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Why Microsoft Won The Next-Gen By Losing This Gen

Zach of C-TechWorld.com writes;
Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo all did very well this generation. Although it is not quite over, it’s safe to say that the next generation of consoles isn’t too far away from right now.

If we look at the history of the last two generations, and if we were to decide a winner of each of those by sales figures (whether or not all sales were gaming related) it’s clear Sony won both.

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LX-General-Kaos4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

I think Microsoft has a very fair chance to win next generation. Their brand awareness has drastically increased from last Gen, and they bring to the table the greatest online gaming structure in the history and likely future of gaming.

I myself use Xbox live as my go to service as far as competitive gaming is concerned. Within this current generation alone it would be Nintendo for my single player experiences, and Microsoft for the majority of my online competitive play. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I personally predict Nintendo and Microsoft having a very close race to the 1st place finish by the end of next generation. Obviously only time will tell.

Rated E For Everyone

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Captain Qwark 94210d ago

i think your nuts. the race will be between sony and ms for sure. i coldnt care less who wins so long as they both do great. sort of like this gen, the more success each gets, the more we win

nintendo is no longer my cup of tea and even though they kicked ass this gen and will likely do well next gen, i have no interest in the wii u at the moment

BlackTar1874210d ago

sad day when people call themselves gamer down vote your post full of Gamer win.

Unless it was the Nintendo line then i dunno.

but as gamers we want it to be close all the way down the stretch so their is incentive for exclusives and mutually awesome Mutli plats.

Captain Qwark 94209d ago

@blacktar

agreed lol. this site is very pro-sony though which is fine, they are a great company with a great system but there is no need to bash the others regularly lol.

unless it was the nintendo line but i hope they are successful as well. i didnt bash them, just said i dont have interest in them at this moment lol although the new mario is great.

Monkeycan84210d ago

how do you have so many bubbles???

greenpowerz4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

Well said

The spin in this article and from Sony fans makes American republicans look like school girls even more do after MSFT's report/last nights debate.

starchild4210d ago

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Democrats and Republicans are guilty of spin.

mamotte4210d ago

I dont hate you or like you, but you usually get a lot of hate... how in hell do you get so many bubbles?

miyamoto4210d ago

maybe he is part of a group of N Dub Nation group of Nintendo fans that form an organized tactic of bubbling him up?

They think they do a good job of promoting Nintendo but in my book they are spreading negativity all over the internet

if they have valid cause i would like to join them but i really can't find a good reason to support a platform for children, I am way past that stage.

doogiebear4210d ago

There's a big difference between winning the hearts of Casuals, and hardcore. As long as sony caters to hardcore, they'll always have a massive market. Kinect 2 and wii u can keep their casuals. Comparing ms and nintendo's audience to that of Sony is like comparing apples and oranges. Core gamers know where to go, and what to avoid.

ShaunCameron4210d ago

Yeah, there is a difference. And that's why Sega and Atari are no longer around. The "hardcore" crowd alone isn't big enough to carry any company over the top much less make catering to them a viable option. Nave have been and never will be. Even Nintendo and Microsoft found out the hard way with the N64, GC and the XB.

DigitalAnalog4210d ago

But your examples don't exactly justify your points. Each of the consoles you mentioned had disadvantages/mistakes that put them in the situation the were. For the N64, the PSX proved they can produce more games and wasn't limited to the storage provided by the cartridges. For the GC and XB shows what happens when you come into the industry very late ESPECIALLY when the competition continue to dominate in both sale and game quality.

The HC gamer crowd has allowed the NES, SNES and Genesis that spearheaded new competition with better equipped "templates" which is why the consoles with the most streamlined and "best" features now are dominating this gen.

JellyJelly4210d ago

Hardcore - Wonderbook, Playstation All-Stars.

Not hardcore - Halo 4, Forza Horizon.

Is that what you are saying?

Jazz41084210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

What a unprofessional childish fanboy written article. Its purley opinion and written like it came from a 8th grader.

miyamoto4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

"but Microsoft was the smartest out of these three."

Really?

Like Steve Ballmer, Microsoft has no vision like Sony PlayStation for gaming
Steve Balmmer does not understand the culture of video gaming
And your money is on him?

Sony PlayStation has a vision to push how games are made to technical excellence while M$ & Nintendo are in this only for the money.

Sony PlayStation had a vision to stop piracy with BluRay and now with Gaikai. That is why they are lost money money on PS3 so they can have piracy out of the way in the long run while M$ & Nintendo Xbox 360 & wii are massively pirated platforms that uses software piracy for hardware leverage

Sony PlayStation with Gaikai will put video gaming mainstream again into a broader audience yet again by putting games on any digital device possible.

Sony PlayStation knows where they are going while you can asses the other two are running out of ideas!

Sony PlayStation will continue to nurture & take care of this industry no matter what while the other two only think about themselves.

Xbox 360 has just repeated the original Xbox this gen.

It brought nothing new to the table. Sony has shown this generation that software piracy can be stopped on a grand scale if not completely.

M$ with its billions has FAILED big time to put smaller companies like Nintendo & Sony out of the game because it has no genuine interest for the sake of gaming. All it cares about is how to extract money from the industry.

All it does is copy the two Japanese veterans.

