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Research Firm Finds More People Asking For Xbox One As Christmas Gift

When it comes to Xbox One and PlayStation 4, the systems themselves are quite similar than their respective fans would admit. Those fans, however, differ greatly. Social media research firm Fizziology has been tracking what consumers are saying about each console and their findings reveal some pretty interesting data.

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dedicatedtogamers3795d ago

I love these little surveys and "studies". Xbox One is selling more on Black Friday! Xbox One is most-wished-for item at Walmart. Xbox One is most-asked-for Christmas present.

And yet? PS4 still sells more by a wide margin. Sorry, MS, you can't hype and market your way into great sales, not much longer, at least.

ZodTheRipper3795d ago

You can't do anything against common sense ...cheaper, more powerful, better history of exclusives, 'nuff said.

mikeslemonade3795d ago

Another case of zombie stats here. Show me the numbers!

In no shape of form will the X1 be better than PS4 in any meaningful statistic.

minimur123795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

I would willingly hold my hands up to say I'm wrong, bit I think Microsoft aren't telling the truth when they said they've sold 2 million consoles tbh. Everybody is well aware that PS4 is pore popular than Xbox with tons of articles saying it's outsold it 3-1, and even to the fact that its launched in a lot less countries that ps4, so according to sales numbers to country ratio... Xbox has done better than ps4?
I don't think so.
But like I said I'd happily hold my hands up and say I'm wrong, I'm just highly skeptical on the 2 mil mark for xbox

johndoe112113795d ago

Ok, so I'm not gonna say that this article is lying, but I would really love someone to explain to me how this is remotely possible as it's well known that the ps4 is outselling the xbox one by significant margins just about every where in the world.

I'm not gonna call bullsh!t on this just yet, I just need to understand the maths to their equation.

nukeitall3794d ago

yet sales numbers are so close between the two consoles.

heck, nobody questions the amazon report that says 3 to 1 favor on ps4 which is based on less than 1000 stock unit. wow!

at least this is a third party research firm and not neogaf forum!!!

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whoyouwit043795d ago

when has the Ps4 out sold the Xbox One by a wide Margin. That is very unrealistic considering the PS4 is in what 32 territories compared to 13 and for xbox one and it's 100 bucks cheaper and had way more hype and good press the Xbox One. However it barely outsold xbox one by a 100 thousand, that's hardly any thing to brag about.

speedforce1313795d ago

we don't like your kind 'round here

KakashiHotake3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

PS4 sold more consoles in 24hours in it's launch in America alone than Microsoft did in 13 countries. Then went on and did it again in Europe and finished off the launch month of November at 2.1 million. Since then Sony hasn't uttered a word but they continue to break records, and continue to outsell Xbox one. Even as we speak it is the number one best seller at amazon with Xbox One sitting at number 21 for almost a week. Depending on Sony's supply they could reach their 5 million goal for March before the end of the year.

scott1823795d ago

So you have the updated ps4 numbers? Please share them with everyone. Sony announced over 2 million then over a week later MS announced it barley reached 2 million... What were Sony's numbers at that point? Plus, it is much easier to buy an X1 right now, you could literally go anywhere to buy one, even Amazon. Tell me where I can buy a PS4.

Ripsta7th3795d ago

@whoyouwit - you are forgetting Sony hasnt launched in their home country get , major sales there

1nsomniac3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

Your comment completely contradicts itself in everyway!

It's outselling XBone by a wide margin exactly because of all the things you've listed lol.

Not only that but actual real sales figures from stores - not surveys or research figures - all reported to show in the region of between 3-7 to 1 sales of the PS4.

.. And the most truthful indication of all is to just look around you. I know 1 person who has an Xbone & he's a die hard idiot that openly says he would of bought it even if it was the worst console that was ever made (yes, unfortunately that kind of fanboy) All my other friends have a PS4 & the majority of them were actually 360 fanboys.

4Sh0w3795d ago

No insomniac he did not contradict himself. X1 was last reported at 2mil, ps4 at 2.1 mil you say he's wrong it is a wide margin but where is your proof of sales totals that confirm ps4 is way ahead, not speculation from blogs but actual numbers???

