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PS3 10% Ahead of 360 This Year Worldwide, 'Strong Contender' to Take Second Place

Xbox 360 shipped nearly 14 million units over the last fiscal year for Microsoft as the business grew 45%. The console and the Kinect camera have clearly propelled Microsoft forward in 2011, but in the end, a number of analysts still see Sony's PS3 edging out Xbox 360 on a global scale (despite a year's head start for Microsoft in the console wars). IndustryGamers surveyed several leading games business analysts to get their respective takes on the evolving console battle and who will end up in second place behind Nintendo's Wii. Here's what they had to say.

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ksense4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

notice how everyone keeps saying high replacement rates for the xbox 360. I feel that is one of the reasons xbox is still ahead besides the obvious year head start and year and a half in Europe.

@below Well I am just making a point about the article. I don't care if PS3 ends up third place as it has already taken first place as far as games go and games that resonate with me. The problem is that some xbox users defend their system of choice with sales and that is wrong. what shoudld matter is if the system is providing you with games that you really want and Microsoft has been lacking in that department with its focus almost entirely on Kinect. SALES DON'T MATTER unless you are a shareholder or an extreme fanboy that needs something to boast that their system is somehow superior because of it.

@superlupe I still have my 80 gb fat ps3 with backwards compatibility and I see no need to replace it with a slim console that has less features. On the other hand you have an xbox slim that has finally added wifi and is a lot less likely to RROD. so I think it would make sense to replace the fat one with the slim version so please use some common sense before spouting bullshit.

gamingdroid4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

What you consider important is different to everyone. For some, yes it is games and for others, it is other experiences like online community, maybe Blu-Ray and so on.

For some, I suppose it is sales. I find it interesting, but that factor doesn't shape in to my purchase (unless it is really bad and affects third party support or experience).

My point was that games alone isn't necessary the only appeal for everyone clearly as the Xbox 360 is still selling like hotcakes. Early in PS3's history, it was sold largely because of being the cheapest and highest quality Blu-Ray player.

Also, if all MS is selling are replacement, then it doesn't explain the strong software sales. As mentioned in the article, many of these used systems end up as second or third hand purchases.

Finally, the article is actually an estimate by an analyst that concedes he has been wrong multiple times in the past. It's not the actual numbers.

squallheart4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

I agree. @ksense me and my siblings all still have our ps3 fats and love them. I will only buy a slim when theres a price cut so i can use it for rpgs or games that i would play longer sessions seeing how they handle heat better. People need to use common sense. Most of the people i know are on their 4th 360 and ask why not buy a ps3 their anwer they prefer to own one bt cant afford it. Which then leads me to believe if thers a price cut theyll all jump ship.

darthv724659d ago

there is obviously something of interest on all 3 platforms that continue to garner the $$$ from consumers.

Pick your side if you will but dont deny that consumers are not fans like we are. They buy what they want and enjoy it without the 2nd guessing of others telling them they bought the wrong thing.

I work with a few people that bought their respected platforms for their reasons. Not anyone elses. I dont downplay what they do because it isnt my place. I tell them about the stuff they probably havent heard of for their platform.

Gaming is just to damn fun overall to pick a side.

blackbeld4659d ago

Xbox 360 will end on 3th place.

That is xbox fate...

EVILDEAD3604659d ago

LOL @ the 'analyst' bringing up that he through 3 Xboxes as his only support for the 'active' user base. The best part is ALL of it is speculation.

The bottomline is that Micrsoft dominates North America and Sony dominates Japan. When it comes to Europe, Micrsoft has sold commendable numbers in Europe, but it hasn't penetrated all of the countries that Sony has since the ol' PS2 days.

No matter how you many analyst bring up RROD and all the supposedly dead systems being replaced, the Xbox Live active members is now 40 Million+. Kinect did 10 million in only two quarters.

