Five reasons why Vista beats Mac OS X

The conventional wisdom, that Mac's OS X is superior to Windows Vista, is flat-out wrong. In fact, despite much belief to the contrary, Vista is a superior operating system. Here are five reasons why.

[TheWiseguy]

worst 5 reasons ever. Steve Jobs, Safer, runs more software???? OSX runs Windows natively...thats too bad for microsoft..makes most of this list entirely moot. P.S. iMacs are pretty damn cheap for what you get, as are macbooks....:(

[Amanosenpai]

Reason 5: Steve Jobs....

OMG i just can imagine 3 options of why he wrote that:

1) No more reasons

2) He is a complete A$$...

3) Bill Gates

^_^

[PR0F3TA]

Reason 5 - Steve Jobs "don't give him more money"

oh yeah... Bill really needs it more then Steve, he only has 100 cars and Steve has 200... how unfair of him

/sarcasm

[MicroDeath SoftStar]

i got both and i got to say he has a point BUT osx is still better by a mile, reason you may as? well its the sum of all part which really counts and the way osx works and integrates with everything i do is pure awesome compared to anything Microsoft make . Ohh and did i mention that there computers may not be the most powerful but there os runs like greased lighting as long as you have enough ram , you cant say the same for vista

[Kakkoii]

PR0F3TA: Bill Gates may be rich.. But what you don't seem to know is that Bill Gates donates billions of dollars to charities.

So money to Bill Gates is better spent then Money to Steve Jobs.

[Kakkoii]

Lol wow, 7 disagrees?

There must be alot of Bill Gate haters here. Or people think i'm making that up..

I'm not making it up.. Go do some damn searching and you'll find out that Bill Gates does donate a hell of a lot of money to charity regularly.

[ChickeyCantor]

var " P.S. iMacs are pretty damn cheap for what you get, as are macbooks....:(
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XD

[wallace1000]

You are right dude. The Bill & Melinda Gate Foundation is the world's largest charity. They started that charity with $126 million of their own money, it is worth about $34 billion now. Not sure why you got so many disagrees.

[MEGANE]

vista beats windows 3.1

[Amanosenpai]

3.1 was a great OS for its time... Vista NOT

[mirroredderorrim]

I agreed with you. Bill Gates move to complete Philanthropist has put him on another level than Steve Jobs. Gates doesn't work at MS anymore, he only advices him from the info I've read. He also owns shares in the company's stock.

But is he a BIG player in Microsoft anymore? No. He's just a big player in life now. :)

[Thoas]

Vista is a joke and a wanna be Mac Os X Tiger

[dktxx2]

How is vista a Os X wannabe? It came out before Os X.

[Kaneda]

OS X released 6 years ago...

[Thoas]

Mac OS X Tiger came out before Vista. Vista came out before Mac Os X Leopard. Do your homework next time before you post.

[jackdoe]

Lol. I've never used OS X, but I have used Vista, and I have to say its stability issues pissed the hell out of me. It is NOT a good OS.

[ErcsYou]

IF vista is so much better than Mac OSX then why are people downgrading there OS to XP and ranting and raving over the internet about all of its major flaws?.... i dont hear anybody crying about MAC osx..

OSX wins because its more "stable"... i havent turned off my mac in over a year " it goes to sleep" and i only reset the system when prompted by a new software install...no freeze's, no problems...on 24/7 with zero issues...can any PC in the world running windows say that?

[MicroDeath SoftStar]

you can do that with windows , just make sure you dont touch it for a year while its on . haha

[mirroredderorrim]

I agree, man. And bubble for hitting home with me, cause I gave away my copy of Vista Ultimate to my g/f.
I'm bound to pick up 3 copies of XP professional since I hear they are discontinuing them soon.

[Gondee]

Because people love to hate it. So many people say bad things about it that the first time somebody gets an error there like "OMG, VISTA, YOU CAUSED MY SOFTWARE TO CRASH" or "OMG, THIS GAME ISNT WORKING"
If the case may be vists fault, wich some times it is. Then it has a reason and it prompts you. When games dont work in vista its the creators fault. NOt slamming them or anything, but its there responsiablty to make stable software to run in the vista enviroment. That ofcourse only goes for newer software.