Theres a reason why fanboys always make wild claims without links to back it up=BS.

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Arnon3795d ago

I still have Xbones in my store. PS4 however is always sold out, and for every one phone call I get for Xbox one, I receive 10 for PS4. They're not flying off the shelves.

Lady actually walked in today and said "well, if you're out of ps4's I might as well get him something. An Xbox is better than nothing..."

Seriously.

LogicStomper3795d ago

Mhmm, I'll just believe that you work there and, had the 10:1 ratio of demand because some stranger said it on the internet. /s

As for your comment below which is:

"There is zero logic when buying an xbox one over a PS4. And that's not even a fanboy comment. It's just smart consumerism. "

So you're saying that if I want to play Halo, Forza and Titanfall, It's illogical to buy a Xbox One? Well I guess I should be a so called "smart consumer" and buy a PS4 to play Halo.

lastofgen3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

yet it's funny how when these surveys/research firms point to something positive about the ps4, everyone one here is like "yeah, yeah, good going, ps4."

and when it turns into something positive for the xbox one, everyone on here is like "hmmm, no. it's just surveys and studies and whatnot, cannot be taken seriously. *insert some other generic comment*"

edit: sure, go ahead and bring on the downvotes, but if you can't see some truth in what I say, then I have no hope for this community.

dedicatedtogamers3795d ago

It's that way for both sides. I remember how plenty of people said "surveys don't matter" when http://xboxonevspsfour.com/ came out. I remember how plenty of people said "Amazon pre-orders mean nothing" when PS4 was absolutely stomping the XBox One.

So yeah, you're right. It's funny how things go back and forth. The reason why some people doubt pro-X1 surveys is because months and months and months of evidence have been indicating that PS4 is ahead, not just by a little bit but by a pretty sizable margin.

So if a pro-X1 survey comes out of nowhere and claims "X1 is ahead!" then of course people are going to be a bit leery.

nukeitall3794d ago (Edited 3794d ago )

@dedi

except when the official numbers are out from both MS and Sony are released, they are on par.

what sizeable margin are you talking about?

surely it cannot be that 5% difference of 100k on over 2 million sold fpr each console manufacturer?

according to your link the ps4 should have sold 2-3 times as much, putting ps4 at least 4 million!

that is a sizeable margin!!!

rainslacker3794d ago (Edited 3794d ago )

Now now. Give it the benefit of the doubt, and analyze it properly.

People are asking for it. The article mentions it's mostly teens that have a penchant towards the casual side of gaming.

So, we're assuming they're asking their parents for it, or significant other for the older ones I suppose. But these people's parents or significant others aren't willing to spend $500 on the system, because apparently given other articles the X1 isn't that much in demand at retail.

Wanting something isn't the same as actually dropping the money on it. I want an X1 personally, but I'm not going to drop $500 on it in it's current state.

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Garethvk3795d ago

BuyVia.comm said online trending is 3.3-1 in favor of the Playstation 4.

KingDadXVI3795d ago

1 - 3.3 to 1 is the trend that they are seeing from people who use BuyVia not an overall trend across the world.

2. People who want PS4 are far more likely to search a site like BuyVia than someone who wants an Xbox One because there has been no inventory of PS4 in stores. They spread their inventory over far more territories creating the false sense that the console was far outselling the Xbox One when in fact 2.1 million versus 2 million sold as of the first week in December means the PS4 was only leading by 5% in sales.

If BuyVia's analysis it correct then by their logic it should not be:

PS4 = 2.1 Million and Xbox One = 2 Million

It should be:

PS4 = 6.93 Million and Xbox One = 2 Million

BuyVia data debunked by simple math. LMAO.

Garethvk3795d ago

The way I took the math is that more people want a PS 4 by a 3.3 to 1 margin. The issue is that unlike the PS 4, the Xbox One is easier to locate as we see them all over the Phoenix, Seattle, and other markets we cover but have yet to see a PS 4 in stores anywhere. Supply and Demand. Xbox has the supply, PS 4 has greater deamand.

dedicatedtogamers3795d ago

But it's not PS4 = 2.1m and X1 = 2m. It never was.