In the case of software, Micrsoft's dominant install base is exactly where it needs to be. North America and Europe dominate software sales. This is why Microsoft can sell Halo 3 and get 11 million in sales..Halo Reach and get 8 million in sales..and Gears of War and get 6 million a pop. All on the strength of America and Europe.

It's the exact same for PS3. Call of duty dominates PS3 sales (as it does the 360), with almost no sales from Japan. But, where it hurts Sony IMO is the fact that the biggest non-Japanese Sony exclusive franchise like Uncharted, Killzone, Little Big Planet, etc. get little interest from the Japanese user base. The majority won't even sell 200,000 in Japan. Where the Euro/NA market push millions.

So in the end, all 3 consoles found different ways to achieve success. At this point in the game the 360 sales have no effect on the PS3 and vice versa. None of em' are going to stop the Wii from ultimately reaching 100 Million install.

For the record all my 360s from original first year to my Elite to my Slim all work just fine. My PS3 slim and my Wii have never had problems as well. (knock on wood)

Support whatever system you own..there are just too many great games to be mad about whose going to win this fake war at this point.

Evil

kreate4659d ago

@evildead360

confirming .. 'all' ur 360s from the 'original first year' to ur elite. to ur slim all work fine?

how many original first year xbox360s do u hav? to ur elite. to ur slim?
and ur saying none of them broke down?

nix4658d ago

i now have faith in humanity.

EVILDEAD3604658d ago (Edited 4658d ago )

'how many original first year xbox360s do u hav? to ur elite. to ur slim?
and ur saying none of them broke down?'

That's exactly what I'm saying..don't believe the hype that EVERY Xbox must die just because a fake poll and a bunch a fan kids said so.

I bought my original first year Xbox and have since bought two white ones as gifts. I bought my black Elite as an upgrade and absolutely loved it. But, bought a Slim not too after it dropped and never looked back.

When PS3 unvieled the Slim I simply couldn't resist. Absolutely love it. I never liked the fat models, but only was going to buy one to be BC with Shadow of the Collosus. Fast forward and SOTC is coming in HD! (Life is good).

I own every console..just like every gen. But hands down this was the best console gen ever.

Evil

DualConsoleOwner4658d ago

"That's exactly what I'm saying..don't believe the hype that EVERY Xbox must die just because a fake poll and a bunch a fan kids said so. "

Are you kidding me? RROD was a freaking epidemic. Former Xbox 360 designers came out and even said so.

Polls were done by reputable magazines and what not all said that failure rate was as high as 50 percent. Hell even the law makers in UK forced MS to extend their warranty to cover RROD.

thats how bad it was. LoL. only fankids like you are trying to defend 360 with bs.

bunfighterii4658d ago

Feel like its one of the reasons? It clearly is one of the reasons, thats what they're all saying.

mikeslemonade4658d ago

Haha Wii doesn't count so PS3 will be #1! PSN down and PS3 still is outselling 360 this year!

AngryTypingGuy4658d ago

Both Sony and MS work incredibly hard, so they deserve any success that they get. Even you Sony fanboys have to admit...MS has done one hell of a job staking its claim in the videogame market. After PS2 dominated by such a large margin, no one expected the 360 to still be in the lead in summer 2011.

It'll probably stay in the lead through the beginning of 2012. The reason I'm predicting that is because there is both a Halo and Gears game coming out in fall. While Halo Anniversary is a remake and won't do the numbers of a "real" Halo, it will do well.

The fact that Xbox Live will be built into future versions of Windows is a brilliant move on MS's part. I'm wondering why they didn't do that sooner.

Oh yeah...before you PS3 fanboys accuse me of being a 360 fanboy, let me just say that I've been playing my PS3 almost exclusively since I bought it a few months ago. Which reminds me...gotta get back to God of War!

