Microsoft to offer Xbox One trade-up program for Project Scorpio

With 6TFLOPs of performance and a new semi-custom Polaris + Zen AMD SoC to enable 4K gaming. Luckily Microsoft wants to offer an Xbox One trade-in program to shave off some of the cost and make Project Scorpio more accessible.

[Thatguy-310]

That's good to know since I'm more than positive that scorpio won't be cheap. Hopefully Sony does something similar.

[PFFT]

Yeah here is hoping Sony does something similar as well. If they do ill be trading in my Ps4 and XB1 towards the NEO. And ill just pick up the Scorpio once it releases with money.

[UltimateMaster]

This is huge and a great step for Microsoft.
Sony should look into it as well.
It all depends on how much they give for your console.

[VforVideogames]

Great idea ill be trading my Ps4 and XB1 towards the SCORPIO. And ill just pick up the Neo once it releases with money.

[Ceaser9857361]

I will be selling off both the xbox one and the ps4 and get the Neo and Scorpio/PC later... i may even get the Xbox Slim version too ...

[Unspoken]

Too bad Sony doesn't offer great programs likes this. If I was a Sony fanboy I'd post in an Xbox article begging them to follow MS.

MS once again giving gamers options.

[butchertroll]

People should consider that Xbone S won't worth much then. 150$ AT MAX. trade-in price for Xbone S when Scorpio goes out. Can't imagine that retailers will offer more than that. And also i expect that Scorpio will cost somewhere between 450-550$.

Well, that's a peanuts. Probably better than nothing.

[Kokyu]

You're way lose unless MS is eatting most of the cost.

[MachuchalBrotha316]

It probably will depend on what model you have, obviously with the 2tb model probably getting you around $200 in trade in.

[sampson3121]

more like 600-700$

[vallencer]

Microsoft offers really good trade deals at their stores typically for upgrades. They had great 360 to one upgrade deals. Pretty sure that's where the good deals will be.

[butchertroll]

People should be aware of this :

Right now vanilla 500GB Xbox One console gets you $100 in GameStop store credit, or $80 cash.

Don't expect then 150$ for Xbone S next year.

[Ripsta7th]

Trade in prices is different
when ps4 trade in deal was going on , you could get $150 for ps3
same with the Xbox one

[noksucow73]

Yep. I'll just keep my xbox1 and maybe put it in another room. Gamestop won't give u much at all. Can't even buy 2 retail games for what they wanna give u. I Can imagine it will Be Worth way less when Scorpio releases

[conanlifts]

If ms offer a trade deal i would assume this is in addition to the trade price offered by ebgames/gamestop. It might be that you get $100- $150 for the xbox from ebgames/gamestop but ms then offer $50 Cashback via redemption or 2 bonus games etc.

[merciless]

This is what I'm thinking. Right now, considering that I bought the XB1 at launch for $500, trade in prices are awfully low. BB offered me $90 for my launch system so late next year it'll probably be worth $50.

So I'm wondering exactly how much this trade in program will be worth? Will they jack up the price and essentially give me extra money to upgrade?

[MASTER_RAIDEN]

I'll be trading in my xb1 and ps4 for a NEO and then buy the SCORPIO with money. Then I'll trade the NEO and SCORPIO in for money and buy myself a sega Saturn

With money.

[christocolus]

Nice. I just want the data transfer process between my original Xbox one and Scorpio to be as seamless as possible. my 4TB external hard drive should be compatible too.

[turdburgler1080]

Shouldn't be a problem. Just login to the new console and make it your primary and plug in your external and presto.

[rainslacker]

If it's anything like how Windows now does profile and data transfer between computers on a single live account, then I think it should be pretty smooth. It's nice being able to log onto another computer and having all your stuff there if you need it, as well as all your preferences and bookmarks and things like that.

Downloading a lot of data for games will obviously take a bit of time though, but that's just the nature of the beast.

[ScorpiusX]

Should be seamless for all 3 not just S to Scorpio but Xbox one to Xbox One S to Scorpio .

[Gazondaily]

Nice one.

[PimpDaddy]

How did 1/3 of your total votes end in "down" votes? I think this is a great idea. I'm going to do it.

[remixx116]

Some people don't like positive xbox news...

[Rude-ro]

Septic usually creates all sorts of fan wars by creating click bait biased opinion pieces. Welcome to n4g

OT it is not great news. They want to move on as fast as possible thinking power is what is going to get them back in the market.
Especially that game stores always do a trade in program every time a console releases. This is not new or news. It will not be any better of a deal that has transpired over the last few cycles.

[vega275]

That's great news. Still.debating on getting a xbox s for the 4k player.

[hadowajp]

If you have a 4k tv and want a 4k Blu-ray it's a wise decision

[Maybay]

This is Microsoft learning from their past misdeeds.