Im tired of poeple complaing, stuped things like Youtube crashed my firefox, vistas fault.

/vent ( not even gona spell cheak it -_-)

[Kakkoii]

Yeah. XP had a lot of issues just like Vista when it first came out.. But as more updates came, XP grew to be the best OS. People just want perfection right out of the box, Which in reality it should be, before they release an OS.

But that doesn't dispute the fact that it is a good OS, it just needs some upgrades still.

And these days, the internet has become bandwagon central.. As soon as something like.. VISTA SUCKS BLAH BLAH, starts.. People start jumping on the hate Vista wagon and it has a domino effect, making it seem worse then it really is.

It's what happened with HD-DVD. It's sad that this happens.

[IntelligentAj]

I think he means to say in a business setting, and even then his reasons really aren't that strong, though I've seen very few businesses running Mac OS X. Though XP is much more dominant than Vista.

[SiLeNt KNighT]

i agree that vista is a better OS, but this article sounds like the guy has something personal against steve jobs. vistas security is really good, doesnt mean OS X is bad. the hacking contest was kinda bogus imo. stop the vista hating, just get a good computer and it runs perfect. i havent had one problem yet.

[hfaze]

I will say that I was rather pleasantly surprised at how well Vista Ultimate runs on my iMac (with 4GB of RAM). I have a copy of Vista Ultimate that I got shortly after launch, but it ran like absolute crap on my "Vista Ready" Acer Aspire 5670 laptop, so I never activated it.

I fired up Boot Camp and installed Vista on an 80GB partition, and it runs beautifully. I haven't done much with Vista other than install Office 2007 and some game demos, but it worked really well.

I primarily use OS X Leopard though. I love the fact that it's essentially BSD UNIX with an extremely friendly GUI. And the fact that Macs are amazing for audio work (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc.)

Both OS'es are good, but OS X Leopard just seems like a more fine-tuned OS. It ran like greased lightning with just 1GB of RAM, can't say the same for Vista... Although Vista on the right hardware is pretty cool.

[Shadow Man]

Wow everybody hates Vista. I haven't try vista but I waiting for
Windows 7.

[psnDevistator356]

Wont say vista beats it, but xp kicks its asss!

[dexterwang]

Don't like the Vista vs OSx reasons but my following reasons for
why PC BEAT THE CRAP out of Macs

1. More software. period. I use alot of small programs here and there, like daemon tools, win rar, bit comet and a TON more. Nope not on Macs

2. Upgradibility. Need more ram? or a better video card? PC easy peasy just go to the local comp store and buy. Macs... SHIET gotta research which things actually works with this damn thing, not to mention the extra price

3. Price. I can go out and build a nice gaming pc for 500-600$. Wait can you even build a mac? I would actually like to know

4. Usability. This might be a personal thing. 1 button mouse = suicidally retarded. Also Pc is easy to troubleshoot and custimize, Macs sacrificed too much to be asthetically pleasing.

5. Games. Save the best for last. Don't even have to say anything here

Mac supporter say Ha you can just use boot camp if you want to run your windows programs... I reply please name one thing that I can do on a Mac that I can't do on a PC. So why they heck would I even use a Mac? Save yourself a grand and get a better computer. Afraid of viruses on the PC? stop going to random porn warez sites or opening up retarded emails.

Macs only wins in looks. And maybe steve jobs... seems like a cool guy

[PR0F3TA]

surf the web without an Anti-Virus...

so do i win anything?

[Archaeox]

PC's are more common, that's why!

I only use PC because

1. Im used to the interface
2. My computer came with it

But I have to agree on one thing, why won't Apple let other companies pre-boot OSX on their computers?

[Kakkoii]

PR0F3TA: That's only because Internet Explorer sucks.

Use Firefox on Windows like most people and you don't need a anti-virus program.

Most virus's are targeted towards Windows because hackers know Windows machines are owned by the majority. It's a smart choice. If Mac was the majority, it wouldn't have the aesthetic it has now. Would be flooded with viruses also.

[dexterwang]

Agreed with Kakkoii. Use Firefox.
IE is just craving for a beating.

I'm on a laptop that I've used for a year without anti-virus. And my system is fairly clean. Just know when to click no and what not to open and your safe. Though given I know a bit more about computers than the average joe.