Piracy is a very serious serial killer of development houses & publishers and if M$ or Nintendo does care at least they should have done their part.

braydox214210d ago

im not so sure about nintendo being in the for the cash, Nintendo iv'e always seen them as good for introducing their own unique ideas and just beating their own drum and just doing their own thing not just caring about whats in our wallets.

Knight_Crawler4210d ago

Those bubbles!!!!!

ZOMG can I has one plezzzzzz :(

Unlimax4210d ago

Don't Touch his bubbles xD !

AlucardFury4210d ago

I have this setup too, I can't see it changing myself.

Unlimax4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

Excuse me, my dear ~

Just realized the way you think in the "love of video games" alleged that you personally believe in ..You from those people who do not support the gaming industry open and receptive openness to other devices in the Sportsmanship , but so as not to give other devices a chance to convince them that's why they standing position aligned next to those companies !

Painful truth that Nintendo Fans HATES the success of the Playstation system's so much till this day .. For this reason they are standing position siding next to other companies against Sony !

Probably I'm out from the framework of the subject but I have had no other option to answer only these words, perhaps some people feel a little of what is happening around them.

Personal advice from me ..Do not let your interest confined to just one thing because you hate!

Oh and by talking about it .. You make me feel like you are a staff by Nintendo Co. in the way you comment on all the news .

Pillsbury14210d ago

That is an a$$ ton of disagrees. M$ does not care about the core gamer they will only cater to the casuals and improve there arm flailing recognition system, and charge you to play online.

Rated M for Mature

yavorsv4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

For those who are wondering. He has "so many" bubbles, because he is not hateful. He doesn't diss the other consoles and fans. He responds to the hate towards him with kindness. Yes he talks like Nintendo PR, but he never leaves his character. He maybe a little annoying at times, but if you are so much better you will ignore him like most clever people will do.
IF you noticed Nintendo is like that,too. They don't bash. Unlike others... :D

LX-General-Kaos4209d ago

Thanks for the support and positive attitude man

dubt724209d ago

My one bubble comes from pure Sony hatred, so what he says does ring true...

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Norrison4209d ago

PC: Multiplayer
PS3 & Xbox360: Singleplayer (MP only in exclusive games)

DeadlyFire4209d ago

I disagree, but that's just my opinion.

XBL yes is great, but unless it goes free next generation I can see a tidal shift to Playstation/Nintendo. One of Nintendo's new main focuses will be on Multiplatform games. That was X360's focus as well, but you have to throw some core games into the mix. Nintendo's new network will be free as well. Which will make a big difference with a cheaper console.

One main problem with this generation has been RAM and heating issues. For the PS3 it was the divided RAM causing problems with ported games. Meanwhile for the X360 it was the RROD. Hopefully that won't be a problem next generation for either console.

I personally believe Nintendo and Sony will be edging it out with next generation leaving Microsoft in the dust. Microsoft will not let this happen though without a fight. I suspect a price cut on XBL at some point if it does happen.

DA_SHREDDER4209d ago

Competitive gaming? Watch out overyone, we have a competitive gamer here! Everyone hide your controllers!

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pixelsword4209d ago

He that blesses his friend with a loud voice, rising early in the morning, it shall be counted a curse to him.

Proverbs 27:14

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lilbroRx4210d ago

Microsoft has won no gens because their business practices prevent it. They are not going to change how they do business so nothing else is going to change.

Steven214210d ago

They're a bunch of crooks who nickel and dime their customers

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ALLWRONG4210d ago

At least MS never went from first to last. Silver is better than bronze.

HammadTheBeast4210d ago (Edited 4210d ago )

Because Last to Last is such a better outlook for them.

smashcrashbash4210d ago

Yeah they aren't hasbeens they were neverweres. Microsoft has never dominated a gen and people are making a big deal because they are only now catching up and this gen is almost over. At least both Nintendo and Sony enjoyed dominating each of their gens. Sony and Nintendo each ruled at least two gens. How many have Microsoft ruled? Have they sold as many systems as the Wii or the PS1 or a PS2? Being in second place after two gens of trying is nothing to boast about and yet every one always does. They are STILL in the middle after years of trying and now Nintendo has their system out first and Sony probably isn't far behind. Even with Nintendo giving up on the Wii they STILL haven't passed it. 'look we are selling more systems now that this gen is almost over. We still haven't out paced Sony by a great amount and are still trailing behind the Wii but that is great news somehow' Let's face it. The only question is whose b***h Microsoft's system is going to be next gen Sony's or Nintendo's. Call me when they dominate a gen and don't spend it in-between systems.

NeverEnding19894209d ago

SONY failed this gen going from hero to zero.

Microsoft went from last to 2nd with no sign of stopping. Micosoft are the babies of the console wars and they've already passed the former great, SONY.

It looks like SONY will continue its downward trend if PS4 specs rumours turn out to be true.

Cam9774210d ago

Let the best contender win.
Good luck.

zebramocha4210d ago

Am I the only one who find it suspicious that when it comes to who wins next gen, for Ms it proclaimed but for Sony/nintendo it's suggested?

rezzah4210d ago

The media likes to shape the populations ideals.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN3d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor2d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic2d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv723d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka3d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion3d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer3d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow13d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer2d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning773d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning772d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv728d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv727d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit7d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1017d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-7d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac7d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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