[TheCommentator]

No, this has been a practice for as long as there have been chains to trade in consoles. The big 3 have all worked with these retail partners at various times to offer trade in incentives towards an upgrade.

[Death]

@May,

Microsoft did the same for the Xbox One with 360 trades. What past mistakes are you referring to?

[Maybay]

They learned to be more consumer friendly.

[MachuchalBrotha316]

@maybay, agreed MS has come a long long way. Is it sad if I say that their customer support is one of my favorite right now of any company.. It wasnt always like that before.

[Sm00thNinja]

This is fantastic ill pick up an Xbox One S in August and trade the original for the Scorpio

[CBaoth]

my bad misunderstood you. I'm not gonna buy the S, but just like you, this might get me to trade up the bone for Scorpio when it drops. Let's hope we get $150 for the kinect launch model and Scorpio launches a 2 TB model for $599

[Sm00thNinja]

Id love for them to stay safe and launch at 499 but well see

[ScorpiusX]

How about a Scorpio w/ a 3 TB Solid State Hybrid Drive now that I would gladly pay 600-700 for .

[Duke19]

Was hoping they would do something like this - fantastic news!

[ShadowKnight]

Since the Scorpio don't release until fall 2017 it's a good time for people to invest in a 4K television to take advantage of the 4K blu ray player, resolution, and content and be ready for the Scorpio when it releases.

[seanpitt23]

I don't think many titles will be 4k I think they will use the more powerful resources on framerate awesome graphics and have 2k instead especially open world games. 4k just takes to much power up and other things need to be sacrificed.

[ShadowKnight]

Yeah your probably right but by late 2017 to early 2018 mostly everything will be in 4K like tv content, streaming content, 4k blu ray movies, PC games and new 4K GPUs and more. Technology advances so fast now.

[iistuii]

@ shadow
I dont know where you live, but here in the UK were lucky to get 720p 1080i on our digital Virgin/sky. 4K standard is miles away still, they don't even do 1080p after all these years of owning a HD tv.

[ShadowKnight]

I live in the US

[TheCommentator]

A 4K TV is the only way to experience HDR, and XB1S and Scorpio both support 4K upscaling as well. There's merit to Shadow Knights post beyond that of resolution alone.

[MachuchalBrotha316]

@shadow, I live in US and not all content is 1080p. They need to master that first. And I agree the industry is always playing catch up.

[rainslacker]

I wouldn't say that. Outside of the Scorpio releasing next year, there is still next to no content available for 4K TV's, and the content that is available is quite costly to play. Streaming services are OK, but require a fairly beefy connection, and that content is limited as well. At most, right now, you get the wow factor of a 4K TV, but not much else...although 4K TV's do tend to have nicer pictures than mid to low range 1080 sets.

If someone were in the market for a new TV, and seriously considering getting a new TV, or is currently looking, then sure, go with 4K if you have the means, but it'd be better to just wait another year if one is doing this for the Scorpio, because by then, the sets will be cheaper, and hopefully all this 4K format war will be ironed out.

In any case, I'm still dubious on if most devs will utilize 4K native games, but HDR will make quite a difference. A 1080 set may still be perfectly acceptable come next year, and with TV's, the longer you can hold off buying one, the cheaper it becomes to get nicer sets.

At the very least, if someone is looking for a TV, I seriously recommend looking at what is needed for HDR, and the competing formats to make sure one actually gets a TV that is not already outdated. There are still some non-HDR 4K TV's on the market right now, so buyer beware.

That being said, I wouldn't expect TV content to be 4K by 2018. There is not enough bandwidth for the cable or broadcast providers to offer it up as a mainstream option. At best, you may get a couple channels on the premium services. Even now, half the stations in the US don't even do 1080, and if they are HD, they do 720. The 1080 channels tend to be the bigger networks, the premium channels, and the subscription sports channels. The rest is standard broadcast definition.

Streaming content falls into the same problem as the broadcast providers. Pushing massive amounts of 4K content is going to eat away too much bandwidth, and the projected 4K adoption by the end of next year is still less than 15%. While there is a market for 4K, it's not big enough yet to really go mainstream. There will be more content and options, but most of it won't be really good quality 4K. We should see a lot more 4K BRUHD movies by then though. As of right now, there is still a format war, and studios are kind of weary about diving in.

PC games will probably see more 4K adoption though.

[nirwanda]

And streaming at 4k they heavily compress everything so the bit rate ends up far below what 4k should be.

[nirwanda]

I'd wait as long as possible, save up and buy both at the same time, currently scaling normal 1080p stuff still looks rough around the edges to me.
And there is always the possibility of a change of standard to support over 30fps.

[GusBricker]

I hope I can keep my Elite controller or I guess I gonna have to buy another one just to trade my old elite system in.

