Godchild10203836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

That's just for one console. How about for those of us that have 2 consoles in the same house?

Edit: You can use up to 2 systems concurrently: the system activated as your "primary" PS4™ system, and one other system.

mandf3836d ago

It says and I quote " one primary system and on concurent system." Same as this gen

Godchild10203836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

I got that when I clicked the second tab. The one that says "Playing on other PS4 systems when you are not home."

AliTheSnake13836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

"Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only YOU can start games that you download."

GODDAMN IT. No more Sharing :(

mandf3836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

It says and I quote " one primary system and on concurrent system." Same as this gen edit i was typing then you editted lol double post sorry that kind of night

KUV19773836d ago

It's actually not the same as this gen. On the second console only the owner of the digital content will be able to launch it. Other accounts can not start those games. However, on PS4 up to 4 accounts can be logged in simultaneously. Maybe this would be a work-around.

Game-Sharing in the way it was abused seems to be over. For households with multiple PS4s this may be inconvenient.

mandf3836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

I do believe you are wrong. although maybe you are right edit your are wrong it is 2 system activations and the primary user does not have to sign in. It's all there in the faq

KUV19773836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

"Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only you can start games that you download."

The last sentence does not sound like another account can start a game like it is now on PS3. The owner does not have to be logged in on the primary console, but on other consoles only he can start a game he owns. So you can play the game on two systems, even at the same time, but on the console of a friend, the friend account can not start the game and earn trophies in it, unless the 4 concurrend signins can be used in a way that the owner-account is logged in and starts the game but another account can then go on and play it, which I don't believe.

The game-sharing was not an intended feature. It was meant so that you could play games when on another console. It was however abused in a way that a game was bought once and then 'owned' by first 5, later 2 people. This is not in the interest of publishers. I believe the new system tries to fix this.

yewles13836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

@mandf

Incorrect, not what it says at all.

"You can use up to 2 systems 'CONCURRENTLY':"

"Only 'YOU' can start games that you download."

The original account needs to be activated and the game started by said original in order for others to play.

Mr_Writer853835d ago

@Yewles

You are muddling up the two statements.

The whole 'only YOU' thing is about playing the games on say a 3rd or 4th PS4.

The second is saying you have two PS4's that are a 'primary' console which says in the section before that it says you can play the game on any profile on the PS4.

KUV19773835d ago (Edited 3835d ago )

Now I get you. You suppose one can have multiple systems designated as being 'primary'. That would certainly fix the home-situation but I believe you can only have one primary console. It says 'your primary console' not 'your primary consoleS'. This way the app knows where to download your purchases to and the VITA knows to which console to connect. Shuhei Yoshida already confirmed that there is no pairing necessary between VITA and PS4. This would be much more difficult if you had multiple primary consoles. However I would not complain if that was the case. Let's wait and see. Maybe someone could ask Yoshida-San via twitter if multiple primary consoles are possible.

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rambi803835d ago

for once the fine print makes me happy. Totally missed it.

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evilbart3836d ago

Well that's great to hear my brother lives in Canada and we buy digital and share so glad this feature works with ps4

KUV19773836d ago

Not necessarily: "Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only you can start games that you download." Unless you also share an account, or simultaneous login will be sufficient (which it very well may be).

thehitman3836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

Think that how it is already on ps3. Not really sure since the last time I actually tested it since they might have changed the policies but I use to share content w/ my friend who lived across the street from me all we had to do was keep his PSN account on my PS3 and vice versa for giving him stuff. I could dl anything he purchased and use it on my account like it was mine.

Probably only online games will be affected since you need to login w/ the psn account to play online but I think that even has changed w/ Sony adding multiple psn accounts for co-op playing online.

KUV19773836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

Exactly, right now you just need to have his account on your console. The text, hoiwever, explicitly states, that only the owner of the content will be able to launch it. Maybe with the ability to aign 4 accounts in at a time, the owner-account can start it and the other account can earn trophies, but to me it sounds more like other accounts can not really do anything with the game, without the original owner being the active acount.

In regard to other systems:
"Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only you can start games that you download."

stuna13836d ago

What I think the difference will be applied will be those with PS+, meaning that will be the determining factor as far as how restrictive digitally downloaded content can be shared. From my understanding I don't think PS+ can be shared over more than two consoles simultaneously, but digital content bought outside of PS+ can be shared unlimitedly if you own the game, and could probably be played on any PS4.

Note that this is just my assumption, and should in noway be taken as me stating a fact.

nevin13836d ago

lol, this stuff is crazy.

