Microsoft have always been a contending force in the gaming industry, ever since they emerged onto the scene with the original Xbox in the early 2000’s. While the original Xbox wasn’t nearly as successful as the PS2, it held its own and pushed forward, creating amazing titles such as Halo, and with Xbox Live, becoming the dominant online gaming system, a title that still holds true to this day. With all this in mind, I am predicting that Microsoft will have the best selling, most popular system next generation. Why? Read on to find out.
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I would say so or this guy is huffing too much paint thinner.
Only Neverending,Green and Jekporkins show up.
Jekporkins logic MURICA is the world.
Forza 2 sold 4.00m
Forza 3 sold 5.36m
Forza 4 sold 3.95m
Forza: Horizon sold 1.34m so far
If it funny how he ignores Europes figures. GT is a huge franchise in Europe which he seems to ignore.
I imagine this topic will gain lots of traction. Anytime the console wars is outlined in the topic people have knee-jerk reactions.
does each generation have to be about platforms winning and losing?
What happened to the gamers winning from having so many great titles to play from?
http://n4g.com/news/1246524...
HAHA have fun arguing with a brick wall.
"why...
does each generation have to be about platforms winning and losing?"
They don't. The real winners are the ones who play any game they choose regardless of which system it's on. I guess some people need to validate their purchase more than others.
Some see it as a sports team cheering them on. How can anyone actually cheer a company on like a sports team? Sony and Nintendo come from Japan, is this an East versus West sports team? I don't know of too many sports teams that have that many of the same players, do you? If 80% (just a guess) of the games on the PS3 and Xbox 360 are the same, play the same, and look the same how can one cheer one more than the other?
It's no secret the worst fans are the Xbox 360 and PS3 camp. Arguing for years over nothing. All because they are marketing the same gamer and each trying to get the others fanbase to cross over. I would like to see more separation from them next generation. You don't need two platforms that are going for the same customer. That's why it's good having Nintendo around. They try to go in a different direction but even they know the importance of 3rd party content. Sadly they just won't be able to compete in that area moving forward. Most of those publishers will not fully exploit the Wii U or even bother releasing games on it.
This is why all eyes will be on the next Xbox. People want to see just how much it will compete with the PS4. Sony fans are waiting anxiously and will put a damper on it as much as they can until then. Xbox 360 fans are excited and also apprehensive. They too want to know what direction Microsoft will take. I have a feeling it will be just like the current generation. Both battling over the same consumer and each side will argue again and declare their system the winner because to some there has to be a winner.
lol it's pretty funny though, I've read more logical and informed fanboy rants here on N4G.
Gt5 is almost or over 10 million
Gt5:p was a demo that sold over 5 million
So one demo and game sold more than lifetime sales of Forza series
Also what does winning mean? This gen ps3 outsold xbox360 from day one yet everyone overlooks that. Ps3 had the best and most exclusive games but guess what 3 games from MS are better than 10-13 different gaming series from Sony
Seriously atleast try. Why can't people accept the fact we had 3 successful consoles?
Next gen we will again have 3 consoles that will sell 50 plus million
So why does one has to win the gen? Competition is the reason Sony brought out so much firepower so if you think that MS winning next gen is so good than get use to halo,forza and gears and not much else
Jek-porkins
Well so the author is giving sale numbers for forza for world wide yet giving sale number for GT only in the USA? How does that make sense? GT or any racing game does better in Europe than here in th US.
Stop trying to defend stealth trolling by this author
10+ mill isn't farfetched.
That sounds sooooo Republican
Maybe just maybe you should google world wide sales for GT5, which were confirmed by Sony at over 9 million in 2012
Life time sales at 68 plus million for series, so yeh we make up numbers GT5 at launch did 7 million
Research some before blaming others
Also maybe forza team can learn something about giving some free DLC like PD has done with GT5. Big updates were released long after release and big improvements were made
Now forza is also a great series IMO
I believe GT can learn something from Forza when it comes to onlin community features and Forza can learn that SIM racing is suppose to be SIm not mixture of SIM and Arcady
As of Sep 2012 GT5 sold 9.19m
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...
Its now May 2013, that's 8 months later, so it is entirely feasible :)
See, I don't know if Microsoft will win next gen. They might! Honestly, they really might!
However, why should we give a flying ****? This isn't 2008. Playing the sales game was cute for a few years. Now it's boring.