PS4 hit the 2.1m weeks ago, and then a week later Microsoft announced they had just hit 2m. So, not only is the comparison bad NOW, but the comparison was bad THEN, too.

Simple math. LMAO indeed.

devwan3795d ago

If anyone witnessed the recent huge amazon stock of ps4 vanishing before their eyes (there was a regular ~3minute stock check as each SKU was in the last 999 units on GAF, with accompanying graphical analysis :P) you'll see the demand for ps4 is huge. UK & USA have seen large shipments of ps4 in the past week and they've already gone. It recently launched in yet more territories - when we see the figures for December they will be interesting. But more interesting will be the following two months as supply catches up with demand (which already seems to have occurred with xbone in some territories).

KingDadXVI3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

@Garethvk You are almost there but the demand does not have to be greater that the Xbox One demand to get these figures.

Here is an example:

Demand for Xbox = 100 consoles
Supply for Xbox = 50 consoles

Demand for PS4 = 100 consoles
Supply for PS4 = 15 consoles

What it simply means it that the Xbox was 3.3 time more able to meet the demand VS. PS4's ability to meet demand. The demand numbers can still actually be close or the same. Everyone knows that Sony spread their consoles out more thinly after the NA launch.

@dedicatedtogamers Actually you still apparently need to take a math course. Those numbers where sold over the same time frame the Xbox One launched a week later. Realistically these sales numbers are difficult to compare simply by the fact that they are over a different number of regions. Still my math works perfectly for the BuyVia myth debunking session.

Now to carry on in regards to the article above this one quote is very interesting and potentially damning for long term sales of the PS4. As quoted in the above article:

Taking things a bit further, Fizziology found that people who wanted an Xbox One were a "much younger, mainstream audience."

"They were very casual gamers (hardly mentioning gaming at all on social) who posted updates about their lives 24/7 from virtually all social media platforms," a Fizziology representative told us. "Their interests were varied and aligned with teen culture (partying, the opposite sex, self-image)."

This is the same market that goes gaga for IPhones and they also outnumber the hardcore gamers many times over. These people really don't give a rats ass about having a few percent better graphics ability, especially if you can't tell the difference on your TV. If this group ends up being the main demographic for consoles this generation then the Xbox is in a great position. Incidentally this is the broader market that MS is chasing while still bringing to us the best launch line up and the most anticipated games of 2014. Not bad for a console that many claimed was not for gamers. ROFL.

4Sh0w3795d ago

lol, KingDad great job using logic but they won't listen and will continue making bold claims with NO CONFIRMATION links.

Arnon3795d ago

There is zero logic when buying an xbox one over a PS4. And that's not even a fanboy comment. It's just smart consumerism.

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gamer20133795d ago

Who the hell is BuyVia.comm?

SG1_dapunisherX3795d ago

Using Skype plus play games on my beautiful tv is awesome

WeAreLegion3795d ago

Agreed. Skyping on your phone while playing PS4 is awesome. Or computer. Or tv. Or Vita. Or tablet.

speedforce1313795d ago

I don't know why people downvoted you lol! I personally skype on my PC while playing on my PS3. It's not restricted to Xbox One only so I don't know why people try to use that as a selling/bragging point.

dedicatedtogamers3795d ago

"I buy my game consoles to play games, not to Skype"

*memories of the wonderful 2006 Blu-Ray debate. Shoe, I'd like you to meet the other foot.

creatchee3795d ago

@dedicatedtogamers

"Shoe, I'd like you to meet the other foot."

Mmmmmmm how about "multiplatform game performance doesn't matter", "rumble is soooo last-gen", "sales mean nothing" and "indies don't count"?

JodyCones3795d ago

I would never use skype on an xbone hahahaha, I have a PC and phone. Man I'm glad I play PlayStation.

