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Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - 'Styles' instead of Paradigms, story to be complete w/o DLC

In Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, you do not have Paradigms to shift into. Instead, you create various “Styles” that you switch during combat, each style comprising of a weapon, a shield, accessories and abilities you set beforehand.

The new combat system with Styles does not have an official name yet, but is tentatively called “Amazing ATB (temporary name)”.

Apparently it’s called that because the new combat system is basically derived from the classic Active Time Battle system, except now you take direct control of your character in terms of movement and pressing buttons for commands.

Square Enix is also stressing that, unlike Final Fantasy XIII-2, this time around the story will be complete within the confines of what’s on the game retail package, meaning you won’t have to buy DLC to see the end of the story.

They're also promising that fans of characters from the previous FF13 games will be happy with those characters’ stories in this new title, that loose ends will be tied up.

TemplarDante4570d ago

"Final Fantasy XIII -
'Styles' instead of Paradigms, story to be
complete w/o DLC
In Lightning Returns"

Obviously, there will be bikinis or skimpy attire DLC, right Square Enix?

I just hope FFVersus hasnt been canned.. Lightning and her saga can gtfo.

Hingle_Mcringleberry4570d ago (Edited 4570d ago )

SE are horrible game makers but they'll make Versus perfect somehow using PS3's pixie dust and Unicorn magic - N4G logic. @godmars: What makes Versus their last chance? This, mind you, even before anybody has had the chance to play Lightning Returns. Who's to say this game isn't a return to form?
I just get so tired of people ragging on XIII series and then in the same breath declaring how awesome Versus is going to be based on a couple of screenshots and one or 2 trailers.

Godmars2904570d ago (Edited 4570d ago )

At this point its more like Square Enix's last chance to prove they have any ability on par with Squaresoft with a new take on a FF, rather than the re-retreads of 13 and failures of FF12 and 10-2.

@Kamikaze135:
That's because they pulled that crap with 13-2.

They were proud they pulled that crap with 13-2!

Godmars2904570d ago

Who said Versus was awesome? At this point I'd be surprised its at least enjoyable if not steeped in pointless melodrama with a couple of forced bemused scenes.

Hell, I very much doubt its still exclusive if it even still being worked on.

R6ex4570d ago (Edited 4570d ago )

Exactly!

Versus isn't even being released. Who knows, it may be worse than FF13?

So just enjoy FF13 or just stay away from it. No point ranting and comparing it to an unreleased game.

Godmars2904570d ago

Besides warning off Square from making the mistakes they did with 13 you mean.

If they're able to correct those mistakes that is.

izumo_lee4570d ago

I believe people are saying FFvs.13 is going to be better than the FF13 main series cause of the development team responsible in making the game.

Nomura's track record is much more impressive than Toriyama's. He is a better story writer, better game designer & better director than Toriyama. I say this cause it was Toriyama's horrible writing in the 3rd Birthday that almost killed the Parasite Eve franchise.

I have more faith in Nomura delivering a better game. He co-wrote FF7, created the Kingdom Hearts franchise, created the Dissidia series, & was the creative mind for FF Type-0.

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Mister4284570d ago

I hope so... the only DLC I bought for XIII-2 was the bikini costume lol!

Kamikaze1354570d ago

I find it sad that they even have to mention the story can be completed without DLC.

kagon014570d ago

That is why avoided the ff xiii saga. SE please die...

Xklaw4570d ago

These are dark times we´re living in the gaming world, with all these DLC BS. But square enix has taken that shit to a new low. And the worst thing is, people still bought an incomplete game. Old school FF gamers don´t like FFXIII (in general), and new gamers that FFXIII is trying to please got screwed with FFXIII-2. I really don´t know who would want this game to come out

N4GDgAPc4570d ago

actually the game was complete. It finished the story of sarah and Neol. Dlc just gave u a look on what happened to lightning before she crystalized. And dlc is very short so its not like anyone is missing anything important it still ended the same way the game did. Lightning crystalizes.
And by the way DLC helps developers. Its not like the ps2 days where games cost a hell lot cheaper. Developers have to sale quadruple amount of copies to equal what they get back in money in ps2 days. Thats why crap load of studios are shutting down. It cost to munch to make AAA games. Why u think we haven't seen much new ip's this gen. Because they don't want to take the risk of a failure and go with something that they know sales. Matter what people say Lightning Returns will make profit. Its just not going to be as close as FF13.

PooEgg4570d ago

"These are dark times we´re living in the gaming world, with all these DLC BS."

AGREED!

Though it really isn't just Square Enix, because EA, Capcom, and numerous other gaming companies are just as bad.

But as much as we hate it, I don't see it changing anytime soon, because for every gamer who is smart enough to say "No friggen way" to a subpar gaming experience and overpriced crappy DLC, their is a gamer who actually likes subpar games and doesn't mind wasting their money on overpriced crappy DLC.

