Former Epic designer offers cheers for DualShock 4, jeers for Vita integration and returning IP
He wasn't impressed by Sucker Punch Infamous: Second Son? Lol well I wasn't and never will be impressed by your Gears of War series! Also he don't like the fact that GG showed another Killzone game. Well it looks damn good to me so who cares if its another Killzone? Oh and who says Sony want reveal more new IP at E3? It's not over yet so give them time.
Yeah theres no evidence that Sony is just going to bank on known IP's .I think they used Killzone and Infamous to at least show current fans that their fav series are still coming. Besides, that was 50% of the games Sony showed fom their own studios: the other were new IP's. Additionally, the PSV integration is just an improvement over the current remote play on PSP and PSV... its about helping create an ecosystem which he says is something they need to create. All in all, E3 is where it is going to be about getting the juicy info on a lot of things.
I think they used old IPs to gain an install base on the PS4...once they are out the way (Killzone, inFAMOUS, a new Uncharted, maybe Resistance) then the studios will move onto new IPs. They are basicaly using old IPs aswell to test out the PS4 hardware so there new IP looks even more impressive
Thank you a lot of people including myself would have been a little disappointed if they didn't show something about some of our favorite titles.
@Root. They will carry on using those IP's until they sell no more. IMO Killzone is boring but the fact millions buy it means they will keep making it. New IP's will come from new studios, and currents IP's will remain into production. Another Killzone after shadow fall, another resistance, another lbp.. Theyre great games but for me they dont do it. I like GoW though looks amazing, Id like to see a remake of Zone of Enders and The unholy war.
I dislike this guy. He's arrogant. I dislike him as much as I dislike Jaffe. Too cocky. They play a small roll in a couple popular franchises and think they can strut around like they're the kings of games. They aren't. There are better games by meeker folk, and those are the creators to whose opinions I'll lend an ear.
to Britainz: GG, MM are already working on a new IP. Sony Santa Monica has Stig (director of GOW3) working on something new, maybe GOW in a new mythology, or a new IP. I think Resistance has been shelved for the time being, with Insomniac working on a different games. Naughty Dog maybe has a new IP in works or Uncharted 4 since they have 2 teams working on games. We have yet to hear from many Sony studios, this is just the beginning.
But being real i aggree with him Killzone SF and inFamous Second seemed like games for 2 different consoles... visually it wasn't that impressive but, driveclub, deep down, killzone etc.. damn pure awesome...
Sucker Punch Infamous: Second Son was impressive?? There was no gameplay. Not even for 5 seconds. I wasn't impressed and I like infamous. Why would I be? It seems that if you like 10 sony games but hate one your an xbox fanboy.
http://www.polygon.com/2013... [ The tweet came in response to a comment from Markus St., who wrote "Indeed the new Infamous looks promising can't wait for gameplay footage." "What did you think most of that was," Sucker Punch replied. "We just used [a] different camera to make it more cinematic." ] Every thing in the trailer was all in game with actual game-play. Just shot with a different camera. Just fyi :)
Killzone demo looked amazing but I've never liked infamous to start so even though it looked impressive I'm willing to be it will have the same archaic controls and horrible writing the first two suffered from. As for cliffy B, as far as I look at it he quit the industry so his word is irrelevant. Not that it ment much before, he was a self centered douche bag.
Ok, we must've played two completely different games because Infamous 1 had an amzing story; especially the twist ending. I also don't agree with the archaic controls comment, because every single Rockstar openworld game has similiar controls and their games are always pretty awesome. I definetly agree on the whole Cliffy B being a douchebag though...lol
I'm with him on Infamous. There is no need for a sequel. The last game wrapped it up. No matter which ending you had. I was impressed by the Killzone stuff but I'll wait to see how it actually looks when the game is released. Killzone has been like Crysis to me. Lots of pretty and not much else. I actually don't like the new controller. I think the share feature is interesting but it shouldn't be on the controller. Make it a part of the system or the games like how EA handled social stuff in the Need For Speed and SSX game. Not a button on the controller. To those that said stupid sh*t like 'oh he doesn't like Infamous I don't like gears.' Shut up, if Gears came out on the PS3 today you'd be running to the store to get it. You guys said the same nonsense when Mass effect was 360 only. Then you ran to the store to get it when it came out for PS3. Don't be childish. It's the equivalent of saying 'stop not liking things I like.'
