Sorcery shows why 'Move is better than Kinect and Wii', says Sony

PlayStation Move exclusive Sorcery is a title that will demonstrate why Sony's motion control offering is superior to rivals Kinect and Wii, according to Brian Upton, creative director on the game at Sony Santa Monica.

[Dante112]

Gotta agree after I saw and read previews of the Star War Kinect game. Almost all of the gaming sites said that it's not as accurate as it needs to be and that it's on rails. Sorcery looks to atleast be somewhat competent as far as accuracy and movement.

[Hisiru]

There is nothing better than 1:1 on motion controllers.

Move and Wii Motion Plus are both 1:1, sony's statemant is basically marketing, but I really want to play this game.

[t0mmyb0y]

2:1 ?

[SuperM]

Wii motion plus is not exactly 1:1. It does not measure its exact position in 3D space while the playstation move does.

[Hisiru]

@SuperM
No, Wii motion isn't 1:1, but Wii motion PLUS is 1:1
http://gizmodo.com/5326510/...
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
http://www.amazon.com/Wii-M...

Yes, there is no difference between Move and Motion Plus as far as sensibility goes.

[FunAndGun]

@Hisiru

These quotes were taken from your Gizmodo link:

"It is definitely fun, but it's not exactly 1:1"

"Now tennis I do know, and Sega's implementation definitely is not 1:1."

"It is fun, but it's definitely not 1:1."

"the fact that this isn't quite 1:1 makes the process more frustrating."

"If I had to put a number on it, I'd say this was 80% of the way there to delivering true 1:1 motion detection in the hardware."

Sorry, but Wii Motion Plus could not pull off a game like Tumble or The Fight and is NOT 1:1.

[Boody-Bandit]

Why is move better than Kinect and the Wii mote? Because it's accurate and can be used with more than shovel ware and games on rails? Yeah, maybe that's why. I mean seriously. The other two don't compete. Move works with main stream and hardcore games because of how accurate it is and easily it's implemented.

The other two only sell because of smoke and mirrors marketing.

Edit: awe poor baby disagrees, don't let the truth leave you twisted. Facts are facts. Move works and the others are fluff and stuff.

[baodeus]

@Brutallyhonest

then why don't the "hardcore" support move then comparing to the Wii and the Kinect?

[kaveti6616]

"Why is move better than Kinect and the Wii mote? Because it's accurate and can be used with more than shovel ware and games on rails?"

MOVE offers no compelling gaming experiences in my opinion. After months of reading comments about how "amazing" MOVE was with Killzone 3, I had the opportunity to try it out at a demo kiosk.

Every technical statement that has been made about MOVE is true. It is accurate, it is 1 to 1.

But all the impressions people share on this site are overblown slobberfests.

I hate it when people talk about it like it's a mindblowing thing. It's not. It doesn't really add anything to the experience that isn't forgotten five minutes into playing.

As always, the most important thing about the gaming experience is the game itself, and the only way MOVE could be a compelling purchase is if great games with great stories and great characters that changed the landscape of the gaming industry were made exclusively for the MOVE controllers. And so far, no such game has been released that has done that. And Sorcery isn't going to do that.

It's a 6 hour game so I doubt the story is going to be anything special.

I'm not saying that Kinect or the Wii's Motion Plus are better candidates, just that MOVE isn't a mandatory purchase for gaming.

[Dasteru]

@Hisiru: Try reading your own reference.

Final verdict from http://gizmodo.com/5326510/...

"The hardware is a big step forward, but it's not the end of the road. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say this was 80% of the way there to delivering true 1:1 motion detection in the hardware"

I have one of the newer Wii motes with the motion plus built in and i have PS Move also and i can tell you right now there is a difference.

The Wii motion plus only estimates movements with gyroscopes and an accelerometer, It is basically emulating 1:1 rather than being true 1:1. PS Move uses the Playstation eye camera as well as the gyros and accelerometer to accurately determine depth and position of the controller in a 3D space.

Try swinging both of them fast but over short distances and see for your self, The Wii Mote will think the controller moved alot further than it actually did just because of the way the accelerometer detects speed. PS Move will go the proper distance and speed with minimal exaggeration.

[joeorc]

There is no difference between Move and Motion Plus as far as sensibility goes.

is not correct, you are missing one advantage that the Move has over Motion Plus.

what you are trying to claim is they are the same which is quite false:

for instance the Wii motion plus has The device incorporates a dual-axis

Tuning fork gyroscope
This type of gyroscope uses a pair of test masses which are driven to resonance. Their displacement from the plane of oscillation is then measured to produce a signal related to the system's rate of rotation.Tuning fork gyroscope

while the Playstation Move uses An internal magnetometer combined with a six axis gyroscope combined with the playstation eye to pinpoint it's location in a 3d field of space due to the magnetometer an gyroscope that combined with color location to offset against the Earth's magnetic field to help correct against cumulative error (drift) by the inertial sensors.

something of which the Wii motion plus cannot do anywhere near as well as the playstation Move.

the idea they are the same in 1:1 is not 100% accurate

[RedDead]

This game looks so average though, it's only getting attention because it's made for Move and works for move. It looks like Orcs must die except instead of aiming your self it has auto aim.