RedDragan4658d ago (Edited 4658d ago )

I just wanna say that due to the fact that my balanced and logical comments have cost me 3 bubbles and despite how much I want to comment I cannot risk posting an opinion... [see attached picture]

Fel084658d ago

@mikeslemonade

Last time I checked, the Wii was a gaming console. Whether u like it or not, it is still #1.

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miDnIghtEr4658d ago

@ksense... lmao.. sales don't matter to you, yet you just wrote a big old 3 paragraph response to a sales article. Ha.

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SuperLupe4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

I hope you guys stick to the "sales dont matter" attitude every time theres article about good 360 sales.

@KSENSE: 1. Bullsh!t.
2. I havent seen a fat ps3 in freaking years like a lot of other people unless its on a used console shelf... I guess a lot of PS3 sales are fat PS3 owners buying the slim...right ?

Whats your spin on that ?

M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Even if there was good news about 360 sales, sales still wouldn't matter. The only one worrying about what Sony fans think is you.

What matters the most are games either way. This must be your way of spewing damage control.

SlyFoxC4659d ago

im still rockin the fat PS3...whats up!

HannibalBarca4659d ago

My fat ps3 is still running strong

Ser4659d ago

I've still got my fat PS3.

Have at you.

morganfell4659d ago

Still got my 60GB Launch Fat. Just went from a 320GB to a 1TB drive. And two Slims in the house.

Electroshocked4659d ago

I still have my first 160 GB fat PS3, my friend uses it when he comes over, I bought a 250 GB slim a while back and I now use that, but the point is that I still have my 160 GB fat PS3, it's running perfectly and it's still being used. My friend also still has his 80 GB fat PS3. I'd like to see you giving proof of someone still having there first XBOX 360.

donniebaseball4659d ago

I still have my original "fat" PS3 too. Swapped out the 60GB HDD for a 250GB a couple years ago.

lil Titan4659d ago

with a name superlupe i expect to read intelligence but all i read is ignorance at least with this post...*checks other post* nope ignorance

kreate4659d ago

my original fat 60gb ps3 broke last year with the blinking red lights.

but .. i also went through 3 broken xbox 360s at the same time frame.
rrod. disk tray broken. the console not reading games.

were the problems i had.

InspectorG4658d ago

I still got my 60gb launch PS3, has never failed. Installed a 320gb drive in it, and it sings beautifully...

Treyb3yond4658d ago

I still got my 60gig original fat console. That bbw is still going strong and serves me well. 360 is a dead console dude, I never use mine because it has no exclusives. Face it, ms have done it again....onto the next gen. They will drop 360 cold just like the original xbox when the new one arrives.

Tonys Creed4658d ago

I still have my 80GB (now 320GB) fat PS3 (MGS4 bundle) and got it repair once for YLOD. Works like a new!!

DaTruth4658d ago (Edited 4658d ago )

My 60 gig is dead, but everyone else I know with a Fat still has theirs! I can't complain, I was on parental leave for 8 months and really put it through the works. It died one week later!

Don't worry though, if MS want to post big numbers they can just give away more 360's with PC's... and cars... and toilets....

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callahan094658d ago

Anecdote: I have been a PS3 owner since 2007, I have owned exactly 1 PS3. I have been a 360 owner since 2006, and I've bought 3 of them. My personal experience is that the 360 wasn't reliable enough until the new slim version came out last year. PS3 has been much more of a high-quality piece of hardware since the start, though now those new sweet 360's give it a good run for quality and reliability I think.

bebojet4658d ago

I still have my 80 GB PS3 and I recently upgrade the HDD to a 320GB. How's your fat 360?

hiredhelp4658d ago

Superlupe

@KSENSE: 1. Bullsh!t.
2. I havent seen a fat ps3 in freaking years like a lot of other people unless its on a used console shelf... I guess a lot of PS3 sales are fat PS3 owners buying the slim...right ?
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WAKE UP CALL there are gamers still use phats. If you pay close attention to specially videos that show devs working on playstation alot of them in background what so you see running. PHATS, why because they look better more vents , apart from added extras. If they could put reduced chip's in the phat we bring them bavk out id buy one. I have gon threw 3 PHATS
YLOD replaced with sony that second hand had fault sent back got another after a year i sold that on to get a slim. I MISS MY OLD PS3.