Microsoft has more important issues on the table like their reduction of hardcore exclusives, their backing out on being THE Jrpg console like they first attempted, hiking the cost of XBL without adding any significant features, their shift of focus to the casual crowd, their shift in focus to being a "media center", their lack of investment in new game engines or new IPs or new middleware for developers, their backing out on being THE indie console like they attempted, the possibility that they'll DRM-lock every game you buy with an always-online requirement, whether or not they'll repeat their accessory price hiking with the NextBox like they did with the 360...the list goes on.
And yet, the Xbox crowd feels the desperate, desperate need to announce to the world "hey guize! MS gonna win next gen! XBLA 4EVR BROS!"
your dislike for the xbox culture didnt take an article to reveal that. You willingly showed it through the body of your post.
you have to understand that the delusional dont speak for the rational. There are just as delusional fans of one side as there are another.
It takes great restraint and character to stand in the middle and not let either side get to you.
I enjoy the industry as a whole and feel very fortunate to be able to participate with those who can embrace both the good with the bad. It cant always be one side or the other. There has to be a balance.
I agree 100%; it was funny and entertaining with the whole "Sales" arguments however anymore it's rehashed arguments, and "What if" statistics. I've mentioned multiple times; all these people arguing over sales must be share holders in these companies because that's all they talk about anymore. I remember when 100K was good to sell a game, now if something doesn't break 2+ million opening night (According to the fanbase) it's considered a failure; yet the company themselves says they made profit, however the conspiracy theorists will argue "invalid information."
I find it ironic and hipocritical of you to call out one side, while ignoring the other such as Sony or Nintendo (whom essentially is barely doing anything at all).
Let's face it, you know virtually nothing about the next Xbox nor how MS shift (assuming it happens) will affect the core games.
You should really look at the facts:
"their reduction of hardcore exclusives,"
But those few IPs are heavy hitting, indicating demand as it is.
"their backing out on being THE Jrpg console like they first attempted,"
The sales were abysmal. Perhaps you should look in the mirror and ask why?
"hiking the cost of XBL without adding any significant features,"
One word, "inflation" and no, MS did introduce a lot more features such as beacon, internet explorer, party chat, and so on.
Also, MS actually pays employees to monitor the network and report to consumers, has their own division to manage the Xbox Live community that you yourself can reach. That is a huge cost, and I don't see the competitor have that.
"their shift of focus to the casual crowd,"
Whoever MS focuses on isn't really important. In the end, it is what they offer i.e. if they offer me plenty of games and want to expand their casual audience, why is that a problem?
That is just a fanboy excuse.
"their lack of investment in new game engines or new IPs or new middleware for developers"
That is completely false as MS has the most built out API of the three console manufacturers for just about anything and they are very convenient to use. Why do you think it is easier to program for?
Let me put it like this, the documentation isn't in Japanese (if it even exist on other consoles), and there are hooks for everything.
MS sends out engineers and put their teams on helping third party. Sony didn't do this until competitive pressure appeared from MS.
I cannot see how you are saying MS isn't developing middleware or investing in new game engines.
New IPs has been funded by MS through third party developers with some success i.e. Alan Wake for instance, but consumers just prefer sequels. If you look at MS new IP strategy and to some extent Sony't they haven't been that successful.
If you care about games, you should care about how the business operates as well. If business don't succeed, then there are no games either!
so what?
Why aren't you asking why isn't Sony or Nintendo doing *anything* at all about indie games?
Just one fact proves this:
Who but MS has free development tools and self publishing rights, complete self-ownership of ip and self pricing control for $100?
Sony? Nope, requires several thousand dollar dev kit if Sony deems you worthy. Nintendo? Nope, even more strict!
This is most definitely a fanboy mis-information propaganda.
"the possibility that they'll DRM-lock every game you buy with an always-online requirement,"
This is just a rumor, that has internal emails leaked that shows that this is false, but people would rather censor that and want you to believe that isn't the case:
http://arstechnica.com/gami...
In fact, at this point it is Sony who has flip flopped on the issue, but nobody talks about that.
In the media MS has received some serious bad press due to a *rumor*.
"whether or not they'll repeat their accessory price hiking with the NextBox like they did with the 360."
MS offers their stuff at whatever the market can bear and that is important, because MS needs to fund their business like every one else.
However, the same question applies to Sony as well, such as the memory card for PS Vita or the exorbitant price for PSP Go.
