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Sony, Microsoft Both Claiming Victory in Early Console Wars

They were both released in November within days of each other, and both have launched to undeniable success, quickly selling in excess of a million units . They are the Xbox One and PlayStation 4, the two newest consoles from Microsoft and Sony, and each company is claiming victory in the early going of the newest console wars.

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ZodTheRipper3791d ago

When did any of them "claim victory"? They both stated that this whole console war is a marathon, not a sprint. But unlike Microsoft, Sony can't produce enough consoles to meet the demand so it should be pretty clear who is "winning" right now.

iGAM3R-VIII3791d ago (Edited 3791d ago )

The funny thing is, despite the PS4 being sold out, who still sold more?

So you're right, it is a pretty clear winner, glad we are on the same terms.

Also worth telling you that although a console race is a marathon not a sprint, if two runners have a race and one of them starts of sprinting and gets ahead, then after they both run at around the same pace for who knows how long, who is ahead? Obviously the runner who had a large 1st sprint.

Slow and steady DOESN'T win the race in this scenario.

@below I agree with you also 100% if there were no gamers, Sony and MS couldn't claim anything. When it all goes down, it's the gamers that MS and Sony have to cater and some companies don't do it right (ex. EA). Gamers are mostly always the winners

JokesOnYou3791d ago

Well BOTH are selling very well. Just as it should be.

Simco8763791d ago

Funny the PS3 had a slow start but ended up ahead didn't they? Guess it does matter about slow and steady after all.

iGAM3R-VIII3791d ago

lool idk why im getting disagrees, i both consoles have been breaking records and are neck and neck. I was just saying how juat because 1 system is down doesnt mean the other is going to murder by sales

kickerz3791d ago

When are you guys gonna stop worrying about sales so much and start actually playing games. This iPhone I'm writing this on prolly sold 10 billion units, who cares

B1663r3790d ago

Wrong. Sony needed to dominate, they failed. The very best you can say about PS4 sales is that they are mildly outselling the X1 because they released in more countries.

However, the PS3 did that the entire last generation, except for the first two years. Sony lost billions of dollar by only outselling the x360. That financial reality will really start to hit home this year, and Sony is in store for another couple of rounds of downsizing.

Realistically, they may have 'won' the battle of console sales, but lost the console war, as they are forced out of the business unable to make any money in it over a 10 year period.

Muerte24943790d ago (Edited 3790d ago )

Will people please stop trying to compare Xbox One to PS3. The only reason why PS3 started pulling ahead was Sony "FIRST" party studios started to show what the system could actually do. Let's not act as if Microsoft has even a fraction of the same first party support.

@B1663r

Microsoft has lost billion with the Xbox brand, that's why it was being considered to sell the division off.

Jvaughn6613790d ago

As someone who participated in cross country,you should know that the person who sprinted out in front at the beginning of the race trying to get ahead ended up loosing because they used all their energy at the start. A smart runner learns their pace, and sticks with it till the home stretch where they can try and sprint out other runners. The truth is know one knows who's going to win the console war because of all the variables it includes.

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ThunderSpark3791d ago

Only person who can claim any victory so early in this console war is me, the gamer. With these companies going at it, I am guaranteed victory as I get my hands on as many great games as I can get.

tagan8tr3791d ago (Edited 3791d ago )

@whathappened unless you can only afford one console. The race is not who makes the best console as it should be its who locks up the exclusives, then holds the game hostage forcing gamers to buy two things that serve the same general purpose give or take a few features.

AceBlazer133791d ago

Pretty clear its the one with higher sales numbers.Easy to meet demand when most people want the competition's console.

Btw this is launch time so whatever is produced will be sold. Since sony has higher sales wouldn't that mean they are also producing more?

Clarence3791d ago (Edited 3791d ago )

Well seeing as the PS4 is always out of stock and you can find Xbones, than we all know who's winning right. Besides the PS4 is breaking all records while the xbone is just breaking 360 records.

The PS4 is the fastest selling console in history. That's a fact.
http://blog.us.playstation....

We all know how pr works in M$ camp.

SLUG3791d ago

lets see who wins at the end of 2014

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ThatCanadianGuy5143791d ago

Only one of them is breaking records tho.

DragonKnight3791d ago

You're both wrong.

It's Magnavox.