[poppinslops]

Scorpio is being marketed as a console for hardcore gamers, so I'd expect it to ship with an Elite controller as standard... at the very least, I'd expect a 'Scorpio Elite bundle', with a better hard-drive and such.

[Kingdomcome247]

They've already stated that all accessories will be compatible moving forward.

[Movefasta1993]

Why are people disagreeing?How is this not nice?Wouldn't you want Sony to do the same thing with the Neo?

[Maybay]

Some people *coughextremefanboyscough* hate anything positive that doesn't reflect their gaming company of choice. By Microsoft doing this; it forces Sony hand, so they have to follow suit.

#4theplayers, remember?

[poppinslops]

I dunno - the PS4's higher sales means Sony have twice as many potential trade-ins to subsidise... I know they're no longer on the verge of bankruptcy, but can they actually afford to do that?

[BiggerBoss]

Because it's 3 years into this gen and you guys are already excited about trading in your Xbox ones for a new console.

Same goes for Neo, I think this "mid gen upgrade" thing is a crock

[dms5223]

Technically, it will be 4 years when the Scorpio launches. I think we are just used to the really long cycle we had with PS3 and 360.

[MachuchalBrotha316]

And whats wrong with that? You don't have to upgrade to any of the new consoles if you don't want. Let the ones that don't mind get excited. I know I am...

[Trekster_Gamer]

It's nice to have the option but I am already saving up for XBS! I'll keep my XB1.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I was gonna do that anyway... (trade in my Halo 5 XB1) to get Scorpio

[Corpser]

Useless without details, what's the trade in value? $50?

[christocolus]

Why would they give specifics now when they haven't even fixed the price for Scorpio?

[Bzone24]

I got $150 trade in on my Xbox 360 to get a Xbox One. I'd think it will be at least that.

[cfc83]

Interesting indeed. I imagine i'll keep mine though.

[Moe-Gunz]

Here is the quote:

We want to make that transition as smooth as possible," Xbox Services manager Dave McCarthy told the Daily Star. "Some of our retail partners today do trade-in programs and that's definitely going to be partnerships we continue to move going forward. We'll try partnerships with our retail partners to smooth it even more with trade-in programs and things like that."

Edit: Most will take my comment as anti-microsoft when that's not my intention. So I'll just post the quote from the article.

[Kokyu]

They need it to get people to swallow the likely 600-700$ price tag.

[Pancit_Canton]

This is new?

Gamestop has been doing this for years.

I think it's even better, if just sell your console online like ebay or craigslist and get more buck out of your old console.

I'm sure their trade-up programs will just scam people up and give them $100 for your $500 console.

[Moe-Gunz]

Pretty much what I was saying.

[rainslacker]

This is more about MS subsidizing the trade in with the retailers, so the retailers will, in theory, give you more for your trade in. It's supposed to marginalize the lowered trade in cost, to make it more attractive to trade up to the new console, and to make people trade sooner rather than later. If one doesn't partake in a subsidized trade in deal, then they will get less for it at a later date, and likely, at that later date, you still wouldn't get much more for it by selling it on your own.

Ebay for instance, will take 7% of the sale off the top, and then depending on how it's listed, you may have to pay $20 in shipping fees. Could be less if you sell regularly on Ebay, but the vast majority of people do not receive those perks.

So it comes down to luck on if someone will get substantially more by selling it on their own. When I've done the math on games and systems, I would only make maybe 5-10% doing it myself in most instances of games, and the consoles themselves tended to be maybe $10-15 more than GS would give me. With GameStop, you don't have the hassle involved.

[Aenea]

Their source is the Daily Star? Might want to wait on something more official. If they do tho it's mighty nice.

Also, did anyone spot some serious weird shit in the list of the Scorpio specs? Nothing is confirmed about it, they even mention 6 Tflops AND 10 Tflops, not sure where that came from, also the "5 times more powerful than the Neo" seems odd and what is all the different mentions of "new 4kXbox" "next-gen Xbox Scorpio", etc. Is confusing as all heck. The Scorpio is not next gen or are they talking about Xbox Scorpio 2?

[butchertroll]

10 TFLOPS is DEBUNKED rumor for good. It's more than Nvidia 1080 GTX which is 650-700$ card. LOL!

[CR7JUVE1897]

If this is true, count me in

[senorfartcushion]

Why not just make a sequel in 2018 instead? Much easier.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Interesting ....curious to see how and what that offer will look like.

[ziggurcat]

This is very good news.

[CoryHG]

The best I can do is $2.50

[its_JEFF]

Great move! Let's hope that Sony does this as well. Although you've technically had this option since GameStop has been buying older consoles. I'm pretty sure I sold my PS2 to get a PS3. And I know for a fact that you could trade in your PS3 for a discount on Xbox One, or something like that, even the Microsoft store had a similar promotion. Good news all around, anything that can save me a little dough I'm okay with!

