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PS1 and PS2 Games Will Come to Gaikai

Sony have today confirmed that legacy PlayStation titles will hopefully be making their way to the Gaikai service on PlayStation 4 some time after launch.

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s8anicslayer3956d ago

Great but will I have to pay for games I already own? Please don't treat us like the PSP GO!

iamnsuperman3956d ago

No doubt. I assume it quite costly to get people to send in old PS1 and 2 games just so you can get them for free. There not that expensive to buy again (2 or 3 quid) if you want to reminisce. Or you can probably get a PS1 or 2 pretty cheap in a charity/ resale shop.

s8anicslayer3956d ago

Gaikai just might be a subscription service and for one fee you'll have access to all content.

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AbortMission3956d ago

@malokevi What a pathetic Xbot

DragonKnight3956d ago

@malokevi: So how many Xbox 360 games will you be able to play on the Xbox One?

minimur123956d ago

I'm thinking it'll be like playstation plus +

For example, the Ps plus version of D-club is limited, but shu said you can unlock the rest of it - maybe a premium ps plus??

which nets you access to gaikai aswell?

Kryptix3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

@malokevi
Yea? Did you take a $h*t on your keyboard and that's what came out? lol Sony is trying to get those PS1 and PS2 titles out there as quickly as possible after launch. At least they're trying while you're a contradiction because you aren't even trying to be a good troll...the easiest job in any internet community. You don't even meet the minimum requirement cause you're missing a brain. lol
Good day sir. :P

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Kryptix3956d ago

@malokevi
lol Nope, I'm perfectly fine but what I know is that you're delusional because you just brought up two things that haven't been shown yet. I can say the same thing about certain specs but I won't...because I wouldn't know what the fu I'm really talking about. But you seem overly confident with something with no video proof. Do you also believe in the Easter Bunny because mommy told you? It's ok, you'll snap out of your delusional phase someday. :)

DragonKnight3956d ago

@malokevi: "Teh Powah ov da Kloud!!!" "300,000 servers!!" "Kloud Komputing is like having 3 Xbox One's in one konsollllll"

user55757083956d ago

@s8anicslayer

i could see an $8 a month deal like netflix or free if you join playstation plus

if they dont do a subscription i still wouldn't understand why your purchases wouldn't transfer over to the next console if you're using the same account on the ps4 that people have had for years on ps3

mewhy323956d ago

The news coming from Sony is getting more and more and more pro gamer. Not like the garbage coming from micro$oft.

gaffyh3956d ago

It'll be like a second tier to PS+, probably called PlayStation World which is what was rumoured earlier.

ShiftyLookingCow3956d ago

Who the f**k is going to send their physical disks in for the right to play streaming games?

The PS4 is a 100% capable of emulating both PS1 and PS2.

WickedLester3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

Like others have said, I think it's going to be subscription based "buffet" style ala Netflix. I'm fine with that seeing as how I don't even own physical copies of PS1 and PS2 games anymore. The question is, what will it cost? I'm thinking that Sony is going to introduce a tiered PS Plus system where you'll pay a less expensive subscription fee for basic Plus without Gaikai and a more expensive fee for "Premium" Plus that includes Gaikai.

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matgrowcott3956d ago

I don't think you'll need to buy anything individually. Rather, it'll be a subscription service.

So on the one hand, you'll have to pay again to get games you already bought. On the other, that same price will probably include tens if not hundreds of other games.

nnodley3956d ago

Yeah this is what I think it will be. I wonder if they are gonna add different tiers to ps+. Like the regular one will be like the one now with MP as well(can't forget that). Then maybe they will have one for another $10-$20 to add gaikai streaming. And then maybe if someone doesn't care about online they can just do gaikai only for $30 or something. So buying them in a bundle would get you a discount. Hope that makes sense.

ShiftyLookingCow3956d ago

This is better but Sony will be even more favorably viewed if they allow the original disks. The PS4 has more than enough power to emulate the older consoles.

Thirty3Three3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

They've announced this a while back, already. They just said they're focusing on PS3 games first...

I like how I got a downvote. People need to listen more. They've already confirmed it.

cleft53956d ago

I am thinking this will be a subscription based service. Probably will have it's own monthly or yearly fee.

ginsunuva3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

If you purchased ps2/1 games off the ps store, you'll probably get them in gaikai free, but I still think there will be a subscription model instead.

