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Sony talks Trophy transfers to PS4, also confirms no HDMI capture at launch

Incase anyone was thinking of making a new PSN account for online gaming with the Playstation 4 and transferring their current Trophy collection, this won't be possible. Also HDMI capture for launch will not be available.

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Majin-vegeta3867d ago

Yes i wanna keep on building my trophies.would hate to start all over.

Now we wait for the xbox fanboys to turn this into a negative article xuz of the HDMI -_-.

Blaze9293867d ago

insecure much?

anyway, I wonder if we can change our PSN names this time around.

xHeavYx3867d ago

I think they haven't confirmed/denied anything regarding changing PSN names, they did mention it's a complex process

AridSpider3867d ago

@xHeavYx

Microsoft has enabled their consumers to change gamertags as many times as they want since the Xbox 360 launched. Maybe even back on the original Xbox. Of course, for a fee.

Sony is now charging us for PSN come next gen - complex process or not (which i don't believe) they better figure it out. How hard can it really be.

Which is why i think we all need to start asking Sony what exactly ARE their PSN plans next-gen. We're all required to pay now but we really havent heard anything on how the infrastructure has and will improve compared to today.

ohiostatesman3867d ago

Can't even do capture on PS4. WTF. For being a next gen system. The PS4 doesn't seem that way.

soljah3867d ago

can u capture game footage from hmdi on the ps3?
doesn't it have the same copy protection system?

Destrania3867d ago

@AridSpider

And yet you can't transfer your Gamerscore over. That's worse.

jatakk3867d ago

@Destrania

What do you mean by can't transfer your Gamerscore over?

If you mean that if you change your gamertag the gamerscore isn't transferred, you are wrong.

If you mean transferring achievements/trophies and gamerscore/trophy level on the 360/PS3 between different accounts, you are right.

Deadpoolio3867d ago

They have confirmed that NO you cannot change your name if your transferring it from PS3 to PS4....But that your more than welcome to just create a new ID.....Nobody lets you change your name

darren_poolies3867d ago

@AridSpider

Yes but don't Microsft charge you to do that? Something like 800 MS points?

hellzsupernova3867d ago

I will be helpful and answer your question. No you cannot change your user name at this stage. However you can change the way it appears, eg you can use your real name.

Sono4213867d ago

Please Sony don't allow people to change their names!

Everytime i'm on xbox that's all I get is a bunch of messages that all say something along these lines "hey this is blahblahblah and ive now changed my name to blahblah just letting you know" now this wouldn't be so bad if people didn't change their gamertags every other week! It's nearly impossible to keep track of who's who if you have over 5 friends.... PLEASE Sony... DON'T allow us to change our names... and if you do.. only once!

FamilyGuy3866d ago

HDMI capturing will be patched, there's ways around the protection that people serious about game capture should already be aware of/have anyway.

Obviously your trophies aren't going to transfer if you're making a new account, what kind of question is that?

As far as changing your user name goes, Japanese PSN accounts/users have had this ability for a long time. It's not "hard to do", it's just not implemented in other countries. The reason/reasons why could be anything but the user above me has a scenario that might be why.

I could imagine being annoyed by seeing names I don't recognize pop up on my PSN friends list because of people changing their minds so often. I know it annoyed me in WKCs 2 with a few of my friends that would change their characters names or appearances too often.

As far as I'm concerned none of this is even "news", all this has been known for a while.

pixelsword3866d ago

"Incase anyone was thinking of making a new PSN account for online gaming with the Playstation 4 and transferring their current Trophy collection, this won't be possible."

Incase?

Who allowed this to pass?

Jaces3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

That would be nice I suppose, though my PSN name has grown on me a bit. lol!

noctis_lumia3866d ago

dont need to be insecure we all know which console will get OWNED next gen

xbox one

President3866d ago

What a dumb title: "Trophy transfers to PS4" should be Trophy transfers to another PSN ID.

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abzdine3867d ago

his answers are always so damn short :D

UnHoly_One3867d ago

I think Yes and No are the only English words he can type. lol

ProA0073867d ago

"The Playstation 4 was originally planned to also include this restriction. However due to a backlash from customers and Microsofts Xbox One allowing HDMI capture, Sony recently reversed this restriction"

Lol...i just find that funny - you know, following the Xbox One DRM situation. But no one makes fun of Sony for this reversal 180 huh? Ooooof course not.

SonyNGP3867d ago

Why make fun of it? It's not funny in the slightest. I sure as hell didn't want Sony to implement that backwards-ass restriction again.

