Sony's PlayStation 3 A Tax-Dodging 'Computer'?

For those of you who kept an eye open during the European launch of the PlayStation 2, some six years ago, all this may seem like a like deja-vu. That's because, at that time, Sony was also trying to get the PS2 to be classified as a computer, instead of a console, just to avoid paying some extra taxes which are in place in Europe, for importing game consoles.

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MoonDust6528d ago

If they approve that they are retarded.

Jay da 2KBalla6528d ago (Edited 6528d ago )

they are retarded but hey they are just trying to do everything they can to prevent themselves from going banjrupt.

ACE6528d ago

thats how bad it is in the sony camp lol,,,,

i have heard they are getting all sorts of cash problems ,,, so i can believe that they are going to make cut backs in the ps3 ,,,,,

HAS NE ONE READ THE KOKOTO SITE READ ON PS3 CELL BEING CUT DOWN TO RUN AT JUST 2.8MHZ STRANG THING IS SOME ONE WAS SAYING IT WAS GONA HAPPEN LIKE 8 MONTHS AGO SO HMMM NOT LOOKING GOOD AT ALL OH WELL I'M OF TO BY THE MORE POWERFULL 360

Shadow Flare6528d ago

would you please stop posting your bs comments? please?

if the ps3 is classifed as a computer, then sony avoid some extra import taxes

= cheaper for sony, good news

where the hell do you xbox battymen get bad news from this? you just see bad things about EVERYTHING sony

be a f***ing gamer for once and stop being a fanboy. See some postive things sony does for a change cos microsoft isn't perfect itself

bernie6528d ago

....after all if Sony themselves don't even know what it's supposed to be, how are the governments in Europe going to know!

MoonDust6528d ago

Playstation is a gaming console you can't run windows on it it's not a pc.

DG6528d ago

So a computer not running windows is not a PC. So a mac or a linux based PC is not a computer?

Lucidmantra6528d ago

Yes Macs, LINUX, UNIX, DOS, and many other operating environments are PC's

PS360PCROCKS6528d ago

you have GOT to be kidding me??? How can they get away with this? It's OBVIOUSLY a gaming machine, their dumb over their I swear

DG6528d ago

Why is everybody so upset. If you had a chance to save some money on your taxes (and rip off the government) you wouldnt do it. Its normal business practice to write off gas and food etc. this is no diff.

Bill Gates6528d ago

Your post is the only intelligent post here.

DG6528d ago (Edited 6528d ago )

It seems like everyone is on the "I hate Sony" bandwagon and quick to stone them to death. It didnt work on Jesus and it wont work here people (not to compare Sony to Jesus its just a metaphor relax!).

TheMART6528d ago

No I wouldn't compare the PS3 to Jesus ever.

I think the PS3 would be a Judas, a lying biaattcchhh

Caxtus7506528d ago

haha saying we are dumb when you said "their" instead of "there"..oh the irony

Shadow Flare6528d ago (Edited 6528d ago )

Firstly, judas betrayed jesus, he didnt lie to him you moron

Secondly, i hate you

Thirdly, stop being so stuck up, you stupid fanboy. Get your head out your butt and recognise some good things sony has done, cos ms sure as hell aint perfect.

Im sure most u box fanboys are kids.

-Trying to justify every possible reason u bought a 360

-putting sony down on EVERYTHING to make yourself feel better bout buying the box 360

-you love games where u just shoot anything

- you dont have a job to afford a ps3

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Ar Tonelico Qoga: Knell Of Ar Ciel Retro Review – Love Conquers All

Gary Green said: You’ll be forgiven if you haven’t heard of the Ar Tonelico trilogy. The previous two games arrived so late in the PS2’s life-cycle that they simply went unnoticed. While most were tinkering with their shiny new PS3s, Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar Tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica were being ‘returned to sender’ by your local Game stores. Luckily, you won’t need to have played them to understand and appreciate this third and final chapter, Qoga (pronounced k-yoga) tells the story of a racial war between humans and Reyvateils, a breed of biologically produced female cyborgs capable of reproduction, while still having a digital mind.

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Giga_Gaia1h ago

Oh my god. I kinda wish this would get a remaster on PS5, it would be awesome. One of my favorite games on PS3.

That and 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's a shame that some stuff is stuck on PS3.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 5h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle15h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188113h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio12h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning778h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga15h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218314h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga13h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit2h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus238h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv728h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10118h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos17h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-7h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac17h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10116h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic14h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein1d 3h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno23h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k422h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson21h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu23h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson21h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -