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Xbox One Kinect is a “much more integral part of the platform”, says Microsoft

Xbox One Kinect is a “much more integral part of the platform”, says Microsoft

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UltimateMaster3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

It's really the only thing that distinct itself from the PS4.
Without it, it can't really be called an "Xbox One" because it would not include everything.

JokesOnYou3909d ago

Glad to see them come out and openly promote their product, regardless of what ps fanboys say. Kinect in every box is a brilliant move.

Biggest3909d ago

This is the same song and dance we've heard since the beginning of Kinect. Everything was promised. Nothing was delivered. Here we go with more promises. I can't imagine what the outcome will be this time.

/rolls eyes

sincitysir13909d ago

then show us microsoft! i havent seen bigger games (games not made specifically for the kinect) utilize it in any interesting ways! i want microsoft to make me jealous that im not getting an xbox one. SHOW ME!!!!

ps no i didnt read the article. psh who does? /s

n4rc3909d ago

Its not all about games... At least not for me..

Kinect adds functionality.. Playing motion games is honestly the last thing on my mind when discussing it

xHeavYx3909d ago

What's there to show? The fighter within demo was laggy, there is no way to integrate Kinect in hardcore games other than limited things you yell at the tv, like Skyrim or commands for war games(I still find it weird to think of someone yelling orders to the tv)
What else? All the tv stuff for people too lazy to pick up a controller

theWB273909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

FPS- something as simple as it reading your heart rate during matches. Thus affecting your ability to aim, take a little longer to reload. All of us drop controllers during matches, it can keep track of your head movement so you can still look around for that split second it takes to pick the controller back up.

Sports- Instead of having to pause the game to substitute players, just say who you want to sub in and out and keep the flow of the game going.

One of the biggest features is the integrated body scanning so in the feature developers can implement this into games, I'm sure a ton of people would have rather had themselves as...say...Shephard instead of messing with Bioshock's create options. Again, people would rather have themselves in sports titles.

Say you have a Borderlands type game...when you have a friend over and play split screen, well hey Kinect knows who this person is and instead of pausing the game and going through the options Kinect automatically loads that persons profile and the other player is seamlessly loaded into the game. No menus.

That's only a small amount...there's no telling what the actual devs can come up with KNOWING EVERYONE has the camera.

Not to mention Oculus Rift was already used on the first Kinect. Now they have 1080p capabilities, so that tech (in the future) mixed with Kinect2 ...can you, or BrutallyHonest, not see any benefit at all?

Biggest3909d ago

Why would you want the game to imagine your body's reaction to heart rate? Shouldn't your body already be doing what your body does?

Don't most games (minus hockey) only allow substitutions during breaks? In hockey games, aren't there button presses already in order to make shift changes?

I would argue that the people wanting to be themselves in video games will want to buy Kinect. I personally enjoy video games as a bit of an escape. I can be myself all day every day. I like pretending to be Nathan Drake or Shower Handel (my most recent playthrough of New Vegas) on my down time.

I will agree that there is benefit to the Kinect. There is benefit to almost every peripheral created. However, I do not agree that anyone should be forced to pay more for an item they may or may not use.

Ju3909d ago

Why would my heart rate go up during an FPS? Since when is pressing a trigger button so physical exhausting that my heart rate goes up. huh.

xHeavYx3908d ago

@theWB27
Seriously? Those are your groundbreaking reasons?
Maybe I didn't explain myself. I said. I was hoping for groundbreaking ways of integration and things that haven't been done before.

I don't know why I take the time, but let's go through your points one by one.
The first one can't be implemented for many reasons, the most obvious ones being that, since Kinect is not required, it would give an advantage to people with Kinect disconnected, the second obvious reason is the amount of complaints there would be from people who don't want to be at disadvantage.

"All of us drop controllers during matches, I want Kinect to let me look around while I pick the remote off"
I really hope you are being sarcastic, there are so many wrong things with that argument that I don't know where to start. How often do you drop your controller? I thought the 360 controller was the best thing ever designed to perfection, and the new one has over 40 improvements! (read with an "as seen on TV" narrator voice) Don't you have to look down to see where the controller is anyways?.

Sports. 2 things, first of all, something I've been saying for a long time. Do you really want to talk to Kinect? I understand maybe saying "Xbox One", but have a conversation with it? Yelling "Fus Ro Dah"? I get embarrassed just thinking about it. Second. Like Biggest pointed out, for most sports you need to stop the game to make a substitution.

"Integrated body scanning" Again, something that has been done before, and something that no one has shown working on Kinect. It will most likely work with faces. Besides, most videogame heroes/athletes are fit. Not being disrespectful but it's the truth that most gamers are not in shape, so, your Bioshock character would be a chubby guy running around.