All ps1 games for $1 per month
All ps2 games for $2 per month
All ps3 games for $5 per month

Or all three for $7 a month

How does something like that sound?

Edit: i just realized $5 a month for all ps3 games is a little too cheap

dcj05243956d ago

Maybe a little more and boom you own all the games you need.

nnodley3956d ago

I like that idea. you should work for sony and pitch this idea. That is if they aren't already thinking about something like this. lol

NightStalker333956d ago

It would be fantastic, but I doubt Sony would part with its massive library for so cheap. I'm guessing you'll be able to download individual games for a set price. A subscription style would be interesting though.

WickedLester3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

I think 84.00 per year is OK for non Plus subscribers. However if you're already a Plus subscriber that price is way too much to honest. If you already are paying 59.99 per year for basic Plus, I could see maybe Sony offering a "Premium" Plus package for say, 89.99 that includes Gaikai streaming. Not many are going to pay 85 bucks for Gaikai on top of the 59.99 they're already paying for Plus.

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FamilyGuy3956d ago

I'm thinking it's either going to be a netflicks like subscription service where you pay $10 a month and can play anything they have available or, i it's game-by-game purchase then the prices should be really low.

If they come up with a goo way to price this service it could be an epic system seller in an of itself. Helping to migrate more of the PS3 crowd into upgrading to the PS4.

The eventual Vita support should be huge too

KingKevo3956d ago

I'm assuming that games you bought digitally will be free, but if you only own a physical copy you will have to pay again, simply because there's no easy way to verify that you currently own and will always own the game.

FamilyGuy3956d ago

You could put the disc in the drive while you're playing and have the PS4 verify its authenticity allowing you to stream the Gaikai version free.

Just because the PS4 can't play the game doesn't mean it can't verify what's on the disc.

KingKevo3955d ago

That's actually an interesting idea if it would also work if you had the disc in your PS4 and do not want to use/waste the laser basically and maybe get some better loading times. But those games are PS1-3 games and I'm not sure how easy it would be for Sony to verify that copy because it can only see that it's a disc but not read that disc to verify it and if it can also see what's on the disc, how does it know that the game is a legal copy. I'm assuming that this might attract some hackers who would try to trick the PS4 and stream games they don't own.

I don't really care though. I'm either guessing that Gaikai will be subscription based (one fee for the entire library or maybe only the PS3 or 2 or 1 library, something like that, or a small fee peer game which would be ok too if it wasn't more than 15$/€ for a PS3 10 for a PS2 and 5 for a PS1 game, hopefully less.

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EmptySkyForm3956d ago

Give these games trophy support and I'll happily rebuy them.

DragonKnight3956d ago

That's not possible. PS2 classics that have trophy support on PSN were remade to have trophy support. Streaming PS2 games is not remaking them so I guess you're not going to be buying any of them.

matgrowcott3956d ago

It'd be perfectly possible. Sony even patented the "trigger" method of having trophies pop, which would make sense on a digital, online only platform.

http://www.freepatentsonlin...

wishingW3L3956d ago

FF7 on Steam has achievements. Not hard at all.

DragonKnight3956d ago

@matgrowcott: I totally forgot about that. Thanks. :)

@wishingW3L: That was a re-release that can allow for the inclusion of achievements. Not the same thing.

_FantasmA_3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

Stop with the trophy support. Not every game needs it. Matter of fact,I wish trophies would just die out, and this is coming from someone who collects them. But I feel like I play way too much games because of them and worse, sometimes I play good games until I end up hating them just for that damn Platinum :( Some things should just stay in the past. Why mess with a good thing? If you won't play a good for the sake of the experience/nostalgia then you aren't a real gamer. Play for fun, you heard of that?

EmptySkyForm3956d ago

Keep it to yourself. I don't need your point of view. Stay Free

WickedLester3956d ago

I don't get why people would still want to play PS1 and PS2 games at this point anyway. They look ugly as F_ _ ck on HDTV's. I'd rather re purchase HD remixes.

Dogteeth3956d ago

Damnit....

Some time after launch.

xReDeMpTiOnx3956d ago

More good news. Looks like Sony might have another ps2 era

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What Will The PlayStation 6 Look Like?

While we haven't even begun to tap into the full potential of the PS5, fans are already beginning to talk about what Sony's next console, the PlayStation 6, will look like and what features it will have.