So what the guy can't speak his mind now? I swear u fanboys have child's mentality. If MS showed off a "Knack" type of game you fanboys would be making fun of it. So don't start with the flip flop BS. It's been clear Cliff doesn't like casual type games that's why Gear Of War exile got axed, he doesn't think Kinect is right for his games. @BelowMocha "Sony showed a variety of games that's geared for all ages." MS does the same thing, why is it a problem when they do it? Watch if MS showed one casual title you guys will automatically bash MS. Sony can go casual but MS can't ok that's fair. MS still giving their fanbase hardcore games as well. It doesn't matter if its the same ones people buy it and they like them?
@angel so ratchet & clank,jak &daxter are not similar to knack,Sony showed a variety of games that's geared for all ages.
"So what the guy can't speak his mind now? I swear u fanboys have child's mentality." So Cliff should be able to speak his opinion, but no one should be able to disagree with it? Talk about a childish fanboy mentality. "if MS showed one casual title you guys will automatically bash MS. Sony can go casual but MS can't ok that's fair." One company has focused much more on the casual side of things than the other, and it's clear which is which. If you think no one has the right to point that out, you're wrong. "MS still giving their fanbase hardcore games as well. It doesn't matter if its the same ones people buy it and they like them?" That fanbase likes to play the same games over and over, with minor evolution from title to title. Good for them, but people who like a variety of games with a healthy number of new IPs mixed in have every right to disagree.
@angel ms does have similar game like knack but their focused heavily kinect and pushed some of the their core base away,unless the people are trolling,some fell that they are not balancing the core and casual games they produce.
I'm sorry but two hardcore games every other year(Halo and Gears) is NOT satifying their fanbase. I know because I own a 360 as well as my PS3, and my whole family owns 360's so we're part of their fanbase. Seriously, you're happy with just Gears and Halo? I love the Halo series, but Gears is starting to feel like Guitar Hero(that's why Epic said screw it and let People Can Fly develop it). Also, people better be careful when saying MS brings you Gears of War because we may end up seeing a Gears Of War game on the PS4 since MS doesn't own the franchise Epic does (NOT THAT I WOULD CARE) just like EA owns Mass Effect. Really, all MS has is Halo.
So we must let Cliffy say what he wants and never disagree with him even if he is talking complete crap.Stop the self righteous garbage.Microsoft supporters bash Sony ones no matter what so don't hand me that 'If Microsoft had done this' nonsense.Many of them would have found something to bash them about no matter what. Bet no one would complain if they made Gears of War for the next Xbox AGAIN. No one would be complaining about Microsoft using the same IPs over and over again or Nintendo.When the people that pander to Microsoft start making something else besides the same old stuff they always do then they get to critize.People keep say Watch Dogs was innovative and a breath of fresh air. Why? Because you can control things with a cell phone in a GTA world. One gimmick doesn't make a game innovative.
@Below There's a differemve between "some" people disagreeing and "majority" of the people disagree. "So Cliff should be able to speak his opinion, but no one should be able to disagree with it? Talk about a childish fanboy mentality." @Mystic clever of you trying to use normal logic to cover up your obvious fanboyism, yeah I'm not buying it. Just look at this post? Sony fans callin him a fanboy? Umm he made a hit game called gears, yes but hes a game designer first and damn good one that just so happen to work with MS. His credibility and opinions are WAY better than stupid fanboys.