Geez, do you even game?

Trekster_Gamer3790d ago

Have you played ATARI today???

xHeavYx3791d ago

Neither console is claiming victory, but one company's number don't add up

jackanderson19853791d ago

who's numbers aren't adding up and how/where aren't they adding up?

Ricegum3791d ago (Edited 3791d ago )

Microsoft's numbers aren't adding up. They make out they're selling just as much as Sony's PS4, but pretty much every country/retail outlet in the world (perhaps excluding Australia) is saying that the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One, ergo, not adding up.

KingDadXVI3791d ago

@Unreal01 Actually the largest console market by Country is the USA and Xbox One has sold more consoles in the USA in a shorter period of time. Being in the lead by 100,000 consoles world wide in the first week of December is hardly much of a margin when you are selling in 21 more countries than your competitor.

Both consoles are selling well and had reached the 2 Million mark world wide a couple of weeks ago. The numbers will drop off after the holidays and then pick up again once some exclusives hit the market.

DragonKnight3791d ago (Edited 3791d ago )

@KingDadXVI: Actually that's full of it. Sony sold 1 million consoles in a day, Microsoft needed 9 days to do that. The PS4 was out for 2 weeks when the ratio comparison was made and that's the only reason why it LOOKS like the Xbox One was selling at a faster rate, but 1 million consoles in a day pretty much trumps that. Especially given that Sony only needed 1 market to sell that many.

JokesOnYou3791d ago

OK but outselling could be 10 sold vs 11 for that specific retailer, what about others who frankly feel no need to go on record about sales??? Every retailer/country in the world??? Links please???

Actually ps4 had bigger launches in regions like US and UK but again that's for completely separate launches= more stock in 2 separate launches vs X1 stock spread to 13 regions. Logic says although more sales upfront in those 2 large regions may be better for headlines the overall totals are nearly the same, that's simple math because a car manufacturer could sell cars in 1 or 100 regions but if you only have a supply of 1000 cars vs your competitor with 1000 cars at launch and you both sellout you both only sold 1000 cars.

What we do know is NPD said X1 sold more per day vs ps4 in Nov= not rumors and speculation, but confirmed.
http://m.joystiq.com/2013/1...

What we do know is:
"Xbox One beats PS4 in Australia"
http://www.mcvpacific.com/n...

DragonKnight3790d ago

Jokes, are you really trying to suggest that there is a change the X1 could have outsold the PS4 based on no name retailers choosing not to divulge sales?

You're really desperate aren't you?

You just need to accept that the PS4 is doing better than the X1 right now.

LeCreuset3790d ago

@JOY

"What we do know is NPD said X1 sold more per day vs ps4 in Nov= not rumors and speculation, but confirmed."

There's a reason you need to qualify your bullcrap by adding "per day." It's spin. NPD is throwing MS a bone. Because Xbox came out a week later, they are trying to create the impression that it is only because Xbox launched later that PS4 beat it in sells (A funny argument coming from the camp that boasted of having more sells with the 360 than a system that launched a whole year after it, but I digress.).

To say that Xbox sold more per day is deliberately misleading. Why? Because the PS4 sold out fast and was not available for the whole time period. After the first day, most, if not all, PS4's were sold. So what MS wants us to do is to take into consideration that Xbox was not available until the 22nd, but their argument conveniently neglects to factor in that the PS4 was not available every day from the 15th on. Yes, it launched on the 15th, but it was not available every day from the 15th on.

JokesOnYou3790d ago (Edited 3790d ago )

Dragonknight & Lecruest it was a response to Unreal01 who said:

"Microsoft's numbers aren't adding up."

What Iam specifically pointing out is there is plenty of data/examples to suggest that X1 sales are indeed on par with ps4 sales vs his assumption based on whatever unknown sources he's referring to who has said ps4 is outselling X1. It was to demonstrate that his logic isn't sound when stating X1 sales don't add up. Nothing about my posts suggests as a whole X1 is winning in total sales or that ps4 doesn't have less supply like in Australia but again that doesn't change the fact that at least up until last count they were both essentially neck n neck, also although it seems X1 has better supply after launch ps4 has been available through many retailers off and on with quick sellouts, again though not sure about allocations also better stock on micros part is a positive. lol, the purpose of my response that X1 is selling well isn't to prove that ps4 is or is not, it's to highlight those specific links showing X1 is selling well in comparison to ps4, contrary to what Unreal claims...that's all no need to take it personal.

