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Sony has already managed to cut the costs of PS4 hardware production

Sony has already managed to reduce the manufacturing costs associated with PS4 hardware, the company has revealed.

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Randostar3588d ago

This is great for Sony. I really don't think we will see a price cut for at least a minimum of 2 years. It would be cool if they cut the price like $20 or $25 this holiday season though. I dont think that will happen though.

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sinspirit3588d ago

@wheresmymonkey

No. In the beginning it was like $388 to manufacture, not including labor and shipping costs. It was losing a small amount per console but a few months ago had become profitable.

SoapShoes3588d ago

They were losing a small amount on the PS4 when factoring in labor and shipping but they said if the consumer bought a PS Plus sub or software they would be in the black.

Giul_Xainx3587d ago

In the quarterly update Sony revealed that more than half of PS4 units sold have a PS+ account. The gaming division is now the most profitable segment followed by their new cell phone cameras, and their film industry. TV is turning around, cell phone is the biggest loser. Pc is still dying.

sinspirit3587d ago

@above

None of that means anything here. I'm talking about how the console itself was just barely not profitable for months and now it is profitable in itself.

PC is not dying. You kind of just destroyed your integrity. PC has been steadily rising since PS2 era. It's still not as big as consoles worldwide but it certainly is a huge community that keeps growing.

jukins3588d ago

its more likely that they'll have holiday bundles rather than a pricecut.

colonel1793588d ago (Edited 3588d ago )

As long as the PS4 sells as well as it's doing there is no way Sony will cut the price. Look at how long it took for Nintendo to reduce Wii price. There is demand for it, so there is no need yet.

thisismyaccount3588d ago (Edited 3588d ago )

$399 | Uncharted 4 PS4 Bundle X-Mas 2015
$449 | Uncharted 4 + U1-U3 Remastered PS4 Bundle X-Mas 2015

$199 | FAKIN DEEP DOWN!!! wuer arye? Seriously... WHERE THE eF is DEEP Down? F2P game by Capcom with the help of some Sony Engineers... few levels, few mobs... are we ever going to be able to play this one ?

Rime, DD and NMS are my reasons to get a PS4, there tousand others, but if you had to decide on 3 games, those three would be my top 3.

NSM = never seen, never played something like that
RIME = a MADERFAK ICO OPEN WORLD game! Period!
DD = Coop Dark Souls? up to 4 or 5? people..... ufff, im running out of fingernails! :=)

SilentNegotiator3588d ago

A $20 price drop wouldn't be a compelling reason to get a lot more people to buy a Ps4, just leave them with $20 less from people that are buying it anyway. There's a reason that the big three don't typically do small price drops.

Remember how successful Ps3's $100 price drop to $299 was? I believe it sold over 1.7 million...in a September.

xtremeimport3588d ago

We saw a price increase here in Canada.

Christopher3587d ago

You can thank the retailers for that, not Sony.

ThatOneGuyThere3588d ago

i think christmas this year is going to be ultra competitive. MS has to do something about their XB1. Im going to go ahead and predict a 349.99 halo bundle. That paired with their giant inventory of units might be the boost in sales they need. If they cant turn it around this christmas, they never will. The pressure will be on sony to keep the ball away from microsoft.

CorruptBoyd3587d ago (Edited 3587d ago )

No matter what BOTH companys will sell their consoles. Microsoft may be a little behind but in a couple years they will both have sold alot of units

3-4-53588d ago

Most likely they have had their Price Cutting plan in place for 2-3 years now.

It was probably always part of the bigger picture so they most likely already have the next 2-3 years of price drops in place along with whatever else they cut cost on.

Chevalier3588d ago

No they'll just add value by giving you downloadable games. Like here in Canada where if you buy a PS4 you get The Last of Us DLC code bundled in.

wsoutlaw873588d ago

probably next e3 they will either do a price cut or throw a bigger hdd in and boost sales in the summer. They cant risk having the xbo ever be any cheaper than the ps4

BX813588d ago

Yeah this is great for Sony as a company. This gives them a bigger profit off of the ps4. After all the articles of Sony loosing money as a whole it's good to know you have a product that delivers and just got cheaper to make. I would also like to see a holiday price drop but I don't think it'll happen. I think were more likely to see bundles. Either way it's good for gamers.

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sprinterboy3588d ago

Probably gamescom 2015 for a price cut

PeaSFor3588d ago

lol, i highly doubt it would happen, its WAYYYY too soon, but droping it to 389-379$ would be interesting.(and see MS reaction)

Volkama3588d ago

2015 isn't that soon...

FarEastOrient3588d ago

What you'll see is crazy Black Friday deals this November for both companies.

PeaSFor3588d ago

crazy Black Friday?
nah, its gonna be a brack friday bunduru.

thedisavowed3588d ago

We can only hope, dream and beg

Becuzisaid3588d ago

They are the fastest selling console of all time. Why would they cut the price?