Nicaragua3867d ago

at least he is up front about the reason for the change instead of spouting off how they did it because the fans are passionate.

come_bom3867d ago

Of course Sony does 180's, they just aren't badly advertised as Microsoft's 180's... specially in N4G.

neocores3867d ago

Troll much sony as mark,shu said they never even had that on thier mind they have said it many times to

Blaze9293867d ago

@ProA007

lol you know it's "cool" to hate Microsoft and their products nowadays. It's just the "cool" thing to do. Don't you want to be "cool"?

thebudgetgamer3867d ago

"But no one makes fun of Sony for this reversal 180 huh?"

Isn't that what you're doing right now?

GiggMan3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

180's are good as long as they are not bone head 180's. Who cares as long as we benefit. Keep the positive 180's coming MS and Sony :-)

admiralvic3867d ago

"Lol...i just find that funny - you know, following the Xbox One DRM situation. But no one makes fun of Sony for this reversal 180 huh? Ooooof course not."

Cause a problem that at most affects 3% (I assume it's well under 1%...) of the total market is the same as DRM that affects 100% of the market. Also unlike the original Xbox DRM, you had realistic and viable solutions...

1) Use the included PVR functions. No one is stopping you, just stopping you from using your own machine to get it.
2) Get a splitter. Worked on the PS3 and should work on the PS4.

Where as Xbox One was

1) Buy the system and accept it.
2) Don't buy the system and move on.

Also, even though I am one of the people with an HDPVR, I would say that you couldn't even make it into a big deal if you tried. Even when this was first rumored people just said to use the included one and shut up.

QuickdrawMcgraw3867d ago

Aren't you making fun?Who is this no one you speak of?

PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt3867d ago

because its a small problem with a simple patch. Xbox one was built around the DRM and all features that came with it

M-M3867d ago

That's because no one reads the articles, just the headline lol. The restriction mainly had to do with Sony being a movie company, so they got paranoid and restricted the whole system.

Deadpoolio3867d ago

Uh Nice try troll...Sony never said that you couldn't so there is NOTHING to One80 about....Unlike Micro$oft who has to One80 every other day.....It's amazing how hard you Xbots have to try to troll knowing that the company whose spunk you love gargling are the kings of flip flopping

MajorMayhem703866d ago

You better hush you mouth boyyyy! This is Sony were talking about. If somebody should hear you talking like that, well let's just say it could get ugly round here. You know damn well there's separate rules considering which console we're talking about. Now run along boy. We're starting to draw attention..... Lmao

FamilyGuy3866d ago

It's only a 180 if you say no, then change your mind to yes, or something similar. Sony is changing a standard function to be more user friendly based on request. The HDMI video capture protection is standard on all bluray players, they're going out of their way to change this standard for the fans. A 180 would be if they said "We won't be be doing/allowing this." and later changed because of backlash.

THC CELL3866d ago

Rather em block video than gaming yawn off back to bed and dream about my ps4 again killzone in my dreams wtf I just killed the Master Chief wait its a dream ah well.

Mr_Luke3866d ago

@ProA007
I hope you understand the difference between DRM on games and this about capturing from HDMI... well, since you posted that, i guess you have no clue about it.

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Bundi3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

So obsessed with Xbox fans.

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showtimefolks3866d ago

Please don't allow people to change their user names, on xbox360 it's weekly thing to change name so to quite hard to keep track of all your friend list

Maybe allow a one time thing but not anytime you want deal

XisThatKid3865d ago

Why not make it a pay thing maybe first time free kinda deal I just want to group my FList like on AIM or something or PSN Clans and transferable across various games save time and organizable

showtimefolks3864d ago

XisThatKid

that's smart 1st one free but after that anywhere from $2.99 to $5.99, the more expensive it is the better chances not many will keep spending just to change name

FACTUAL evidence3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

This pretty much confirms sony not making a psn id change feature for ps4, so these a-holes just not going to let me change my name? No way im dropping 90 plats, and hundreds of dollars in downloads.....Sony don't upset us and make a name change feature possible.....it's not as simple as just making a new "FREE" account anymore...MAKE IT HAPPEN, get with the program already.

CuddlyREDRUM3866d ago

Or Sony fanboys saying no HDMI capture at launch, when Mark Cerny was talking about it in the Spring, is no big deal.

pixelsword3866d ago (Edited 3866d ago )

I'm almost willing to say that it can be bypassed.

