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PS4's Share Button Will Have Limitations, You Can't Upload Whatever You Want

"When Sony unveiled the next generation PlayStation 4 at their February 21st event, they also showcased the new DualShock 4 controller. It was a significant step up from the original DualShock, particularly in the new Share button taking the place of the Select button."

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TacticProductionz1243d ago

Well ofcourse...You not gonna share everything and anything!! That would just be wrong lol.

Rashid Sayed1243d ago

Important point to be noted here is that developers can set restrictions in different sections of the game. In this way they will not allow uploading of those particular sections.

PLASTICA-MAN1243d ago

"For example, on Vita, developers can in certain scenes disable the feature that lets users take a screensho" ?
That's news for me. I didn't know about it. Any example?

-Alpha1243d ago

^ Probably areas where the game reveals spoilers?

Nitrowolf21243d ago

@PLASTICA-MAN

Yep.
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 on the PS Vita

MikeMyers1243d ago

It's going to be hard to think they can actually control this. People have put up the whole game of Heavy Rain on YouTube. We live in the information world full of spoilers.

There are those who get off ruining the experience for others and there are also those who do this stuff accidentally. I can see why they would want to put in restrictions but it still won't work.

creatchee1243d ago

I could see the share functionality disabled or limited in cases of music. Music seems to be a sticking point in relicensing everything from old TV shows to even relatively newer games because it isn't considered part of the work. In some extreme cases, particular songs are replaced, which definitely changes the original feel of something.

Also related, YouTube and other sharing sites mute audio or limit accessibility to videos that contain copyrighted music, so there's that to contend with even past the initial PS4 sharing limitations.

I understand why it's done, but it does kinda suck to have your videos muted or blocked. In my opinion, music will be the biggest factor that affects what is able to be shared.

abzdine1243d ago

Every social media has limitations in terms of online chart and confidentiality.
It is for example not allowed to share some types of videos on YouTube or some types of photos on FB end those boundaries are set by the owner of the service, the same should happen with Sony and share because it is subject to so many standard rules and agreements.

I dont see that as a limitation i see that as a customer and developer protection.

Blacktric1243d ago

"The creator may not want to make video of the final boss sharable, for instance,” Yoshida stated to 4Gamer.net (via Edge)."

"B-but you won't need an HD PVR with PS4."

Told you people to keep dreaming when you were yapping about how the share button was going to make HD PVRs obsolete for most users.

3-4-51243d ago

The best use of this is for GTA5...if it ever gets to this platform...

All the crazy stuff you did others can now see.

I've done way cooler or crazier stuff with friends in that game than 95% of the GTA4 videos I've seen on youtube...

* Find a cool glitch or easter egg ? Instantly uploaded!

Dee_911243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

@MikeMyers Well yea you can work around it using something else other than the share botton.But I think the point of the article was about the share button,not using hardware to record gameplay.As far as they are concerned it will work with the share button.They cant control what you record using something other than the share button.

Looking at that screenshot I can definitely tell PD had some input on the design of the UI.
I cant wait to make my own videos.But I know with this ALOT of gamer channels are about to pop up on youtube when ps4 release lol

BitbyDeath1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

@Blacktric, not many people have a PVR. Infact i don't know anyone who has one.

The share button makes this feature open to everyone.

SilentNegotiator1243d ago

@Blacktric

You sure showed that one guy who said that one thing that one time that you're pretending was some significant sized group.

SLEDGE1242d ago

My guess would not be "Spoilers" but more stuff like nudity, and m+18 stuff.
Or things like the Airport scene in MW2 that was a "OPtional" mission.

@Plastica-man

http://i.imgur.com/Q1dPa.jp... There are ofcourse work arounds :)

But as long as I can put it the HDD and retrive it too my PC, i'd bee happy about it.

ThanatosDMC1242d ago

@plastica-man

Mostly Capcom games doesnt let you take screenshots. Really annoying.

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-Superman-1243d ago

“There will be parts of a game that the maker does not want people to be able to see. For example, on Vita, developers can in certain scenes disable the feature that lets users take a screenshot, and (the Share function) will have a similar mechanism. The creator may not want to make video of the final boss sharable, for instance,” Yoshida stated to 4Gamer.net (via Edge).

Knight_Crawler1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

Wait I am confused... didn't Sony announce that the PS4 would let you live stream your gameplay to your friends ,this way if you were stuck on a level your friends would be able to help you or take over and beat the level for you.

How is live stream gameplay different than the captured card feature that the share button will have - the content that the live stream will show is the same content that the capture card will show so why restrict one and not the other?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

KwietStorm1243d ago

Yep that's a good point. Would kind of be silly if you can live stream but are restricted with what you can record and upload.

MysticStrummer1243d ago

I'd say live streaming to friends who have a PS4 is different than uploading to YouTube or some other site, but I don't know how they'll control one more than the other. There will be ways to work around whatever restrictions they put in.

MonkeyNinja1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

I'm glad they're doing this, because I was worried about spoilers being uploaded from a game.

But this way, users shouldn't be able to upload a video that gives away a major plot point or who the final boss is, etc.

Didn't Sony also say that you could upload videos to Ustream? I don't think they said anything about YouTube, but I could be wrong. I don't think you can upload directly to YouTube through the share button.

Garbanjo0011243d ago

There is a lot of negativity about the share button, and whether it will even be used. Personally, I like the concept. Sharing EVERYTHING is something I don't want to see on my buddies accounts. However, I do want to watch some people rage while killing a shit ton of ghouls on the next fallout.