I woulda like something like Ryse for the move. Because again the movement would be precise, you could move around the map yourself and it wouldn't be scripted. Unlike Kinect that game woulda flourished on move.

Imagine having a First person Sword and shield game like Demons souls except well..ya know real sword and shield combat. Although it's still a bit hard to do really isn't it? You're not going to parry things

[MaxXAttaxX]

It's pretty functional for core games and not just mini-games and gimmicks.
And it's optional, not forced.

The competition can't do all that.
____

@kaveti6616,

You may not find it "mindblowing", but these are the facts.

[sikbeta]

People don't care about what works better, Apple products are not the best at all, but sell the most, people just follow the trends and the popular s*** of the moment, MS spent well their money advertising Kinect to hell and back, now they're getting the sales, Sony didn't gave a s*** about advertising Move and the thing is not selling as well as MS's add-on...

[kikizoo]

Poor desperate kaveti and others fanboyz, always trying to downplay things they just don't have, or just don't understand...

no need for sorcery to know that move is a better motion controler, every single gamer who has played with table tennis knows how much the device is fantastic...sure you can play game without it (you can also live without games you know), but for aiming experiences, or sport (table tennis, etc) it's a must have, even if we don't have tons of games to play with..

that kind of stupid statement "sorcecy show why move is..." (even if it's true) is like xfanboyz saying in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010..and even 2012 "this game is a good reason to buy a ps3" when real gamers know that you have 1000 reason to buy one ;)

[Dee_91]

woah shots fired.

had no clue sony was one person tho.....

[Muffins1223]

I just use my kinect for pausing movies and voice commands to look cool -_-

[Machioto]

Like I said they are just high lighting quotes,the lines are from an interview that mr.Upton did with a site called industrygamer that's 105 days old and if anyone clicks on sorcery in the bracket it's on the second page with a similar title.

[ritsuka666]

Move is an unnecessary gimmick and Sony done trying to ram it down everybody's throat." Non-gamers love this crap. I don't care how many they sells for casual gamers Sony,Move is a terrible idea, deal whit it.

[Consoldtobots]

that's it folks, lets pack up and go home.
ritsuka666 has spoken and now we have nothing left. We must just deal with it.

lmao..................

[Imalwaysright]

I agree that move is an unnecessary gimmick but to say that Sony is trying to shove their gimmick down our throats is absolute and utter bullshit.

Unlike MS, Sony has more than 1 exclusive that doesnt require the move planned to be released ( If MS hadnt spent 500 million marketing kinect they probably would have more) and unlike Nintendo move isnt the standard contrller for their console.

[_Aarix_]

Are you kidding? I want the move and its not trying to sway me like kinect. I had the money and walked in and I gave in and bough twisted metal instead. Now i hath to wait a while but the game is so awesome.

[Titanz]

They both offer advantages of the other.

And:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I'm "not implying that the motion plus is the better device", I'm just stating that only game software can differentiate the two from each other.

[Emilio_Estevez]

While that's true imo, it still doesn't seem like Sony has used it to full potential.

[Rainstorm81]

This is very true, Sony needs to to more to have games that works to its strengths, Deadmunds Quest was nothing but Sports champions as an adventure game. Killzone and Resistance used move well but they need to move beyond FPS games.

Hopefully Sorcery and Bioshock infinite can change that for PS move

[Consoldtobots]

I like move, I think it's a great way to get a workout. That said, I have to disagree with move implementation in FPS games. To me the fact that you need to wave your weapon in order to pan left or right totally killed the experience for me. Trying to pan to the right spot and then re-aim at your target while they are they most likely using a controller(online) meant you were getting owned 99% of the time. How they could not incorporate left and right analog stick functionality into these guns is beyond me and a major fail on the designers part.

[NYC_Gamer]

It could be way better if Sony really supported the PSMove with solid exclusive software

[Dante112]

True, I was hopefully an exclusive game similar to Demon Souls would be release for the move but it never came. It has the potential but Sony isn't using it.

[TheLastGuardian]

I hope Sony will have more Move exclusive games like Sorcery in the future but, I'm satisfied with the amount of software that supports both Move and the Dualshock 3.