I'm expecting to see videos within the first few days of the launch.

corvusmd3866d ago

At least you acknowledge that the HDMI is a negative. True, I really don't care, but since PS Fanboys would be quick (in fact first post) to point out the same thing if it was the other way around....here is goes..my impression of a PS Fanboy in reverse:
"HAHAHA PS3.5 sucks it will fail!! Another 180 by $Ony!! First they said there would be NO HDMI support, now they have to backtrack to keep up with Microsoft. XB1 FTW"

See how annoying that crap is??? This is why people are touring away from PS4 so fast, because it seems that MS's "no jerks" policy is all about sending them to PS4. At least what I was purposely being annoying about was based on fact...most times PS Fanboys are just spitting non-sense. It's actually true that Sony said they would not support HDMI capture at all, now reversed that policy and is doing it late. The reason you noticed that this would get trolled, is cause you are one of the biggest trolls out there and if it was the other way, you'd be all over it....if you don't like it...stop doing it.
(Respond and cry all you want, I'll never see it, I don't respect your opinion because you've proven over and over that you're just a biased fanboy that has no needs for facts)

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malokevi3867d ago

Duh! Achievements/trophies are, and should be, tied to the identity under which they were earned. If you get a new identity, it makes sense that you have to start from scratch. Otherwise, people would be swapping trophies and selling their accounts like crazy.

That's why I've been "killing machine" since 2001/2002. So long ago that I can't even remember when the Xbox Live beta test happened.

I'm 23 years old. So 2001 was more than half a lifetime ago for me. I can say with confidence that there are very few things in my life that have been as consistent as my Xbox Live gamertag. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't proud, and that I didn't have some sort of emotional attachment to the account.

For as long as I can, I wont be giving it up. I'm hoping to bag a similar name on PSN, though I assume the pickings are slim at this point in the game.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II3867d ago

I will take that name on a dummy account so you cant have it... I joke :) or do i?

KUV19773867d ago

You can just register it now in case it is still available.
https://store.sonyentertain...

malokevi3866d ago

Oh thats cool, I'm just gonna wait, but good to know!

QuickdrawMcgraw3866d ago

Ha sneaky malokevi always throws a little mention of Sony in his writings.Sneaky trolls worst then blatant fanboys.

malokevi3866d ago

Two comments? Wow, you're really desperate for my attention. Flattered, but spoken for, thanks!

malokevi3866d ago

...

Sony, he who shall not be named!

Take a pill.

QuickdrawMcgraw3866d ago

LOL I can assure you a pill is not need.I'm just on to you sneaky malokevi.Find a different schtick.Or better yet just come out and be what you are a flaming Xbox fanboy.Nothing wrong with that.Be up front and proud of it.

GTgamer3866d ago

I figured him out a couple days ago.

malokevi3866d ago

Lol, settle down buddyboy! I literally said nothing bad about ps4, if you bother to actually read my comment. In fact, all I said was that I hope my gamertag is available on PSN.

So yeah... take a pill, sounds like you need to chillax a little =P I can only assume your open minded enough to consider getting an xbox? Lol

*rolls eyes*

Heee who shall not be named, loogout weasly!

QuickdrawMcgraw3866d ago

It's ok sneaky mal,you can pretend it's you is oh so calm and cool.And you can pretend it's you who's so open minded,we know the truth.Just think back to some of your past comments.It always the same.So if that's your schtick and you don't have what it takes to be up front.That's ok.There is room for all of us gamers here.

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pixelsword3866d ago

No, I think once it's transferred, you should get three times to change your name, and that's it.

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Transporter473867d ago

I'm glad they are going to support HDMI capture too bad its not launch but i'm happy it will come. Also until then I want to try the Share button :P

mt3867d ago

true I hope it comes so fast after launch. I want to flood youtube with my silly videos. XD

4logpc3867d ago

I wonder how big sites will get their video for reviews without breaking the law.

ALARM-clock3867d ago

Most of the big game reviewers will be given debug consoles from Sony.

shadow27973867d ago

The same way they do now, since the PS3 (and maybe the 360?) has this restriction.

4logpc3866d ago

ps3 has component out, ps4 does not.

Xbox 360 has component and doesnt have HDCP on on game content.

mushroomwig3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

'also confirms no HDMI capture at launch'

This has been known for some time now, it'll be a software patch soon after launch due to consumer demand.

ProA0073867d ago

they never gave a time frame.

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Let's Be Real, There Is Nothing "Micro" About Microtransactions Anymore

Microtransactions have gotten ridiculously overpriced in recent years, with titles now offering cosmetic skins worth more than some games.