GentlemenRUs3836d ago (Edited 3836d ago )

Though can you use 2 Vita systems on one PS4 for remote share?

I was thinking on letting my younger brother link his Vita up to my PS4 so he can play the games from his Vita.

Darrius Cole3836d ago

What do you do if somebody steals you primary system?

SaffronCurse3836d ago

You can deactivate that system on Sony's account management website or you can call CS and ask them to deactivate it.

HugoDrax3836d ago

Yeap that's exactly what I did for my backwards compatible metal gear PS3 that was stolen from me...bastards!! Oh well they can keep it because in 3 weeks 11/15 I'll be upgrading lol

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mkis0076h ago

Such a good game to me. Crazy how different peoples opinions can get.

Crows906h ago(Edited 6h ago)

For me it wasn't that surprising. There was some bad press before. There's also the matter and element of a person's disposition when trying out a certain game. Sometimes you're just not really into the type of game that you're playing so you put it down because you don't like it. Not necessarily because it's a bad game but because you're just not up for something like this. Reviewers have a tough because no matter what they feel like playing they've got to play what's releasing.

I have many times gone back to games that I put down only to thoroughly enjoy them the second time around because either there wasn't another exciting game coming out around the same time or I just had no other games to play and haven't played that type of game in a while. I'm not the type of person that can just play a souls game through all this iterations one after the other without getting burnt out on the formula.

In my opinion this game was great from the start. Some bugs here and there but nothing worse than the most AAA releases during the same time after and before. All I did was wait one week and I had a phenomenal time with the game. No other zombie survival game comes close to how I thoroughly enjoyed this one

-Foxtrot4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Yeah I thought it was pretty decent, it had its flaws but for their first big console single player open world game it's a solid 8/10.

I have never seen an AAA "zombie" game feature as many enemies as the horde sections did, you really had to think about your surroundings and plan carefully.

I feel journalists had an issue with this game from the moment it was announced, they really didn't like the Biker characters and the overall Biker gang theme. If they were anything else I feel it would have had a better chance or at least they'd overlook some of the flaws like they do for certain other open world games. They don't mind waiting weeks or months for a patch knowing its coming but a game that has it Day 1 it's suddenly a big no no? Yeah this was one of those moments that showed you how they cherry pick who to suddenly decide to go harsh on when they want to.

mkis0074h ago

Ill never forget the reviewer who tried to claim the "ride me like you ride your bike" line was anything but a joke...they (sarah and deacon) explicitly call it a joke and the reviewer still misinformed the reader about it as if it was a literal thing.

Michiel19894h ago

the score on metacritic is 71 from journos, its 9 points lower than your review so stop making stuff up. They didn't hate it from the start, they on average just liked it slightly less than you.

-Foxtrot4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

@Michiel1989

I'm not making anything up, they held a grudge against it and made stuff up themselves like mkis007 has just pointed out. That 71 on Metacritic is why it didn't get a sequel.

Anyway how can I make anything up when I didn't even mention metacritic in my original post?

Leeroyw6h ago

Second act of that game far surpassed the first. Which is why people felt it didn't live up to the hype of the trailers. Personally I loved it. But it was a slog to get your bike and weapons up to skill.

Inverno5h ago

Was gonna post a brick wall of text but I'll keep it short. Pardon my French but f**k the media for the hate they gave this game. If you have a PC to play it on you can get it as low as 10 bucks, and if you have a PS then it's a no brainer. Totally worth a play.

phatak5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I don't even comment here often but had to for this game, I still stand by my opinion that this was one of the top 10 games of the ps4 generation, I preferred days gone over god of war, horizon and last of us 2, the launch version was definitely piss poor and that messed up the reviews for this game, honestly some games deserve a re-review or post patch review as the metacritic score stays forever but the reality is its not even the same game anymore, the ps5 patch is amazing and the pc version which I play on nowadays is one of the best looking games ever, complete shame that we wont get a sequel, god of war got one, horizon got one, last of us got one, spider man got one,ghosts of tshushima about to get one but this game wont get one, sucks to be honest.

Ps3/360 era had some hidden underated games for me it was shadows of the damned, alice madness returns that deserved more sales and a sequel/ higher scores, and similarly for the ps4 era it was days gone, and dying light 1 that deserved much more love, dying light atleast got a sequel, everyone needs to play this game once and judge for themselves, for me its officially the most underrated game of the ps4 era, go play it if you haven't.

andy854h ago

Awesome game. Just bought it for my laptop last week

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