@ angelic "Sony can go casual" Yeah ever since 1997 they have produced games for ALL ages. Sony hasn't gone anywhere. "but MS can't ok that's fair" OK you see the way MS acted from 2005 (hell even with the first xbox) up until Kinect was annouced has everything to do with this. They were cocky and arrogant and loved to poke on Sony for not providing games for their fanbase (which was understandable since PS3 was just launched). Back then it was "all about games" and they just loved to laugh at Sony due to their win-by-default-situation. Now suddenly when that ended since Sony's "waitstation" (or delaystation) started getting them games and they saw Wii succeed they turned the table completely towards casual market leaving the hc-base dangling in the wind. "MS still giving their fanbase hardcore games as well. It doesn't matter if its the same ones people buy it and they like them? " You see when you accept and actually cheer for this kind of behaviour on a gaming website one would have to think of you as "a tool for the company". Had you commented like this on an investor-related website I'm sure people would be more understanding towards your cause.
MysticStrummer just hammered your nail right on the head. All of his points are valid.
Don't be so unaccepting of others' opinions. Yes, "Killzone: Shadow Fall" technologically looked astounding, but gameplay-wise it did nothing innovative. It's new gameplay mechanics are stripped straight from "Far Cry 3" and "Max Payne". As for "Infamous: Second Son", yes, I'm pumped for a new "Infamous" Instalment, but what was great about that trailer? It wasn't in-game and showed a decent if not somewhat generic concept. Thats my opinion, I'm somewhat looking forwards to "Killzone: Shadow Fall", I'm quite intrigued by "Infamous: Second Son", but mainly due to my admiration of its predecessors, but the standout game for me personally was "Watch Dogs". Why? Because its a breath of fresh air, innovative and original. Childishly belittling critically acclaimed franchises just because you favour the Playstation brand, without offering any justifiable argument is just pathetic...
Right on the money.
btw your opinion is crap and you are doing the same thing. thanks for wasting my time. wait a minute watch dogs is..original? lol
@MetalProxy "Your opinion is wrong" is what you just said. And Watch Dogs really was the most original out of all the games. Hell, I'm hyped for Infamous and KZ but Watch Dogs really takes the cake on originality and being different.
Am I the only one that realizes that I:SS used in-game footage? Really?...*shrug* Do some research before making accusations.
(JamieL grabs Ser by the front of the shirt and starts punching him in the face with strait rights until he is spitting out teeth, and pukeing up all the blood he just swallowed) "I hate when people shrug meekly, it sets me off. Tell the cops I'll be in the bar when they get here." JamieL motions to the bartender, "make it a double" he adds.
@Kratos_kills U didn't read him right, he thought it was fantastic but the brandname should have been changed...his quote:"new Infamous Second Son trailer was extremely exciting. It felt like Watch Dogs Superhero Edition...the “Infamous” brand bummed me out. Infamous games are fantastic but never seemed to sell".. Anyways his comment on the Vita sucks.
Did you actually read what he said? He specifically said that he was really excited by the trailer for Second Son, so yes he WAS impressed. All he said was that he feels it shouldn't have inFamous in the title because the inFamous games didn't sell well at all, and he's right. People who didn't like, or didn't bother with the inFamous games on PS3 will be less likely to embrace Second Son knowing it's another inFamous game. He also never said that Sony wouldn't announce new IP at E3. He was just saying that being a new generation, now is the best time to show new IP's.
So many butt hurt fanboys here.
its clearly you'r a fan boy every body get him...lol could you make it any less obvious Infamous has done what? for gaming mechanics' ill wait mention something of anything significants gears has change shooters as we know it good or bad it has had a huge impact on games as we know it .infamous...? what a about it ..... drop in a big bucket that game looked the worst at the show an if you just saw the video you couldn't tell if you were looking at a knock of of prototype .silences!! inferior fan boy go to you'r room
Man Killzones universe is boring, and the enemies as well. great graphics cant help when a game is no fun. ps4 sounds great but i will wait for microsoft and valve before making a decision. Gears was an amazing game at 1 and 2 but now there is just to many sequels and i cant give in to buying judgment to much of the same thing. Devs need to make something new.
I thought the same thing but judgement is going to be the first gears I buy before a price drop since 1. They are really doing a lot with it.
