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Why the Wii U may not gain back the hardcore gaming community.

Since the 1980’s, Nintendo has been one of the biggest, most widely known names in the video games industry, and a dominating force in sales, not only with home consoles but also with handhelds, as well as their various video game franchises: Mario, Pokemon, Metroid, Zelda...you name it. The company’s longest run of success was perhaps from the release of the original Nintendo Entertainment system in 1985, up until about the time the Nintendo Game Cube was released in 2001.

Akuma-4179d ago (Edited 4179d ago )

its because most core gamers arent fools. core gamers know what they want hence the name and most are in the know about the console manufacturers and their recent history.

core gamers got red steel and other low quality offerings on the wii so theyll know that a few core games doesn't mean much. postering or posing like a core gamers machine of choice wont fool many.

when it comes to a company like sony with the playstation brand, the core who are in the know knows that sony has been catering to them from the beginning of playstation and the renaissance of gaming. people often thinks ps move is a failure without realising that playstation focusses on core gamers first and others after. sony would love if ps move was doing better but i have no doubt that no matter the success of ps move that sony would never abandon the core or betray them like nintendo

ape0074179d ago (Edited 4179d ago )

so if u have a wiiu then you are not a core gamer

and if have a ps3 you are core gamer

that's the N4G logic right, no wonder why everyone makes fun of this site

Phil324179d ago

Agreed with ape007. The logic on this site just proves that gamers are immature manchildren who would rather play console and fanboy wars than actually play games. Hint: Console manufacturers don't give a damn about you. They give a damn about your money, so stop with the cheerleading.

live2play4179d ago (Edited 4179d ago )

if by hardcore gamers you mean all those 12 year olds screaming insults in your ear then then no
i hope it nevers gains the hardcore

miiverse is PERFECT without them

ShaunCameron4179d ago

And what is a "core" gamer exactly?

@ ape007
<that's the N4G logic right, no wonder why everyone makes fun of this site>

Actually it's no wonder why "core gamers" get no respect in the real world.

neogeo4179d ago

A core gamer is someone that is fat, does not shower, lives in moms basement, drinks energy drinks and has low muscle tone.

also tends to have porn addition.

daclynk4179d ago (Edited 4179d ago )

When did Nintendo betray the core. I got my original IPs on wii and I enjoyed every bit of it. so yeah answer me? when did Nintendo leave the core? Fanboys and Haters are so stupid to limit themselves to only one console. i get it if you don't have the money to buy multiply consoles. You are so missing out on many greats games out there. but to brand yourself to a company is so stupid and delusional.
Happy Gaming.

chriski3334179d ago

I have a ps3 sold my 360 2 weeks ago and got lucky about a week ago i picked up a 32gb wii u haven't opened it yet i want to keep kind off but i know i can make some $ off it right now but if nintendo can make some cool core games i might just keep it

MNGamer-N4179d ago

Keep it and play Zombi U

kobonline4179d ago

One of the most idiotic posts of the day.

AWBrawler4179d ago

I'll never understand people who think any of the big 3 cares more for the core than the other. Truth is they care about profits. And for the record the PS1 and PS2 were flooded with casual games well before wii even existed. I assure the 120 million owners of PS2 were not all hardcore. Not even half were. Just look at the sales numbers of hardcore titles. Nothing sold 60 mill

AO1JMM4179d ago

Akuma- You are not a core gamer!

deafdani4179d ago (Edited 4179d ago )

"Core gamers in the know", as you call them, would be aware that the Wii had a fuckton of core games: Sin & Punishment, Little King's Story, Mario Galaxy , Super Mario Galaxy 2, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Metroid: Other M, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, No More Heroes 1 & 2, MadWorld, Sonic Colors, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (and Metroid Prime Trilogy), Mario Kart Wii, Smash Bros Brawl, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, Zelda Twilight Princess, Zelda Skyward Sword, Excitetruck, Excitebots, all the Trauma Center games, Red Steel 2, Zack & Wiki, Punch Out!! and many more; those are just some games that come to mind.

Or are you one of these deceived people that think that a core game = blood, tits and swearwords?

Also... "Sony would never abandon the core or betray them like Nintendo"? LOL. Get real, dude. They would do exactly what Nintendo did with the Wii if they knew it would earn them thousands of hundreds of millions of dollars. Neither Sony nor Nintendo nor Microsoft do ANYTHING of what they out out of a strange sense of allegiance to their consumers; they do it to sell stuff and earn money. Stop being so naive.

Not that it really matters, anyway, because as I already stated, Nintendo didn't betray the core gamers. They actually made a fuckton of superb games for the Wii, but third party devs didn't. However, the reason that Nintendo changed their strategy with the Wii was because they ended being dead last the previous two console generations... as in, they were pretty much "abandoned", or "betrayed" by the core gamers first.