I really enjoy using Move in games like LittleBigPlanet 2, RE5: Gold Edition, Heavy Rain, Funky Lab Rat, Killzone 3, inFAMOUS 2 and Resistance 3.

I'm really looking forward to playing Sorcery, Dust 514, RE6 and Bioshock Infinite with the Move. I don't regret buying Move and navigation controllers at all.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

@TheLastGuardian

I recommend buying Goldeneye or at least playing it if you get the chance. Make sure you get for a relatively cheap price. I hard a brief go and it feels satisfying enough to warrant a purchase at the right price from me.

Move is really under-used. I love wii games such as Metroid, Zelda and Mario where I think the controls really add to the experience. I love how brilliant aiming is on Resident Evil 4 (its actually better than Resident Evil 5). I just want a bunch of PS3 exclusives to shine in the Move department, because I genuinely love motion control.

Does inFAMOUS2 work well?

[GribbleGrunger]

Infamous 2 with MOVE is supposed to be the best use of MOVE on any game

[TheLastGuardian]

Oh yeah, the Move implementation in inFAMOUS 2 and inFAMOUS: Festival of Blood works very well. They're some of the best games for the Move imo. The aiming and camera controls are very smooth and it definitely adds to the experience for me.

I'll play inFAMOUS with Move and navigation controllers over the Dualshock any day. Whether you play using Move or a Dualshock, I highly recommend inFAMOUS 2 to every PS3 owner.

@GribbleGrunger

LittleBigPlanet 2 is the best use of Move so far imo.

[Fylus]

DUST 514 ALLLLLL the way! Can NOT wait for it.

[shinrock]

wow, your comment reads like a sony ad.

[portugamer]

@gametimeuk,
I spent the last months playing dozens of games,mass effect 2 got 90 incredible and great hours of my life.
2 weeks ago, I've found a deal, 2 platinum bought=1 platinum free.
I got mass effect 3 ce, which is still waiting, modnation racers, resistance 3(great game) and infamous 2.
Man,I've been playing infamous 2, did about 40%, and played for more than 15-20 hours.I have the move, but I'm playing with a dualshock.
The game is simply incredible,really addictive, and I'm gonna surprise you: the graphics and textures are as good as uncharted.
You have to see those crispy textures,with great colors, hundreads of buildings,each one dfferent,with its own textures.walls are great, the floor,lights, I mean, everything is great.
I can't imagine all the time spenton every building, roof, etc, so each one is unique. Really,the works is simply amazing, when you play it, is like driving a 6cl 300 hp, when you accelerate,you can FELL thatengime working. Well, you feel the same,when playing infamous 2. You can imagine every component on the ps3 giving its maximum power, with all the stuff on the screen,at th same time.

So yes, don't miss infamous 2,I promise you will have a great time playing it.

About move, I bought it day 3 or 4, along with sport champions.the game was incredible, and th french ball game was really accurate,I had a great time playing it,with my family.

I also bought start the party, but not being able to choose all the games, it wasn't great.

I wish there was a 'move only' 20 hours game,with a great story, that 'forces' players to progress, and have fun.

[killcycle]

POINT BLANK

[blue7_7]

Funny how Sony seems to always acknowledge both Kinect and the Wii yet Nintendo and MS don't even seem to acknowledge the existence of the Move.

[Bundi]

Acknowledge? More like troll. But what can you do when your product is trailing and other companies are raking in the profits of their labour? Wii and Kinect don't need to troll Move to be noticed, they are already successful.

[GribbleGrunger]

a dildo reference? were do they think it up... unique and hilarious.

from a Sony fan (me): i have to agree that the MOVE has not matched Sony's expectations and that largely speaking the support it's had has been more a token that anything else.

yes, it's great that you can play KZ or RFOM or Infamous with MOVE (and it WORKS), but what a lot of people bought into was the idea of having unique experiences, which frankly is difficult to accomplish on a peripheral that is more or less the Wii with a little more accuracy. what can be done on a peripheral like this has more or less been covered by the Wii already (Sony's biggest problem)

i think the MOVE came out too late, but i'm still not convinced it won't be a success in the long run now we are actually starting to see some interesting games coming out for it such as Sorcery and that Walt Disney game (can't remember the name of it)... but it's up in the air for me.

in a race for numbers sold, perhaps the MOVE will always be a failure for some people, but to me a success isn't about that... and then there's another part of me that actually hopes the MOVE fails (don't be angry, i'm a Sony fan) but look at it this way:

would you sooner Sony spend more money on Uncharted quality games or more money on MOVE type games? i know which one i can sit comfortably with, have a cigarette and drink beer till the early morning with, and it isn't MOVE

[gamingdroid]

@Hicken

...except it's not acknowledging, it is to compare yourself to the leaders! Standard PR/advertising tactic.