Though to be fair I do have an ibook for 4 years and it never had a virus... but my frustrations with it is why I'm so anti mac today

[IntelligentAj]

Nah ya'll are buggin. I use Firfox and NoScript but I still have AVG and ZoneALarm just in case. You can never be too safe.

[PR0F3TA]

Kakkoii - even with FireFox i don't recommend you surf the internet.

also, i can surf the net right out the box... can't really say the same about Vista. So many permission windows pop up left and right it gets annoying. I know its for security proposes but it makes it so that vista doesn't even trust me

[Kakkoii]

That's because a high percent of the people using Vista don't know much about computers.. (e,g: People's mom's most likely.)

lol.

It's gotta do that for the people don't know know a whole lot.

And I have no anti-virus programs and i've always been fine. You just need to be a smart surfer.

[uie4rhig]

Ok now those are real reasons, not the ones the that guys said .. they are complete bullshit!!

Reason #1: Vista runs more software
Runs more software as in has more software, ok fine, but if he means runs more software at once, highly doubt it..

Reason #2: Vista is safer
How is it? that guy from the hackers contest had already hacked it, and just downloaded the stuff from some random server using safari..

Reason #3: It's the money, stupid
erm vista and mac machines go to around 1k... (here in UK that is).. so i don't get where you got that bullshit

Reason #4: The Mac is closed; Vista is open
Trust me, real pc-builders are pc gamers, and they all know that XP is better for gaming in performance ;)

Reason #5: Two words -- Steve Jobs
lol wut? if this was a 'Why mac is better than vista' it could be just as wel "Two words -- Bill Gates".. FAIL!!!

greeetzz

[mirroredderorrim]

I don't know much about Macs, but what I know... is that Imacs are the only thing that can be upgraded, I think the highest end model, and that's not the worst part, the worst part is you can ONLY upgrade the ram, since it's the only thing not built into the MB.

[hfaze]

1. More software. period. I use alot of small programs here and there, like daemon tools, win rar, bit comet and a TON more. Nope not on Macs

Let's see... In MacOS, you can open ISO files by just double clicking it, or there's an opensource app that will let you do it. There are multiple RAR utilities for the Mac. And there are LOTS of BitTorrent clients for the mac.

2. Upgradibility. Need more ram? or a better video card? PC easy peasy just go to the local comp store and buy. Macs... SHIET gotta research which things actually works with this damn thing, not to mention the extra price

While your arguments were valid back in the PowerPC Mac days, that's not necessarily true with the Intel Macs. It only cost me $80 to upgrade my iMac to 4GB of RAM. The only real hardware limitation with MacOS is whether or not the hardware has drivers for OS X.

3. Price. I can go out and build a nice gaming pc for 500-600$. Wait can you even build a mac? I would actually like to know

While I do agree that Macs are on the pricy side, you do pay for design quality. Macs are shipped with components that work perfectly with each other. Anyone that has built PC's, especially when trying to minimize cost, has run into hardware combinations from hell.. Components that just flat out do not work well with each other.

And technically you can build an Intel PC compatible with MacOS X, you just have to use a hacked installer that will install on non-Apple hardware... ;-)

4. Usability. This might be a personal thing. 1 button mouse = suicidally retarded. Also Pc is easy to troubleshoot and custimize, Macs sacrificed too much to be asthetically pleasing.

Well, the Apple "mighty mouse" that came with my iMac is technically a three button mouse... When I'm booted into Vista, clicking the right side of the mouse does bring up the context menu, and pressing down the mini trackball while clicking works like clicking the scroll wheel on a standard PC mouse.

And PC's being easier to troubleshoot? I had a Dell PowerEdge 1800 at work that wouldn't install Windows 2003 Server SP2 for anything... It kept saying that it could not contact the cryptographic service in the beginning of setup... And all of Microsoft's articles on service pack troubleshooting took me on a wild goose chase. It turned out that it needed a BIOS update to resolve the issue. All computers do weird crap from time to time...