LeCreuset3790d ago

@JOY

You could have made that point without throwing out the misleading talking point of Xbox One selling more per day.

In fact, those numbers have nothing to do with judging if a console is the fastest selling, as it is described in the link you provided. For example, if Product A launched on day 1 and completely sold through its stock of 1,000 units in 10 hours, and was not available on days 2 & 3, the average sells per day from time of availability (day 1) to day 3 would be 333.33. Now, if Product B launched on day 2 and sold through its stock of 1,000 units in 24 hours, it's average sells per day from time of availability through day 3 would be 500 units. Looking at it from each products time of availability to day 3 shows that Product A only averages 333.33 units per day sold versus 500 per day for Product B, but clearly this is impacted by Product A being unavailable after Day 1, and clearly a product which sells 1,000 units in 10 hours is faster selling than a product which takes 24 hours to move 1,000 units.

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LeCreuset3791d ago

@KingDad

"Actually the largest console market by Country is the USA and Xbox One has sold more consoles in the USA in a shorter period of time."

Link please.

Bolts-N-Rays11093791d ago (Edited 3791d ago )

Great launches for both consoles. Now lets flip the calendar to 2014, so we can play all the great games that are coming out!

EDIT: I love that the first 3 comments all have subtle jabs at MS. How shocking on PSN4G.

solidsheep3791d ago

Don't be so sensitive. There are other sites for you.

Bolts-N-Rays11093791d ago

Link me too another site that posts news articles from all gaming and entertainment sites so they are all in one place.

solidsheep3791d ago

I don't need to. Just grow up a bit and stop taking videogame fans opinions so seriously.
Anyway someone needs to be the whipping boy each generation. Last generation it was the ps3, and before that it was the Gamecube, and before that it was Sega. It's just a vicious cycle that will never stop.

malokevi3791d ago

How is it that you only have 3 bubbles, with an awesome comment like that? You've got the right attitude. 2014 is going to be awesome. Here, have a bubble up.

wynams3791d ago

Try polygon if you want a nice MS echo chamber

Bolts-N-Rays11093791d ago

Ew, Polygon... I don't even know how Xbox fanboys go to that site.

Sci0n3790d ago

misterx also has a site for the indenial and delusional xbots just google the address and you will find it. Lies on that site regarding the X1s stats are glorified and as long as you are drinking the green koolaid even though its poisoned you will be accepted.

nategrigs3791d ago

I thought the first comment was a jab at sony?

ZodTheRipper3791d ago

Double negatives can be confusing, huh? :P
But you should understand my comment if you have followed the news in the last few weeks.

MasterCornholio3791d ago (Edited 3791d ago )

Making claims that N4G is being run by "teh Sony fanboys" wont get you anywhere. Stop being paranoid and just admit that at this moment the PlayStation brand is more popular than the Xbox brand. Which is why the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One.

P.S Even though the Xbox One is getting outsold by the PS4 it isnt a bad system to own. I dont own one because im not really interested in Microsoft exclusives and paying 100$ more for a camera and a weaker system doesnt fancy me at all.

LeCreuset3791d ago

PSN4G? You must not have been here the other week when that pro-MS mod went on a rampage.

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TheFallenAngel3791d ago

I still laugh at major nelson fastest selling comment.

JBSleek3791d ago

It is a correct statement. Technically the Xbox One is the "fastest selling" console on a per week basis as the PS4 has the higher volume.

TheFallenAngel3791d ago

Yeah and ps4 outsold xbones sales within 24 hours. You can't sell what you don't have.

CGI-Quality3791d ago

I'm trying to understand your math. The PS4 is the fastest selling console, at launch, and has the higher tally to date. Your view doesn't make sense.

JeffGUNZ3791d ago

It makes sense. It's worded that way for PR but it's fact.

First, he's talking about America. Second, he is going per amount sold TOTAL at the time he made that claim. Since the X1 was out a week AFTER and you added the total sold in America for each console, you then divide that by the amount of DAYS it was out on the market. Since the X1 was out for less time, it's numbers per day were higher. That's all that statement said.