Unknow_Master4178d ago

he probably squat someone basement just to troll

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MNGamer-N4179d ago

I love my Wii U so far. The graphics are great, they have some kinks to iron out which we all can expect from a new system. I want to play Pikimin 3 right now tho... Lots of great Nintendo franchises about to drop in the next year or 2.. too many to count. CODBO2 for wii U is amazing, you MFR's kill me so fast I'm embarrassed of myself.

neogeo4179d ago

If you have any doubts about the power of your WiiU. Think about this. All the ports that have come out so far are programmed ass backwards and still on par with ps3/360. Yes I said backwards. The ps3/360 are built around a weak gpu and strong cpu's to back esp PS3. The WiiU is completely the opposite. So i'm impressed how the games looks run so well using engines that are not made for it. The future is bright.

Gamer784179d ago

A CORE GAMER WITH BRAND LOYALTY IS THE FOOL. I OWN MULTIPLE SYSTEMS SO I CAN PLAY ANYTHING I WANT AT ANYTIME. I AM A CORE GAMER. IF YOU FEEL BETRAYED BY A COMPANY BECAUSE OF THE HARDWARE THEY PRODUCE, YOU HAVE ISSUES AND REALLY SHOULD NOT CALL YOURSELF A CORE GAMER. I MEAN IF HARDWARE MAKES YOU A CORE GAMER, THEN YOU SHOULD ONLY PLAY PC GAMES AND STICK TO THEM.

deafdani4179d ago

I WRITE IN CAPS LOCK TO MAKE MY ARGUMENTS MORE IMPORTANT.

jmc88884179d ago (Edited 4179d ago )

Renaissance of gaming? Look even in the 1983 crash, people were still expanding their gaming experience, there were just a glut of crap.

Gaming never had a renaissance, because it never took a dive. People refused to buy crap, thus the COMPANIES took a hit and folded. That's a big difference.

Recent history or any history doesn't equate the future, also you might want to realize all of gaming history and even then, it doesn't portend the future. But instead people have this mindset of the future of Nintendo that it's always going to be a 'Wii' system. That's incredibly asinine. It's like saying the X team will always be good. X carmaker will always put out a good car. X this or that is always one way or another. It's just plain false and retarded really.

The fact remains that unlike the Wii, the Wii U can run the same engines the 360/PS3 and most if not all the PS4/720 will run...because hint, the 360/PS3 are already using them.

Therefore there is no reason to think 3rd parties won't put out games on systems capable because they want lower sales of their IP's because they don't want to tap into a big market like Nintendo's consoles are.

Being a core gamer has nothing to do with one's perception of Nintendo. Nor is linking Nintendo's perception across generations, especially when thinking of recent generations and forgetting the earlier ones.

The Wii U is capable of core games, it will receive core games. People think Nintendo is going to go to devs and say....we are not going to let you put a 'core game' on our system.

Do people REALLY THINK that idiotic? Do they really think that Nintendo is run BY an 8 year old? Because for all the 'mature' games many people like to play, me included, a certain subset come up with ideas LIKE an 8 year old.

Wii U has core games, more core games are coming out, and more will continue to come out. People that think otherwise don't know a wheel is round.

jessupj4179d ago

But what happens when the PS4/720 come out and are vastly more powerful than the Wii U and thus 3rd party support disappears?

The core gamer's want a real next gen console. Not a machine that's slightly better than current gen consoles.

As a ps3/pc owner, I have no incentive to buy a wii U.

Gr814179d ago

A pc gamer I'm surprised you even have a ps3 or looking forward to ps4.
Simply because ps3/360 are nothing but jr. Pc's

RFornillos44179d ago

how "vast" would that be, is the question? and how sure are you 3rd parties will abandon Wii U?

the problem with your analysis is that you make it seem that the "graphics-power" difference of the Wii U and the nextbox/ps4 will be similar to that of the Wii/PS3-Xbox360. the reason devs seemingly abandon the Wii was that porting a game to it was too costly, and will immensely affect the quality of the game because of the major difference in hardware specs. this is not the case for Wii U.

recent news are suggesting that PS4 and XBox720 may not even be that "immensely" powerful when compared to Wii U. which means, they would be more powerful than the Wii U, but not much. now, given they are all rumors and not yet final till we hear it from them come E3, i don't think they'll be willing to go ultra-powerful and sell at a loss when they come out.

given that they will only have a slight edge over Wii U, devs would have a reason to go multiplatform for the three, as opposed to going exclusive. take into account that most dev companies (other than first part or 2nd party ones) are driven by sales and not by loyalty to a particular console. if they see that Wii U has a strong installed base, i doubt they will abandon the console. at most, they will go multiplat.

As a PC/Wii/PS3/Xbox360 owner who enjoys games regardless of company, I will buy a Wii U; and whatever the other two will offer.

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RiseNShine5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno4d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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