still prefer what the PS4 has to offer. Much more.
ape007  +   464d ago
anyways the show is only the tip of the iceberg, almost showed nothing, both companies have a lot happening back stage in the dark :D
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Skips  +   464d ago
^ Sony's gonna have a conference a week before TGS (And I doubt it's to show off more indies), and a they're also going to host a Keynote AT TGS.

Not sure what MS is gonna do...
B-radical  +   464d ago
I personally dont care for indies games at all the fact MS talked about there indie program was cool tho
4Sh0w  +   464d ago
Yeah I like indie support but frankly I buy a console for great games from experienced studios, it doesn't have to be AAA but I dont want to play games that a 5yr old smartphone can run, if so why buy a home console? Indie games for me are a sideshow like xbla titles its just a given, nice to have like TV, features, apps, they are distant secondary selling points but at a gaming conference I expect to see the big guns. Thats why I thought micro had the best gamescom.
golding89  +   464d ago
Lol.

Not sure what you mean by that statement ape007.. contradicting yourself.
ape007  +   464d ago
no i mean, overall, handheld, indie games shown, release date

if u want nextgen stuff, then ms was better, if you are not into nextgen that much yes, sony wins

the show showed nothing still

it's not something decisive at all
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mewhy32  +   464d ago
I'll play titanfall and ryse on my pc (not true exclusives) and the "Cloud" is not unique to micro$oft LOL, and so many 180's that gamers are getting dizzy trying to keep up. "fail"

Sony releases in 32 countries, shows "TRUE" exclusives, better price, real exclusives, indie friendly....yeah Sony definitely won it all. Hands down.
andibandit  +   464d ago
shows "TRUE INDIE" exclusives

, corrected that for you, no need to thank me.
IHassounah  +   464d ago
Ryse isn't on PC
Gimmemorebubblez  +   464d ago
@andibandit

ReSPAWN is an Indie studio because they own the Titanfall IP and they themselves are not owned by MS or EA.....so whats wrong with Indies. Indies doesn't mean a garage of 1-10 people working on a game...all it means is that the studio is independent of a publicly traded company.
wicked  +   464d ago
Sony releases in 2 countries then in another 30 2 weeks later, corrected that also.
Muerte2494  +   464d ago
Gakai have real servers not virtual ones. They have a Guineas World Record showing this. Virtual Server aren't the same thing. They aren't as stable as physical servers. While they are cheaper than physical servers, they are more prone to crashes.
IHassounah  +   464d ago
Microsoft confirmed that they'll have 300000 physical dedicated servers
BABYLEG  +   464d ago
I have to wonder how the 2 weaker consoles look more next Gen and play like next Gen consoles.. But the stronger system is technically just a Ram upgrade. Did anyone see the user Interface on ps4? For a second I though he was digging too much.. Something that I could find in 3 seconds by saying Xbox Bing...

guy below me mentions the mud that is driveclub, but not the gloss that is Forza 5.. Dam shame
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windblowsagain  +   464d ago
Titanfall does not look nextgen. Source engine.
Ryse looks good, but slow and abit boring.

vs.

KILLZONE SHADOWFALL.
INFAMOUS SECOND SON
DRIVECLUB.

True nextgen looking games.
ape007  +   464d ago
Titanfall looks better (gameplay, design, novelty wise and replay value wise) than all those 3 games combined, plus the gfx shown were freaking awesome

im a FPS vetran who played almost every fps game in the book, titanfall is the next big thing, something that KZ totally failed to deliver with KZ2 in 2009

not anything against KZ, i'll buy shadown fall but it's not a class A FPS game, more like B

just compare the KZ multiplayer trailer shown yesterday with the CoD ghosts trailer, ghosts look 10 times better in everything (except gfx) let alone comparing it to TITANFALL
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Skips  +   464d ago
"Titanfall imo looks better (gameplay, design, novelty wise and replay value wise) than all those 3 games combined"

If you're in to COD gameplay I guess. XD

"plus the gfx shown were freaking awesome"

Not sure how looking about as good as COD Ghosts means "gfx = freaking awesome". lol

Titanfall looks incredibly bland as a "next gen" title.