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Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“While we haven't even begun to tap into the full potential of the PS5“

We always here this statement yet we have plenty of games that struggle to run at solid frame rates or decent resolutions.

Skuletor2d ago

The developers should know the limits of these consoles, especially this far into the gen. I'd blame them and possibly the publishers, pushing to make games as visually appealing as possible at the cost of resolution and frame rate, which is nothing new in the industry.

franwex1d 13h ago

I may skip next gen altogether probably. We will see.

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Diablo IV is Available on PlayStation Cloud Gaming - Beats Xbox to the Punch

Diablo IV is now available to play via PlayStation Cloud Gaming! Still not available to Play on Xbox Cloud Gaming.

We ran our script again and found 15 other PS5 games (a lot of popular ones!) that got PS5 Cloud Gaming support within the last month as well.

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Hugodastrevas5d ago

Not for me, I'm 100% physical media all of the time.

jwillj2k45d ago

I hate that I have to keep calling this out, but your physical disks mean nothing if the game code attempts to connect to a server prior to playing.

Hugodastrevas5d ago

And that happens when? I'm playing completely offline here, stellar Blade to be more precise.
I'm sorry but I've never run into that imaginary problem you're talking about, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it has never happened to me.

jwillj2k45d ago

You not running into the problem yet has no bearing on my argument. You’re acting like the medium is the shield for you being able to always play your games when it effectively is not. The game code itself can try to connect to a server or the console you’re playing on may receive an update that requires that game to connect to a server. Just because you haven’t ran into it doesn’t mean anything lol you don’t own your games no matter how you try.

Hugodastrevas5d ago

So I have never run into the problem you're talking about and your answer is an hypothetical? Look I can play any game of my library offline right now without issue.
That issue is in your mouth and alone.

Crows905d ago

Actually...there's an easy way...don't connect. If it doesn't require a connection and you don't connect...the code can't update...obviously....confused why you don't get what he's saying.

outsider16245d ago

Hold on..lets say i dnt have an online connection, can i atleast play the game offline though. Was thinking of getting this

jwillj2k44d ago

None of you use your brains.

OK, let’s explore this playing offline. not talking about Diablo specifically just gaming in general.

Are you going to buy two PlayStations? One offline one online? If not, moment you want to play something that requires a connection you’re cooked.

Does game experience you love so much stay the same offline?

Is the game even playable offline?

The whole point of my argument is that we don’t hold the keys anymore. The gatekeepers are the developers and console makers regardless of whether it’s digital or physical. You altering your play style for a lesser experience is not a workaround, it doesn’t solve the overall problem.

None of this matters since the move to the cloud is inevitable.

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spicelicka5d ago

So you have to buy the game and can only stream to the PS5 devices using PS plus premium? What is the point of that. Much more useful when you can stream to other devices.

MrNinosan5d ago

Works great on my Portal while at work 👍

spicelicka5d ago

That's streaming off your PS5, not from the cloud. This is specifically referring to cloud gaming.

CrimsonWing695d ago

Can’t you, uh, do this on your phone?

Tacoboto5d ago

Sony doesn't yet have a web or app-based solution to stream games off their cloud service, the closest you may be able to get would be Remote Play if they allow cloud streaming during a Remote session.

And yes this applies to the Portal too.

Einhander19724d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Tacoboto

Please stop talking about PlayStation Streaming, you don't know what you're talking about.

I just explained this to you the other day where you were telling people that remote play was their only cloud solution, because apparently you didn't understand how PlayStation Premium works even though PS Now was a thing since shortly after the launch PS4..

You can stream to PC and Mac, and they had mobile clients for it in the past but probably for the same reason Microsoft is fighting Apple and Google PS Now wasn't allowed on App stores. Which is why it's not on iPhone and Android still.

And to be honest, I am glad they are trying to keep it on the console, all their moves away from the console seem like a step in the wrong direction, which isn't working so great for Microsoft...

anast5d ago

Blizzard is shoving this game everywhere. Diablo 4 is going to take an even bigger hit soon. Path of exile 2 is coming out and it looks insane.

Crows905d ago

Well they're about to release the next season...I think that might be way they're pushing the game again.

anast4d ago

I mean I get what you are saying, but D4 isn't doing that well either.