[rainslacker]

If one has an OGX1 or X1S, then I don't see why it's worth keeping since the games can play on the Scorpio. Some people might want to for whatever reason, but if people primarily play in one room of the house....which is pretty common, then I'd say just trade it in, or sell it if you can get more. Otherwise, I'd give it to a relative or something if they were itching to have one. If not, then yeah, I'd save some money. Use it to get a few games or something.

[its_JEFF]

My thoughts exactly, trade it in! But some people like to keep their old consoles, collect them. Which is something I should have done with my Dreamcast, I should have never traded that thin in!

[sackboyhappy]

will they (microsoft or sony) give us what it's worth to sell tho

[iliimaster]

i like this news but as of right now only 100 credit ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????

[XanderZane]

I'm all for a trade, especially if I can just transfer everything from one drive to the other. But how will I do this if I have to trade in my system?

[masterfox]

soooo MS can you tell me again why should I buy an xbox one slim ?

[kazRium]

Good on MS for doing this, I will probably still sell my XB1 on ebay, unless they have a special deal for getting more on the trade in when it goes towards the scorpio.

[SouljAx360]

Great move by Microsoft, hope Sony does the same.

[ScorpiusX]

Sound nice but am only trading a One for a Xbox one S while keeping the other and buying Scorpio out right . Its a nice incentive for those looking to cut out of pocket cash .

[Gwiz]

While trading in is not bad,i do wonder what message this will send towards developers?.
Sure you have the X1 and X1S and Scorpio in the works but that seems to be a rather fragmented
way of offering to trade up and yet saying " no one will be left behind ".
Now however also saying we will fase out the Xbox One with the Xbox One S,so in essence you'll be left behind.
Not buying a 4K TV?then having a Xbox One (OG) will not be part of future plans.To me it's rather a mess.

The same goes for the other company (before you start i didn't mention it because of that)

[Drdeadlocke]

I hope they have a similar trade in program for the Xbox one s

[noksucow73]

Wonder how many teraflops my Saturn can do? 0.0000005? Still fun as hell!!!!

[bean59]

Trade-in programs from big companies typically low ball their customers. I have a feeling people would still make more money selling privately on ebay or kijiji.

[InTheZoneAC]

scorpio only $599.99, trade in your x1 for $99 credit and pay only $500!!!!

[itsmebryan]

Man, my day one Xbox one just died. Do I buy a used XBOX one and wait for Scorpio or wait a another month and get the Xbox one s and then get the Scorpio? Would it be a waste to buy a new X1s when I plan to get the scorpio next year? Thanks for the input.

[poppinslops]

Try Microsoft's Service & Repair centre... My year 1 (Titanfall bundle) XO's disc-drive just crapped out and they agreed to fix it, regardless of it's expired warranty - free postage as well!

[Wotbot]

Now MS are doing the right thing with this offer. I will definitely trade in my Xbox one.

[sampson3121]

a naughty dog game on the neo will look like it's running 10 tfps

[EpicSandwich]

Lol facepalm!

[arbi]

If they target Scorpio at 399$ or 499$ and combine that with a programm that reward you at least -150$ for bringing your original xbox it will be a very good deal!

Also this could work and favor both sides beacuse if MS will do a trade in then they will propably force Sony to do the same for PS4 and Neo.

Win win situation for everyone! :)

[Phoenix76]

Don't know if you read the article, but they say that "they" estimate it will be around $599. But that's their estimate, we have now sure way of knowing if that will be the asking price once it's been released. I'm actually expecting it to be around $599-$699 (£500-£600) before any trade in offers. If it's at that kind of price, then would be better to wait 6 for price drops

[noxeven]

Screw that. I'm not trading in my system for chump change. The price would have be set by microsoft but you watch its gonna be like gamestop rip off values.

[Errorist76]

All this Ugga Ugga 1,5 years before release seems really desperate.

[fllysurfer]

Has Sony ever done this before? I cant say for sure but I would think not. However, the fact that Microsoft is offering this it might force their hand to… here´s to hoping.

[Keltech]

No, Sony has never done this. Because they support their console for 10yrs and bring out a new console every 6-7yrs. Games take a while to be made. Sony doesn't press the "eject" button and introduce a new console 4yrs into the life cycle for the sake of being in lead.

[Kiwi66]

Then what is the Neo for then as isn't that pretty much a new console ? only 3 years in

[Yukonsbud]

Can't wait to have a Scorpio instead of this potato box

[LgbtWarrior]

Now that's awesome. MS is finally getting it.

[mochachino]

MS is really fighting to win back customers.

[ARESWARLORD]

I'm leaning towards just selling my Xbox One Elite right now keeping the elite controller packaging with a regular controller and keeping the money until the Scorpio launches next year I'm thinking that's the way I would get the most for it and I'll just play the PS4 for the next year exclusively what do u guys think