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The Order 1886: Graphics Over Gameplay?

Hardcore Gamer: If there is one aspect of The Order that is undeniably impressive it is definitely the visuals. Footage of the game in action has been scarce since it was first announced last year, but what we have seen looks incredibly sharp. The environments, animations, and especially the character models look simply amazing, and the game will likely be among the most visually impressive games on any system if this is indeed how the final product looks. However, while the focus of pre-release information has been squarely on the game's impressive visuals, the gameplay hasn't been a major talking point.

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ValKilmer4047d ago

I think this will certainly be the case. Ironically this generation Sony seems to be more focused on graphics and Microsoft seems to be more interested on delivering a solid gameplay experience.

Kayant4047d ago

Wow such an amazing crystal eye you have /s

NewMonday4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

good "gameplay" is supposed to make a player apply skill, something we don't see in most XB1 games yet

games like Ryse, Titanfall, Dead Rising3 and Sunset Overdrive are full of cannon fodder, it makes a poor gamer feel great, maybe that is why some like them.

user14394144047d ago

Why can a game not have GOOD graphics AND good GAMEPLAY? I believe this game will be very good.

morganfell4047d ago

Since we have not been entreated to gameplay other than some of the combat mechnaics, this article is an idiot's thesis. We have been told by Ready at Dawn that the game is investigation heavy. Yet some with internet access must do what they can from their parent's basement to propogate absurd suppositions.

alexkoepp4047d ago

It's a third person shooter with QTE, its going to play exactly how it sounds. Don't think this game is trying to break down any walls here with gameplay, you can tell how it's going to play by seeing the footage.

AGaryColemanClone4047d ago

"Yet some with internet access must do what they can from their parent's basement to propogate absurd suppositions."

The Xbox fans in the media and sitting at home are in an absolute panic in the same way they were when Sony blew everyone away with Killzone 2 on the PS3 being able to render what Xbox fans claimed were 'impossible CGI level graphics' and absolutely nailed the original E3 reveal trailer.

There are going to be an endless stream of garbage thrown at this game until it is released.

georgeenoob4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

Unfortunately that's the case with PS4. It already happened with KZ and Infamous, and now the Order. All have phenomenal graphics but very bland gameplay.

X1 on the other hand has both with games like Quantum Break in addition to the amazing gameplay rich exclusives such as Titanfall, DR3, Sunset Overdrive, and Killer Instinct.

Also @Newmonday

"good "gameplay" is supposed to make a player apply skill, something we don't see in most XB1 games yet
games like Ryse, Titanfall, Dead Rising3 and Sunset Overdrive... "

Wow you obviously know nothing about those games. Every one of those games require skill. Ryse has competitive gladiator mode, Titanfall is very competitive matching players with similar skill, and Sunset Overdrive forces you to kill with style. Even DR3 has thousands of zombies on screen and challenges how you approach the zombies.

Fail.

psyxon4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

As an avid PlayStation supporter, I'm happy the Order is getting criticized so harshly and prejudged every which way. Why? Because when it does release, it will be THAT much more impressing. It will blow everyone away and silence all the critics and doubters. I can't wait for it.

BitbyDeath4047d ago

@Alexkoep, guess you won't be buying Quantum Break then eh?

truefan14047d ago

The fact that R@D chose 30fps over 60fps speaks volumes.

SoulSercher6204047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

@georgeenoob

LOL again you make BS claims.

"Every one of those games require skill. Ryse has competitive gladiator mode, Titanfall is very competitive matching players with similar skill, and Sunset Overdrive forces you to kill with style. Even DR3 has thousands of zombies on screen and challenges how you approach the zombies."

Ryse battle system is like Batman Arkham but WAY worse. The AI in that game is near braindead.

Titanfall's matchmaking system is no different from CoD.

You barely know anything about Sunset Overdrive yet from one video you happen to know EVERYTHING about the game. The same applies to Quantum Break.

In DR3 there are no different ways to challenge a thousand zombies on screen. They give you a route to escape from them. You must be joking if you think you can take on 1000 zombies on the screen.