UnbreakableAlex5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I completed it on gamepass. Thanks God I dint pay it full price. It plays like a lazy mobile game. I am not a pro diablo gamer (Diablo 1 was the only one I completed) but D4 has no atmosphere, no creepy feeling and soundtrack like the first one and its so easy, I managed to not buy any weapon and had 4 Million Credits on level 55. I always used the same 4 attacks from the beginning and died maybe 10-15 times. It's so easy, wtf. I remember D1 to be pretty hard.
WTF happened? Is Diablo 3 also that bad?

jwillj2k45d ago

Diablo 3 was my first Diablo game. I had to use the mailbox cheats to keep it interesting.

Crows905d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Diablo 3 was really hard at launch....then they made it easy.

They love scaling difficulty though.

anast4d ago

D2 is the pinnacle. I still fire it up from time to time.

GrmpyolGamer 5d ago

Considering that the PS cloud steaming is garbage compared to XCloud and is limited to certain devices this isn't something to brag about. Wake me up when Diablo is on PS plus

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PlayStation Doesn't Need a Dedicated PC Store Launcher

With all the PlayStation games that are now coming to PC, is it time for Sony to release a dedicated PC launcher?

thorstein21d ago

No, and they already solved any need with the overlay that's coming.

Vits21d ago

Unless they are trying to kill their recently created PC business, I would advise against opening a dedicated PC store. It's an extremely hard endeavor, and people, in general, are very comfortable with Steam. Even Epic, with their billions of dollars invested, is still struggling to find a foothold, and they have Fortnite.

just_looken20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Money is one thing security is another but again millions have 0 knowledge past 2020.

Epic store for years struggled with a shopping cart/account theft/credit card theft

Rockstar launcher/store to this day over 5 years later still has horrific user interface security flaws lost account's and stolen CC

Then you got that activision need phone number oh we lost it launcher

The crown jewel is the ea launcher/store ea app 3 yrs old still has hundreds of threads were people lost games/accounts/game access or just straight up crashes.

Edit" Oh ubi launcher were you buy a game that may or may not be there again or work and the launcher 5yrs old still has no 4K support if you launch it on a 4k screen there is a high chance it will just crash.

ocelot0720d ago

Can tell who ever put this together is not all that clued up on pc gaming.

It's just a known fact. The PC gaming community prefer Steam and Steam alone. They don't like different launchers. I personally don't mind them. But majority just stick with steam. Hence why EA and Ubisoft went back to on releasing on steam and why Microsoft release games on steam as people hated buying from the windows store.

The only other launchers that I imagine are doing ok is GOG due to being drm free and epic games due to the free games every week. Sony shouldn't release any sort of pc launcher n

Nitrowolf220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

It literally says in the OP that PC gamers don't like multiple launchers lol. It even mentions Steam being the go to for gamers

Tacoboto20d ago

Title: "PlayStation Doesn't Need a Dedicated PC Store Launcher"

N4G: "Can tell who ever put this together is not all that clued up on pc gaming"

When you don't even read the headline...

ocelot0720d ago

I read it and had a brain fart. As read the title then this "With all the PlayStation games that are now coming to PC, is it time for Sony to release a dedicated PC launcher?"

So I hold my hands up on that mistake. Rest of my comment still stands.

Giblet_Head20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Steam and GOG are highly preferred because of the rich feature set. Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, Epic etc have all set a precedent over the years for customers to instinctively expect individual publisher launchers to be so extremely half-assed that the majority simply don't want to bother dealing with what is almost an inevitable disappointment by comparison to Steam or GOG. Those publishers and their inaction or general disinterest to improve have effectively ruined any future adoption to be taken seriously.

Einhander197220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

This is just another ridiculous double standard article.

It's like how Microsoft can spend 20 years of making nothing but gaas and live service style games to sell microtransactions, dlc and subscriptions and get praise for doing it, but if Sony wants to make a single game like that every website under the sun is writing articles saying how Sony is anti-consumer or whatever.

derek20d ago

Yep, huge double standard look at the tortured reaction to the ps5pro, websites hyperventilating like Sony is forcing people to buy it.

just_looken20d ago

Wait my xbox from 2004 has avengers gaas on it? wow your so smart

m$ Gaas started with the other companies like sony

Gamepass yes they are deep into that but its still a huge money saver sense you do not own your games then get a service like that.

Now there pc xbox launcher that is trash for years now

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