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Xbox One could be sold for a profit at launch

Microsoft may make a "low margin" on the sale of Xbox One hardware at launch, the platform holder has revealed, stating that as with Xbox 360, it will continue to drive down price as the cost of manufacturing lowers.

"The strategy will continue which is that we're looking to be break even or low margin at worst on [Xbox One], and then we make money selling additional games, the Xbox LIVE service and other capabilities on top," said Microsoft's IEB CVP of marketing and strategy Yusuf Mehdi, speaking at yesterday's Citi Global Technology Conference.

"And as we can cost reduce our box as we've done with 360, we'll do that to continue to price reduce and get even more competitive with our offering."

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theWB273902d ago

Strange. Sony stated they won't be losing much money at all when they launch. Micro says the same, or even a profit.

Nintendo has been selling at a loss since launch, just announced a price drop and now are losing even more money on each console sold.

What was going on at Nintendo that Sony and Micro could make these two much more feature rich, more powerful machines and still be in a better position to make a profit. Hhhmm....

Transporter473902d ago

The Gamepad is what makes them sell it as a loss.

ArchangelMike3902d ago

Nintendo forcasted huge profitsd for the Wii U, thsat was based on projected sales. However nobody bought the console, and it became a loss.

Sony basically did away with their proprietary Cell chip, and could therefore significantly lower the cost of manufacture.

Microsoft, well get rid of the mandatory Kinect and you'll make much more in profits.

hakeem09963902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

The PS3 wasn't profitable during 70% of it's life cycle .Odly enough Netflix and free PS3 with a purchase of a Sony Tv promos are the main reason the console became profitable because a lot of people bought the PS3 as a streaming device and bought a few games too. That's y most of my friends got one . It's nice that Sony will finally make some money this time.

UnholyLight3902d ago

@hakeem0996

Funny all the downvotes. Due to the fact that at least the 70% number is true. Sony spent a long time in the hole with every PS3 manufactured they were taking a huge loss. Even at the $699 entry point they were losing money (due to the new technology and Blu Ray at the time)

DonFreezer3902d ago

What they say is meningless. If the ps4 is 40% more powerful ofcourse they are losing money but are trying to hide it.But since the rumours about the dgpu of the One seems kinda legit for Sony not losing money.

DoesUs3902d ago

The failings in your post would baffle even the greatest of minds.

Deadpoolio3902d ago

LOL There is NO DGPU...None, your that stupid that your stretching now...If there was it would be more than $500 bucks.....

And lets go with the obvious FACT. Even IF there was an NDA it's non disclosure not non develop, so NO they aren't just keeping it a secret from developers

B-radical3902d ago

id laugh if you were right tho

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YNWA963902d ago

Well, I doubt the greatest of minds would ever be on this site...

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corvusmd3902d ago

Actually most estimates put Sony making $25 profit per console at launch
http://www.gamepur.com/news...

Nitrowolf23902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

"Most estimates"
"Links to Patcher"

This Guy

Eonjay3902d ago

Several cost projections put the manufacturing cost at $400... They also factor in branding, customer service and advertising cost into the price of their console. By every estimation, a Kinectless Xbox would be at least $100 cheaper. If they are really that persistent about including it, they must really believe that they can make people want one as well. The profits will be slim, but they do have at least $50 or breathing room with each sale. Sony has about $100 to $125 in breathing room.

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iamnsuperman3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

R@D. This is Nintendo's first HD console so they are new to the whole process. Then add the tablet onto that and it is going to cost. Microsoft and Sony need this profit break generation (going HD cost a lot of money last generation). Nintendo are in that costing generation. Sony and Microsoft have that experience that Nintendo is only just getting

theWB273902d ago

I really don't know about Sony...but I do know Micro has been making a profit off of 360 hardware sales for quite awhile now...coupled with the Live earnings they're pretty.

I do know they'd be sitting even prettier had it not been for the RROD.

Just checked and Sony's been making money off of the PS3 since 2010.

I do agree about the HD transition. I remember it being hard on the devs too.

imdaboss13902d ago

lol xbone going to crap out on everybody on launch day..ms keep on doing changes trying to compete with the ps4..

HolyDuck3902d ago

Wow, you're really smart.

Microsoft are competing with Sony, who'd of thought that?

black0o3902d ago

they went after the most common parts on the planet "PC" with only a little tweaks

PSjesus3902d ago

if PS4 399$and Sony selling it for profit
Xbone inferior hardware more bulky 499$.... more than 100$ profit good job M$

DarkHeroZX3902d ago

X1 profitable? DGPU my ass.

Flames763902d ago

Sorry but sony has already confirmed that they will be losing money on each PS4 sold for the first couple of years.It will join the 5 billion loss the PS3 has takin and the 2 billion the PS Vita has taken.Xbox One will be making a tiny profit day one just as the article says.Xbox division has made billions in profit since september 2007 unlike the billion the Playstation division has lost his gen

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TheKingWilliamV3902d ago

Simply can't wait to own my X1 and play some Dead Rising 3 :-)

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andrewsqual3902d ago

Especially when people pick up that headset adapter and play and charge kit for their controller and any extra controllers they want also. Its extra money they simply would not have made if they were bundled in with it for €500

True_Samurai3902d ago

And how do you know? Are you an insider? Do you work at Microsoft? No? Well than your statement is invalid

aviator1893902d ago

I wouldn't mind him much.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18815h ago(Edited 5h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

SonyStyled1h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

jwillj2k44h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody4h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

anast3h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead1d 18h ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 16h ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 4h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie19h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere9h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin15h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere9h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Hereandthere9h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

OtterX1d 7h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

RNTody1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 6h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 4h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 4h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii15h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno13h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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