Nothing wrong with it, but you do want to compare yourself to the leaders not the laggards.

Why do you think MS compared the original Xbox to the PS2?

***It makes you appear more competent, at the very least, and investors take such talk as a sign that you're learning from your rivals to make moves to improve your own offerings.***

Real investors aren't reading PR bullshit to make investment decisions. That's ridiculous.

@GribbleGrunger

***would you sooner Sony spend more money on Uncharted quality games or more money on MOVE type games? i know which one i can sit comfortably with, have a cigarette and drink beer till the early morning with, and it isn't MOVE***

I wouldn't mind PS Move in quality games as long as the experience made sense. At one point, I never thought I would give up the keyboard and mouse. Now, my preference is the controller.

The last thing I want is this industry to stay stale, simply because a section of the market never wants changes.

***don't be angry, i'm a Sony fan***

We know! :D

[hesido]

I think the move experience would be much more exciting, if they came as double pack by default and had anaologue controllers on it. No navigation controller, both motion capable, analogue touting controllers would have really gotten us a better experience: Instantly, two player games with basic navigation (without on-rails) would be possible for ALL move users, and single player games without the navi controllers that require precise motion control but more immersive as left hand would be tracked for motion, would be possible too.

It has been a missed chance for Sony to completely enhance motion gaming to a whole new level, but instead we just got something more precise than a Wiimote (and at least the nunchuck has basic motion sensors, while navi controller has not)

[Dasteru]

The Wii Mote and Kinect are more popular than PS Move for the same reason Bose or logitech is more popular than proper hifi audio companies like Klipsch, Paradigm or B&W. Marketing. They market them to appeal to the casual market that knows little about the actual technology involved and fall blindly into gimicks like "Controller Free"
Nintendo also has the advantage of being Nintendo. They are a far more well known and accepted company for gaming than Sony or MS.

[sorceror171]

If it gets more than one game like Sorcery, sure. Until then...

[thehusbo]

Well said. Hopefully this is the start of better support and more exclusive move only games. The potential is definitely there as sorcery shows.

[gypsygib]

Sadly, Sony is foolish to try and establish superiority with actual game quality. For most consumers, they think the thing that's advertised the most and endorsed by celebrities is the best, irrespective of games.

Also, Sony could have done a lot more in the games department anyways - why can't I use move in BF3, COD, Skyrim, etc., and moreover, why is this the first decent Move focused game?

Obviously, Move is not a priority at Sony. I give MS credit for at least putting 200% (and at least 200 million dollars) behind everything whether or not it's any good is another story.

[specialguest]

Yeap, I'm wondering the same thing as well about why this is the first decent Move focused game. After Sorcery, what's next?

[Iceman X]

The reason you can't use move in those games have nothing to do with Sony. It has to the companies that made the game and that Kinect could NEVER do a ANY FPS these companies will never let Sony use Move and Kinect can't, man it would be an uprising. Think about it, have M$ ever shown you ANY FPS running on Kinect? NO.If Killzone 3, MAG and Resistance 3 can run on Move then there's no reason the games you mention can't run. They choose not to.

[JaredH]

Sony actually has already done this with Bioshock Infinite announced as supporting Move out of the box. Sony was smart and probably payed 2K to implement Move in the game kind of like what Microsoft did with Mass Effect 3 and Kinect. They'll probably advertise the game as "better with Move" just like MS did too.

Motion control implementation is one of the new exclusive content for multiplat games that can get people to buy one version over another now. But there's still exclusive DLC and levels so it's not as popular yet but I guarantee it'll become popular if ME3 is way more successful on 360 and Bioshock Infinite is way more successful on PS3.

[gamingdroid]

@Iceman X

There certainly is a possibility to use Kinect for FPS. Ghost Recon showed a Kinect implementation and it looked pretty good.

I just don't know if there is a market for it.

[tiffac008]

^The blacksmith thing I can say yes, the actual aiming and shooting with Kinect... I'm not so sure.

Maybe on a rail shooting game but not ideal for an FPS.

[Iceman X]

Well from what Ghost Recon showed.... LOL all they show was "gunsmith" which you can do with a controller. They showed shooting and that was it. Notice how they never show you moveing around or doing a mission with Kinect. LOL Mass Effect 3.... the guys from Gametrailers TV asked why do you need Kinect for voice control??
Let's see Socom 1-3 did this with ANY usb mic 20yrs ago, next Endwar and Binary Domain and many other games nnow do this with ANY usb/blutooth mic.ANY FPS on Kinect will be on rails, this is what killed PS2 Eyetoy 20yrs ago, too many on rails games.

[InTheLab]

Unnecessary hype kills games...please stop.