Fail.

Bennibop4047d ago

Always the same 2 people trolling ps4 articles: truefan1 & georgeenoob are you 1 and the same person because it's hard to believe that two complete idiots can post the exact same drivel. And before you start I own pc, ps4 and x1, the order looks like ps answer to gears of war and that's cool us gamers will enjoy playing it I am sure!

Malphite4047d ago

@georgeenoob: "Wow you obviously know nothing about those games. Every one of those games require skill."

Just like you don't know anything about the games you bashed. You're praising the gameplay of Dead Rising, Ryse and even Sunset Overdrive (a game that we haven't seen much gameplay of and you haven't played yet) but bash Infamous (great gameplay) and Killzone (solid gameplay) although you probably never played those games either.

It's very obvious that you praise every single game that isn't on the PS4 and hate on every PS4 exclusive.

Kayant4047d ago

@georgeenoob

Aren't you forgetting some amazing gameplay exclusives like Lococycle, Crimson Dragon, Fighter Within, Halo: Spartan Assault, Zoo Tycoon.

"Wow you obviously know nothing about those games. Every one of those games require skill. Ryse has competitive gladiator mode, Titanfall is very competitive matching players with similar skill, and Sunset Overdrive forces you to kill with style. Even DR3 has thousands of zombies on screen and challenges how you approach the zombies" - Same can be said about the PS4 games to some degree with so called bland gameplay.Each console has their share of gameplay heavy games, "bland" gameplay games.

Raven7224047d ago

Not surprised at all to see the same two lifeless idiots trolling PS4 articles.

DigitalRaptor4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

I know man. It's a shame we have to put up with speculative idiocy until the truth lets out. People look at a third-person shooter with unique weapons, and then you see these weapons used like you'd expect from a third-person shooter. To kill people.

http://a.pomf.se/ojtbvp.web...

Somehow, this gameplay is disappointing. Even though we've seen literally a fraction of what the gameplay of the game will consist of. Things we haven't seen in great detail:

- Slow paced investigation
- hand to hand combat
- branching QTE
- encounters with half-breeds and other enemies
- MOST of the weapons which the gameplay is attributed to.

See this is how it happens. They'll look at ANYTHING to downplay. It was the graphics being "downgraded" last week (an astonishing claim proven to be a load of crap). Now they can't bag on the graphics, they'll look at the gameplay and nitpick it to hell, despite the fact that there's nothing really much to draw from.

They'd be hating on the presence of cutscenes in the game if they weren't so interactive. But they will find something.

E3. Xbox fanboys will continue to be wrong.

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Eonjay4047d ago

From what I have seen, this game looks to use the cover system made popular by Gears of War, and I'm okay with that gameplay style. Also, the games weapons look epic. Throw that on top of a first class visual experience and you have a train that can't be stopped.

Mikelarry4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

what proof have you got to make that statement, the game is not even out yet or even worse you haven't had any hands on time to come to that judgement. I swear this generation is going to be about gamers complaining about games rather than playing GAMES!!!. my personal favourite "infamous does not have multi-player so i am not getting it" WTF

LaChance4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

The new Ryse.

The only difference is that The Order is from an unproven dev on consoles ... hmmm.

Mikelarry4047d ago

Troll harder, Damn I miss the open zone section

Bathyj4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

No the only difference is you were likely right there singing Ryses praises yet suddenly you think a beautiful game automatically means dull gameplay.

That and the fact graphics AND gameplay on The Order both look better than Ryse.

Why o why4047d ago

At least one of the xcamps most senior t generals can admit ryse was a load of style over substance.

Lets wait and see what this game is like when people have actually have it in their mits. Until then....dodge the click bait

maniacmayhem4047d ago

We haven't really seen much of gameplay from The Order to even think that graphics will take persistent over the gameplay.

Also, from what little was shown the gameplay looks to be standard over the shoulder, shooter type like RE:6, that's not a bad thing since it's a proven formula and works really well.