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
vs.
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...
http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

You can't get any closer at looking similar than that. lol If it wasn't for the mechs, Titanfall would look about as bland as Ghosts gameplay and graphics wise...

"something that KZ totally failed to deliver with KZ2 in 2009"

LMFAO!!!! Just stop right there. XD
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Bennibop  +   464d ago
Its funny how MS fans are jumping on Titanfall to be the next big thing, I just dont see it. The graphics look ok but nothing amazing and the gameplay was hardly new and original. Was not that fussed about KZ but now I have seen the multiplayer and its ability to create you own game rules I cant wait but I am under no illusion its not PS4's killer app, that will prob be naughty dogs next title.
Rainstorm81  +   464d ago
Sorry Skips...Titanfall looks badass

http://youtu.be/ov8JeZ4uiJo
Muerte2494  +   464d ago
@APe007, @Rainstorm81

I don't think anyone is doubting the gameplay of TitanFall. It looks wonderful in motion and it runs at a brilliant 60fps. I hope TitanFall does well because it would be retribution for the ex Infinity Ward guys. With that said, these are just modified versions of John Carmack's Doom 3 engine. His engine prioritizes frames per second over textures. He has built another one but i think it's exclusive to ID software (RAGE-mega textures).

For you people who say killzone 2 failed, you clearly have never played it. That game had a dedicated following. Dynamic mode changes on the fly is a Killzone2 Original (Warzone). Killzone3 left a sour taste in people's mouth because it went after COD lovers. I hope they'll have brutal headshots like Last of US.
Bigpappy  +   464d ago
I would not base it solely on presentation. The show is still going on. It is up to press reports and the reactions from those reports.
Rainstorm81  +   464d ago
ryse titanfall and **cloud** were all at E3....isnt that the complaint about Sony showing Killzone, Infamous, Drive Club and Knack?

What about Sony's next gen features like in the beginning Yoshida was watching a streaming video of KZ shadow fall then instantly joined into the match...Or the Vita/PS4 remote play feature on AC4.

Sony did show us a ton of indie games but even many of those look very appealing...Rime, Rapture, Shadow of the Beast...Even the vita got alot of love and Masasaki Baby looks great as well...Add in Price Drops and a PS4 release date........ yea sony wins
MasterCornholio  +   464d ago
"streaming video of KZ shadow fall then instantly joined into the match"

OMG thats so cool.
Rainstorm81  +   464d ago
Heres a clear version of that PS4 UI vid

http://youtu.be/EaPoLJyDZmM
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-Superman-  +   464d ago
Only new stuff from Microsft we got is Fifa 14, but again, its only game bundle and im not intersted in Fifa 14.
Sony how ever showed a lot indie games which some of those looked interesting.
PsnGammer21  +   464d ago
Ms didn't win jack shit man all it showed was same stuff and u get a 500 dollar game with a brick that when u get home all the drm stuff will be back on xD
darkride66  +   464d ago
I'll say it again, there is no comparison between the two Gamescon events. I can't believe that I'm hearing so many gaming sites claiming MS somehow pulled ahead with their non-event.

Let's recap the highlights.

MS hosted a press event from some backroom somewhere. They showed a trailer for a new Fable, when the previous entry didn't really set the world on fire. Anyone surprised a new Fable is down the line somewhere? They unveiled a free copy of Fifa, only for those who preorder, only in 7 of the 13 launch countries. No launch date. 23 launch titles.

Sony's event. Reaffirmed their commitment to the PS3, LBP Hub for free, massive Vita price cut and support, Vita remote play shown off with PS4, a new, $199 PS3, new PS4 features like easy, custom soundtracks unveiled, a raft of new games, firm dates and 32 launch countries, look at the PS4 OS, Gameplay from some of the most anticipated titles, Minecraft, Twitch, PSN+ details like PS3 owners receiving massive discounts when opting to pick up PS4 versions of titles. One million already preordered. 180 games in development for the PS4. 33 launch titles unveiled for 2013 versus MS's 23.