Anyway, the tech demos from a few E3s ago showed why Move is better tech. It's too bad only a handful of 3rd party devs got the memo.

Side note...

I hate when "journalists" grab a quote from one dude that works for a company, and all of a sudden, bamm...the whole company said it. Amusing headline. I could see if Stig said it....

[Ck1x]

Its kind of to little to late for all of this Move superiority stuff at the end of this generation, it really doesn't mean much anymore

[guitar_nerd_23]

Agreed I already sold my moves after getting bored of waiting for decent software for it.

Table tennis and tumble were fun, that was about it for me.

[ShaunCameron]

Ehh. Sony doesn't have one PSM game that's better than the Wii's middle-tier library yet.

[DigitalRaptor]

Are you talking about Move-specific games? Cause PSM has lots of games that support it that are as good as and better than "the Wii's middle-tier library".

[Siren30]

I was excited about sorcery 2 years ago but now I don't even care about it. Imo the wii has already won the motion control wars. I haven't seen anything from kinect and especially the playstation move to even make me want one.

[Patriots_Pride]

So you were excited about Sorcery 2 before you even played 1 -_-

[wolokowoh]

BTW Siren30 was saying he/she was excited about "Sorcery" "2 years ago" not "Sorcery 2" "years ago". He was probably excited around E3 2010, a little less than 2 years ago. I understand how you could have misread it once but when something seemed off, I don't understand how you have done so twice. I'm going to assume you didn't go back and read it a second time in which case you made a simple mistake which could happen to anyone.
What's weird though is quite a few people agreed with you which shows none of them really took any time to read Siren30's comment and understand it before reading your reply to his comment or even went back after reading your reply. I guess that's just the N4G community though. Agreeing without any context or evidence and disagreeing with an opinion they didn't take the time to understand.

[ElementX]

Sorcery is vaporware until I see the finished product

[josephayal]

Nothing Can BEAT PS-Move

[multipayer]

The move specific features are only relevant if you stand up, and would you rather use your whole body standing or just a wand? Sitting down its like a wii with a useless nunchuck and calibration screens before a load of awful games. The controller looks and feels worse than a Wiimote aswell. Quit defending this abomination, they had tons of extra time to develop it and didn't even add dual analog or give it a comfortable grip.

[stuna1]

That's not true, I recount hundreds of hours sitting in my chair with pillow across my lap playing killzone. If anything it was a lot more comfortable, than standing hours on end holding my sharpshooter.

[multipayer]

It is true, because sitting down it is just like a hugely unpleasant wiimote with more strange and specific seating conditions for each game. It's hardly going to be more precise if it is such a pain to hold and calibrate.

I got a sharpshooter and it's not like aiming a gun at all, I don't get it. Just made the controller less portable. Who'd want to make an assault rifle less portable? I know what it would be like, it'd be like if my mouse had a huge plastic casing shaped like a gun around it and I'd aim it at the screen, but what I'd actually be doing it moving it across a mouse pad below it. That analogy is so close to the truth, it is hilarious... ABOMINATION!

[MysticStrummer]

@slugboss - I always find it amusing that people will have such hate for a product or company that they'll bother to get online and lie about it. Move works great sitting down and it can be used with great games. There just hasn't been enough quality Move-specific software for it.

[PixL]

@slugboss: now imagine real soldiers don't use mice to aim. I know, hard to imagine! What's more, their guns are not as light as Sharpshooter. They weigh several kilos! Terrible how they are treated, isn't it? They should be using the comfortable combo of WSADZXQRAFSPACECRTLSHIFT. Oh, I forgot G for granade.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Agreed. Move might not have the software to support it, but it sure as hell has the hardware. It's by far the best of the three imo.

[Sevir]

I'll be in line day one to pick up this game, But its just sad to see Sony not focus on the Move the way MS has on Kinect. while we all bash MS for going damn near casual on its Hardcore, we can not deny that MS has advertised and support its peripheral much more than Sony and has totally gotten back its investment! Honestly I'd like to see at least 4 Move-centric releases a year on retail from Sony and not just add on controls like a games get patched later on!

They just need to have a clear focus because the Move works great in many games but its like they fully realized! They need to advertise the software and the Hardware.

[GraveLord]

Move is the only motion control device that has core games available. Sorcery is the first Move-only game and I hope to see more in the future.

[will_c_75]

The real question is, next-gen when sony adds a kinect like camera and microsoft adds a wand, who is going to be called the copy cat?

[Iceman X]

??? Man Kinect is 20yr old technology it's Called PS Eyetoy. It was ok but failed due to too many on rails game and it just being limited on what type of games you can play.