Agree with choda and Cliffy B, I've played through all the Killzone games and really enjoyed the visuals and the fire fights, they're seriously good games but I've never liked the characters and never cared whether they lived or died. Hopefully the new Killzone will improve on this side of things because besides that they're excellent FPS games.
so it was ok to keep making gears games also did we actually see any gameplay for next infamous? no right so wait and see. dead island had the best trailer ever yet was nothing like the trailer so wait till E3 Killzone will only improve till it comes out, infamous is a day one for me personally. Knack reminds me of ratchet/jak so its a buy for me but would like to find out more wait till E3 when ND will blow the competition out by showing something new or uncharted 4. also till santa monica steps into next gen for me it hasn't begun. GOD OF WAR 3 looks like a CGI trailer throughout like i have said before haters will hate no matter what, and when ms shows their next box which will be all kinect stuff yet these same morons will praise them. psn is free and offering some killer features for ps4 yet xblive is still a paid service why don't i see him complain about that? he act like he was the one who made gears of war and no one else in development teams deserves any credit what so ever sony's world wide studios president said every sony owned studio is working on ps4 titles so yeh i can't complain about a company that actually moves the tech forward while also delivering great content for gamers
someone else who skimmed through the article, didn't read it properly did you? jesus...
Maybe you should read the article before wading in with such an ignorant comment.
What Cliff said was that he loved the Second Son but thought it was a bad move to make it an inFamous title. The inFamous games, while they were very good, did not sell very well and so by putting Second Son in that group, he feels it might not sell well, as well. Get it? Read it again if you like.
Cliff is correct! I can't wait for him to return to gaming!
OMG. I KNOW! Im really sorry to say guys, but the gears series has just been such trash since day one. you wanna talk about not "getting" killzone? if theres one thing i dont "get" its why gears is such a popular series. DOES NO ONE ELSE SEE THAT THIS GAME IS AWFUL?!? oh and i LOL'd so hard when maria died. or whatever doms wifes name is.
HA If Gear is trash Killzone is shit. I never played Gears 2 i watch it on my friends house and i can easily tell you maria's dead is a memorable scene, i seen more video of that dead than i have of any Killzone well except the CGI gameplay one that's a memorable lie actually.
Love it! You trash Gears and then say you "LOL'd so hard when maria died."! This happens a large portion of the way through the second game, you know her name and the secondary character's name which all points to the fact that you have played through the Gears games! Yeah, they're so bad you couldn't put the pad down! How do you not fall down more?
Woo woo calm down there rabid fanboy its ok other people will still like those games. I know its shocking that other people have different opinions, you would think after 15yrs of internet surfing you would know this. I would like to point out... you guys know that Cliff has contributed quite a bit to the gaming world. Like it or not the Unreal engine and GoW have had a impact on the gaming community. Only sonyboys could wet themselves for another generic fps, when you guys decide to grow up the PC world will be waiting for you. Enjoy your mediocre console shooters.
I thought the games were excellent. I would have liked the sucker punch game to drop the infamous in the title. Second Sons is a cool name by itself. But i guess its only a name.
TBH i didnt like either Infamous or Killzone they are terrible games in my eye so i don't really care for those 2 what i like was DriveClub, Destiny and Watch Dogs beside those 3 game everything else was meh to me.
he was saying he wasn't impressed with the branding not the game, i swear most of you guys just skimmed the article. It was completely honest with fair points and there was nothing too negative at all. Stop crying
"He wasn't impressed by Sucker Punch Infamous: Second Son? Lol well I wasn't and never will be impressed by your Gears of War series!"
Wow, maybe you should try reading the article properly before commenting? I can just imagine you scanning the article excitedly as soon as it appeared just to find something negative to say because you obviously don't like Cliffy B. Cliffy B actually said "The new Infamous Second Son trailer was extremely exciting. It felt like Watch Dogs Superhero Edition." Explain how that means he wasn't impressed? And point out where he said there would be no more game announcements, even at E3? How in the name of God did you get a Well Said for that comment?