... or why isn't the Playstation crowd asking, why is there a need for 8GB GDDR5 or how much is that cost especially if I might not need it?
Point being, you set yourself on one side, complaining about the other and in some cases ignoring facts!
In addition, the problem isn't MS. They are doing exactly what the market wants. I'm sorry, but MS isn't in to the niche sales thing, and I doubt Sony is either. They just haven't shown their hands yet!
While I'm flattered by not one, but two gigantic posts in response to my own, you'll notice that this article is about Microsoft, Microsoft's future plans, and no one else's.
Here's a tip: first to scream "fanboy" loses. And guess what? You lost already.
Ah, I see. You are one of them people without a proper response, then just claim victory.
I guess you win, because I got baited into thinking you were serious at debating, but instead trolled me into wasting my time. Well played!
That's ok, you go hang out with your biased friends here on n4g patting each other on the back. The rest of the world moves on as nothing ever happened.
Just one fact proves this:
Who but MS has free development tools and self publishing rights, complete self-ownership of ip and self pricing control for $100?
Sony? Nope, requires several thousand dollar dev kit if Sony deems you worthy. Nintendo? Nope, even more strict!
This is most definitely a fanboy mis-information propaganda."
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I know this is a little old, but wow. This is some funny stuff.
Nuke demands some response to his two comment term paper, but he doesn't even have his facts right.
Just this week, Sony lowered their PS Mobile fee to ZERO from $100.
And they have the pub fund program, in which they pay developers royalties up front to support indie game development.
Hell, just this week, the PS Blog previewed three or four indie games.
But no... Nuke acts like Sony does nothing. There's only one explanation for his comments...
"This is most definitely a fanboy mis-information propaganda."
Sounds like he "sets himself on one side, complaining about the other and in some cases ignoring facts!"
have we not heard enough of this saying??
6 months behind Sony ps4 announcement and we get this
SERIOUSLY??? must be slow day at the office again.
It might be a while until Wii U gets one unfortunately. Sony and hopefully MS will have stopping power come next gen.
Both need to survive to satisfy my and other gamers needs.
http://arstechnica.com/gami...
But if course you don't see this anywhere on N4G.
WKC sold less than 250K!
Demon's Souls didn't hit 1 million!
and the big on:
Gran Turismo 5 Sold 2 million only!!!!
What a load of crap!
Edit for spelling mistake
Overall.
Well, no. Overall GT5 sold 9 million + http://www.polyphony.co.jp/... . If that's even the Gran Turismo he's referring to. The article as a whole is misrepresentation run wild. One could just as easily write the same article using Japanese numbers in lieu of American and come to opposite conclusions. Suddenly Demons Souls outsells Fable 3 by a 7-1 ratio. Heck, suddenly Yakuza 4 outsold Halo 4 by 12-1. Dalton's deliberately spinning fractions. Meh article.
http://www.polyphony.co.jp/...
ps: its just me that have no patience anymore to read this type of articles?
You get use to one and next thing you know it, theirs a new one.
GT 4 sold 2.25m in the US. 4.24m in Europe with a total for 8.89m globally.
Forza 2 sold 4.00m
Forza 3 sold 5.36m
Forza 4 sold 3.95m
Forza: Horizon sold 1.34m so far
If it funny how he ignores Europes figures. GT is a huge franchise in Europe which he seems to ignore. It seems to be the sales are going down.
Sony don't have an in house RPG series like Microsoft do. They rely on third party. Ni No Kuni didn't see a million sales but it has great quality. I also have heard the opinion that Fable overpromises and under delivers but that is not my own. Since the author likes picking and choosing how about Final Fantasy XIII sold nearly 5 million on PS3 and only 2 million on 360 and FFXIII-2 sold 2.5 million on PS3 and 0.64 million on 360. Tales of Graces f sold 0.78m globally on PS3. Tales of Vesperia sold 0.65m on 360.
"The trend here is this: Microsoft knows how to propery market their games and get some money made, which in turn allows the studios to create more AAA games."
That is great for Microsoft but not for fans. Sony have thrown games at us for years now. They didn't see 10 million each but I got more games to play.
"As long as Microsoft continue pushing Xbox Live further and further, and keep it one step ahead of PSN, tons of gamers will choose it for that very reason."
http://www.gamefaqs.com/pol...
I have both and I still believe XBL is better than PSN. However, fanboys read this part too, PS+ blows Gold out of the water value wise.