5. Games. Save the best for last. Don't even have to say anything here

Yep, you definitely have a point there... That's why I have Vista installed on it's own partition... ;-)

[dexterwang]

@unixphreak1911

Agree that Macs have better design quality and build... Mac air is simply sick (My personal experience with apple products isn't great, however, ibook- keyboard malfuntion after a year, ipod nano-track pad stopped working after a year also... but I think I'm just bad luck)

However Mac is just such a headache to deal with. Yes there are complement programs you can find on macs, but often they aren't as good as the PC counterpart. I use daemon tools for a reason (cd-mount hiding tech *cough), and regular programs I like to use like win-amp, adware, bit comet I'd have to search for something to replace with. In summary, basically 99% of programs I can find on the net can work in windows, while maybe 10% works for mac. Why limit your choices?

Also when I mention upgrading I mean cpu, videocard, sound card, motherboard etc. Which I don't think is possible for most macs (correct me if I'm wrong, I'd actually like to know)

Windows does have it share of problems, but it simply feels more functional. I find it that most people who uses macs know less about computer in general (no offense meant at all, just not a platform for gamers and programmers) and uses it basically more for everyday browsing, image editing and typing. I love the design platform, but apple really need to open up and allow macs to run exe. files natively.

Like I said before, I ask Mac users to name things they can do on Macs that they can't do on windows and they go silent. I can name a few things the opposite way around.

[Bonsai1214]

rebuttal time..
1. you can run vista or xp natively on a mac.
2. that recent contest needed a script to be downloaded and installed before the hack actually worked.
3. true the machine costs more, but the quality of parts and power you get is much better. plus leopard is only ~100 bucks. vista is 300
4. you're running out of reasons if you need to say this one. Jobs has said that apple is foremost a software company. by keeping their system closed, they can control the hardware and maximize profit for themselves. its good business.
5. you've run out of ideas. jobs is infinitely more entertaining than any microsoft exec.

edit, he also compares security to 10.4 wuss

[Archaeox]

I never knew you could run XP or Vista on a Mac

[Bonsai1214]

yeah, bootcamp. great feature if you want to play games, but don't wanna worry about the hassle of spyware or viruses.

plus you can run os x on windows with hackintosh or vmware

[Kakkoii]

Higher quality parts?

What the hell are you talking about.

Mac and PC's use the same parts. The only difference in Mac's do them "integrated" style so you can't customize.

PC's use the highest quality consumer parts on the market.. (Nvidia/ATI, Intel/AMD, Kingston, etc..)

[Archaeox]

Is that even legal?

[IntelligentAj]

Spyware and Viruses are only hassles if you don't protect yourself and watch what sites you go to. Ignorance isn't bliss.

[Frances-the-Mute]

5 reasons? give me 50 reasons why i should believe this!

[Kakkoii]

If you actually read the 5 Things. You would have seen what he said. Those things are fact.

1) Vista Runs more Software.

This is true.. Everyone knows that. And if you don't know that then you don't know much about computers.

2) Vista is safer

For that one, there is no true answer out there. Only people who believe this or that. That's why he put the quote from the hacker who hacked the Mac. You can find the story of the hacker tournament through google.

3)PC is cheaper.

This is true. Low end and high end computers are cheaper if you buy them PC and not Mac. This if fact, look around, do some searching and you'll see for yourself.

4)Mac is closed.

This is also based on FACT. Look around, do some searching and you'd know that.

5.) Steve Jobs is vindictive.

Just look at the latest news on Steve Jobs... He's sueing NYC for using an Apple type logo... Seriously he needs to chill. I admit, he makes nice looking products.. But as a person and his tactics in marketing make me have a strong dislike for him.

[Fanboy Slaughter]

I kinda believe your reasons, Kakkoii, like more software and cheaper has ALWAYS been true. And yeah, Steve Jobs, while a master marketer and company savior, is a little too high strung for this day and age. And while Vista may be safer, it doesn't make it any less of a pain in the ass to use.

[Frances-the-Mute]

only joking guys, im a vista/xp owner...but to me these kind of things dont matter

[IzKyD1331]

that guy really needs to get his head out of bill gate's ass........

[Fanboy Slaughter]

Sounds Like somebody has it out for Jobs.

