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PS4 And Next Xbox Won't Save Console Gaming

GameRevolution:

"I've been playing games for 80% of my life now and that number will only inch upwards as I continue into old age, senility, and all the other horrible things that go along with it. I've been the kind of enthusiast that always wanted the newest games and the latest information, making E3 an inter-dimensional portal to the future and, oh my God, the future is awesome! Seriously, have you guys seen the Nintendo 64? 64 is a ridiculously high number which means it's super-powerful.

"The point is, I've been around the block. I've been a dedicated portable gamer. I've been on the winning side of console wars and I've been on the losing side of the console wars. I've seen fat times and I've seen lean times, and so has the industry. But consoles have never seen so many threats to their market, including the missteps that have taken place over the past eight years. Believe me when I say the major console manufacturers have kind of screwed themselves on this one."

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Vengeance11384008d ago

Not even gonna read this one due to its lunacy. Unless its a humor piece? "Save" console gaming?? Froooommm what? Exactly? Console gaming will be around forever and not much if anything can replace it.

-Mika-4008d ago (Edited 4008d ago )

It seems like you already have your mind made up so Im not going to go into detail to explain why you're wrong. All I have to say is think logically and be realistic. Take off your rose colored glasses and think. This doesn't just apply to you. This applies to most of the other users on this site because it honestly seems like me and a few other users are honestly thinking realistically about the gaming industry and it future.

joeorc4007d ago

"Now the freshest, most forward-thinking talent in games development has an open and accessible market waiting for their product. It doesn't matter if many iOS and Android games never hit the highs of an Angry Birds or Rope-Cutting Simulator. The fact that these individuals, the ones responsible for coding and designing the next big thing on your home console, have left the market altogether is a warning shot to Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft."

ok the jist of this entire piece is the PC and the smartphone and Tablet devices will further erode the console viability in the market.

The problem with this way of looking at it is, that A: the console manuf. all see this as a threat and have already taken strides to offset this. for instance all three are putting large investment's into mobile gaming space that cater's to the console player. and allows those very same developer's to make money on their software that will also run on these companies console platforms thus extra systems to make money on with the exact same software released. to not just smartphones but now also on console's at the same time.

as for PC

Notice the development's for the PC software many times now the same publisher's are also putting console as a development game that is also made for PC.

which means self publishing is the only thing of market dynamic that will matter, abd once again all three are heading toward friendly methods for self publishing on their platform. Sony already has the Pub fund, Microsoft has expanded the from the xna program as a matter of fact both Microsoft and Sony are both using x86 this time instead of Power PC processor's.

this piece talked about PC getting more people while console gamers install base eroding just does not make a lick of sense.

_-EDMIX-_4007d ago

if someone is wrong is it not your job to disprove that!? to say console gaming is dead is a complete joke. 260 million people say otherwise.

I love handheld PC gaming much as the next guy, but my love For has nothing to do with its financial status. talk to me when AMD or Nvida sells 260 million high end GPUs.... in a single generation. PC gaming has amazing titles like star citizen, but as a Macy a star citizen is it will sell like destiny I 100 percent guarantee it! that is why console gaming remain on the "winning" side

dcbronco4007d ago

Mika,

There is no doubt people need to start thinking more realistically. But the gaming industry is fine. One of the major things that drives sales is new hardware. We are in the longest generation ever. It has been far too long. There is nothing in entertainment that can compete with the gaming industry right now. Not movies or music. Once the next consoles release, the sales will pick up again. And if there are deals that subsidize the purchase of the console early sales will be better than ever.

And motion controls aren't a mistake. In conjunction with standard controllers they will push innovation forward. Nothing is perfect day one. Over time and with power motion controls will become a wanted and needed addition to gaming.

raWfodog4007d ago (Edited 4007d ago )

The previous generation of PS2 and Xbox sold 180 million units combined. The 360, PS3, and Wii have sold a combined total of more than 250 Million consoles this generation. There is unprecedented enthusiam from both developers and gamers regarding the PS4 and NextBox for this upcoming generation.

You say 'think logically and realistic' but to think that iOS and mobile gaming is going to somehow take developer's attention away from AAA console development is not logical at all, not with units sold forecasting into the hundred millions. Of course we'll see more developers emerging into mobile gaming but that does not equate into less consoles, just more business.

sikbeta4007d ago

Now there is no hope...