SG1_dapunisherX3795d ago

I have a ps4 as well.. I'm happy ps4 and xbox one are different

christocolus3795d ago

@sg1

I agree. Its a feature i use alot especially when i do not want to stop the game. Its really cool.

hazardman3795d ago

I dont know why you getting disagrees? Can you Skype and game at same time on PS4? I know you can snap it on Xbox One so its a neat feature. But that paywall sucks MS!!

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BelkingOfSony3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

most asked for/most wished for/ most wanted etc etc does NOT equal the most important factor, sales! and that is where the ps4 is thrashing the xbox one.

Belking3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

"most asked for/most wished for/ most wanted etc etc does NOT equal the most important factor, sales! and that is where the ps4 is thrashing the xbox one."

Most important factor? That would be business model dude, and money. xb1 isnt losing money like ps4 is. sony is just happy with being good enough and you can't blame them when you look at the disaster ps3 launch and the struggling vita.

This is obviously bad news for people here on this site....lol Why would anyone want what ms competitors have. xb1 is the only next gen console that you will need. No need to hype it up like the competition is doing. xb1 is the best right now and will only get better. MS has the legs to go the distance and the finances to cream the competition. The other wont be able to keep up. Right out the gate xb1 has the best games and the best 2014 line up with titles like titan fall, quantum break,and sunset overdrive and many more. xb1 has already proven it has no equal. Hardware talk doesn't win anything. It didnt go so well last gen when cell was supposed to be the thing that kills of xbox360....but that backfired.

TheLostCause3795d ago

Why is it that Xbox fanboys always sound the most stupid?

BelkingOfSony3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

@thelostcause

its belking, what do you expect from one of the biggest trolls on this site?

GarrusVakarian3795d ago (Edited 3795d ago )

I don't even know where to start......you are so wrong on so many levels. Unbelievable to think you actually believe all that you have just said.

"xb1 isnt losing money like ps4 is"

Sony actually make a profit from the PS4, look it up.

"Most important factor? That would be business model dude, and money."

I thought it was games and graphics?

"xb1 is the only next gen console that you will need."

And miss out on the what Sony's superior 1st party devs are working on? No thanks.

"MS has the legs to go the distance and the finances to cream the competition."

Just like they did last gen.....so why did the PS3 still sell more and still have better rated/looking exclusives? Dev talent >>>> money. There's more to exclusives than just throwing money at them lol.

" It didnt go so well last gen when cell was supposed to be the thing that kills of xbox360....but that backfired."

Where were you last gen? The PS3 destryoed the 360 in terms of graphics.....why do i even have to list these games: TLOU, B2S,uncharted 2+3, Killzone 2+ 3, Infamous 2, God Of War 3....the list goes on and on....again....where were you lol? TLOU alone is better looking then anything the 360 ever put out....and just plain better.

How is it that you are so easy to prove wrong so often? You really need to think about things before you type them. The PS4 is more powerful, cheaper, has better and more 1st party devs, has the better controller, better multiplats, better paid service (ps plus games are worth the payment alone, XBLG can';t compete with that)......it's a no contest.

hazardman3795d ago

I like that you back Xbox to the MAX dude. I mean if your gonna be a fanboy. Do it right and Belking does it right people!! You made some good points for MS behalf. As much as I like my Xbox One its an unfinished product dude. Its gonna take a few updates to a few fix things. And you can say same for PS4 great games coming out 2014 aswell.

All flaws with X1 aside im enjoying my gaming on it for sure!!!

Ricegum3795d ago

Reading Belking's awful contributions are like my joke of the day. I look forward to the next one.

ziggurcat3795d ago

For that, belking, you get the sisko facepalm

http://img.photobucket.com/...

rainslacker3794d ago (Edited 3794d ago )

I take back what I said in another article about you expanding on your comments with your one bubble to make a reasonable argument.

You should really stick with the 1-2 sentence trolls.

I almost want to give you another bubble, because you are quite funny at times with you're shorter comments.

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Boycott EA trends on X as community savages FC 24

EA has come under fire for making unexpected changes to its FC 24 Team of the Season unlocks.