MYSTERIO3601242d ago

I personally cant wait for the PS4, this news hasn't put a dampener on my anticipation in the slightest. As MS has pioneered the growth of online gaming and apps for consoles i have a feeling Sony will pioneer cross sharing and the user experience in general.

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Arai1243d ago

It's to prevent spoilers in games so the experience isn't ruined for others.
Handy especially if you don't have the game yet, last thing you want is someone to ruin the ending for you.

claterz1243d ago

if you don't want it ruined for you then you don't search for the video. its not like it will just pop up in front of you unexpectedly. Imo this is a pretty big deal as a lot of people were expecting a fully functional built in recording feature to avoid the need of an expensive capture card.

DoomeDx1243d ago

The share button puts everything on your facebook wall. Dont friends love to post spoilers in the title :)

NBT911243d ago

On the WII U, you can upload screenshots etc and just mark any spoilers as spoilers, where they are hidden until one clicks on them.

The reasons that is not ideal is, you don't know how far in the game the post is. It could be the mid way point which you are at, or it could be the ending, no way to know until you click that post, by then it is too late. Plus people just forget to mark them as spoilers a lot of times.

As for your suggestion about only having the level name, even that is still not great. Imagine if MGS4 released on PS4 and people were reading the titles "Act 4 - Shadow Moses", thus it can still reveal a lot about the game.

I think that this way on PS4 is much better. There is no reason to be able to upload ending scenes. I think it is more for sharing goals on FIFA, decent killstreaks in an FPS, hole in one on Tiger Woods, you know the kind of thing? That's what I felt it was being advertised as, not really as a tool for complete playthroughs...

Arai1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

I read about this last night on NeoGAF, there's a whole discussion about it.
To those disagreeing you might actually want to read the original article and this discussion:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

It makes perfect sense, this "article" could use a better title.

@ claterz what about friends sending you a video, you don't know it's content before viewing it.

Nevertheless it's a rough translation, I'm sure we'll get concrete information within the next 7 months.

claterz1243d ago

I see what your saying but using the example you gave, wouldnt't it be easier to have the system add the level of the game in the title of the video? That way you can decide whether or not you want to watch it, and the player can still have some freedom in terms of what they want to record.

baodeus1242d ago

@arai

"@ claterz what about friends sending you a video, you don't know it's content before viewing it. "

If PS4 improve on connection/cross game chat/etc.....it is really that hard to add a spoiler alert/note on video that you send to your friends?

Garbanjo0011243d ago

Exactly. I am seeing a lot of negative posts about the share button. As I said above I like the concept. I don't want to watch the next spoiler of a game I want to play badly. That's just stupid.

jcnba281243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

The Wii U has a function where you can tag your post as a "spoiler" before you post it on Miiverse so people will have the option to view it or not. I'm sure sony will have something similar to this with their sharing options.

mcstorm1243d ago

Lol like how you got some disagrees because you said the Wiiu has a spoiler option. I think your right I see both Sony and Microsoft having options like this on there next consoles.

Dlacy13g1243d ago

I think the disagrees are for Sony having a similar spoiler tag system. Seems like Sony will just let devs block content instead and thus avoid the spoiler issue altogether by controlling what can be recorded.

wishingW3L1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

so basically the share button is useless? Because seriously this kind of kills the point of it.

Dlacy13g1243d ago

Yes and no. Yes from a video upload point of view since it will have limitations but don't forget the share button is most assuredly tied into sharing you screen play..

Dlacy13g1243d ago

Point of clarification. .. the button won't be useless. The recording video will have some limitations so for some that may seem "useless" but there clearly will be more functionality to it regardless.

lodossrage1243d ago

As the article states, the game makers themselves will have the option to pick and choose what can't be shared.

smashcrashbash1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

Exactly. If the developer decides they want to keep certain things from people because of spoilers and such it is up to them not Sony. Once again the blame goes to Sony when it will be the developers who are deciding if they want to do it or not.For example Two Souls which is mostly story based Quantic Dreams might decide not to use the share button at all so everyone can work it out themselves.Others can decide that they don't care what you share and not use it at all therefore no restrictions. Sony is giving them the option and it is not a rule set in stone or Sony's decision. Why is it that Sony haters AND fans over react to EVERYTHING? If a developer wants to keep something from everyone that is up to them and their reasons.You don't read, talk crap, then wonder why you get disagrees

Hicken1243d ago

Basically? How did you even come to that conclusion?

a_squirrel1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

And here I wanted to upload myself dancing naked in front of the TV.
ANOTHER LIMITATION.

Dlacy13g1243d ago

LOL...can we agree that is a good limitation?

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hesido1243d ago

I don't remember them claiming that everything could be shared. Most things will shareable, don't worry. It's for the good of everyone. Those that are really really interested in sharing spoilers can still buy themselves a capture card, if that was your main purpose.

lodossrage1243d ago

They never said EVERYTHING was shareable.

Not just that, if you read the article, the INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS are the ones that make the choice on what they do/ don't allow to be shared.

banjadude1243d ago (Edited 1243d ago )

Besides people not even reading the article, it would seem these trolls have "selective memory" too. SMH.

LoveOfTheGame1242d ago (Edited 1242d ago )

Well in the same sense if PS4 let devs control whether their used games are able to work or not and then say the PS4 plays used games it makes the point moot if most devs make their games unusable if used.

Edit: It won't necessarily be a lie but more a way to cover themselves.