I'll level with everybody. I was a Mac-raised computer user. My mother was one of those militant Apple soldiers that would drop a lead weight on her foot before using a PC. And my old Power Mac 6100 far outlasted any other computer I had ever owned (I got the 6100 in '95, and used it until '02). And back in the day, Mac had GREAT games, (anyone remember MacAddict? and the CD that came with it?), it only got better with the iMac, but as time went on, Apple got REAL expensive.

Anything other than the iMac was ridiculously over-priced, Mac OS underwent a DRASTIC change with OSX that any classic Mac OS user didn't really like, and then the final nail in the coffin was the Intel Mac. And that's when the war was lost, and the Mac soldiers, though they fought valiantly, had lost to the Intel Beast. As entertaining as those hardcore Apple users were, it was for the best.

I still have my old iMac running Mac OS 8.6, but I just keep it for old games and nostalgia. You never forget your roots.

[hfaze]

I can see where you're coming from, but I LOVE my Intel iMac. And I have long said that if Apple was to release a version of OS X that ran on regular PC hardware that it would be a huge hit.

I'm actually glad that they started using Intel hardware. IBM wasn't keeping up with Intel performance-wise... Although a Cell based Mac would have been VERY interesting... :-)

[Fux4Bux]

Seriously what awful reasons. Pretty much the sole reason I'm forced to use Vista is gaming.

[TurdStationPee]

Vista rules. XP and OSX suck.

[PSMonster21]

Lol...People who say Vista is better than OSX are just as retarted as people who say the 360 is better than the ps3. Both are living in denial. HAHAHA.

[GutZ31]

I'll stick with XP and linux, and maybe OSX when vista is the only thing on the cheap with software working for it, then mac, here I come!

[Ludwig]

Apple is communism for computers, damm you hippies .. can't you see Steve Jobs is a complete dictator? it took years for Mac users to be allowed to change their own wallpapers..

[Dirty Deacon]

This guy is either a) mentally retarded or b) working for Microsoft. Some would say those two things are same. If I had the desire or money to blow on a gaming rig, which I don't (or just a rig that runs Vista right) I would build a Win/PC, but that would be the only reason I would venture back into Microsoft products. In my world though, I need to work and I need a computer to do that work on and I purchased a Mac Pro just for that reason. OS X is revolution in workflow and ease of operation. It functions in a way that makes sense to regular human thought and never compromises my creativity or project focus with drivers conflicts, system errors, incompatibilities, resource hogging, or lame window management. I love that its not "open", I love that I don't have to worry about Malware. I love that my Mac was designed and crafted by Apple with one purpose..... To make my life and work easier. If I felt that Microsoft was going the same direction I would think about there offerings. But that is not the case. I'n my opinion, owning a Vista PC is a form of sadomasochism and I refuse to play along anymore.

[Ludwig]

Totalitarian dictators also design the system to make your work easier, at first.

The apple government thinks you are too stupid to pick your own hardware.

[Dirty Deacon]

Did you build your car? or did the car company decide what parts would be best for you?

[Ludwig]

In apple's comunism, you can only get to choose from the 2 or 3 cars they want you to choose .. I can pick any of hundreds of good and bad models as freely as I want in the free world.

Hitler had the "people's car" it was cheap and powerful compared to ours, but it was the only one you could choose.

[Dirty Deacon]

If Apple is so "Totalitarian" then why did Microsoft get slapped with an Anti-trust suit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Mac Pro would be more like the people's Lexus friend. Dell would be the people's car

I say technological Fascism rocks as long as I get my work done and make money

sehnen sich Phasenapfel

[Ludwig]

Apple continously inventend new plugs, file formatations, protocols, movie formats and media standards saying it was because those were better systems, but the sole purpose was to keep the poor apple people isolated from the world...

Making you all believe in this fiction villan of the evil "imperialists"...

[Dirty Deacon]

Hmmm

[Ludwig]

While I do agree microsoft charge a lot and most of times you are cornered to pick windows instead of anything else, that's how our free world is so far, we all are cornered to play the north american globalization model, to export/import through them using the dolar exange, but the truth is that most of the world economy run independent from them, without their control .. much like windows.

With mac, you are giving away your freedom for paranoid safety and superficial comfort, if they were the big dogs here, it would be MUCH worst.

No System is perfect, but go look up Steve Jobs internal politics towards his own employees...

