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Microsoft and the Xbox One Could Still Have Kept Its Vision

If Microsoft had taken a slightly different approach, they wouldn't have necessarily had to sacrifice their ultimate vision. The article explains some potential alternatives.

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Mounce3964d ago

Their vision of screwing gamers over is probably far from dead XP

PolygonalSlant3965d ago

I agree man. They should have just added 3G cards to every system, like what the amazon kindle does.

Cueil3964d ago

no, but the checkup would be handled through that

zeal0us3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

Yes on a good signal the latency stay below ~250ms and DL speed ~3Mbits for CDMA. HSPA however has higher DL/UL rate than CMDA.

4G LTE has a lower latency, which is even better for gaming online and streaming. Also a higher DL/UL rate which great for downloading and uploading.

I used to play Mass Effect 3 MP while using my 3G Usb Modem. Heck I even download the DLC for it, though it took a while.

loulou3964d ago

he is talking about the 3g cards for the check in. not for gaming on-line. m$ did say that it was kbs of data that needed to be sent.

HugoDrax3964d ago

Actually you could, as I use to play COD Modern Warfare 2 tethering my iPhone running on edge network. Back when I was running a jailbroken iPhone 1, I was also in a party chat, and didn't experience any lag during my xbox live multiplayer matches. So yes you could actually game on 3G.

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JokesOnYou3964d ago

"Microsoft should still allow people to opt-in. We can’t dwell on what could have been, let’s look to the future with the Xbox One. The fact of the matter remains that many of the ambitious ideas Microsoft had with their console don’t need to be abandoned. There are still many among us that have great internet connections and don’t mind the 24 hour server ping. Maybe with your Xbox Live Gold subscription, Microsoft could allow its users to opt into many of these cloud features. They could still move forward in their vision, and have people opt in once the internet infrastructure in their areas improve. They shouldn’t have to fully concede their vision just because the Playstation 4 made some direct attacks."

-Thats what Ive been saying ecery since the reversal, micro has hinted that this may happen...I hope so it would be another huge difference between the brands and I think once most folks get a taste of how convenient this plan can be it will put X1 in a very strong position.

HugoDrax3964d ago

I definitely would like to opt in for the original policies as well. I loved the idea of family sharing, I loved the idea of no longer needing disc. Due to this, I was never going to step foot into a GameStop ever again. I would queue my downloads in advanced and my games would download to my console while I sleep.

Also I don't like loaning out any of my games, and this would give me another reason to tell my friends to download/buy their own copies lol. Although, I did pre order my XB1 & PS4 day one consoles at GameStop, so I guess I'll have to step foot in there 2 more times lmao.

Game on GAMERS....

JokesOnYou3964d ago

Tweets from Aaron Greenberg:

Aaron Greenberg ‏@aarongreenberg 20 Jun
@Mr_Achilles Digital benefits like no disc @ home,digital library access anywhere & Live Gold for anyone who uses my box are still all there

Aaron Greenberg ‏@aarongreenberg 21 Jun
@JeremyTrifilo If you have a Live Gold Membership at home, anyone who uses your console or has an account on it can use the benefits.

Aaron Greenberg ‏@aarongreenberg 24 Jun
@realfabianscott If you buy digital, you can instantly switch with no discs and access your library from anywhere.

Aaron Greenberg ‏@aarongreenberg 24 Jun
@PNF4LYFE I suspect majority of consumers still will decide to be connected and the benefits of that.

Aaron Greenberg ‏@aarongreenberg 26 Jun
@SgtHarvey actually almost all of the features are still there. If you buy digital you have no disc and remote access to entire library

https://twitter.com/aarongr...

-So it looks as though except for the family share plan most of the perks are still there if you go the digital route....I'm definitely done with gamestop.

Shadonic3965d ago

Why not just offer both ways.

GodGinrai3964d ago

Thats what puzzles me too. They could apply their Ideas to digital downloads while keeping the current physical based model we have always used for physical copies of games.

Cueil3964d ago

they plan to from what I understand, but I think they'll have to rework a deal with publishers... some may want to opt out

JokesOnYou3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

Shadonic I agree, clearly they have the resources and infrastructure to support it. Like Cueil said I think they dad to go back to the negotiating table with publishers. Again I think they might be leaning towards such plans which would be a huge plus for all types of gamers.

Grown Folks Talk3964d ago

They could've. Then you'd be complaining that they did. Amazing how virtually every media outlet bashed the original vision, now there's 10 articles a day stating they shouldn't have changed.

GodGinrai3964d ago

Tbh MS are in for a rough time at least till after the console launches and all the dust settles. They have some good Ideas but their failure to communicate them properly got them into this situation. And I say that as somebody that mostly plays on x360.

They have a good product, although I do think it needs to shed $100/euros. I can see that hurting them initially. along with the bad games press. but once they get the wind in their sails they will do fine.

I noticed alot of people on N4g these days are suddenly indie evangelists. Aint these the same people that are always telling us how important exclusive triple A production values and hi fidelity graphics are..a far cry from an indie title but whatever.

That said The indie scene is important...how else would we get the minecrafts and journeys of this world? on that alone MS should allow self publishing on X1. Not to appease N4G hypocrites, who had no intention of supporting MS regardless. Thats why I dont respond to certain people on here. Their opinion is right up their ass! lol

theWB273964d ago

I didn't understand why they didn't offer both ways...an offline system that was seriously gimped for features and the always online system.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest7d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN6d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan6d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor5d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic5d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv725d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts5d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares6d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv726d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka6d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion6d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer6d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow16d ago (Edited 6d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer6d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar6d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn6d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18816d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast6d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning776d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning776d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning776d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast6d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning776d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast5d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv726d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes6d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7211d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle11d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio10d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7710d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga11d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7210d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199210d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218311d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga11d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan10d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit10d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2310d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7210d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier10d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan9d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10111d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-10d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10111d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead10d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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