Terry_B21h ago

Yup..this is 100% the sad truth

z2g30m ago(Edited 28m ago)

The elephant in the room tho is personal accountability. It’s easy (albeit basic) to blame the big, bad corpo, but microtransactions wouldn’t be where they are if gamers didn’t spend money on them. As it stands the MTs usually make more than the game. Publishers know raising game prices will cause backlash, so they do MTs to compensate. But the adult conversation is consumers determine the success of products with their wallets. So if MTs are a huge thing, it’s because we as consumers told them we like them by giving them a lot of money for them. So if you don’t want them to be a thing, convince your fellow gamers to stop buying them and expect that games will be decently more expensive. You all can disagree all you want, but reality is a bitch, and eventually you have to live in it.

isarai13h ago

I mean except for the amount of content you're paying for.

Hugodastrevas2h ago

There never was, the only time I paid for a microtransaction was on Blacklight Retribution (PS4) and it was because I enjoyed the game a lot so I felt the devs should get something for all that entertainment (€5 "membership")

-Foxtrot1h ago

The devs wouldn’t get that though, that shit goes straight to the higher ups who do f*** all let’s be honest.

Hugodastrevas35m ago

Probably, but I wasn't as cynical back then and €5 wasn't a big ask to get the guns with grinding instead of renting them, and the game was good (still is on the PS5/4)

CrimsonWing6913m ago(Edited 13m ago)

I couldn’t believe what Blizzard charged for horse armor and cosmetics in Diablo 4…

I remember back in the day when a season pass was $15 and you got everything included in it. Now, I see them at $60 and you still don’t get everything.

Shane Kim0m ago

As soon as gaming wasn't deemed nerdy anymore, and reached the casuals this happened. We're smart, but casuals play mobile games and other stuff, and don't really have anything to compare. They think gaming is supposed to be like this and pay for in game purchases.

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No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

darksky2h ago

HG could have stopped after making 3-4 updates and the debt would have been paid to those why are crying about paying full price. However, they have continously provided free updates for the last 6-7 years. No other developer in hostory has ever done this and probably never will.
There are many AAA games that disappointed but the devs normally move on or close the studio rather than fix the game.

-Foxtrot20h ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic188119h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z19h ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after supporting No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it. They can do it but some people just decide not to.

Blad3runner006h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

People paid for the game at launch and got lied to. Now the game is what it SHOULD have been from the start (what people paid for) and we should be happy they aren't charging EXTRA? Its free because people ALREADY paid for the game at launch.

People PAID for what the game is in its current state (what it should have been at launch), not what it was when it released. Charging people AGAIN would result in even more backlash.

anast6h ago

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

They already charged for the full price game. All of that work is owed because it was already paid for.

JackBNimble19m ago

Fox ... sure HG made a huge mistake, but they have also done more then any development team that I have seen to fix the problem and go way beyond in supporting the game. And every update has been free, so I don't really get why you are holding on to this grudge.

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milohighclub8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Whatever happened at launch is in the past. By your logic they could have supported it for a year got it to the project they promised then stopped but they didn't. They're still supporting it to this they, they've released more content post than pretty much any game I can think off. More than most MMOs. They didn't have to go this far but they have and don't have any plans of stopping. All for free too.
Yeah they had a shit launch and they've apologised, learned and more than made up for it. I was pissed off at them at launch, but not petty enough to keep slandering them 7 years later.
You have much bigger studios releasing half assed games and fixing it later or even worse not even bothering.

anast5h ago

The DLC costs money. But yeah, people are hanging on to this one longer because of their previous reputation.

TheCaptainKuchiki8h ago

And it doesn't change the fact that the game is a boring procedurally generated environment in which your repeat the same actions over and over again with no real purpose. I hate when they say that the game became good.

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thorstein20h ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

Hugodastrevas18h ago

I'd say it's THE definitive comeback story

TheGamingHounds17h ago

Final Fantasy 14 takes that one imho

CrimsonWing696h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Yep and the way they actually did it where Bahamut destroyed the original FF14 and the realm was “reborn” seals it as the best way to do something like this, lol.

jwillj2k418h ago

Oh great another story about the cleanest shirt in a bin of dirty laundry.

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The Holy Gosh Darn: Ozan Drøsdal Talks Dialogue Skipping Mechanics And Why He Hates The Word Quirky

Ozan Drøsdal tells TheGamer about The Holy Gosh Darn, the final part of the Tuesday Trilogy.

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