Lets just hope The Order excels in story that keeps the shooter experience interesting.

My only small gripe is the no multiplayer. A game like this and in this setting would have been bad a$$.

Why o why4047d ago

Yep, yep, yep and I'm kool without the pressures of multiplayer, lol

Mikelarry4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

Ill rather they concentrate and deliver a solid single player experience and if after they have the resource's and time then they try and figure out if multiplayer would be feasible, maybe in the next one when the pressure of it not being thier first console debut and they have learnt what works from this

Flutterby4047d ago

No Mp is a good thing in my opinion the story I can bet will be top notch and also we won't need to get stupid online only trophies to get platinum.

Dark114047d ago

Sony love their cinematic/movie games , so that is why it's "graphics over gameplay"

SoulSercher6204047d ago

Funny these cinematic/movie games you speak of outclassed ANYTHING on 360 and will do the same on Xbone.

Dark114047d ago

@SoulSercher620

outclassed ANYTHING? not really
i enjoyed Red Dead more than any cinematic/movie game.

people have different opinions , yes it's shocking i know.

Shane Kim4047d ago

Opinions yes...but the hundreds of awards from TLOU and Uncharted are facts. Live with it.

cemelc4047d ago

@Dark11

And yet the game you just mention is not an xbox exclusive by any means...

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Master-H4047d ago

" Sony seems to be more focused on graphics and Microsoft seems to be more interested on delivering a solid gameplay experience"...except Ryse is a Microsoft exclusive...

Sharky2314047d ago

How can anyone tell how the gameplay is gonna be. We've seen two five minute segments from the game. They haven't showed much of the qte parts. That in itself is a cool aspect that could add a lot to the gameplay. I'm tired of hearing this crap! Let's wait til there's a demo for people to play before we draw a conclusion.

styferion4047d ago

what do you say about Ryse then? It's hilarious to see XB fanboy bash The Order for graphics over gameplay when we just only see mere few minutes of gameplay and they quietly ignore Ryse, the most recent proof of graphics over gameplay.

damn, why do all fanboys comments so stupid like this, it's like watching politicians debate.

sovkhan4046d ago

Solid gameplay experience???

Haw Haw Haw

Metacritic, hence a bunch of people, doesn't agree with you :)

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NewMonday4047d ago

R@D made better gameplay in the GOW PSP games than the main consoles games so I trust them in that department , and the smart application of the thermite gun assured me.

majiebeast4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

I dont agree with that. I think God of War 2 is still the best game and had the best gameplay in the franchise. Ghost of Sparta isn't far behind, and had the best story and gave an insight to Kratos as a person, unlike 2 where he is just a raging beast.

I trust RAD because Ghost of Sparta was an amazing game. The director/writer/lead gameplay designer(Dana Jan) of that game is now the director of Order 1886. The director/writer(Ru weerasuriya) of Chains and creative director/writer of Ghost of Sparta is now the creative director of the Order 1886. Plus he has worked on Warcraft III as artist and script writer.

You should really watch God of War game directors live.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

NewMonday4047d ago

@majiebeast

after 2, since the PSP games started after that, basically better than 3 (minus the crazy set pices) and Ascension.

also was impressed with the narrative they made despite scraping the bottom of the barrel on the PSP games.

fpshooter24047d ago

For me the most interesting part of this game is the storyline. Its what has my attention the most. Not denying the beauty of this game but it has a lot more going for it than just looks.

Shane Kim4047d ago

For me, it's always the story that must be prioritized. Without a good story, I'll lose interest even if the gameplay/graphics are top notch. I want to be motivated of why I sohould be continuing the game. Not just mindlessly sloughter everything in my way.

The Order seems to have a very interesting story, with a lot of mood, and mysticism. A bit like some kind of Dracula movie.

Applejack4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

I never understood why you have to choose between the two. Why can't a game look AND play good, is that against the rules?