The "Borderlands" example. I reckon it can work, but it's something else that hasn't been shown working. What if your friends look similar? how precise is Kinect? (and don't tell me all the things that MS promised, which are the same things they promised with the first Kinect) You would still have to set your friend up in your system.

I have not heard any plans with the Oculus Rift in mind from MS.

I do see a benefit, but a very small one, just like happened with the previous Kinect

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theWB273909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

P.S.- They can't show you unless developers know the camera will be there. Being that it's still the transitional period and the consoles haven't even been released...it may take a few years.

As we know now- DICE, Turn10, CD Projekt Red, Activision, Rare, Double Helix, Capcom Vancouver, Crytek, are just a few of the developers making use of Kinect out of the gate.

@xHeavYx

I'm glad you aren't a developer. The less creative people in the business the better. If you think there isn't a single way to integrate Kinect then you're lacking some serious vision.

The bit about the tv stuff being for lazy people...isn't the remote used by people who don't want to get up and flip through every channel by the tv or cable box?

EDIT- Give me a game and I'd be happy to.

xHeavYx3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

Care to share with me how Kinect can be integrated in new ways for hardcore games?
EDIT pick any game/games you want

Boody-Bandit3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

xHeavYx

If MS hasn't shown us all by now how Kinect can be an integral part in gaming they never will. Kinect will be nothing more than a gimmicky extension / tacked on feel to hardcore gaming that isn't necessary to use and wouldn't be better served with traditional controls and a standard microphone.

If this wasn't true MS wouldn't have invested time and money into making their XBOX ONE controller 15% more accurate / responsive than the 360 controller.

Motion controls are so last generation.
If MS really believed Kinect was such an integral part of the X1 they would've never budged on making it not mandatory and are including a stand alone mic with the purchase of an X1. I'm betting, which I feel is a no-brainer safe bet, there will be a lower priced Kinect-less SKU in the not too distant future.

SilentGuard3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

MS should sell the Kinect and not rely on third party developers to sell it for them. They want to include Kinect in every box than they need to justify the higher price they are charging. Yet NOT ONE Kinect game available for launch. Not One feature that gives a wow factor. Just more promises of what it might bring. Even Ryse which was supposed to be a Kinect game was remade to use a controller. Good move as they probobly saved Ryse from the shovelware bin.

THamm3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

They tireless keep defending Kinect, man I wish they would take it out, drop the msrp and get it over with already. They are facing millions of future losses because of this... MS listen closely, "gamers forgive and forget, well maybe not forget, look at EA every year"

admiralvic3909d ago

Ever hear of the expression "Every man has his price"?

Simply put, people might not forgive / forget / accept or even like what happens, but there is something that will make them compromise their principals for it.

Like if Capcom offered Megaman Legends 3 / Rockman Dash 3 for $80 dollars, then there would be some complaints, but the game would STILL sell. Too many hardcore fans want to see this series continue and will overlook any negative things Capcom has done in order to get it.

If M$ announced a new Conker, then I might rent or maybe even buy an XB1 if it can match the original in terms of awesomeness.

If Nintendo announced Mother anything U (be it a remake, new game, or whatever), then you would no doubt see people viewing the Wii U in a new light.

Long story short... people care about their issues / principals till something happens that changes it. Typically it's easier to just do a token thing for the community than actually admit fault or apply effort towards changing.

JediDiah3909d ago

Major Nel said so was "always online"....well we know how that turned out.

Pascalini3909d ago

Get a life it's part of the machine just like phones have cameras

Go and cry somewhere els if you are so broke you can't afford an extra 90 pound. Hell I've got shoes that cost more than that.

Anyhow we get FIFA 14 free too plus a mic (not an ear bud like ps4)

Better value all round on xb1

xHeavYx3909d ago

Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night...

cyclindk3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

Your shoes make you walk run or jump any better? Not really. And Kinect won't do jack most likely this gen either.

And I'd actually like it to, because gesture recognition tech is great, the devs just don't use the shi$.

THamm3909d ago (Edited 3909d ago )

If MS was thinking of you they wouldn't change their initial plans. The biggest market, here in the USA, we don't get FIFA, not yet. $90-100 can go on an extra controller or game which would be much more useful than 2 useless kinects(360) in a living room. BTW if it wasn't for the PS4 you wouldn't have a mic either. Funny how everyone talks now but in the reveal not one person defended the Xbox1. MS shifted to try to tame the losses not make you happy

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812h ago(Edited 1h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

jwillj2k41h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot27m ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody54m ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

anast17m ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead1d 15h ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 13h ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow1d 21h ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 1h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie15h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere6h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin12h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere6h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Hereandthere6h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

OtterX1d 4h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

RNTody1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 3h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 1h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 1h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii12h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno10h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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