Now, it's pretty obvious one of the factors could have been PS4 were out of stock so it was hard for them to continue to sell as much as the demand was.

This is PR folks, anyway to make a product look good. This is why boasting about sales this early into a launch is dumb. Lets start looking this time next year.

DigitalRaptor3790d ago

@ JeffGunz

It's still spin, and spin (real meaning - "deception") should be criticised.

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jessupj3790d ago

And people complain that the first few comments are always calling MS out on their BS...

I showed my wife who's not into gaming both headlines and she just laughed at MS's pathetic attempt to try to spin the numbers.

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Christopher23h ago

It's not the fault of the gaming industry. Gamers were told what was happening, were warned about where this would lead, did nothing, and now are acting like it's the fault of publishers that they kept buying these games and investing in MTX. If only those gamers at that time felt as strongly about these things as they do Helldivers 2.

Hugodastrevas22h ago

I don't think MTX target the common gamer but instead predate on the so called "whales". It's gambling pure and simple.

Christopher21h ago

Oh, so it's okay to buy MTX-laden games as long as you don't spend money on MTX, which has led to even more MTX-laden games with even more predatory practices where content that used to be unlocked is now behind paywalls?

C'mon now people. You gave the corporations and inch, and they kept taking and taking. Community members told people that investing in these things alone would only lead to more and more MTX and putting more and more behind paywalls. But it's only the fault of the corporations, not the people who kept supporting it with purchases as more and more was taken away?

Hugodastrevas21h ago

@Christopher that's a straw man, I didn't say any of that I just added context.

-Foxtrot18h ago

Well exactly

People stand up for something which seems small to them and they get called whiners or negative. Then years later the shit hits the fan and they all go “why is this happening?” Like they are innocent.

The issue aswell is younger gamers who grew up with all this thinking it’s normal and we all just look like old farts yelling at clouds when we’re trying to help us all, even them.

Crows9010m ago

Who woulda thought that listening to your elders could be a good idea...too late now

Hugodastrevas22h ago

This is what amazed me the most when playing hours upon hours of stellar Blade version 1.00.00 no bugs, no crashes, no sudden drops in frames, no screen tear, no falling from the world, just a complete package on a game under 50GB.
I think Korea will play a major role in gaming in the long run , because they're releasing banger after banger.

isarai22h ago

Still pretty common to find if you stay away from the AAA publishers, in the last 10yrs ive probably only bought like 3 games combined from EA/ACTIVISION/UBISOFT. Even now i still buy games that work right out the box perfectly fine. Just recently got like 6hrs into Alone in the Dark, and not a single sign of any of that bs, really enjoying my time with it.

shinoff218315h ago

There's such a misconception about every game needing a patch,this and that when in reality it's not even close. You nailed it isarai

Crows908m ago

It's really only AAA devs and publishers that seem to have these constant problems

z2g1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

And we as gamers have to accept our role in that. Constantly never being satisfied. Constantly demanding more while paying less. Constantly demanding better frame rates, better graphics, more modes and faster faster faster…. Then review bombing the product when a demand isn’t met. Meanwhile those same demands are making games more difficult, complex and more expensive to create than ever before, on shrinking timelines that burn out employees and make their lives miserable.

You wanna know why so many games get delayed? Cuz the original release dates weren’t realistic to begin with, but you can’t tell a gamer their game is further away than they want to hear. Some dev or game designer will be threatened physically. That builds even more pressure and rushing. We are officially squeezing water out of rocks and still complaining about that how hard you have to squeeze the rock be just waiting for rain. Most of the time we take it out on the developing studio, when it’s the publisher making the calls.

All you need to do is read the comments on most websites and social media to see how toxic, entitled and petty the gaming community at large is, and realize how that transforms into impossible expectations on the parts of game makers.

Crows905m ago

Nope. Some gamers are to blame. Never demanded anything you mentioned.

A fully finished and functioning product is a standard. It's not demanded. If someone sells you a tv that only works 60% of the time are you going to recommend it OR write a review calling out the obvious problem...it's not a demand...it's a standard.

A standard triple A publishers can't seem to hit consistently.

Kinza550121h ago(Edited 1h ago)

This is one battle that gamers have never won, hahaha. They were parading recently for their "win" against Sony. Where's the energy for this one, guys? LMAO!

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