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PS3 hacker reveals Sony’s three step “epic save” fix

Gamer.Blorge writes, "A notorious PS3 hacker has commented on Sony’s latest firmware update to fix the piracy issue on the console. Apparently the company has a broad overarching strategy that may be an “epic save.”"

Gamer.Blorge writes, "KaKaRoToKS recently tweeted that he believes Sony is implementing a fool-proof three step solution which should completely fix the exploit discovered by the hackers."

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Nitrowolf24824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

and they said it could never be fixed
unhackable? nothing is, but i bet it will be some time now before they can actually hack the FW again. They still haven't done it with 3.56 and that's been out for some time now.

so where are all those people who said Sony can't patch this up because it would render all past games useless?

I agree with KaKaRoToKS statement, people (Hackers) should be fine with what they have. No reason for them to be online ruining the community.

MintBerryCrunch4824d ago

the problem is that the patches that they have implemented so far since 3.55 should have been done when the console launched....to have such a huge security flaw only took away from making ACTUAL firmware updates that bring new features to the console, instead of security patch after security patch

insomnium24823d ago

Well we did get cloud savings just now didn't we?

ksense4823d ago

god I still remember those days when so many people were laughing at Sony and kept taunting that they can't do anything about it and that it cannot be fixed via software update and needs a hardware revision and they should start looking to bring the next console lol. This should be a slap in their faces lol

FailOverFail4823d ago

Well you need to remember the only way they broke the PS3 is because they stole a key to "open up the system". So Sony couldn't have anticipated this that far back. They have a track record of what, 4-5 years of the PS3 being completely secure? Then suddenly someone is reported to have stolen a certain "key to the PS3" of sorts and the PS3 is hacked.

And I'm not going to lie, after playing some PS3 games online, I'd much rather get this problem out of the way first before they add any new features. But look, Sony went above and beyond and gave us Cloud Saving when they could have just pumped out a security FW update instead.

Btw, if you had a brain you would know to blame the hackers for Sony having to push these updates. If they avoided hacking the PS3, we wouldn't need them.

sikbeta4823d ago

@Mint

The important thing is that Sony could fix this, also there goes the hackers with their arrogant attitude like that failoverflow group talking about fail and flaws and how Sony would never be able to fix this and stuff, but they couldn't go far into hacking by their own "merits", if the root-key or whatever wasn't stolen in first place, they sure would be trying with no success :P

MaxXAttaxX4823d ago

These people need to get a life.

Istanbull4823d ago

GLORY TO SONY, GLORY TO HELGHAST, DEATH TO THE ISA!

rbrtchng4823d ago

Yeah MintBerryCrunch! Every single piece of technology should be released absolutely hack-proof. Sony's stupid for creating the ONLY piece of tech that was hack-able.

/sarcasm

KillerBBs4823d ago

Hey! I didn't give you permission to use my kids photo.

DAS6924823d ago

Let's not forget... it took hackers all the way until 3.55 to get it right, and the system is well above maturing now... so it's not like it's something they knew about the whole time... thus the term "patch".

Amplitude4823d ago

*reads MintBerryCrunch's comment"
*Sigh*

*reads KillerBBs comment*
lol. damn that was unfunny xD
*Closes browser*

Lawliet4823d ago

Believe it or not failoverflow or geohot probably ain't the first to discover the exploit. I certainly believe that there are other groups already successfully cracked the PS3 way before them, but just like every professional hackers they just want to sharpen up their skills not start up a damage control or a fame whore. IF you truly call yourself a black hat you should have know the first oath! Never reveals urself in public!

failoverflow and geohot might have an extend of technically knowledge, but they lack common sense.. Revealing themselves through youtube, posting their conference and lame raps saying WE HACK THIS NOW WHAT YOU GONNA DO?! Think about it in first place they hacked it simply for a lame excuse cause they want their OtherOS back, like wut?! They are just bunch of childish brats.. These people won't go far..

JackBNimble4823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

Let's just hope that what KaKaRotoks says has some merit....I've had enough of these so called hackers and all the BullShit they've caused.

what's the point anyway in hacking/cracking the ps3 when you can do so much more on a pc?

OneSneakyMofo4822d ago

Just like the 360 was so secure at the beginning of their console launch... oh wait.

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Tony-Red-Grave4823d ago

what i love is how when sony gave them the option of either updating their ps3s or staying a FW back without the ability to access psn they strted trying to hack it but now they have that same option and their scared. all this could've been avoided in fact they contridict the reason to have even hacked the ps3 at all.

think about it they wantd OS they could've kept and ran homebrew there and have been in the same situation as now only less suing because with this sony has f'd them up.

rbrtchng4823d ago

I agree. If hackers really weren't trying to pirate and just wanted to homebrew and people actually only wanted that, then they would've have tried to exploit the OtherOS for piracy, and the OtherOS would be an awesome feature with tons of homebrew features, and these hackers would still be able to play on the PSN.