:(

avengers19784007d ago

Xbox 80 million PS3 80 million wii 100 million... All 3 companies were just fine last generation. Not to mention the handheld market. Gaming is still huge, and as long as there are people( by the hundreds of millions ) playing and paying for games there will be consoles for a long time.

jlukee4007d ago

People can't seriously believe that a 5 minute mini game on ios and android is going eradicate the market for playstation/xbox devs... Sure you lose some of the casual gamers, which is more of a worry for nintendo, but you won't see a dent in the hardcore market for a few decades at least. People who want to play a serious, detailed and supported game will buy a console. It's as simple as that.

_-EDMIX-_4007d ago

@rawfodog- I completely agree. look at it this way just because the handheld Market begin to rise didn't crush replace consoles. in fact the DS alone sold 150 million units.... a single handheld almost sold more units then all the consuls combined last generation.... that's sort of a big deal..... yet here we are with the longest generation in recorded history and 150 million units later.

I'm sorry but because one part of gaming is growing doesn't mean it's destroying the other part. did the idiot who wrote this article ever stop to think that maybe some of the people who are playing these casual phone games also own consoles? hey genius just because I play words with my friends doesn't mean I'm not preordering and grand theft auto 5, I downloaded limbo off of steam I guess I'm no longer playing Battlefield 3 then...lol. it's even more funny when you realize that there more consoles sold this generation than any other.

the only thing that someone can take from this generation is that there's an explosion of more gamers!

Army_of_Darkness4007d ago (Edited 4007d ago )

I have a tablet, smartphone, desktop and Laptop all with casual games here and there, but has it ever gave me the thought of replacing my real games on my Ps3 or consoles in general??
NEVER!
Those casual android games will/ and have never satisfied my hunger for video games.
That touching and swiping crap doesn't cut it with real games. A big screen HDTV with an actual console, controller and AAA games will always be required for true, longer lasting Hardcore games.

I don't think Sony and nintendo will ever abandon console gamers... well, not for a while anyway.

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miyamoto4008d ago (Edited 4008d ago )

not gonna approve this article... but PS4 already did, imho. I know it when I see it and i am calling it now.

Sev4007d ago

The PS4 didn't yet - it's not even out.

This last console generation went on far too long, and everyone in the console business is paying for it. Software sales, which drive the profit from this business, are way down. Publishers are taking less risks, so there are less and less releases on the horizon. Even the big games that have released this year, have been considered failures (like Tomb Raider) because they needed to sell more to be truly profitable.

That just doesn't happen anymore, and it's because there are too many options for gamers now. People are limited to consoles only, and Nintendo, MS, and Sony have allowed that to happen, allowed other sectors of the industry to grow too large, simply by dragging this last generation's feet about two and a half years too long. They thought Move and Kinect would keep it going, but that did NOTHING to innovate.

fsfsxii4007d ago

@ sev
SE set their expectations way high for TR, i think 3.4 million copies in 1 month is good for a game like this, they want their games to sell like COD which is not happening.

OT: I don't know what needs saving, seriously.

Thatguy-3104008d ago

Exactly don't really know why it need "saving" O.o this us the first generation where the 3 manufacturers are able to cross the 100 million mark. Don't see why people are failing to see that.

knifefight4008d ago

I understand disagreeing with a prediction, but coming right out and admitting that you didn't even listen to the other side's point? That's kind of immature. >_>

As for the topic at hand:
There are valid points and concerns on both sides. I, for one, have no idea what will happen. On one hand, I want to think that console gaming will be fine for decades to come. On the other, I never thought digitally owning music would ever bump CDs like it has, never thought we'd see the day that teenagers own cellphones, etc. I don't know anymore, and I feel old, haha XD
I certainly hope console gaming sticks around.

uncharted564007d ago

I work in the IT industry. So I have some knowledge as to this even though I am still completing my degree and then gaming related programs so I can get into the gaming industry. Here is what I will say consoles will eventually diminish with time because more portable means of gaming will replace them. You will have portable devices that will start to emulate games with pc graphics. The only shortcoming I see in the portable gaming today is that the hardware limitation which will change with time and control scheme aka how the player interacts with the game because I am thinking in future they will implement something that will not be touchscreen based controls but maybe something futuristic or a controller that will be portable enough so you can carry it with your portable device and game on the go.

raWfodog4007d ago (Edited 4007d ago )

"You will have portable devices that will start to emulate games with pc graphics. The only shortcoming I see in the portable gaming today is that the hardware limitation which will change with time..."

But then wouldn't the logical evolution of that same argument be that as portable gaming becomes better so will 'stationary' consoles or PCs? People keep saying that portable gaming will become better but think that console and PC gaming won't continue to evolve as well.