SkyGamer4658d ago (Edited 4658d ago )

How is it that everyone thinks MS will abandon the X360? You are so ill-informed. They used off the shelf parts for the original xbox and had no control over production. nVidia, (which powers the ps3 btw), no longer made the video card in the xbox and it would have costed a buttload of money. MS OWNS the chipset and graphics inside the X360. They can find another maker for the chips. That is why nVidia and ATI FOUGHT for the X360 contract. ATI eventually won because MS wanted to OWN the designs so they wouldn't have to have a repeat like the first Xbox. nVidia went to power the ps3. nVidia owns the 7800gtx. Just think if they discontinue that graphics...You think sony would still continue the ps3 if it didn't have an uber install base? No, they would cut their losses and make a new system, hopefully learning from their past mistakes.

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Jamzluminati4659d ago

I thought PS3 was already in second as of 3 months ago?

-We are watching

donniebaseball4659d ago

That was some report that looked strictly at "active" in use PS3s vs 360s. It wasn't a literal figure for installed base.

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TheXgamerLive4659d ago

I love how some idiot takes speculation as post this as fact in the title. loserrrrrr.

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subtenko4658d ago

I feel like Im the only one who doesnt ignore the fact that the xbox360:

1) had a high failure rate, in which people bought multiple consoles

2) release a year ahead

3) Had more sales because of the dropped support of xbox (unlike sony who still supports ps2)

I mean I dont care about the sales..sales are sales, so what? I just care about the content and quality and thats what matters mostly. Knowing that the ps2 is still supported, I can rest assure Sony will continue to cater to the ps3 for a long time too, and Im glad :)

Agree or Disagree if you Agree

SkyGamer4658d ago

Yes but look at this way. How many early adopters of ps3 just used it as blu-ray? Goes both ways.

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zeddy4658d ago

most people buy ps3's for bluray and thats evident in the software sales. mostly everyone who buys a 360 is getting it primarily for gaming. it is annoying when the 360 and ps3 are almost equal in sales yet uncharted only sells just over 3 million. doubt sony mind though atleast they're shifting units.

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xPhearR3dx4659d ago

We heard this last year, the year before that, and the year before that. Give it a rest already, if it happens it happens. If it does, then write about it.

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LaChance4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Did anyone read the article ? Their figures are based on "surveys".

Crap figures for a crap article.

paintsville4659d ago

It's the classic sony defense. but lets forget that ps fans aren't worried about sales, right? Well that is until an article like this shows up. Entire thing based on surveys...do the moderators even read these articles before they approve them? Classic programming..garbage in equals garbage out. I'm only interested in the facts. The way it is now 360 has a much larger world wide installed base and would be even larger if Japan wasn't so opposed to buying imports in general.

DigitalRaptor4659d ago

It's cool that's you're interested in facts and all, but why do you pretend that 360 fans don't do the same things that PS3 guys do. Maybe there are more PS3 supporters on this site, but the whole web is packed with equally biased views from both sides.

And in answer to your point that the 360 has a much larger installed base... much larger? How do you define "much"? ~4 million is a large number but in terms of units sold/shipped/whatever, in business is next to nothing, especially when you compare that the gap was ~8-10 million units when the PS3 launched.

So on that factual basis, the PS3 has been selling faster and better each year than the 360 has and software sales (multiplatform) are no longer much higher on the 360 like they were a few years ago.

You deal in facts, so explain to me how none of that is relevant?

Anyway, I know you probably get sick of seeing these articles, but it's the fault of the media who spread this bull when it suits their agendas. In fact so much of the hate has been spread by media sources and flamebaiting authors.

