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Submitted by mathsman 469d ago | opinion piece

The Best Kinect Game I Ever Played

What could happen if the Xbox One motion controller got things right? (Fable: The Journey, Kinect, Mass Effect 3, Tech, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

malokevi  +   469d ago
"The Kinect is currently being perceived more as a means for Microsoft to spy on people, partially because the internet is full of rumour-mongering idiots and mostly because Microsoft has not yet presented their new Kinect in a true gaming light."

Lol. Nice.

I agree with the article. The potential for Kinect in the coming generation is huge. I can't wait to see how it gets integrated into hardcore/AAA titles. I have faith that developers will be abel to do some things that will turn the heads of box and Sony fans alike.

Hopefully we will get a better taste at E3 next week.
LOGICWINS  +   469d ago
What I find amusing is that the same people who criticize Kinect for allegedly spying on them don't realize that their online purchases/browsing habits are being tabulated EVERY DAY by Facebook, Google etc. This is how they tailor their ads to consumers.
malokevi  +   469d ago | Well said
Oh, they realize. They simply practice a vicious double-stanard, where everything they do in life is OK, but XboxOne is not.

Cameras in stores, on the street, on their phone, built into their laptop, watching them piss in a middle school locker-room.... none of that matters. But a camera built into what is essentially a TOY, protected by untold layers of heavily funded security infrastructure and privacy options, now THATS something all playstation fanboys need to worry about.

Because they would have considered getting an XboxOne even if the Kinect wasnt packed in.... right? *eyes roll around in head*
BattleTorn  +   469d ago
Also, that everyone has the ability to 'unplug the thing'

@LOGICWINS

Tell me about it, I've seen people here say the FBI is going to monitor it, and that it'll increase false-claims of child abuse, by watching parents with spoiled kids...
http://n4g.com/news/1267633...
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LOGICWINS  +   469d ago
^^Thats not an option on N4G. That would make too much sense

/facepalm
majiebeast   469d ago | Trolling | show
Dlacy13g  +   469d ago
@majiebeast you are the only one in here spinning a tale. You seem to pop up on all the MS articles and yet you clearly seem to have no desire to get the next Xbox. I am sure they have a name for that kind of behavior....
RiPPn  +   469d ago
Maybe some of us just don't want to mime controllers and just prefer to you know, use a controller. And we certainly don't like being told that this is how we want to play.

@LOGICWINS: browsing data and facebook usage =/= video surveillance in your home no matter how you Microsoft apologists want to spin it.
BattleTorn  +   469d ago
He was refering to purchasing habits.

As in, there already are companies that monitor how we manage our wallets, more than any (in-home) webcam ever could...
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InTheLab  +   469d ago
"The potential for Kinect in the coming generation is huge."

I kinda feel like the same thing was said about the original and nothing of value came from it.
ShwankyShpanky  +   469d ago
Right... "rumor mongering idiots" that can read an EULA.

The current XBL EULA includes the following. Keep in mind that the term "Services" will cover a much broader spectrum with the One.

"If you use ... Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services."

...and this:

"Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region."

...and of course:

"we may access or disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the Services; and (c) act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers, or the public."

All of these terms subject to the interpretation of MS/govt lawyers. And with the "always on," this can be easily abused. "Oh, we thought you might be doing something against our EULA, so we checked to see if there was any audio or video from the Kinect that was related to that." "Oh, the Feds saw you buying supplies for your indoor veggie garden at the hydroponics store, so they 'lawfully requested' that we check if there was any audio or video related to that."

P.S.
Kansas Couple: Indoor Gardening Prompted Pot Raid
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com...

The FBI Seeks Overbroad Expansion of Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act
http://www.gamepolitics.com...

@below: Some of us are smarter with our internet usage, and prefer not to hand over every detail of our lives on a silver platter.

cameras in stores: how does that equate to a camera in my private home?
on the street: public spaces do not confer reasonable expectation of privacy. Again, how does that equate to a camera in my private home?
on their phone: ...looking at the inside of my pocket?
in their laptop: 1) not in my laptop. 2) piece o' tape
in a middle school locker room: show me a case where that's *not* illegal

"untold layers of heavily funded security infrastructure and privacy options"

Microsoft Spying on Users For Free
http://www.networkworld.com...
"earlier this year (2010) ... FTC also named Microsoft as one of the companies that failed to keep the promises they made to consumers regarding the security of their personal information. According to testimony [PDF] delivered to the Senate, "Failure to maintain reasonable security is an "unfair" practice that violates the FTC Act involved such practices as the alleged failure to:
1. comply with posted privacy policies
2. take even the most basic steps to protect against common technology threats.
3. dispose of data safely
4. take reasonable steps to guard against sharing customer data with unauthorized third parties.
BattleTorn  +   469d ago
I haven't played Fable:The Journey, though I don't mind the idea of it being shipped with the Xbox One.

I'm not much of a Kinect fan really, but I did like the voice commands in Mass Effect 3. (they were enough for me to eventually play on PS3 for other reasons tho)

My favorite Kinect game: (I haven't played all too many)

Fruit Ninja!