It's obvious that Sony is saving their best for e3, like they are gonna let Microsoft steal the whole show or something? Also I agree with his Big N remark "Even Nintendo included their proprietary screen in the Wii U. We all want a second screen experience but the problem for everyone making these systems is that we already have that second screen in our Apple/Droid products." but what i dont get is how the ps4 hooking up to all tabs and smart phones is a problem?
The PS3 fanboy.... you gotta hate him!!
@unHoly_One Don't you know by now that N4G is home to some of the most retarded, ill informed Sony fanboys in the entire gaming universe?! N4G is a place where knowledge is non existent and people don't believe what you tell them when you know things! For example, the amount of dislikes on your comment. Cliff's been around for a long ass time.
Great points Bleszinski. Having an apple style ecosystem on PS4 would be awesome. For the whole Knack thing, I'm guessing Sony wanted to tell the audience that PS4 has a broad range of games. I've always loved platformers so I'm excited to see more of Knack.
Wait, don't people on this site rip apart Microsoft and Kinect for showing they have a broad range of games and options for gamers? Is it ok for Sony now?
Like if Kinect games were any good.
"There is never a better time to launch new Intellectual Property in videogames than at a console transition. Gears and Halo 'got' this." Except Halo started on Xbox before moving on to the 360.
halo was a launch title on the original xbox. Although it was microsofts first console, it was still part of a transition into a new console generation.
And gears released a year after the 360.....the 360 didn't launch with gears or Halo........it launched with CoD2 ( not a new ip but it got new life) .....which probably explains CoD success this gen While I agree new IPs are important to console transition.....cliffy would've been better off using examples like Halo and Resistance instead of shoehorning his own game into the conversation
Well I can only speak for myself, but we all saw that amazing Gears Of War footage before the Xbox 360 launched. I was going to wait and see with the 360, but bought one at launch for Gears Of War, which came out 6 months later. You do always want that big new IP at a transition, Halo, Gears and hopefully something big from Black Tusk. Sony does the same thing, launched with Resistance.
It makes sense. If you can make a great game at launch, new IP or not, you are guaranteed sales. It may ad well be a new IP though as they are more risky, financially.
@Jek_Porkins but GeOW came out a whole year after the launch of the X360 not 6 months after.
What a whiner. even his complements are annoying.... "saying it appeared to have more comfortable thumb sticks than its predecessors" really?, the convex thumsticks were uncomfortable? I never bought the argument that concave thumbsticks fit the thumb better. How about when you aim up or down, your thumb only has the edge of the stick to hold on to. Im happy sony just made a mixture of the two for the ps4 though, so that nobody complains.
Take a breather fanboy, he never said they were UNCOMFORTABLE, he just they are MORE comfortable. I loved my 2003 civic, but my new 2013 civic has more comfortable seats. See where I am getting at? I feel like people on this site think everyone is out against Sony. Sheesh.
The only problem with your car analogy is that Blezsinski hasn't actually driven the 2013 civic but has only seen a picture of it and thus concluded that it is more comfortable (and thats his actual complement to the ps4).I see that as a direct attack to convex thumbsticks so you can call me a convex controller fanboy instead to still keep it easy for you to understand. Thanks for telling me to take a breather because oxygen provides 70% of the energy my body uses. Also im quite content with the ps4 concave/convex controller.
You're doing the same thing you hypocrite. You are saying he hasn't used the PS4 and made a judgement on it. You haven't used the PS4 either and say you like the PS4 concave/convex controller. It's the same damn this he did yet people get mad (like you) because you think he was bashing the PS3's controller. It's an opinion, everyone is allowed to have it. Also, how are you 100% sure he hasn't gotten his hands on a dev. kit or played around with the controller?
he's team xbox, no suprise here
Cliff is al little xbox fanboy !
Never really liked Cliffy.
Cliff is lead engineer of the dudebox 720 the console with only dudebro games. List of games Bros of duty Dudes of war war of the dudes dudebros evolved bro effect dude nukem for never now with more embazzelment.