Tony-Red-Grave4823d ago

in case no oine understood what i ment il clear it up abit :)

if we look back at when sony removed OS they had given users two options: keep OS but lose the ability to go play on psn or update and lose OS but in return you can game online. well if hackers hadn't tried to hack the ps3 the users who bought a jailbreak wouldn't need one instead they'd be running their games off OS like originally intended.

now if we look back a few articles they said, failoverflow as well, they didn't care about online gaming they only wanted homebrew and OS when they could've just not updated and kept both without having any problems what so ever with sony. no instead they hacked the ps3 released the jailbreaks got sued for it got fined, im prety sure they didnt release OS, got noobs on psn ruining everyones online experince and pirated games.

oh aside from that they tried to hack themselves back onto psn and would've used a brand new ps3s console ID to do it. as youu guys see they onlyu did what they did for the same reason geohot did, mind you he took most of the credit in the end, their all attentiom whores.

SoapShoes4823d ago

If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable. ;)

miyamoto4823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

so you mean any hack can be hacked also?

Hackers vs. Hackers

wow this world is going to be pretty set for Hacked Life!

tacosRcool4823d ago

hacking on a console ruins the experience for all, including those who have nothing to do with it

Electroshocked4822d ago

LG and now this, looks like Sony is having a great year so far.

SephireX4822d ago

@FailOverFlow
Take off your fanboy goggles and think. Sony made it possible for the root key to be extracted by the softweare they included in the PS3 at launch. That being the OtherOs feature. The key was not stolen. It was found. Hackers are going to hack and take advantage of loop holes. Thus, it is Sony's fault that the PS3 was hacked. They shouldn't have included the OtherOs feature in the first place but they did and have paid the price. A lot of people will stay offline and pirate costing devs money. That wouldn't be the case if Sony didn't include OtherOS. Its as simple as that.

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OGharryjoysticks4823d ago

So if it's fixed what does this mean for Geohot since his hack is no longer aplicable?

theonlylolking4823d ago

It has already happened so it still counts.

RedDevils4823d ago

so if he won, or if he free to go, the hacker scene will be back to square one lol

TABSF4823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

Very good for Sony.

One thing is for sure though, no software ever written is 100% secure.

And why are the mentioning piracy, these people cracked PS3 for running Apps and experimentation (Jailbreak) not gaming.

These guys probably have kickass PCs, why would they want or need to play PS3 games.

@ kesense

Well there is over 20 Million PS3s that are on version 3.55 or earlier.
Also Sony has implemented a hardware measure for extra protection, why wouldn't they.

Mmmkay4823d ago

20 million ? who's ass did you pull that out from?

TABSF4823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

Fail0verflow's ass :)

Don't go there its gets really messy... :/

dead_eye4822d ago

The article mentions piracy. It says the first CF ever released was to copy games.
"KakARoToKS is a notorious PS3 hacker known for releasing the first custom firmware after the console was hacked. The custom firmware allowed others to pirate games on the console, which has become an uphill cat and mouse chase between Sony and the hackers."

No OtherOS just piacy.

Istanbull4822d ago

how the f*ck do u know there are 20 million PS3s on 3.55 or earlier?

If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable.

littlebigmarcpsps34823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

LOL
yet after 2 weeks
people will crack it
its not 100% secure this is just for 3 or 4 weeks
PS3 fanboys here can kiss SONY ass all they want

jut4204823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

Right because the main hacker on the scene just said Sony secured it and he is not going to try to hack this

Mmmkay4823d ago

why is 3.56 still not hacked ? it's been more than 2 weeks... ? effing troll!

RedDevils4823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

@Mmmkay because the 3.56 is the same shit as the 3.55, it's basically useless, unless they can't find a way to hack the 3.60 they will probably hack the 3.56 in about a month from now

annus4823d ago

@Mmmkay

Why would they hack it? What new feature did it add? Oh that's right, nothing.

There were ways to bypass shit and connect to PSN with 3.55, so it was pointless updating to the newer firmware that did nothing.

awesomeperson4823d ago

Can I ask...

Why do you WANT the PS3 to be hacked? Do you pirate or simply a fanboy?

Its better for all of us if these hackers GTFO even if they claim its for homebrew of course people will use it to hack, cheat and make other people miserable (MW2) and of course pirate games.

Not to mention Sony has to pour money into fixing hacks which could be used for other things.

buckley4823d ago

3.56 has already existed for more than 2 weeks, my friend, and is not hacked.

The PS3 existed for 4-5 completely hack-less until the "key" was stolen.

No "key," no hack. Apparently they've managed to build a pretty darn secure console.

Orionsangel4823d ago

Yeah well you can kiss hacker ass all you want. This isn't about kissing the ass of any particular company. It's about being able to play games on a secure service without having these asshole hackers fucking around with it. Such as cheating in COD and getting free trophies and banning who ever they want. Mess with the console all you want, but lay off the service!

SSKILLZ4823d ago

Wow wow wow ! Who let you out of the cage.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai23h ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander197214h ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

-Foxtrot13h ago

@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander197214h ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 8h ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz13h ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay12h ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers29d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken29d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g29d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing29d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H929d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola29d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66929d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle29d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg30d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos30d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola29d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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