How on earth are the two events even being compared?
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trywizardo  +   464d ago
current gen , MS wins 360
next gen , ms wins a console for core gamers and awesome games lineup
PS3 sucked this gen most of multi games looks better on 360 and exclusives PS3 just have uncharted series and LOU those are the good ones and there are GOW3 only those :)
handheld vita sucks and still sucks so they are trying to make it more popular with connecting it with home consoles lmao
PS4 is for indies that's it
dmitrijs88  +   464d ago
I see you are serious. NOT.
NYC_Gamer  +   464d ago
I can't pick a winner since every conference lacked huge software announcements
shivvy24  +   464d ago
yep i agree, but a few of the indie titles sony announced looked amazing especially RIME
Rainstorm81  +   464d ago
Rime's art style reminds me of The Mark of Kri on PS2...i cant wait to see more on that game
shivvy24  +   464d ago
it reminds me of something team ico would make
Dagobert  +   464d ago
Nope. They didn't.
Ksar  +   464d ago
That's pretty obvious they win Gamescom. Sony made a poor conference.
Xsilver  +   464d ago
having a conference and not having a conference.could you tell me when ur xbox releases i kinda didn't hear it, Sony won u must be delusional. makes sense you support MS that literally tried to stop you from owning ur own games.
DonFreezer  +   464d ago
Damn right.Sony mentioning the words debut on ps4 first and all the timed exclusive shit broke them apart.
dmitrijs88  +   464d ago
and the famous Ksar the king of Xbots posts his opinion and once again gets shitload of disagrees.
gamertk421  +   464d ago
Call of Duty is Activision, not EA.
stage88  +   464d ago
If by win you mean lose, then yes.
RandomDude655  +   464d ago
No
CRAIG667  +   464d ago
You know what, no one won or lost apart from gamers, and as a gamer I say everyone won, next gen will be great regardless of what your preferred system is.
Me - both.
vividi  +   464d ago
Don't think so, but I respect different opinions
Bennibop  +   464d ago
They didnt not by a longshot. Sony seem to be casually anouncing game after game after game and we still have not seen what MM and Naughty dog are up to. I fear microsoft will not have much on offer release wise come the new year.
Sadist3  +   464d ago
Sony announced too many indie games. I'm buying next gen systems, I want to see next gen games. I don't care too much for casual ipad like games. Sorry, I'm a hardcore gamer, I want to see games like Ryse, Battlefield and infamous...not some game called Flower or freaking Octodad.
Bennibop  +   464d ago
Flower is amazing, if you havent tried it give the PS3 version a whirl.
solidworm  +   464d ago
Hardcore ? Looking at the games you mentioned your confusing hardcore with casual mainstream gamer.
LoveSpuds  +   464d ago
You are far, far, FAR from a hardcore gamer if you are discounting the indie scene.

I love good games full stop. Some of the most fun I have had over the last year was playing Mark of the Ninja on my PC and Hotline Miami, Limbo and Guacamelee on my VITA/PS3.

Combined with the awesomeness that is Battle Field 3 on my PC, The Last Of Us and Ni No Kuni on my PS3 I think that it is this kind of variety that denotes a keen gamer (hardcore gamer sounds kinda stupid to me).
LoveOfTheGame  +   464d ago
I think the two comments above me have no idea what a hardcore gamer is.

The hardcore gamer is the person who plays the mainstream COD, Madden, FIFA. They are the ones who yell at the T.V. and throw their controller.

@solidworm
Ryse and Infamous are very casual mainstream, since one has never even been released and the other wasn't the most popular of titles./s

@LoveSpuds
Indie is nowhere near the hardcore player scene as hardcore players thrive for competitive games and action. I do agree however that the term hardcore gamer is very stupid.