So the rest of us just have to shake our heads at the idiocy and know when to walk away from a dying series.

DEATHxTHExKIDx4570d ago

I just hope I can get a proper ending I can enjoy....and kick caius ass one more time if he's still around.

MizTv4570d ago

I will believe it when I see it

delboy4570d ago (Edited 4570d ago )

Wow,i can now complete the story without buying dlc.
Which genius at SE came up with that idea,it's mindblowing.
They need to advertise it more, it's a groundbreaking concept.
What do I get if I preorder right now? Lol

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It Shouldn't Take Expedition 33's Success to Remind Square Enix That Turn-Based Still Sells

TNS: Expedition 33 was the wake-up call Square Enix needed, telling it turn-based RPGs are still popular, but that shouldn't have been the case.

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Relientk775d ago

True, but if it does get it through their thick skulls, then that works.

Although, the Dragon Quest 1 + 2 HD remakes will be turn-based and (the worst kept secret) Final Fantasy IX remake should be turn-based I would imagine. Let's see if any newer games go turn-based too.

thorstein5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

DQIII HD Remake was turned based and very successful. Then there was a really obscure turn based game came Balder's Gate 3. I heard it might have done well.

Profchaos4d ago

I wouldn't be shocked if they switched ff to the vii remake combat system

PapaBop4d ago

It won't get through to them though, despite E33's success, they still won't risk going fully turn based for their big budget projects simply because they are still in the mindset that it needs to be action combat to appeal to the mainstream audience. I hope I'm wrong but don't underestimate just how stubborn Japanese execs can be

barom4d ago

Ya'll are hyping up Expedition 33 too much. Reminder that FF XVI sold 3 million in a week and it took Expedition 33 approximately a month to get to that (33 days to reach 3.3 million).

barom3d ago

1 platform vs 3 platforms
1 week vs 1 month

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DivineHand1255d ago

While it is true that Sqaure Enix has moved away from turn based games compared to how they were in the past, there is a good reason for it.

Older gamers will know this but during the ps2 era, we were flooded with turned based games from Japanese studios and this created a form of fatigue back then going into the next generation.

When Square released FF13, they received heavy criticism for making the game turned based like every other FF game and not doing enough to innovate. This is why they made FF15, FF7 Remake and FF16 have real time combat. It gave the series a fresh spin and has brought in new fans to the series.

I personally would be happy with either turned based FF or the real-time combat version we see today.

Shane Kim5d ago

Remake and Rebirth have "turn based" if you set it in the settings.

Lexreborn25d ago

Dang wish I saw your post before I made mine because we definitely feel the same way lol

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Yeah hit the nail on the head but its like ww2 games we get hundreds of them then a decade of nothing and people start missing them i think we're going to start seeing them return

Claire, dragon quest even yakuza have seen turn based return

Runechaz4d ago

Every Pokémon game is also a Turn Base RPG.. and selling millions

andy855d ago

Only need to look at their own game DQ 11 approaching 10 million to show there's a market. And that's not as big of a name as FF

Runechaz4d ago

you can also look at the Pokemon game number

Tacoboto5d ago

Another article about Expedition 33 and Square Enix and turn-based games? This is starting to sound like propaganda.

The game didn't sell because it's a turn-based game; it sold and is enjoyed because it's a really freaking good game that released completed at a good price without gamer drama attached to it. No Mtx, no wait-until-it's-patched, minimal bloat, a self-contained story, no multiplatform BS. Just a solid original game that absolutely nails what it intended to do.

Redemption-645d ago

I was just about to say the same thing.

anast5d ago

This comment should have a 100 upvotes, at least.

CrimsonWing695d ago

Maybe try actually listening to the fans who have supported the series for decades. This habit of ignoring your core audience just to chase people who were never interested in Final Fantasy in the first place makes no sense. And when that approach fails, doubling down on it is beyond baffling.

The battle system has never been the main reason non-FF or non-JRPG players stayed away. Gutting the series’ identity to chase a broader market doesn’t attract new players. It just alienates the loyal ones.

Keep going down this road and we’ll end up with Final Fantasy Fortnite abomination or a F2P Battle Royale game.. Oh wait…

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Final Fantasy IX 25th Anniversary Lottery Announced

Do not miss the Final Fantasy IX lottery commemorating its 25th anniversary and see the new merch release by Square Enix.

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jznrpg24d ago

It would be nice if they had the lottery in other parts of the world as well.

CrimsonWing6923d ago

I’m hoping Xbox Showcase will be where the Remake gets announced… freaking all this stuff with FF9’s anniversary and still nothing on the Remake…

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Square Enix Sales Drop but Profits Grow as it Aims to Shift from Quantity to Quality

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franwex47d ago

If Capcom managed to turn things around, I’m hoping that Square can too!