[baodeus]

@Iceman X

then you would agree that, MS know how to do business and Sony don't. MS sell a 20 years old tech, that Jack Trenton said they developed 10 years ago, at quite a hefty price too ($150) no less, and Sony couldn't even sell a $50 piece of Eye Toy.

How Sony is still in business is quite mystery.

Like how Intel helping others companies on improving the efficiency and almost no defect production, MS should teach Sony how to do business then, based on what you said.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Your grammar aside, you are missing one important detail.

The EyeToy was the product of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe. SCEJ was basically in charge of the company, at the time. They wouldn't fund the EyeToy because they didn't think motion gaming would sell on a mass scale. Lol. -_-

[ZippyZapper]

You against the whole world Sony, because they don't care. Move is just the Wii and people know it. When Wii U comes out, Move will just die next to Virtual Boy. What people want now is Kinect, and the sales vs Move show that truth.

Most people who game with motion controls have a Wii, those people want something new like Kinect. Move is a failure that's why you have no exclusive Star Wars game.

This is pure desperation for Sony because no one is buying Move. You can use it when the lights go out.

Before you try and remove for trolling remember this http://n4g.com/news/968126/... fair is fair and I'm not off topic.

[DigitalRaptor]

Hmmmm just like the Wii eh? Last time I checked, even with Motion Plus, it still isn't 1:1 - and the Move? 1:1...! Sony are talking about technology here, and how Sorcery demonstrates how the Move is the best technology for games, according to them. This is nothing to do with consumer awareness or sales.

It's a shame about the PS3's Move-only games so far, but at least fans haven't been waiting around with only casual games and other junk to try and justify. What I've seen so far, is much more than what people are pretending hasn't come out in the past year and what will be coming in the near future.

Already available: Killzone 3, Resistance 3, Heavy Rain, Child of Eden, No More Heroes, InFamous 2 + Festival of Blood, LittleBigPlanet 2, Top Spin 4, Virtua Tennis 4, Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath, Sports Champions, Resident Evil 5, MAG, EyePet, Ninja Gaiden 3, GoldenEye 007, Dead Space Extraction, Time Crisis: Razing Storm, Tiger Woods PGA Tour, SOCOM 4, House of the Dead: Overkill, MLB: The Show (11/12), and loads more, including casual games, kids games, and a crap ton of great PSN games.

Coming soon: DUST 514, Sorcery, Datura, PixelJunk 4am, BioShock Infinite, LittleBigPlanet Karting, Disney's Epic Mickey 2, Resident Evil Chronicles HD, Counter Strike: Global Offensive, The Amazing Spider-Man, Star Trek, Until Dawn (that Move horror game).

Now... That's a lot of pretty nice content for a device that has and will have been out for under 2 years. I mean, don't take my word for it - http://www.gameslist.iwaggl...

And as your comparison w/ link... Star Wars Kinect vs. Sorcery!? Don't make me laugh. One of those games looks pretty good, and the other is a laughable, rightly-criticized abomination. You think the reason Move doesn't have a Star Wars game is because it's a failure? Nope, Star Wars was announced before Kinect was even called Kinect and much before it was released so there goes your "failure" argument. :/

The reason PS Move doesn't have one, I thought, was because Microsoft paid LucasArts to make one for them.

[mobhit]

What's a complete failure is your inability to troll properly.

[gamer7804]

Sorcery does look good, but i wouldn't expect anything but glowing praise from a company for their own product and nothing but criticism to their competitors products, who have far outpaced them in motion controls this generation.

[Shadonic]

A good motion control game doesn't need 1:1 accuracy as long as its entertaining. I'm still hopeing that Microsoft gets some of those modders in a position where they can teach others about their ideals they broke the shooter free movement and fighting barriers of kinect Microsoft just needs to realize this and learn from it and expand upon it.

[Iceman X]

Not true when you're playing shooters and games that require accuracy, then yeah you need 1:1. I got Killzone 3, Socom 4, The Fight and many other PS Move games without 1:1 they all you be crappy ass games.

[Shadonic]

true but I dont think i explained what i was trying to say or i just siad the wrong thing. What im trying to say is that the kinect games dotn all need to be like kinect sports of kinect rush with the real world movemnt thing i would much reather see just motion control adaptations into games like sony did with socom or like what the hackers did with skyrim and bulletstorm on kinect. I belive that where sony has a motion control that everyones ok with there not pushing it enough they cuould do alot more with it while microsft is pushing the kinect just not for the Core audience. I was hopeing to see a back to back battle between Ms and sony but it seems like they both jsut went like Meh after they made some sales.