Christopher3587d ago

To stay that way when MS cuts the price of the XBO this Holiday season.

PrinceOfAllSaiyans3588d ago

Good for Sony. Lots of great news for them lately. profiting from Playstation, having the best TV's on the market, and soon to have the best phone on the market when the Z2 releases.

chrisarsenalsavart3588d ago

Z2 is already out your month's now.

fOrlOnhOpe573588d ago

Yep. The Z3 is heavily rumoured to be available late this year/early next year, here in Europe :)

Christopher3587d ago (Edited 3587d ago )

Not in North America :(

Edit: Well, not in the U.S. at least. I think one carrier is going to finally get it in September.

kreate3588d ago

Idk about the tv and phone comment but i'll take PlayStation.

ThatOneGuyThere3588d ago

other than the Z2, there really isnt a phone that matches the Z1s overall. i mean, its got a killer camera, super fast quad core, tons of ram, completely waterproof, FM radio, NFC, playstation certified, etc. There are other phones with some of these features, but none with ALL of these features. Oh and the screen is a 1080p bravia that puts out actual colors. not that cheap acid trip crap LG and Samsung seem to think is impressive.

kreate3587d ago

@thatoneguythere

ic.... so Z1 is the best phone out there?
im just asking so i can go buy one.
i never looked into sony phones.

always been using iphones, htc, samsung, and LG phones.

i was thinking about getting a windows phone but havent got around to it yet.

Mikelarry3588d ago

Very good news for them indeed, hopefully with the price cut it would give others that extra push to own a ps4.

Baszs3588d ago

I don't care much for a price-cut i rather see them putting the money on the development and publishing table instead. Although they have a nice system, it's lacking some exclusives and OS updates, which is a shame if you ask me. Not working with EA's Access is a also a weird move.

I mean they did a good move with Mark Cerny on a hardware level, but they aint putting money on their software side of things..

chrisarsenalsavart3588d ago (Edited 3588d ago )

Don't worry about the games,
They 're coming. At list they don't release half baked games like EA.
They give time to the developers to reach their vision. Like Nintendo

700p3588d ago

Those half baked games sell though...

Aceman183588d ago

@700p

And that's the problem we have in this industry now. Ppl probably like you who continue to support that practice causing a company like EA to do what they continually do release unfinished games.

700p3588d ago

@ace well those half baked games from EA are fun. Dead Space,Dragon age,Mass effect,Battlefield. Good games.

OrangePowerz3588d ago

@700p

Mass Effect is fun.

Dead Space was butchered with Dead Space 3 and I fear Mirrors Edge will also be butchered to make it more mainstream and accessible.

BF4 was (is) a broken mess that wasn't fun at alland rage inducing and subsequently killed some of my hype for Battlefront. Hardline is a full price expansion pack/DLC.

Dragon Age could be fun.

Kayant3588d ago

"Dead Space,Dragon age,Mass effect,Battlefield" and only one of those titles have been released on next-gen yet and was broken for a large amount of it's launch and SP was said to be terrible. The other one is coming soon your argument isn't appreciable.

Aceman183588d ago

@700p

I'll give you ME and DA as I love both franchises, but both weren't as broken or incomplete as their other games.

Plus as happy as I am to hear of a sequel to Mirrors Edge I'm now afraid of how it's going to be development wise.

wsoutlaw873588d ago

why do i care if they sell. Everyone who buys them ends up complaining about how they ruin sequels, let microtransactions kill the game, and are broken. They always have the worst servers. Thier sports games have always lagged like crazy. Just look at all the crap with sim city, battlefield, and mass effect 3. Dragon age 2 was also messed up. EA makes bad games but has good marketing.

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fei-hung3588d ago

You have to remember, their games have been delayed and one has been scrapped due to money just being fished away by the dev team.

Until we know the cost of PSNOW and if they will be a subscription option, EA Access may not be all that great an option.

Further more, do we know yet what games people will get and how long they will be able to keep them for? If they change the game after a month and you can no longer play it, it will be pointless for those who play games like Fifa, NBA, NHL etc throughout the year.

And although the X1 has received more updates, it isn't any better off in terms of having basic features. Both consoles still lack mp3 playback, folders, etc.

Volkama3588d ago (Edited 3588d ago )

Do you own a PS4? If you already own a PS4 then I wouldn't expect you to care about a price cut. I don't own a PS4 (I very very nearly bought one last week though!), so I'd be quite interested in a price cut or some good game pack-ins.

I agree with your comment though, it wasn't the price that turned me away from buying one. Games are the best way into my living room.

SpideySpeakz3588d ago

EAA is a waste of money and will conflicts with PS+.
Sony made the right move.

jcnba283588d ago

If you think EAA is a waste of money I'd love to hear your thoughts on PS Now?