[Dirty Deacon]

Brother, I didn't post here to debate theoretical power struggles and culture globalization. Thats neither here nor there. None of your blathering has anything to do with an operating system being superior over another. I posted here today to say that yes OS X is better in my opinion. Take your shtick somewhere else, I'm not in the market for crazy at this time.

[flappo]

you're obviously a complete moron

vista is garbage

os-x is vastly superior in every way

[flappo]

vista's not even better than panther let alone tiger

and as for leopard

give me a friggin break

ms copy , apple innovate

and they can't even copy well...

[flappo]

@krackheadlolli

macs have no options?

you've obv. never used a mac pro , dimwit

as for software choice

a mac can run linux , os-x and vista oh and xp

what pc can do that , eh ?

pc's are cheaper ?

to buy , maybe - to run - no way

you have fun with your extended warranties and hidden service charges , unreliability of hardware and software

me?

i've had macs since 1992 , been through the lot from a mac lc2 to a quadra to ibook , macbook , 2 powerbook g4s , 3 imacs and now a mac pro

and called an engineer out once

to fix an apple lasewriter

nuff said

[Jen5en]

Funny how pretty much everything "revolutionary" in Vista is ripped off from OSX. Widgets... sorry, I mean Gadgets, the search bar, live video in the taskbar etc. Currently, I am dual booting between Vista and Ubuntu, the only purpose Vista serves is gaming, everything else I browse with Ubuntu.

[Guardian0fPeace]

Vista sucks, I've had it, microsoft had it working pretty decently months ago and then recently it starts lagging my quadcore 4gb ram machine like its on 32mb ram. I UPGRADED it to XP!!!!!!!

The only thing Vista has to offer over any operating system is unmatched security, but if that means an extreme drop in perfromance, it's not worth it, least not to me.

Performancewise, Vista is pathetic, end of story, that's it, goodbye, THE END!!!

[anh_duong]

i purchased two copies of vista and have been using them (it's not bad) but to say that vista beats osx is a bit far fetched when you know that microsoft is very close to dumping vista.. i.e. vista will be replaced in 2009 and won't be supported by ms within 2/3 years.

[zonetrooper5]

Hmm I would rather use Linux and Windows over OSX everyday of the month for this year and every year. I know I will get disagrees from the Mac users because all they have is an overpriced computer which is controlled by Apple and has less Hardware and software support.

Also, its cheaper to build a good PC then buying a prebuilt PC or Mac. I can upgrade my PC at anytime unlike the Mac and I have all the software and hardware support that the Mac does not have. Also , whats the point in buying a Mac and then dual booting?

You might as well get a PC and copy of Windows for cheaper lol. Enjoy wasting your money.

[zonetrooper5]

XP > Vista > Linux > OSX

Lol at Applefags...

[PSMonster21]

You my friend must be on kush if you think XP or Vista is better than OSX.

[Ballistic Jay]

You got it right that xp is better than vista, seeing as its actually COMPATIBLE with anything, but i say Mac OS is better because its interface is easier and the system is smarter.

[s1lens3]

I'd just say that the OSX operating system is smart, useful and stable.

I got Vista last month and was seriously thinking of going back to xp but I'll give it a chance until the next service pack because it's pretty and I don't want to spend money on XP, but the Windows explorer crashes often and most of my apps run very slow compared to my 5 years old xp. The Flip3d is worthless compared to exposé and the scroll button on dual screen just work in one side, is just plain dumb and pretty. Windows sidebar, is nothing compared to the dock either but I'll get back to work, I could give you 20 reasons why OSX beats any windows system hands down.

[FourZeroSeven]

Be fair, Vista is good at somethings. I mean it helped me decide on getting a new MacBook ;)

[Arriemo]

Vista more open? There is a difference between Vista and a PC. Pc's are open, Vista is not. Macs are less open in hardware (even though ive seen it boot on a quad core, 8800gt PC) but OSX is much more open in its software. I can't even count how many open source projects Apple have used to make OSX. This is the last time I read a blog like this. I cant stand mis-information and lies, even though im a fulltime PC user. His time would have been better spent writting a page about how stupid he is, then setting it on fire and shoving it up his ass.