Edit: Threw in the /s as solid is a known troll and will probably take it seriously.
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Rchillis  +   464d ago
I agree with the types of games you prefer, but to name those two indies to prove your point is wrong. Go play Flower, Journey, Limbo, Braid, Bastion or Amnesia. Then you will have a different outlook on indie games.
rainslacker  +   464d ago
So...because they announced some indie games, you ignore their "hardcore" games they announced? Seems your priorities aren't consistent with what you say you want.
corvusmd  +   464d ago
MS definitely won, they've been winning the whole console war since E3. Sony has been sitting on their heels, while MS has been working to improve.If you want to keep putting the pressure on MS to improve even further, please do....ill benefit from it. I dont think that most Sony fanboys realize that by constantly complaining about XB1 they are actually sealing their own fate. The more time goes on, the more MS improves, and the more we find out Sony isn't the beast it was supposed to be (remember when Sony's Os only used 1gb of ram? Know now how xb1s hypervisor can make that a reality? Or how MS cloud is a real thing and does more than just allow 2gb of online storage like Gaikai..and how Gaikai claimed to have the most servers until it was found they aren't even in the top ten and Ms is number 2 in the world...and that MS latest upgrade is more than twice the worth of ALL of Gaikai put together....etc.). Like Sony's latest MO, they have no originality, and they are sitting on their heels, just waging a pr campaign and letting uninformed fanboys do all their talking/disinformation. MS has been completely open which leads them to more criticism, but they are taking that criticism to heart and not quitting. I'll reward the innovation, and the drive behind making a great system..not to mention that so far the games look better on xb1....another fail by Sony "the most powerful gamers console" (who counts indie games as exclusives).
For the record I fully planned on getting a PS4 to go with my PS 1 2 3, until I found they have no exclusives I care about yet, and in the one are that makes an actual difference where one side has a huge advantage...they are getting destroyed...network
solidworm  +   464d ago
just say no to drugs.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   464d ago
-_-
Bennibop  +   464d ago
I don't believe you ever intended to own PS4 as you would know the exclusives will come. You harp on about originality but all of Microsofts release are the same old tired formulas. They have not been open they have release part of there policies and then reversed them when the competition gained more ground. In all honesty neither Microsoft or Sony has shown anything that groudbreaking but I am still looking forward to both options and the possibilities they bring.
PsnGammer21  +   464d ago
Man The only reason u like ms is cuz ur a casual gamer who's word mean nothing at all sorry bro just be the facts as I only speak then lol
Bhuahahaha  +   464d ago
lol if you said was true.(saying you had ps1,2 and 3)
then surely you knew by now that sony will give you lots of very very good AAA game on the console mid->end life cycle.

btw ps3 is still getting lots of good games in line
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MonChiChi  +   464d ago
Haahaha what!?
solidworm  +   464d ago
SONY wins by showing a vision for all gamers. Microdud loses because they showed a console for frat boys.
Xsilver  +   464d ago
you cant win something u were barely apart of.
Xsilver  +   464d ago
Who writes these articles -_-. One hand Sony gave allot of information concerning all their platforms shows a bunch of games where Microsoft just talked about indies but had indie no titles to show but showed Fighter Within looks very promising yeah ok, and then were so desperate to sell consoles in Europe lets put fifi14 in consoles than our own original ip because that's what we do best get that exclusive content. Microsoft didn't win Shit.They weren't even competing as far as i'm concern.
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DinoNYC  +   464d ago
Sony obviously won gamescom. No big news for MS. They hyped up huge exclusives and came out with their empty pockets.
portal_2  +   464d ago
Did a 13 year old write this article?
PsnGammer21  +   464d ago
I'm going throw this out there 360 fanbase is just 50% casual while 49% are cod meat heads who think everything else is shit and that last 1% like good games lol
Ashunderfire86  +   464d ago
Microsoft won Gamescom, because X1 now clearly has the stronger line up of games, with more exclusives(Not just arcade games, but actual $60 dollar games) and launching with Fifa 2014 with no additional cost is a plus. Its still $500 dollars, but Microsoft came out strong this time.

Sony's Gamecom press conference was not that good at all, it was ruined by that stupid camera man showing the crowd every 5 seconds(They should fire that guy) through out the conference! The only saving grace of the conference was the Shadow of The Beast Reboot, LittleBigPlanet Hub, Vita price cut, Killzone ShadowFall Multiplayer, and The PS4 release date. With million preorders under Sony's belt, I guess one bad conference won't hurt lol!