Anyone with Kinect should get it!
guitarded77  +   469d ago
I need to play it. I bought it new on Black Friday for $15 and haven't even opened it. I keep the Kinect in the living room since there's more room in there, but my wife is always watching TV in there, so I usually just stick to my gaming rig.
SegaSaturn669  +   469d ago
Being able to turn on my tv and ps4 with voice commands does seem pretty awesome.

I don't mind paying for the XBone as long as it succeeds as an accessory to improve the ps4.
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d_dogg2007  +   469d ago
The best Kinect game I played was walking right by it at Best buy and not wasting 149$ of my hard earned dollars on it!I don't even feel bad for any of the saps who bought it!
SpinalRemains  +   469d ago
Kinect and hardcore titles do not court one another. The moment you remove the controller, you lose.
Dlacy13g  +   469d ago
I would argue that a hardcore game is not dependent on a controller. Back in the day everyone said it was only a hardcore game if it had mouse and keyboard. What failed for hardcore games and the first kinect was two fold in my eyes:

1) Biggest reason it never caught on to a great hardcore game was the tech was very limited in what it could do vs what was originally promised. Developers had to make many concessions if they wanted to use it (other than voice commands)

2) Developers tried to shoe horn in gimmicky play vs really seeing what the camera did well and just use that to its strengths.
SpinalRemains  +   469d ago
Valid points.

I just honestly think that once you have the player mimicking the movements, that you actually remove the player from the game. Conventional thinking would lead you to believe it's more immersive, but it actually has the opposite effect. We are programmed as gamers to have instant feedback upon using buttons and sticks. We sit and we play. When the player begins to move around to achieve a certain action, #1- it will never work properly 100% of the time, #2- it actually delays the intended action for obvious reasons, and lastly - controllers never went obsolete. They work as intended and to force Kinect upon us is unnecessary.

Sure Kinect 2.0 may work much better than Natal, but it still comes with caveats.
Dlacy13g  +   469d ago
fair counter points. I will just tack on to your "controllers never went obsolete" comment with the counter that keyboard and mouse never went obsolete. They co-exist and motion controls too can co-exist "IF" the tech is improved to the point that it works as intended 99.9% of the time. (I give a grace of .1% cause even controllers hiccup sometimes with a laggy response to a button push)
dcbronco  +   469d ago
I bet many of the people that complain about gestures and voice on Kinect will buy a TV with those same features.
SpinalRemains  +   469d ago
I don't.

If you're not into it, you're not into it.
dcbronco  +   469d ago
And some aren't. But many are so invested in protecting Playstation that they throw logic and honesty out the window. I've never heard a group of people have such hate for technological advancement since the Amish.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   469d ago
Speaking of best Kinect games I love how people on here think those 15 exclusive titles will be "Kinect, Kinect, Kinect."

If that was the case then why in the world would they enhance the controller for Xbox One? If MS didn't care about the core they would made some very lazy efforts with the controller. Instead they fixed the D-Pad and even added in vibrating triggers and enhanced the Feedback on it.

That controller is as hardcore as it gets. Only fanboys think everything will be about Kinect.
edonus  +   469d ago
I agree with the guy on most of what he says but one big thing i think he has wrong is fully integrating kinect in to everything at least from the start.

The current kinect is a very useful tool and the new one will be even better but these things have learning curves. With the new kinects higher fidelity and tighter all around tracking it will help that learning curve out but you still have to learn how to use it.

It breaks down in to 2 parts 1) being kinect itself, mastering how it feels how to manipulate and control it. Understanding the space around you understanding the shape of your body getting a feel for the speed and range of the system. This is why a lot of people couldnt play Steel Battalion. Steel Battalion through a lot at the player and didnt hold back. The Devs made it assuming you knew how to use kinect perfectly or would learn.

The 2nd part is the skills of the person. Example: Let say Kinect Star Wars gave you a full 1:1 light saber fighting combat system like ppl wanted from MOVE.... sounds great problem is you cant sword fight. You dont know proper forms and parries and how to shift weight and keep balance. all you would do is swing back and forth as hard anfast as you can basically reducing the combat to damn near exactly how people play the game now. Even in the current KSW you gain advantages by by blocking dodging and setting up enemies and most people never even learned that. The reviews would tell you that you cant use the force on most of the enemies when the truth is 90% of the enemies can be affected by the force you just have to set them up and break their defenses. So you got a bunch of people wanting to swing a light saber like Yoda but cant even properly work the menu system.

Any way the solution for this stuff is to gradually introduce the kinect functions in to the players. Core gamers have big egos, they think they have seen all done it all and that anything that doesnt just flow in to their skill set is broken so you have coax them in. They are just as new to kinect and motion control as a 80yr old with a dualshock. Start with little things like raise your hand to access map or raise controller to activate shield (i have heard and seen this in action already) raise your hand to your ear to switch to night vision. As time goes on start adding more complex things throw grenade or the controller works as is but you cast magic with your own hand. Once they are past that stage start with the full body stuff leaning and ducking kicking some stand up games even Steel Battalion style interactive control boards.

People dont realize this is the true gen of motion controls. I say with in 2 years kinect and Pseye4 will be accepted standards. I dont know what Nintendo is doing.

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