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Avalanche Studios: Wii U install base is too small

Just Cause developer Avalanche Studios has no plans to develop games for the Wii U due to the small install base, according to studio founder Christofer Sundberg.

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iplay1up24436d ago

Uh, I am just saying. If you look at the 360/PS3 sales the first year the install base (more so for PS3) was not very large. So if developers choose to do this that is their mistake. Even if Wii U has only sold 5 Million by the time PS4/720 come out, well that is 5 million more consoles already owned when the others will have to play catch up for the install base. Also when those systems are released Nintendo will FINALLY have some better AAA titles that will make people want to pick one up. It will be an interesting Holiday season for sure.

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subtenko4435d ago

No one wants to develope for the Wii U even if it gets a bigger install base. They are just putting another excuse in so that it doesnt hurt some peoples feelings.

Sorry guys but the Wii U looks like another Gamecube (the way I saw gamecube) or maybe even worse. We'll give it time though. If they keep at this rate when the ps4 and xbox720 our out, Nintendo is done with that thing.

3-4-54435d ago

Install base will grow but it's once again up to Nintendo to grow it, via their good games, and then once it's "cool again" then everyone will jump on the Nintendo bandwagon and start making decent to crappy games for the Wii U.

I wish some of these Dev's had the guts to just be the person who makes you want a Wii U, by creating an awesome game for it.

Because there aren't that many good games for it yet, there is a huge opening there.....take advantage of it dev's....create the system selling game for Wii U instead of always relying on Nintendo to do it.

jmc88884435d ago

You're forgetting that games indeed skipped the 360 and PS3 when those were out.

Most people forget this because most 360/PS3 gamers were still playing games on the PS2...so they didn't notice.

But there were some good games in 2005-06-07 era that came out and were not on the 360/PS3.

The same thing was bound to happen with the Wii U. The same will happen (but less so) for the PS4 and 720. One thing is that developers have been waiting for the next generation and so they built their next gen engines to take advantage of both, or at the very least did a half step and now will proceed the other half step upgrade with their engine.

There's also the other thing, being in the greatest depression mankind has ever witnessed and every day is getting worse, well most companies deep down know this even if they say the complete opposite, thus if they are going to take a hit by making games for consoles that don't have a large install base, they want to do that for Sony and MS, not Nintendo.

Ubisoft did though, so hats off to them.

The Wii U needs more games. I'm sure Nintendo will deliver. I know for a fact it's powerful enough to run many of the 'next gen engines'. The Crysis team even had Crysis 3 up and running on it quite easily.

But Nintendo right now is caught in a chicken and egg scenario. They need games to sell the system, but developers don't want to make games unless the system sells.

Nintendo needs to pump out a bunch of core titles and get that system selling so other devs will jump on-board.

But remember though, smaller developers will continue to make 360/PS3 games for a while until they think they can afford the risk to putting out a game for the PS4/720 with it's much smaller (as 100 million or so per system vs 10-20 million at that time) user base. So don't expect full buy-in by the devs of even the 720 and PS4 for a couple of years. The big boys will of course be there at launch, even more so then the Wii U, but the Wii U had a decent amount of games at launch...just a good portion people had played on other systems and after the launch there was nothing until Monster Hunters and Lego whatever.

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DivineAssault 4436d ago

smh... Wii U isnt getting any kind of support it seems

AKR4436d ago

Heh? You sure about that?

Tell that to:

- Rayman Legends
- Watch_DOGS
- Batman: Arkham Origins
- Splinter Cell: Blacklist
- Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag
- Shadows of the Eternals
- Dues EX: Human Revolution
- The Wonderful 101
- Bayonetta 2
- And the plethora of indie titles . . .

auragenz4436d ago

Too Short, Didn't Read.

AKR4436d ago (Edited 4436d ago )

@Auragenz ~ Yeah it's a short list, but at least it's SOMETHING right? And even so, all those games are QUALITY , high-demand titles. So even if it is a bit lightweight, that's still pretty good.

And hey, that list doesn't even include unannounced titles, as well as confirmed first-party titles. That's just all the 3rd-party games that have been CONFIRMED to be hitting the system, so far.

majiebeast4436d ago

"Shadows of the Eternals"

I really wouldnt get my hopes up for that one they are at 120K and the donations are now going slower then a snail they would be lucky if they hit 500K at this pace. Also doesnt help that its by Denis Dyack and SK people.

DA_SHREDDER4436d ago

They are just mad cause they can't hardly sell their game even with 2 big install bases that are the ps3 and 360. Boo hoo!

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DivineAssault 4436d ago

pretty weak list compared to all the games PS3/360 are getting.. Nx gen is going to be even worse if it barely gets current gen games

Qrphe4436d ago

>Shadows of the Eternals

The way the funding for this game is going I wouldn't even bother listing it.

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BitbyDeath4436d ago

Yet they're making games for PS4 and Xbox 3 which currently have no install base...

showtimefolks4436d ago

Yeh lets see 2 companies which have proven track record with 3rd party support to one with a proven track record not to get the support and when they do get the support 3rd party games don't sell

Also these are not my or anyone else's opinion these are cold hard facts

Wiiu will be like any other Nintendo console, I will buy one so will most other core fans to play Nintendo exclusives. I don't know why people are freaking out about wiiu not getting 3rd party support I mean the last Nintendo home console to get 3rd party support was SNES and that was a lot time ago

If people are pissed now on wiiu hate just wait after E3 when all news will be about next Xbox and ps4.

kagamer794436d ago

Wii u will be fine I think. They won't have as many 3rd party heavy hitters as ps4 or 720 tho. I really believe the wii u will produce some great looking first party titles. I'm not saying mario will save the day but I think when the wii u shows a game that looks stellar people will come around. I'm looking forward to a new zelda and I'm sure it will be better than any zelda before it.