NYC_Gamer4047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

The Order 1886 could be a solid cover shooter for PS4 like Gears of Wars was on 360

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The Order: 1886 Sequel Would Have Featured Larger-Scale Battles & Multiplayer

A sequel to Sony and Ready At Dawn's action-adventure game, The Order: 1886, would have featured larger-scale battles as well as multiplayer.

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pwnmaster300033d ago

I missed it when games use to have a multiplayer to them.
Hope Sony revives the game at one point

KyRo33d ago

Killzone, Resistance, Uncharted, TLOU, Motorstorm. Great times. Its a shame how far they've fallen this generation

Muigi33d ago

Oh they still do…its just the whole game now 😂.

-Foxtrot33d ago

Why add multiplayer when the single player (despite enjoying it for what it was) had flaws?

You'd work out the issues with how you craft the single player then once you’ve perfected it do multiplayer after.

RaidenBlack33d ago

https://www.videogameschron...
"Two sequels were planned for the franchise, The Order 1891 and The Order 1899. While the third game was never in development, Weerasuriya says he had planned where the story of the franchise was planned to go, if he had been able to develop the full trilogy."
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Alas, we'll also might never get the PC version of 1886, which is currently residing in some dev's hard drive, nearly ready for a release if required.

Charal33d ago

It’s a shame we didn’t gave its chance to this franchise.
Game world was very interesting, and gameplay could have evolved to a major hit with sequels.
Not even speaking about graphics that were way ahead of their time.

Reaper22_33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

If "we" is sony, i agree. I liked the game but it was metacritic that contributed to it's death. It's a shame.

AshleeEmerson33d ago

No, we are "us," the gamers who rated it so low on Metacritic, hurting... Killing its sales. I agree it is a shame. I loved this game.

Charal33d ago

No it is not, it is us has a community which crucified this game, which is happening much too often.

CrimsonWing6933d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I think MP being co-op would’ve been awesome. Essentially, I always viewed this as Sony’s take on the Gears series.

However, it really failed to measure up to what I expected. I definitely saw the potential but there were some things that really bogged it down for me like the forced slow walking segments (which I know was to hide loading), the repetitive warehouse werewolf fights, not enough variety in enemies, oddly we fought more humans than Darkstalkers, and the stealth sections were infuriating.

One thing there’s no denying though, this damn game was a looker. Such a shame at the wasted potential.

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The Order: 1886, a Ten Year Reunion

WTMG's Leo Faria: "After finally playing the now decade-old The Order: 1886, what do I think about it? Is it really worthy of all the hate it has received over the past decade? Or is it some kind of hidden gem? I honestly think it falls somewhere in the middle. I loved the setting, the story is initially fine, the combat isn’t half-bad, and the potential for some awesome world building was there. It was all bogged down by too much ambition against a tight deadline, as well as poor marketing. As a result, it’s short, full of plotholes, infested with QTEs, and not exactly memorable as a whole. As a game you can grab for less than ten bucks today, I absolutely think it’s worth checking out. It’s one hell of a wasted potential, but for such a discount, I had some fun with it, and I’m sure you will too."

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SimpleSlave130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

Great setting, great graphics, even decent gun play, but what a trash of a game. The fuck were these people thinking? We could've had something like an Alan Wake 2 meets Mass Effect 2 style game. With investigations, creepy locations to uncover and explore, people to talk to and even recruit, clues to uncover and connect, monsters to slay, side quests to get lost in, and a more expansive lore to go with it.

Instead we got a shitty AAAAAAAAA Third Person Pew Pew snoozfest. Awesome.

_SilverHawk_129d ago

The order 1886 was one of the best games I played on ps4. Within a top 5 best ps4 games I'd put the last of us 2, the order 1886, days gone, horizon zero dawn and God of war.

SimpleSlave129d ago

"The order 1886 was one of the best games I played on ps4. Within a top 5 best ps4 games..."

Jesus H. Christ, bud. You just sound like a Sony apologist. What the fuck? Anyways. Good luck with that or whatever.

coolbeans129d ago

God. The "what could've been" you're describing would've been way better than just being the most empty cinematic shooter slop of that generation.