[DJ]

Vista is so horrific, it's painful to think that Microsoft spent billions of dollars and so many years to create something that not only hogs more resources than any OS out there, but also steals viciously from Mac OS X. And not very well either. If they did a better job than apple, they'd still get props for doing something right. But they're the laughing stock of the industry. Even Intel shunned Microsoft at a recent trade show for Linux.

The new Macs are so well designed, it's not even funny. Hoping to get the 8-core tower for video editing/3D later down the line.

[obinofunkenobi]

I don't think either should be bashed, but my time with Leopard has been a more enjoyable experience than vista.

1.) Bootcamp plays all windows games, depending on the system you own.
2.) Macs are upgradable, it depends on your system. Laptops and Imacs only give access to change ram and hds, while Mac Pros allow you to change the other parts such as the video card. Sersiously, go to newegg, they're readily available. You can max out at 4gb of ram on a Macbook for $90. Don't tell me you've never seen integrated stuff on pc's. Oh wait, Mac is know on the x86 architecture, so what's the difference mutha licker. Enjoy what you use.
3.) I still use XP on bootcamp, so what's this Vista thing all about? (j/k, but I do use XP)
4.) I'm usually not a fan of building cheap pc's because I had a friend do that, and he's always borrowing one of my laptops because it usually poops the bed twice a year.
5.) I do think Apple should allow their OS on other PC's without much effort from the users. Maybe people would be less cranky and see the light on both sides of the whole Microsoft vs. Apple crap, but Apple is a hardware producer too, and it'd be like letting people put the Ipod software on a Zune.
6.) The hacking contest was a little unfair. I believe Ubuntu could've been hacked easily, but why invade homebase is my logic and embarrass the linux crowd?

[DevastationEve]

undereducated people making miniscule attempts at trying to present an intelligent debate over which OS is superior. their most intelligent response to someone saying that Vista is better?

clicking disagree.

it's funny that noone really GIVES their reasons for bashing Vista. i can honestly say one of the reasons why Mac's aren't for me is that only a Mac authorized dealer can fix it when its broken. and where i live, the nearest one is 160 miles due south. NOPE, not for me. and i don't do the mail thing, not when it comes to expensive (overpriced really) hardware like a PowerMac. and that's the only Mac I'll ever consider. iMac belongs in retard rehabilitation facilities. it's just so childish and basic looking. i'm sure it's a wonderful experience for its many owners, but it's not for me.

[u got owned]

MAC OS X is superior in everyway

[permutated]

The sheer fact that OSX can run XP and Vista now makes this article retarded.

The main reason to buy a MAC now is that for a few hundred $$$ more you can have both systems.

[Ballistic Jay]

Why? well, for starters, its THE MORE EXPENSIVE OS, it takes more RAM because its retarded, which means ur computer can't run as many things as fast. Oh, and when you write an article again Gates fanboy, get some real facts, or maybe some that matter... Mac OS X FTW!!!! Oh, and I'd like to know where i can get a 500 dollar GAMING pc, if u even know what that is!

[Diabloz]

5 Star: Mac OS X
5 Star: Linux
3 Star: XP
-100 Star: Vista

[ArcAngel_07]

That SYMS slogan is one of my favorites. Articles like this are aimed at the "not in the know" members of our families. i.e., our parents, grandparents, siblings, and aunties that don't be religiously checking on N4G and other techie sites for the latest news! "). Someone's "just doing what I get paid for" because anyone that's up to date, knows that this is just irresponsible journalism. If you can call that, journalism!

"Reason #1: Vista runs more software"

Since the advent of Apple moving from Power PC to Intel chips, running MS software, both XP and Vista, is the norm. run almost every game, app that you lil heart desires.

"Reason #2: Vista is safer"

"The mystery crack was dependent on visiting a website containing malicious code. The exploit was presented on the second day of the three-day conference and appeared only once the competition eased rules, permitting hacks to require user actions rather than the strictly automatic hacks that were allowed the day before." When it take the user access to the computer and have hacks done days in advance, it just doesn't sound as easy, does it?