ZodTheRipper4007d ago

Portable gaming replacing consoles? I don't think so. I rather play at home on a big TV. I probably even play more iPhone/Vita games at home than I do outside.

stuna14007d ago

I did'nt know console gaming needed saving! If anything we might very well have our first true case if immortality! Gaming on consoles is constantly evolving and will continue to do so.

SilentNegotiator4007d ago

The 7th gen saw the most hardware sold of ANY generation. What does console gaming need saving from?

ijust2good4007d ago

Not gonna save console gaming but will kill PC gaming.

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ApolloTheBoss4008d ago (Edited 4008d ago )

Just, just stop please. Let's not be delusional.

ftwrthtx4008d ago

Shouldn't it read "Save disc based Console Gaming" instead?

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TrendyGamers4008d ago

They'll definitely keep it going at the very least.

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mkis0072h ago

Such a good game to me. Crazy how different peoples opinions can get.

Crows902h ago(Edited 2h ago)

For me it wasn't that surprising. There was some bad press before. There's also the matter and element of a person's disposition when trying out a certain game. Sometimes you're just not really into the type of game that you're playing so you put it down because you don't like it. Not necessarily because it's a bad game but because you're just not up for something like this. Reviewers have a tough because no matter what they feel like playing they've got to play what's releasing.

I have many times gone back to games that I put down only to thoroughly enjoy them the second time around because either there wasn't another exciting game coming out around the same time or I just had no other games to play and haven't played that type of game in a while. I'm not the type of person that can just play a souls game through all this iterations one after the other without getting burnt out on the formula.

In my opinion this game was great from the start. Some bugs here and there but nothing worse than the most AAA releases during the same time after and before. All I did was wait one week and I had a phenomenal time with the game. No other zombie survival game comes close to how I thoroughly enjoyed this one

-Foxtrot1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Yeah I thought it was pretty decent, it had its flaws but for their first big console single player open world game it's a solid 8/10.

I have never seen an AAA "zombie" game feature as many enemies as the horde sections did, you really had to think about your surroundings and plan carefully.

I feel journalists had an issue with this game from the moment it was announced, they really didn't like the Biker characters and the overall Biker gang theme. If they were anything else I feel it would have had a better chance or at least they'd overlook some of the flaws like they do for certain other open world games. They don't mind waiting weeks or months for a patch knowing its coming but a game that has it Day 1 it's suddenly a big no no? Yeah this was one of those moments that showed you how they cherry pick who to suddenly decide to go harsh on when they want to.

mkis0071h ago

Ill never forget the reviewer who tried to claim the "ride me like you ride your bike" line was anything but a joke...they (sarah and deacon) explicitly call it a joke and the reviewer still misinformed the reader about it as if it was a literal thing.

Michiel198949m ago

the score on metacritic is 71 from journos, its 9 points lower than your review so stop making stuff up. They didn't hate it from the start, they on average just liked it slightly less than you.

-Foxtrot46m ago(Edited 46m ago)

@Michiel1989

I'm not making anything up, they held a grudge against it and made stuff up themselves like mkis007 has just pointed out. That 71 on Metacritic is why it didn't get a sequel.

Anyway how can I make anything up when I didn't even mention metacritic in my original post?

Leeroyw2h ago

Second act of that game far surpassed the first. Which is why people felt it didn't live up to the hype of the trailers. Personally I loved it. But it was a slog to get your bike and weapons up to skill.

Inverno2h ago

Was gonna post a brick wall of text but I'll keep it short. Pardon my French but f**k the media for the hate they gave this game. If you have a PC to play it on you can get it as low as 10 bucks, and if you have a PS then it's a no brainer. Totally worth a play.

phatak2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I don't even comment here often but had to for this game, I still stand by my opinion that this was one of the top 10 games of the ps4 generation, I preferred days gone over god of war, horizon and last of us 2, the launch version was definitely piss poor and that messed up the reviews for this game, honestly some games deserve a re-review or post patch review as the metacritic score stays forever but the reality is its not even the same game anymore, the ps5 patch is amazing and the pc version which I play on nowadays is one of the best looking games ever, complete shame that we wont get a sequel, god of war got one, horizon got one, last of us got one, spider man got one,ghosts of tshushima about to get one but this game wont get one, sucks to be honest.

Ps3/360 era had some hidden underated games for me it was shadows of the damned, alice madness returns that deserved more sales and a sequel/ higher scores, and similarly for the ps4 era it was days gone, and dying light 1 that deserved much more love, dying light atleast got a sequel, everyone needs to play this game once and judge for themselves, for me its officially the most underrated game of the ps4 era, go play it if you haven't.

andy851h ago

Awesome game. Just bought it for my laptop last week

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