SimpleSlave129d ago

Right? I mean, I can understand people enjoying this thing ironically. Knowing that it sucks but still enjoying it for what it is. I get that. That's fine. We all have our guilty pleasure no doubt. But to come here and actually pretend that this is a top 5 PS4 game? Wow!

To pretend that this barely there game is anything more than an "empty cinematic shooter slop of that generation," as you said, is beyond ridiculous. But I guess Self-Awareness is some expensive ass DLC still.

Espangerish129d ago

I really enjoyed this game and also think it was one of the best PS4 games. It’s weird to me that this makes you so angry. I’m not a Sony fan at all by the way, very much pc player.

SimpleSlave129d ago

"and also think it was one of the best PS4 games"
"I’m not a Sony fan at all by the way, very much pc player."

Yeah, OK. You want to lie to yourself? You do you, bud. But like I said to the other Sony apologist, "good luck with that or whatever."

-Foxtrot129d ago

Jesus, it had some flaws but you're acting like it was unplayable.

It built a foundation, a rocky one but a sequel is where they could have refined things.

Personally my only issue is I feel like the "Gears of War" like over the shoulder gameplay, especially getting into cover and the like didn't really fit the game as much. In Gears you understand that kind of gameplay because they are wearing super heavy amour and guns but in the Order these guys are super human, they should feel more of a breeze to control, easily jumping over things and being allowed to climb whatever similar to Uncharted.

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Inverno130d ago

Im back again to simp for The Order, if ya like games well grounded in their reality with consistency in everything it does then I recommend it if ya haven't played it. Play it thru emulation or on your PS it don't matter just play it.

1nsomniac130d ago (Edited 130d ago )

A great game run down by the media for it's price vs length - Which was understandable, but it shouldn't of been the be all and end all.

At the right price this was a great game & deserved a sequel!

thorstein129d ago

Exactly. What a weird metric that suddenly was important and then, within a few months, no longer mattered.

andy85129d ago

I enjoyed this. I think the complaints were the length if I remember. Nothing wrong with a short good game, at least to physical copy owners 😅

Rebel_Scum129d ago

Put the thing on PS plus already!

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The Order: 1886 Dev Pitched a Sequel to Sony, But Was Denied

Co-founder thinks bad reviews were to blame.
Ready at Dawn co-founder has revealed the now-shuttered studio pitched a sequel to PS4 exclusive The Order: 1886 to Sony, but was denied the chance to make it.

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_SilverHawk_139d ago

I can't believe sony turned down a sequel to the order 1886 which ended basically on a cliffhanger. The game is amazing and I would love a ps5 pro enhanced version just like I'd like a driveclub ps5 pro enhanced version.

DodoDojo139d ago

About 2 million sales and not the greatest of reviews, I can believe it.

Tbh there's a lot of dormant Sony exclusives that are more deserving of a sequel.

ravens52139d ago

Have you played it? Just curious.

ABizzel1139d ago (Edited 139d ago )

2 million probably wasn’t enough to make a strong profit on, and the mid reviews didn’t help, even though it was a solid game just short, and could have expanded way more on the creature mythos.

Days Gone: +7 million / mid reviews (no sequel)
Infamous SS: 6 million / mid reviews (no sequel)
Killzone SF: +2 million (4 mo.) / mid reviews (no sequel)
Driveclub: +2 million (2015 / leaks say 5m) / mid reviews (no sequel)

Basically it looks like for the PS4 generation budgets were getting out of control and Sony made the decision

sales + reviews - budget = sequel or no sequel

goken139d ago

Whatever the number, can’t be worst than concord

SimpleDad139d ago

Glad that Alloy Lego is doing great.

Toecutter00138d ago

Two million in sales for a new IP is pretty impressive. The world-building was in a class on its own. Any moron could see this IP had mad potential and the fact that Sony balked on it makes one question their competence and leadership.