"Reason #3: It's the money, stupid"
And I say "Price of ownership"
With a mac you get a well designed, ready to go machine that ready to go and perform the second you get it and turn it on. And it requires little maintenance. It would seem if you get a "cheaper" PC that it would be less expensive, but in the long run it's not. Price of maintenance, or in the case of building a PC manual labor, adds up. I like the "car mechanic" analogy: you can get a new car, or if you don't mind getting you hands dirty, get the parts and built it yourself. just because you're not paying yourself the manual labor fees, they're still there.

"Reason #4: The Mac is closed; Vista is open"
And since we're in a gaming site, who knew /sarcasm, it's funny how every single gaming console, including MS' Xbox's are closed. It's called "business model". Apple is a hardware company that just happens to make great software. Sony, Nintendo, and MS give us their product "as is". Meaning, we never thought about adding more RAM, a different video card and the like. Changing a hard drive has come up just in this current generation.
Imagine if MS didn't have the monopoly it once had, and Dell, HP, or what-have-you had their own OS. that would pretty much be what Apple does. It's just the way apple does business. And it has worked for them so far.

Reason #5: Two words -- Steve Jobs
That on I'll leave alone! "). Mr Job's great at promoting and protecting his products. And he gives us great products.

[reckoner]

Haha. Vista. It doesn't even come close to Mac.

[ChickeyCantor]

OS-X....MAC is something else >_>
just retarded that people make these mistakes, especially when they try to defend one OS.

" Haha. Vista. It doesn't even come close to OS-X. "
"Haha. PC. It doesn't even come close to Mac. "

^ thats how you say it, what you said was like comparing Apples to oranges( yes that was a lame pun)

[reckoner]

I'm currently on Leopard right now, I didn't think adding OS X was such a big deal...

[cjg23]

When will people get that its up to the manufacturers to make drivers for hardware and patches for software not Microsoft. A lot of companies didn't make fixes because they want you to buy an updated version of their product that is (vista ready), especially in the software market.

[ChickeyCantor]

....you know, both do their job....and one who says the one crashes more then the other?...it depends on how you maintain your OS....

Thnx to an imac a half year of work whent corrupt, so how can i say its better then windows?
i think its these little experiences that take you to one side.

[im a mac]
[im a pc]
well you can both STFU because you both can achieve the same freaking goals. however its the user behind it.

i like 3dsmax, dislike Maya.....doesnt mean maya is bad.

[StrawHatKid]

For the money I would rather have XP and Linux.

[Mattey]

I have Vista and im liking the fact that i have yet to detect any spyware on it yet :) and well most programs work on it know adays. But i love th programs that Macs come with like garage band, i like how stuff you dl on limewire goes right into your itunes. I would rather just have both :(

[lelik]

XP > Vista > Linux > OSX

i think it's more like this.

XP > Linux > vista > OSX

if you like macs, you simply don't know how to use a computer. mac's are built around the idea that people are stupid. buy a mac, admit you're computer illiterate, i could care less.

[DarKnight1]

CRYSIS, with its insane Directx10 graphics...
Seing is believing. You cant deny this simple fact Crysis is the best looking game ever and only playalbe on Vista so thats why its the best hands down. This is a game site so this should be the reason for it being better now if this was a compy site for compy nerds then things might be different.

[iamtehpwn]

Vista can't even beat itself.

[OJ_juice]

Seriously vista sucks. Anything is better then vista

XP>OSX=Linux>Windows 98>>>>>>> >>>>>>> vista

[DevastationEve]

such negativity toward an OS? it's funny, i just hope that some of you actually go out and BUILD whatever it is that you see lacking in Vista. seriously, people! step up and get to crackin, or quit your yappin! i don't see anybody TRYING to make a better OS, so Vista still wins. Mac's gaming support is terribly lacking, so for all those those DO happen to own an 8core 16GB PowerMac, here's to finding good use for it! oh sure, you can probably melt through Maya at unseen framrates, and still be browsing with Safari and syncing to you your iPod in iTunes. but nobody buys a PC that powerful unless they're A) rich B) a digital artist/CG animator or C) a gamer! And gamers will be the LEAST satisfied in their purchase of a Mac!

just so people don't think i'm a Mac hater, i'm buying a Mac mini. i like the idea that in that little lunch box is a computer more than capable of running both XP and Mac OSx. but it will NEVER take the place of my Vista notebook PC.