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anast1h ago

It's like boycotting 'your' local crack dealer. I'm sure it will change everything...

Xzila111h ago

they manipulated the pack weight and admitting it on twitter

Kaozz197927m ago(Edited 26m ago)

Stop buying the fucking game! It is no secret that the game is based around opening packs that need to be bought with real money if you want to be competitive. Yes I know, you have the chance to get the cards without investing real money, but that is a real grind and you still may never get the cards you want. This is not new and it will not change if people keep buying the game/packs.

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Why Xbox believes it must cut costs and close studios

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gold_drake8h ago

i mean its pretty simple, they spent close to 30 billion in acquiring activision, they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen.

its just shit that because of MS's miscalculation alot of people lost their jobs.

Jingsing4h ago

This is exactly what many people said would happen including the CMA and FTC. Lies lies and more lies and they allowed a $69 billion buy out to happen.

gold_drake4h ago

oh yeh it was 70 billion. that was my bad haha even worse.

thesoftware7304h ago(Edited 4h ago)

gold,

You can't be serious, right?

Do you think that MS thought they would make 80bill in a year & Half? They haven't even released titles under MS yet, lol.

But in fact, that A/B revenue is already paying off, look at the last earnings call. That $80 billion is long-term money, my guy, no sane person/company would think they would make that back in any short-term situation, it's a long-term investment.

Let's play silly then. If MS's reason for laying off staff and closing studios was due(which it really was not) to the A/B deal, tell me what Sony's reason was for past studio closures, the recent 900-person layoffs, closing Sony London, shutting down Dreams, and closing Japan Studio? Zipper? Psygnosis? cuts at all their internal studios.

Keep in mind, you are claiming MS's reason is because of the A/B deal; please explain Sony's reason.

Hofstaderman4h ago

You actually still defending them? Sheesh.....

gold_drake4h ago

this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt.

and of course not, but im pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. they didnt, and closed off some studios.

its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case.

romulus234h ago(Edited 4h ago)

(It really was) due to the Activision Blizzard deal and the loss of physical sales due to gamepass. You keep bringing up Sony in all your posts about this, stop deflecting and trying to change the topic, this is about MS and what they are doing.

BehindTheRows3h ago

Has nothing to do with Sony. Stay on topic.

notachance3h ago

once in a while you see someone too invested in their make-believe console war that everything happened has to be connected to said war…

a bit of banter between fans is normal, this crusade you’re doing now isn’t.

Chevalier3h ago

Wow idiotic. You bring up very old closures not that there haven't been recent ones from Playstations, but, seriously stop deflecting. This has NOTHING to do with Playstation.

Does Playstation got $3 trillion behind them and daddies wallet? No they don't so stop making a fool of yourself.

Xbox has never been profitable really and they just keep losing money so between their worst hardware sales, terrible 3rd party sales and now terrible 1st party sales.

Gamepass numbers that are no longer being announced shows their numbers after 3 years of missed targets has flatlined. Plus their recent gains up to 34 million were ONLY because they folded Gold members in too. Absolutely take your idiotic rhetoric out of here. Keep on topic without deflecting.

S2Killinit3h ago

Ayayayay with these xbox/MS excuses.

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thesoftware7301h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Drake,

"this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt."

You are correct that it's not an MS Vs Sony Topic, but when exaggeration and imagination mix from a one-sided social group, similar examples are needed to ground radical thoughts; in this instance, the example was that shutting down 3,4,5, even 6 studios during a restructure/ buyout/acquisition is not some anomaly(it can suck) that has to be dissected or spell doom and gloom.

"But I'm pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. They didn't, and they closed off some studios."

But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue.

"its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case."

The fact that they did make money, kinda throws this out the window, and besides, you don't wake up and say, hey let's close a studio, you look at the output, you look at the dev as a whole, the long term and short term, you weigh it against all other studios and goals, you keep key members, ect..then you close if they are the weakest links...which by MS analysis they were.