TyrionL4659d ago

@ Digital
"why do you pretend that 360 fans don't do the same things that PS3 guys do".
Can you show me where he said anything like that anywhere in his comment? I didn’t see where he said anything close to, “Xbots don’t do this”.

I always see you getting so defensive when people call out the Sony fanboys, but I think you imagine a lot of it. He just made a comment about this article, and you swoop in like Captain SDF, and start putting words in his mouth. To be honest it’s unnecessary.
I also want to point out that Sony catching up with MS at the tail end of this generation is not anything to brag about... Unless you’re a Xbox fanboy. Sony has been dethroned after 2 gens of complete domination, anyone that argues that is lying to themselves. If anyone is the king now it’s Nintendo. I guarantee that if anyone was told that the big 3 would be in this position before this gen started, they would have been laughed out of the room.
You are right about this site though, it is over run by the Sony side. This is the site we’re on so there is no reason to bring up other sites. I hate it when people do that.
Guy A : “This is N4PS3G.”
Guy B: “You should have been here 5 years ago, it was a 360 troll heaven”
Guy A: “Why do you PS3 people act like this?”
Guy B: “ Because Ya’ll started it”.
I hate when people blame their actions on someone else.
So because some fanboy douche bag acted like a douche 5 years ago you are going to act that way now? You hated this guy when he did it, yet it doesn’t bother you to act that way.
F%^ing hypocrites.
Oh, and by the way, to me 4 million is a hell of a lot when you consider the giant Sony was. They went from undisputed heavyweight champ, to equal in one gen. No matter which way you flip it, that’s is a huge win for MS, and I don’t mean that like Sony is doing bad. They are both kicking ass, and that can only be good for us as gamers. I bet we would all have hated it if MS would have failed and Sony would have keep the same attitude they had at the start of this gen.

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zerocrossing4659d ago

Maybe not in the US, but it has been for along time in the rest of the world :)

SuperLupe4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Yeah but EU + Japan =/= World. Kind of funny I have to tell that to a Sony fan, how ironic.

@below: sorry dude that sucked. The world = The world NOT EU + Japan only. And USA + EU + Japan (+ any other country) = World = 260 STILL ahed of PS3.

Spin it all you want it wont change anything, I promise :)

spektical4659d ago

yea but SONY outselling 360 comfortably outside the US... kinda funny i have to tell that to a 360 fan, how ironic.

zerocrossing4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

@Lupe I don't get your point EU + Japan have a higher majority of Sony fans in total when compared to MS, Americans are bigger fans of Xbox that's a given considering the company is American and aims to appeal to Americans and that's fine, But if your talking world wide popularity PS3 wins its nothing to cry about and it takes nothing from the 360 fans, Other than those who need to believe the 360 is some kind of almighty god console that wont be out done till xbox 720.

Im not a fanboy I just tell it as it is.

BlackSharinganX4658d ago (Edited 4658d ago )

@Super lupe = super retard? dude he said the rest of the world excluding the US how can you not get that simple sentence lol.

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M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

Lupe, no amount of spinning will change the fact that the PS3 is gaining on the 360. :)

That goes for anyone else making excuses for Microsoft. They had a lead start and yet they can't overtake the Wii *or* beat the PS3 once and for all.

Hilarious.

EDIT?: Just keep spinning, just keep spinning...spin, spin, spin. :)
Are you seriously deluding yourself into believe the PS3 can't overtake the 360? The 360 had a headstart and YET the PS3 sold over 50 million consoles? They can't even overtake the Wii!

Wow. Spin some more.

SuperLupe4659d ago

Yeah dude whatever.

Almost 6 years in and the PS3 is uncapable of overtaking the 360 though Sony sold 220 million consoles in the past as undisputed champion compared to MS's 25 million xbox's and MS is the one who has to make excuses ?

What delusional world do you live in ?