[arbitor365]

you can explore 3d environments

so, right there, its better than anything the kinect has ever done

[Awesome_Gamer]

PS Move is awesome.. I like it more than my kinect, its preforms way better too

[cstyle]

Really sony....lol I think Kinect has proven that its more technologically advanced than the other two. My thing is, if they think Move is so great, why is this gen about to end with hardly no original move software besides the launch titles? I both the thing because they claimed that there would be lots of 3rd party titles created just for the technology.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

More technologically advanced?

I'm sorry... What?!?

You do realize the Move has/can do everything Kinect has been shown to do on the Xbox 360, correct?

Have you ever played Tumble? Try playing that on Kinect. Actually...try playing an RTS like RUSE on the Kinect. How's that working out for you? Post a video of it, as well.

[cstyle]

Sorcery can played on the wii too. I don't see any reason why it can't. Kinect has done plenty that the move can't. Come on man, get serious. Sony hasn't shown us hardly anything besides tacking on controls for games that already use the controller. Thats cool but its not the reason people bought the device.

Kinect may not have a a lot of core support but the way they are using it with games like Steel battalion and the way its uses voice and gestures are very cool and we all know sony can't accomplish that with the move. Move is basically another controller. Sony put it on the back burner since launch and now that this gen is almost over they wanna try and say that this one game separates the move from the others. That's laughable. Move has had lackluster support from 3rd and 1st party devs. Where are all the original move titles they claimed were going to be developed for the device? MS is supporting kinect. It may be more on the casual side but at least they are supporting it.

Move and kinect are both great techs but we all know that Kinect is the more advanced one. That is just a fact.

[arbitor365]

I dont understand how anyone can call the kinect more advanced when it is incapable of doing any genres that arent on rails. you cant play an FPS, TPS, RTS, platorming, hack and slash, racing (though they tried and failed with forza 4), RPGs, or anything that involves exploring a 3D environment. that is advanced gaming tech? please.

and really, server-1. voice commands? you think voice commands are something new? all you need is a headset for that and a game that integrates it. there are ps2 games with voice commands

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

So...

When are you going to try and play Tumble or RUSE with Kinect? You failed to reply to most of my questions, so I won't acknowledge yours.

[Shnazzyone]

Really? Sony says that their game proves that their device on their system is better then the other motion tracking on other systems?!?! Well this is clearly unbiased and indisputable proof. Can't wait for sorcery to start being compared to skyward sword in every way other than sales.

[Magic_Spatula]

Yea, seems like Sony put the Move on the back burner like they did the PSP when the PS3 was coming out. They seem all too focused on the PS3 and Vita now. Wish the Move did get some more love.

[Adolph Fitler]

The difference being that Move does 1:1 with PS3 graphics, while the Motion + does 1:1 with PS2 graphics.
Why do all Nintendo's home console stuff this gen have something to do with going to the toilet......motion....wii..... .They all entail urine/urinating or hanging a gimungous sh!t.

[Adolph Fitler]

Oh, & people raving about how Kinect is superior tech....well, yeh, but the crap they are using it for you may as well compare to that silly supposed cancer cure that was on PSN (can't remember the name & don't care enough)......as they are using Kinect in conjunction with high end computers to teach surgeons to operate & such.......Now I just don't want to play games that entail using my hands to trudge through someones gizards to find there lower bowel & give them gastric band surgery or some sh!t.
Simple fact is that Kinect is pretty useless for anything but the most casual of games, whereas, motion + has already shown us with Skyward Sword, that hardcore games can prospher from these type of controller interfaces.
Kinect can never offer the type of hardcore gaming that Move is capable of & has shown glimpses of with Killzone 3, Socom 4 & a few other select titles that implement the tech well, & as stated motion + is already light years ahead in terms of tech implented into software.....the problem Wii has is the fact it released as last gen tech, so the power has been an issue to even the casual market (where it's aimed at) for a while & won't get better, thus why Wii-U has already been announced & confirmed for a 2012 release.
Casuals are also slowly waking up to Kinects limited ability & 5 minute wonder software.

[Voxelman]

extra! extra! Company says own product is better than competition news at 11, read all about it

[sly-Famous]

"As a gamer it doesn't really appeal to me that much. I like something a little meatier."
Dont we all? though I must say I am looking forward to this game, it looks like great fun and the fact that Sony Santa Monica is deving it just tells you that the hardcore gamers will not be neglected.

[NeloAnjelo]

Regardless of which is "better" Sony has not marketed Move or given anyone a good reason to buy it.

Core gamers haven't got enough reasons to by it.. so sell it to the causal market... to the people in the core gamers' household who may play the Wii...

Kinect was well marketed, and has Dance Central... it sells. Move is the complete opposite. when you think Move games they are only a few, and most are core games with Move support.

Coming into this market was just a money burner for Sony, like the whole 3D thing. Just focus on selling the PS3 and Vita and MARKET these across the world. Think of the development money and the resoursces ploughed into these. They've got their fingers in too many pies.