X1 will have the better line up, but PS4 will still beat it due to it being $100 dollars cheaper. Microsoft should offer a free trial for Xbox live with a free game in the US also, cause I can see people paying $600 plus tax for the total. PS4 has a slim down free version of Drivers Club, some Free2play games to fill in the void, and a free PSN trial. Finally two great systems come out around the same time instead of waiting a year later like last generation. With 32 countries launching PS4, it will definitely win base on those numbers alone.
o-Sunny-o  +   464d ago
People have clouded minds. TitanFall and Ghosts only look good with the 60fps smoke screening the bland backgrounds. While Killzone SF looks next gen clearly along with Infamous and Driveclub. ^~^
DevilishSix  +   464d ago
Why defend X1 with Titanfall and DR3? I don't get it as a fan of both brands (Xbox & PS). Lets be honest Capcom does not release true exclusives, DR3 will probably be on PS4 around next summer (looks at original DR). Titanfall will be timed exclusive as well. It is EA we are talking about here and they are all about money, I expect Titanfall on PC and PS4 next year as well. So, why would X1 fans refer to those games for some kind of bragging rights or system war fodder makes no sense.
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LoveOfTheGame  +   464d ago
I still can't believe how fast the original Dead Rising came to PS3 and PC. Just to refresh my memory could you tell me when exactly the original Dead Rising made it to those two. I can't seem to find a copy anywhere, strange.
DevilishSix  +   464d ago
Excuse me, but where did I say DR came out for PS3? I didn't, but a remake came out on Wii and DR versions came out on Mobile phones.

My point was that DR franchise has never been and as I quoted above "true exclusive"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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LoveOfTheGame  +   464d ago
Fair enough, but we are talking singular game. Who cares if a franchise eventually becomes multiplat, if that one game stays exclusive it still in favor of that console.

Personally, I don't like third party exclusives. I feel everyone should get to experience them.
kwiksilver99  +   463d ago
well,capcom says dead rising 3 is exclusive to xboxone.
have respawn ever given any indication that titanfall might ever come out for the ps4 too?
or is that just wishfull thinking on my part?
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ShiranaiJittai  +   463d ago
There are a few problems here.

“Now I am not completely biased that is not what this article is about.”

Contained in an article titled

“Did Microsoft win Gamescom 2013″

Two sentences in saying “so who ultimately…won the show? In my opinion the answer is QUITE CLEAR”… (I would say your wording is way off here as though you are completely entitled to your opinion even your very article does not tell the story of a landslide victory a comeback from near annihilation? Absolutely. A Quite clear victory? Good luck convincing anyone who doesn’t work for Microsoft in some capacity of that.

I also am not “biased” I use the same wording quite often and it is hard to defend but I do so successfully. You did not. Were you truly unbiased you would outline all the specifics of what Sony and Microsoft did wrong. You mention ONE point of contention in Sony’s favor and just up and forgive for Microsoft for taking a steaming crap on your face.

I will admit wholeheartedly I play Playstation more often than Xbox and I think INITIALLY PS4 is going to slaughter Xbox One (It is far too early to tell who will win it all overall in the end, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to say that at least for the first year maybe in the first two years Xbox is going to be seriously struggling.

My reasons for sticking with Sony have very little to do with almost everything anyone is talking about online.

With every day the system is out people are going to realize more and more just how big a deal it is for Mark Cerny to be the lead architect of the system. He seriously knows his stuff and has been working in the industry for 31 years. He is selling an artificial child of his own creation and every single little interview or keynote speech he has given he has had a smile on his face like he is talking about a newborn baby. I don’t know that I have every seen the professional yet casual nature with which he talks about the product. Maybe by Steve Jobs possibly?

He is not a suit and tie selling a product he is a wunderkind (Started working for Atari at either 15 or 16 can’t remember which who has a bigger passion for games then the majority of people inside and outside of the industry. If he were the one who created the Xbox One I would jump on that ship in a heartbeat. He didn’t though. You are about to experience a revolution in gaming. And we have Mark Cerny to thank for it.

Also for the record previous generation all 3 of “the big 3″ had disappointed me I still stuck with Sony for the most part but they pissed me off just as much as the other two. PS4 looks like it going back to the days of Playstation and PS2. This isn’t a contest in this first year. It is a massacre.
noctis_lumia  +   463d ago
nope

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