"hey guise imma gonna say that the next xbox is going to win even though we know nothing about the system itself, and i'm just going to base it on false facts from current generation technology."
this idiot should look at the wii U, and realize that you can't predict the success of anything based on what the previous generation was able to accomplish.
Why would anyone even try and predict the console war when we have no info about the Xbox? The little info we do have are based on rumors that are obviously made up for hits.
Damn... I was looking for a real gaming news site too.
At the same time, these articles get blocked by the mods:
http://www.ign.com/articles...
http://www.gamespot.com/new...
http://arstechnica.com/gami...
Go figure...
It is easily the most talked subject today. But a N4G-mod did not like the rumor...
There even is a thread with 29 pages of responses on Gaf:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
People tend to forget about that whole year thing.
This is get disagrees for sure, but PlayStation 3 has outsold Xbox 360 WORLDWIDE pretty much every year since it has been available on the market, AND is the fastest selling console this generation, whilst the Xbox 360 is the slowest selling home console of this generation.
In late 2006, when the PS3 launched in Japan, the Xbox 360 had roughly an 8 million unit lead on Sony. Today, that lead is utterly negligible. In the next few years, you're going to see the PS3 reaching the 100m stretch.
What this tells us is that if PS3 launched side-by-side with the Xbox 360, the 360 would be 8 million units behind the PS3 today.
Even with a stronger Xbox brand, without Sony's mistakes and industry circumstance to lean on (poor marketing, challenging architecture for developers, launching after the competition, expensive console, inferior network, media doom and gloom articles, misinformation about console and its games), PS4 looks to outsell the next Xbox, year-on-year... oh, and we're talking about a worldwide industry here, not just Murica.
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And there's no denying that MS and their 360 stole a lot if not almost all of Sony's thunder in the home video game console dominance. Who knows the outcome if they released side by side. I'm sure MS knew this which is one of the reasons they probably decided to release a year early.
And say what you want about "Murica". But this is the country you want to have the number 1 spot in. The 360 was captured it (plus UK/Canada)and was able to be consistent and keep their lead over PS3 for damn near 6 years.
Now that Xbox has become as popular as the Playstation it will be a very interesting race this coming gen. I expect the Nextbox to outsell the PS4 year-onyear...waitaminute...so rry, I went into full fanboy mode what I meant to say is I see the WIIU outselling both consoles once it gets legs.
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Which really means nothing and what stopped people from buying PS3 after it released? It should of passed xbox a long time ago but it didn't.
Speaking of nonsense... The WiiU Is killing both the PS4 and next Xbox by like 5 million units. Both should have caught the WiiU a long time ago...
PS2 selling 154 million compared to the Xbox at 24 million. I still believe if sony continues to focus on games, have a decent price on the ps4,market it more than the ps3, and simply focus less on gimmicks they can get back on top. I'm looking forward to both systems but at end of the day I'm looking forward more to the PS4 and I believe it can triumph over the next Xbox and Wii U and any other competitor.
Microsoft has four pillar franchises: Halo, Gears of War, Forza and Fable. Halo will sell and we have at least two more; Gears might be put on hiatus or it will be milked until serious burnout takes it down; Forza will continue to sell as it should; and Fable looks dead (good riddance in my opinion). Other than that, Microsoft doesn't really have any established 1st party franchises. One might believe Microsoft will have a ton of new, great IP's, but you can't base your opinion solely on mere assumptions with history going mostly against it.
By the way, I think we as gamers will win this generation.
PS is a gaming machine & thats the point of buying consoles.. To play games.. I get that having media options is cool & a great addition but if the console doesnt have gaming at its heart, gamers wont go for it.. MS had a great start with the xbox & xbox 360.. They had exclusive 1st & 3rd party games & thats why i bought them.. MS also gets used to (& still does) get GREAT publisher support, but the last 3 yrs or so most of that ended...
Once EA bought bioware (MS shouldve imo), fable went to $h*t, & they no longer were getting great 3rd party exclusives (tales of vesperia, lost odyssey, elder scrolls, etc) i stopped playing the system.. Sony now has all 3rd party support again on top of great 1st party dev teams so i dont see how MS can possibly defeat them.. The only way i see them coming out on top is if they do something like nintendo did with the wii & make casuals go nutts over; trying to buy the thing because of a cool gimmick.. Other than that, as far as actual GAMING goes, PS is & always will be the name ppl trust for games..