[Gigglefist]

Ha. Better.
They're all gimmicks. Nothing will ever beat the good 'ol controller. At least not until full virtual integration.

[jimmins]

Everyone knows Move is the best technology, even die-hard Xboxers like myself.

It's just a shame nobody wants it. Sony (and Microsoft) are five years too late.

[Shane Kim]

The only move game i'm interested in is Datura. Check it out, it looks really awesome.

[Condemnedman]

I think hardcor wise the move would be better than kinect. But its not the hardcore Microsoft Are chasing (they have their share of them) it the causual side they are chasing and lets face it star wars branding is going to sell better than an new game not many have heard of outside gaming sites.

[devilhunterx]

Pew Pew Pew!

[PygmelionHunter]

Too late for me to care, sorry...

[ForROME]

SONY has indirectly realized they have lost that battle; rather move is better or not at this point is moot due to sales.

SONY is putting resources into their new ventures now, vita etc as they should.

[Young_ART]

people always talk about how the move "has no games", and im sitting here scratching my head at how all these people think kinect is just sooooo "innovative" and "amazing", may i ask wtf you're playing on that thing? or do you just use it to "Control your dashboard" or whatever. SMH

the thing thats great about move is that I've been able to play both quality hardcore and casual games with motion controls. and not just "rail shooters" and "dancing games" im talking full FPS, RPG, and Sports games, even RTS. with the move you can use it with all genres..

tell me what youre killer app for kinect is? is it that skittles the tiger game from e3?

get out of here with this delusional xbox talk. your company had to put millions of dollars into shoving it down consumers throats just to get them to buy it, and now it collects dust.

bye.

[lilmetal]

This game is THE reason I own a PS Move.

[DiRtY]

I predict 70-79 metacritic and lifetime sales about 500k. It will bomb just like move did.

[giovonni]

Sony failed in the innovation department, when you don't offer anything outside of what the wii can do. (although it's more accurate) can cause comparable issues, and don't get me wrong. In business, products will be compared. However, the plan is to have something compelling something outside of your competition, and once again Sony failed to find that median. of course the extremest will disagree, but there is no flag ship title for move, no must have game to be played on move, no marketing blitz, nothing.
and if they aren't careful the Vita could share the same faith

[videoxgamexfanboy]

Motion controls suck period! They add nothing to my gaming exp. All you people arguing over 1:1 and how this motion control is better than that motion control need to stfu. The only console with motion control killer apps is wii. This is a fact. Kinect sucks as a controller but works great as a navigation device. MOVE hasnt shown me a reason to put down my wii but then again my wii hasnt given my reason to turn it on in months. Bottom line, motion controls are lame...

[taijutsu363]

Has this games release date finally stop being pushed???! When I first saw the demo of this game at E3 I was like "just for this game im going to buy a Move!" And now I finally can goddamnit!

[sarshelyam]

I played Sorcery at CES this year and it is, without a doubt, the best use of the Move setup I've experienced outside of something special I played at GDC.

That said I am very, very excited to once again get my hands on this, in the comfort of my own home.

[Vickistheman]

From a technical standpoint, yea Move is way better than Kinect and Wii.

If we're talking about "support, hype and marketing" then Kinect wins.

If you're talking about casual market share, then Wii wins hands down. Dollars wise, this is the most important so I would have to give the "win" to Nintendo here.

[Tai_Kaliso]

Does anyone expect Sony to come out and say Wii Motion Plus or Kinect is better than Move? Of course not, that would be ridicules.

That being said, the reason I bought a Move was to play Sorcery. It should have been a launch game all along, I think Move was marketed wrong, Sony tried to market it to hardcore gamers and they should have just marketed it to gamers, much like what Nintendo and Microsoft does. Don't label it and don't alienate it.

I always thought that Sony felt like they had to justify Move to their core gamers and by doing so it scared away potential casual gamers.

Move lacks killer apps that are Move only, I mean Sony slapped support on some games, but they needed at least a few Move only apps that caught peoples eye.

I'd say from maybe a technical standpoint Move might work better for movement than Kinect or Wii Motion plus, but saying its better for any other reason is strictly opinion.

Some people might like the idea of no controller and some people might prefer using 1.1 motion controls with Nintendo's first party lineup. Its all relative.

[Machioto]

That would be true but their is video of almost every move game by a guy called iwaggle3d on you tube and he has a website showing how they work and cvg is trolling because it said "Sony says",when reall it was taking from an interview Mr. Upton(a dev for sorcery) did for a website named industrygamers that's on page 2 of sorcery in the bracket that's in grey.

[Game4life]

JUust wondering what kind of story does Sorcery have? I haven't really heard anything on the story.