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Avalanche Talks Hogwarts Legacy and Bringing Wizardry to Nintendo Switch 2

Avalanche shares how Hogwarts Legacy runs on Nintendo Switch 2, with faster loading, visual upgrades, and system-specific enhancements.

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Sorry George Miller, but you’re wrong about the Mad Max game

George Miller expressed dismay toward the 2015 Mad Max game recently, but Avalanche Studios' take on the lore is still so good to this day.

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lelo2play401d ago

Mad Max is a good game... George Miller should STFU.

Old_Scout400d ago

He didn't say it wasn't good. Maybe you should take your own advice and look past the articles misleading headline. Here's the actual quote. “wasn’t as good as we wanted it to, it wasn’t in our hands.” That is all he said about it.

S2Killinit400d ago (Edited 400d ago )

In my opinion the guy himself Is pretty mediocre, so I dont like how he talks as if he’s something special. I dont think he would know a good game if it hit him in the face.

StormSnooper400d ago (Edited 400d ago )

If George Miller had good taste he wouldn’t be wearing those ridiculous glasses.

-Foxtrot401d ago

I think the funny thing is if Kojima made a Mad Max game it would be so trippy and "out there" I don't think it would feel like Mad Max by the time he's done with it. This is why he's better off with original new IPs.

Kojima seems like a buzz word these film directors use because he's probably the only big name they've heard from the gaming industry.

Wretchedstain401d ago

Article is correct in my opinion, Miller is wrong. That Death Stranding II trailer is bonkers, looking forward to that in itself.

And I agree, unless Mr Kojima wants to change his tune, or laughably, be told what to do, you're right, it wouldn't be Mad Max or close.

porkChop401d ago

Yup, Kojima really doesn't suit Mad Max. Avalanche did a great job though. It looked, felt, and played like what I'd expect from a Mad Max game. I really enjoyed my time with it, and the sand storms were handled incredibly well.

jznrpg400d ago

I think Kojima could definitely make a great Mad Max game.

SubtilizZer400d ago

I disagree… I don’t want to see Kojima do Mad Max or whatever… But I disagree with your take. Kojima is first a huge fan of film. I think saying he wouldn’t be able to stick to the lore of the world that was built is kinda crazy.

I’m sure he would be able to stick to the creative confines of the source material fairly well. Chances are he’s a huge fan.

I’m sure he’s a bit of a”buzzword” sure but I’m willing to bet it’s mutual respect for his work as well.

TheGamingHounds400d ago

I never played it but the recent buzz around Mad Max has piqued my interest. Will check it out this year for sure

maelstromb400d ago (Edited 400d ago )

MM is not a perfect game by any means as it was held back by lots of repetitious, standard open-world copy and paste missions, but the devs SO perfectly captured the world, atmosphere, lore and brutality. It also just so happens to boast one of THE best photo modes out there and some of the most impressive explosions I've ever seen in a game to date. The car combat is of course another impressive standout, both vicious and fun. MM is a game which I have revisited multiple times since its release, and now having just seen Furiosa, I can feel it calling me back again.

There's a ton to love there, but I think you'll pickup on the areas where the devs struggled likely due to reigning in the scope, budget and time constraints, leading to an incredibly fun, albeit uneven experience. Though, as mentioned, it's absolutely a game worth experiencing once, and I truly hope you enjoy it. The game really does deserve a sequel.

victorMaje400d ago

Word for word. Exactly this. A lot of fun to be had in there. A true Mad Max game. Sequel can’t come soon enough.

gigoran8400d ago

and the fact that they originally had an American voice actor until everyone kicked up a big stink about it?

maelstromb400d ago

Honestly, Kojima would do the game justice, but given his studio's current workload, it's a bit far flung. I could much rather see Bend Studios (Days Gone dev) doing a Mad Max follow-up. I'm playing through DG right now for the first time and I see lots of similarities between the games to where imo Bend could develop an impressive MM sequel.

jznrpg400d ago

Bend does makes sense. But I’d rather they made Days Gone 2 (no multiplayer of course) as I really like the motorcycle and the hordes of zombies was a lot of fun.

VersusDMC400d ago

While i like the Mad Max game and think it's underrated...i don't know why people are mad at George Miller for not liking the game based on the IP he created. Especially since a lot of people hated it at release as well looking at that 69% metacritic.

-Foxtrot400d ago

I think the issue is the studio was told by higher ups and most likely himself to make something linear yet when they got a first look at it they didn’t like it and wanted something open world

The head guy was basically like “you’ve just hired an open world dev and forced them to do a linear game yet now you want open world which has just wasted a year of development which we could have done from the start”

I think that’s why people are p****** because of the context the lead dev at Avalanche has given us.

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Avalanche Studios Staff Reach Two-Year Union Contract

After six months of negotiating, Avalanche Studios staff have successfully unionized with a new two-year collective bargaining agreement.

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thorstein444d ago

Sega unionized, now Avalanche. Rafiki: It is time

XiNatsuDragnel444d ago

Unionization is the future homie