Again, I will make a small Sony comparison, just so some of you can understand and see past the bias; Insomniac, ND, and Bungie have made some of the best games ever created, yet Sony saw fit to cut jobs in every of these studios, even tho Insomniac & ND are the biggest producers of PS games, leagues ahead better than Tango and Arkane, yet, they saw cuts, mind you, while being the TOP produces of PS first party. They were told to cut costs, and more jobs may be on the line, and Bungie is being threatened by a hostile Sony takeover. Put that in perspective, as I know that layoffs and dev closures are different, but if the best of the best is getting cut off, it is less than surprising, that lesser studios are closing.

@Cheva,
My response fits well with your comments as well. You even went on to prove that the dev closures are not just due to A/B acquisition. Then you point out Sony has less money than MS, inferring that MS should keep devs open that they see as lesser earners, while Sony having less money makes it okay to close them. lol...it doesn't work that way.

gold_drake1h ago

im not reading all of that. u have ur opinion, i have mine.

thats rly it.

but this aint sony vs ms.

ApocalypseShadow1h ago

You're trying to compare a 100 billion company to a company that has 3 TRILLION worth. SIE has to live or die on their own. And in turn, PlayStation has helped the main company again and again. Sony has to balance out what is working and not working in the company.

While Xbox has Daddy Warbucks footing the bill to keep the platform afloat. They have been bleeding money from Nvidia hardware in the OG Xbox, the RROD fiasco, the attempted 2013 DRM nonsense and the lies about being the most powerful console in the world and the losses of paying out millions to prop up a service hoping it catches on with enough subscribers to justify its existence.

They're not comparable if Xbox isn't allowed to live or die by its actions. It's subsidized. Revenue isn't profit. And if they were profiting on their own, they wouldn't be closing developers. If they were profiting, they wouldn't need Daddy Warbucks spending 80 to 100 billion buying up 3rd party publishers to sustain a loss leading platform.

They stopped announcing game sales, stopped announcing hardware sales, stopped announcing game pass subscribers, they are putting games on their competitors platforms but you're telling us that they are doing great even after killing jobs and closing developers at Xbox.

Stop drinking the Kool aid. You're drunk.

anast4h ago

They are going to use AI for a large portion of the game development process. Upper management need bonuses and the shareholders need more money. So, people will lose their jobs.

Skuletor4h ago

Maybe they were already using AI to make business decisions, which would explain why they closed Hi-Fi Rush's studio, then said they need more games like Hi-Fi Rush not long after that announcement.

Crows903h ago(Edited 3h ago)

They shouldn't have bought any studios. Some is okay...but they went on a shopping spree...stupid

Einhander19723h ago

The better question is why did Microsoft buy publishers for a service they were subsidizing they knew couldn't support.

And why are so many websites trying to make people feel sorry for Microsoft instead of truly criticizing the fact they are closing studios and killing jobs that would have been fine if Microsoft themselves hadn't gotten involved.

Quit feeling sorry for Microsoft and start feeling sorry for the industry and the all the gamers who are actually losing out.

THIS IS MICROSOFTS FAULT.

RNTody3h ago

The first thing that happens after any major acquisition or merger is a consolidation of the whole new portfolio, which includes cutting any excess, bloat or portfolios that don't fit the larger MO of the big boy. So far, it's been par for the course with Microsoft and that's why gamers have been so against this acquisition. Tango Gameworks is the beginning. You think Microsoft wants to pay to keep small timers like Ninja Theory in business?

There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Microsoft will improve any of these studios, but plenty to suggest that they will get rid of what they don't need and hold onto the IP. The real agenda of the acquisition was always to acquire The Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Fallout, Call of Duty, Candy Crush etc. that will create millions in passive revenue stream for Microsoft regardless of where the games release. Microsoft simply wants their cut.

Because of Games Pass Microsoft has no interest in investing in new IP which is risky and requires creative talent they can neither nurture nor manage. Game Pass has also not grown in the way Microsoft expected it to, even post acquisitions. Therefore the logical thing to do, without serious money makers to release, is to cut as much cost as possible.

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