Anyway, I know I just wasted my last bubble responding to such a dump post but hey no biggie lol.

negative4659d ago

Nothin for nothin... but SuperLupe is right. 6 years in and Sony is still playing catch up.

XBOX/XBOX LIVE FTW!!!

maniacmayhem4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

@marshow
Wow, who is being delusional and spinning? because i think you're spinning out of control. I don't care about sales but i do find it funny that the sony brigade year in and year out always praise and chant that the ps3 is catching up to the 360.

It has been 6 years and we still get these articles. And by your logic the ps3 hasn't beat the Wii also, with all its blu-ray, the cell, and excluuuusives. So i wouldnt even go there.

Biggest4659d ago

But it HAS beat the Wii. BluRay and HD streaming beat DVD and SD streaming. The Cell beats whatever the Wii has (Is it the Mega Drive? I forget). I'm pretty sure there are zero people alive that would disagree that the PS3 beats the Wii in all but one subjective category.

MrDead4659d ago

@SuperLupe and blueshirt7749 how can somthing have been playing catch up for six years when its only been on sale for 4.5 years?

DigitalRaptor4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

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Did the PS1 & PS2 sell 100+ million in a day? A year? NO!!!!

PS3 is on track to do the same (or similar) numbers and it hasn't even dropped to $199. Starhawk isn't even out, Uncharted 3 isn't. Resistance 3 isn't. And Versus XIII isn't (will be huge in Japan).

So you think that a console that has already sold 50+ million in 5 years won't have sold close to 100 million in another 5 years? Given Sony's track record?

No-one is saying that the 360 hasn't sold HUGE numbers. They are saying that when all is considered, Sony are not that far behind, and looking at how they chopped the lead down by over 5 million since launch, by the time another 5 years has passed, is it so hard to believe that they will no longer hold that lead?

Some will say that by that time is would be too late, but then what the heck is point in counting numbers in the first place if any sort of lead doesn't count?

Just think about what you're saying.

rob-E4659d ago

@ SuperLupe

Almost 6 years? Really? I could have sworn the PS3 was released in November of 2006. That would make it less than 5 years in, certainly not "almost 6 years".

Snakefist304658d ago (Edited 4658d ago )

@SuperLupe Next Gen it will be Microsoft who will be playing catch up.Maybe they will end at 3rd next gen!

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hiredhelp4658d ago

Units. Lol that a lame joke?

Passing of 360 for the past couple years is right. For get the units the EXCLUSIVES
Some ppl need to engaged there brain think what they buy there systems for.

Plus not everybody needs to rebuy a new system every year. Maybe just maybe reason why sony hasn been in leed isnt cos not selling but there consoles havent played up half as much. So why need to pay for one unless for another reason.

See way i see it ms finally got off there as@ and actually acknowledged there was a fault. But took them 2 years to do something solid about it. That was the elite.
Then when ps3 launched ppl didnt get breakdowns till at least about 2 year into it for some that is. That was from everyday use. Unlike my old white 360's 6 consoles but cos no ps3 we bought another console 360.

At least when the phats did get ylod. They didnt blame consumer or try defend it. They went back did a redesign.

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JellyJelly4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

I thought it was based on statistical numbers but turned out it's just analysts speculating. Not that anyone in here will know the difference...

donniebaseball4659d ago

The 10% is based on numbers. Sony has been tracking ahead of Microsoft by 10% in console sales globally in 2011. Sony is catching up despite big momentum in North America for 360.

Kurylo3d4658d ago

no the 10% is not based on numbers... u should really site your sources before you talk out of your butt.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 6h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle17h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188114h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio14h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga16h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv722h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218315h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga14h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan10h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10119h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos19h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-8h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac18h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10117h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic15h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 15h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken1d 2h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 11h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 11h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 11h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 7h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 10h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 10h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere2d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN2d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 21h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 14h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 16h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 12h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger2d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 10h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 9h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger6h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto2d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos2d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 22h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator2d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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