Ron_Danger3588d ago (Edited 3588d ago )

Waste of money?! What are you talking about?! I'd love to pay $30 a year so I can play games 5 days early and if I like them, I'll gladly pay $54 (10% discount oh boy!!!!) for the digital version (who needs to trade in games for credit these days??)

/s

@jcn
Here are my personal thoughts on PS Now (speaking as someone who personally took part in all of the closed PS now betas): as of now (on it's current BETA state) the prices are high. However, considering the future goal is to have the entire ps1 and ps2 library at your finger tips, I'll gladly pay a few bucks for nostalgia (especially to play classics like Einhander, Bloody Roar, Dino Crysis, etc). In it's current state, there aren't enough EA games to honestly consider EAA a good deal, especially since sports games aren't my thing.

Omegasyde3588d ago

Wait until they make DLC exclusive for EA access subscribers......

Just look at how Battlefield premium works now. 10$ discount and 2-3 week early access to dlc.

And if EA proves succesful.... Guess who else will copy in thier steps.. Unbisoft activision,etc.

Thats when we start paying for subs instead of games, meaning game release day 1 with little content...Why bother??

ThatOneGuyThere3588d ago

everyone seems to forget the primary function of PSNow. it will allow customers without playstations to access a large portion of the playstation experience through their TVs. This will be a pretty good selling point for Bravias going forward if they advertise it.

For the gamer who has a PS3, PS2, and a PS1 with a huge library of games, PSNow offers nothing. But guess what? Its not supposed to. For the grandparents who are considering purchasing a new TV. Which TV are you going to get? the one that can entertain your grandkids or??? After all, lets not forget that a HUGE portion of Wii sales were from grandparents and parents who bought them as a pop-culture entertainment option for their kids and grandkids. The hardcore audience was pretty small in comparison. Its going to be a pretty big deal when they get the subscription pricing in place. Who knows, a cable provider might offer an entertainment bundle with PS Now access. The marketing possibilities with PSNow are almost limitless.

Now lets look at what EAA offers. you pay 30$ a year. Great price, that doesnt even effect my finances. However, what am I getting with that? Old games that are lacking in relevance. A huge portion of EA's games are yearly titles that are only worth playing while they are relevant. Who is going to want to play last year's madden? Who will play BF4 when Hardline comes out? You still have to buy all of the expansions? If its vanilla BF4 there arent going to be many servers for you. EA is doing this for the sole purpose of selling all digital copies where they make a bigger % of money from sales. period.

wsoutlaw873588d ago (Edited 3588d ago )

why is it compared to psnow. psnow is a streaming service where you can play games that are for a system you dont even have. EAA is just a membership discount card that cost 30$ a year.

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MrSec843588d ago

Obviously the OS feature updates are incoming, with the 3D Bluray playback the other day, more are coming down the line.

As for games, Driveclub's coming this October, LBP3 (while not a full on PS4 exclusive, is a Playstation exclusive).
Let's not also forget 3 major AAA exclusive, PS4 games coming early next year, with The Order 1886 in Feb, Bloodborne shortly after and also Ratchet & Clank.

Uncharted 4's on it's way later next year, but that could be any time, be it in the first half or the second.

It's well known that major studios like Quantic Dream, Media Molecule, Guerrilla Games & Sony Bend are all working on new IPs, other studios are working on new games for existing franchises, so there's your financial investment in software.

Considering 13 studios in the Playstation division have been confirmed to be working on AAA games for the console that's some pretty huge investment on Sony's part, not to forget that a large number of Sony's studios have more than one team.

A new studio called Dinosaurum Games has a new IP called Without Memory.

How Sony can be seen as "not putting money on their software side of things" is about as far from the truth as things can get.

They probably have more exclusives in development than any other console manufacturer.

Jaqen_Hghar3588d ago

A man would almost guarantee that uncharted is a holiday release next year. Naughty dog only ever had one delay and that was for 1 month on last of us.

wsoutlaw873588d ago

some people say something like "ps4 has no games" and it just sticks in everyones head and its tough to get rid of that label. I find it crazy because if bloodborne and the order came out 3 months earlier in 2014, you know everyone would be like omg sony has sooo many games.

Baszs3588d ago (Edited 3588d ago )

Good games or not! My interest is in the fact that Sony
has to put more money into their service and software.
Instead of making the console cheaper. They are finally earning
money off the Ps4, and that will continue even at the price that
they are asking from us. But instead of just profiting from a sold console, let them
put some more love into their machine 'FOR" the consumer and the 'PLAYER'

Don't get me wrong, but aside the powerfull hardware they lack
service and features through out the console's lifecycle.
Look at the ps3 they never even thought about updating their OS into something modern.

let's put it like this.. Sony only likes to improve it's products hardware.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai3d ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19723d ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

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@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19723d ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz3d ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay3d ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers32d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken31d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g32d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing32d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H932d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola32d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66932d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle32d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg32d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos32d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola32d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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