Cacabunga138d ago

Nothing to do with sales. It’s all about the broken vision that Sony is having lately.
Days Gone sold great but they still don’t want a sequel to it.
Sony wants Easy money and they saw it in gaas and lazy games like lego horizon and countless remasters..

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pwnmaster3000139d ago (Edited 139d ago )

Idky you can’t believe it.
This game was shitted on by everyone besides some PS fans.

Don’t blame Sony on this one. Blame everyone who wanted to see this burn. Sony does a lot of stupid shit with their IP and waste a lot of them like bloodborne and days gone, but don’t be surprised with this one.

Outside_ofthe_Box139d ago

Exactly. I came to post exactly this. The game was torn apart upon release. It's not shocking that a sequel was denied.

S2Killinit139d ago

Not “upon” release. There was a whole campaign “prior” to release.

In my opinion they should have made it a bit less linear and it would have been great. I did enjoy it. But the reception it got makes sense that Sony wouldnt want to risk a sequel if it was going to open up a can of worms with people who wanted the first one to fail.

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Christopher139d ago

I played the game. I 100% believe Sony turned down a sequel.

blackblades139d ago

Well pretty obvious when it was left on a cliffhanger. Many sequels get turned from companies as someone else said above blame the SOB's that always whining.

Sabbath1313139d ago

i 100% agree with you, both of those games were amazing

Bathyj139d ago

What's so hard to believe? Don't you remember this game was crucified by the media.. it was DOA. It's a shame because it was a really fresh new IP it was gorgeous and a play really well . it had some issues but it wasn't the only game with qte repeated bosses and a playtime under 10 hours.

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mkis007138d ago (Edited 138d ago )

It was panned because of the graphics hype. Kind of similar to Ryse and hellblade 2...although the story was pretty interesting in all 3.

As a matter of fact I think Indy's success is partially due to the fact the graphics were not hyped up pre launch.

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-Foxtrot139d ago

It’s strange though Sony would be so proud about their work and overall quality but wouldn’t give them an extra year to, give them that quality.

Anyway he talks about if it was in the 70s they’d have had their sequel but Days Gone is at 71 on Metacritic and we don’t have a sequel.

Both games should have one, I think they deserve a second chance at refining and building onto that foundation already laid out.

neutralgamer1992139d ago (Edited 139d ago )

Definitely days gone 2 should happen. Who knows maybe now Sony will let them make it since bend had to cancel its live service game. Days gone 2 for PS6 sounds amazing

As far as order 1886 sequel it would be have been interesting. I think if this game was a RPG with 15 hour story it would have done so much better. Don't get me wrong game is great but you can tell the potential is there if they were allowed to make some drastic changes

Sadly this new Sony is not the PlayStation they are suits and spreadsheet guys. Playstation has lost its touch with gamers. I miss Shawn jack Andrew house etc

At the launch of PS4 Playstation was at its full strength with gamers running the company but not anymore. No we have a guy who loves horizon above every thing else and is willing to fund projects based on that IP

Redemption-64139d ago

So an IP that actually sell? Sony moved away from the type of games you saw during the launch of the PS4 because many gamer didn't support them. I hear people crying more about say Japan Studio closing than actually supporting their games when they were open. Wasn't it shawn layden who said many of these games fail and you hope a few like horizon to make up for the failed games. Maybe if gamers actually supported these games there would be more of them. Shocking right?

Redemption-64139d ago

There is no sequel for Days Gone because it didn't sell. The director himself said "If you love a game, buy it at f****** full price. I can't tell you how many times I've seen gamers say 'yeah, I got that on sale, I got it through PS Plus, whatever'.”

Majority of the sales from days gone came from when it was heavily discounted, and I have seen many gamers say they will not pay full price or the game isn't worth full price, but they will buy it when it's discounted. Yet they get triggered when the studio decides to move away from a game they refused to support at full price

jwillj2k4139d ago (Edited 139d ago )

What this is showing is that the majority of people don’t like the price. It doesn’t mean they don’t like the game. Two different dimensions.

Example: The company Take Two took advantage by selling NBA 2K at $20, completely undercutting NBA live to become the most popular basketball game. High priced games isn’t the only way they can make money.

-Foxtrot139d ago

Well. If we are going to go off that director apparently Days Gone hit 8 million sales around the same time frame that Ghost of Tsushima later did.

https://x.com/JakeRocket/st...

One was considered a failure, the other a massive success so I don't think it just boils down to sales.

Redemption-64139d ago

@Foxtrot

Hey, maybe you clearly know more than the director/writer. If memory serves me right, Days Gone went on sale faster than Ghost. Also, please know budget is a major factor. There is a huge difference between Ghost with a budget of $60M selling 8M, vs Days Gone, with a budget of $250M selling 8M after major price cut. One can be considered a success, because it had a much lower budget.

Don't Complain If a Game Doesn’t Get a Sequel” If You Didn’t Buy It “At F-cking Full Price, clearly shows the game didn't make the money it needed to make within the time frame it needed

Redemption-64139d ago

@jwillj2k4

What is shows is majority of gamers didn't think Days Gone was worth the $60 price tag and clearly Sony agrees with them. You can like a game, but if you don't think it is worth the price tag, why do you complain when the company decides to not invest in a game you don't think is worth what they are charging? They should release the game, lose money, cut the price and then you will support it?

jwillj2k4137d ago

Reading is fundamental. I said start with a reduced price not cut the price after you’ve already released it. It was an example to show how there are other ways they couldn’t make money. The idea is that number of buyers is much greater at $20 than $60. I didn’t think I had the point that out to you.

Redemption-64137d ago (Edited 137d ago )

@jwillj2k4

The number of buyers being greater at $20 than $60 does not equate to more money. You literally have to sell 2-3 times more to makeup the difference. Starting with a reduced price for an AAA that costs say $250M is pure stupidity and again would have to sell 2-4 times more depending on the reduced price break even. Or include micro transactions. They can make it into a free live service game with mtx. Yeah, you are right, maybe they should follow the route 2K NBA took

Clearly many don't think the game is worth $60. Who knows maybe the remaster can give it hope. But it would be funny if they get a sequel and people refuse to buy it at full price. Highly doubt those who think the game isn't worth 60, will be lining up for 70.

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S2Killinit139d ago

Days Gone deserved so much better than 71. I’ve noticed that some PlayStation games get attacked and it feels generated. Like money is behind the hate campaign.

-Foxtrot139d ago

Days Gone was that one game which wasn't really attacked by gamers but by journalists.

As soon as it was revealed they really didn't like it for some reason, it was made out to be because it came across as a generic looking open world game or another generic "zombie" game but at the time we had plenty of open world games and a fair few "zombie/infected" games that these journalists didn't bad an eyelid towards.

When the game released broken before the Day One patch it just gave these journalists a massive excuse to slaughter the game in their reviews.

On one hand, a game shouldn't have released in that broken state or at least they shouldn't have given journalists a copy without the Day One patch HOWEVER these are the same journalists who usually gloss over that kind of stuff with so many other games, take Star Wars Outlaws for example, the game was a buggy, broken mess at launch with plenty of issues, bad AI, some clear performance issues and a lot of quality of life improvements needed but it still did a lot better than Days Gone at launch.

Personally I think they knew they could get away with it more because Sony Bend weren’t that high up and respectable, they knew calling their game out as much as they did wouldn't hit them with any major consequences unlike if they hypothetically were like this towards NaughtyDog, Sony Santa Monica or Insomniac.

RaidenBlack139d ago

Yea and there was/is a PC version of 1886 too in 2016 ... but now maybe collecting dust in some dev's hardrive.

Relientk77139d ago

That's lame. It's not perfect, definitely a flawed game, but deserves a sequel. You already have the first game as a starting point just need to improve upon it. This could have been a much better sequel like the jump from Assassin's Creed to Assassin's Creed 2. The IP has potential.

S2Killinit139d ago

But Assassins Creed sold a lot.

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