BioWare Won’t Rule Out Changing Mass Effect 3 Ending

BioWare clarifies statements regarding their stance on changing the ending of Mass Effect 3 on their official facebook page.

[MetalNCarnet]

Just one word... wow.

[StanSmith]

My exact reaction too.

Mark my words, gamers have green-lighted another business move. We will have to pay for endings via DLC! Congrats!

I get that your choices don't effect the ending and that the endings are all similar, but if Bioware now change the ending then that is daft. The ending needs to stay without change. What needs to change are the alternative endings.

[da_2pacalypse]

Here is what I'm pro for:

-Create more endings, leave the single ending that you created in the first place.
-Make it free
-make the endings distinctively different
-have more of our choices affect the endings
-Give us more characters (for free, 6 is too little)

This is what I'm against

-replace the current SINGLE ending with another SINGLE ending
-make us pay for it
-make more MP DLC
-Make multiple endings with different colour schemes

I don't think it's too much to ask for multiple endings in a game that is centred around choice

[pocketaces11]

I don't know what all the commotion is about but I do feel that if they give in to what is PERCEIVED by me... The fewer but louder whiny gamers these new ending it will only fuel their fire to whine more and see what else they can get out of people.

Although I'm still playing thru ME2 right now so I can't comment as to whether these accusations are warranted or not

[Philoctetes]

The only thing that could possibly cheapen this franchise any more is if Bioware releases the "real" ending as DLC. As awful and inexcusable as the ending is, Bioware made their bed and now they need to lie it.

[DeadlyFire]

I still don't see why The Illusive man didn't mutate like Saren.

So many little things. It could all be fixed in a flash really though. They need to only do one or two little things to set the ending straight. Delete that segment with Joker flying off to another planet with all of your crew. Earth is only fractions of a minute away. Add in something happening to each ending. Give us option 4 when talking to the boy. "I don't like your damn choices. I want to kill you and the Reapers."

[krazykombatant]

hey buddy its called a spoiler TAG USE IT!! YOU MASSIVE @ss!

[Nimblest-Assassin]

SPOILER

If you had the artbook in the CE that was the original plan, having TIM undergo a Saren-like transformation at the very end and being the final boss.

However, the team realized this idea would not work properly and scraped it completely

[Lazy_Sunday]

Of course they're going to change the ending--they have so much DLC opportunity.
It's EA, so most likely, they'll be selling the new ending packed in with DLC.

[codename13]

I dont know !! what could I expect from them now after massive disappointment. After all they are now totally indoctrinated by greedy EA.

[kent80082007]

It's official now, people who call those asking for a different ending whiners now whine even louder than those who are asking for a change in the first place

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

I haven't seen it yet but goodness even if it were bad don't give in to these freaking gamers. Mass Effect is YOUR game not theirs. Who are they to tell you how to end your franchise?

[Chuk5]

What the hell are you talking about?

It's clearly their game.

[codename13]

Don't worry, just finish the game and then lets see whether you can hold ur own comment. :P

[perfectCarbonara]

LOL. Are you serious !?

Gamers are their customers, they damn well better please us.

If it's just 'Bioware's game' then why sell it ?
Just make it and keep it to yourself.

Nonsense !

[Chuk5]

Does a musician make music for everyone else? Does a writer make novels for everyone else? Not really. I don't know why people fail to recognize the importance of creative input that developers have. They don't make games directly for us. They wisely listen to what fans like and what is well-received, but ultimately their muse guides them, for better or worse.

[Ghost250]

no you don't have a say in how a company developed the story in a game, so get this crap out of your head thinking your entitled to something your not. if we were talking about content locked from a fucken disc that your getting charged for after you bought the game at full price like "From Ashes" then i'd understand. but you have no say on how the story of a game ends, never have never will. there is hundreds of games that people don't like how a game ends but you don't see them making a big deal. you know how much i hated the resistance 3 ending but im not gonna fucking complain about if thats how the story was meant to end in the eyes of the developer then i can't argue about their vision i can only comment on it. but you Mass Effect tiddy babies are nothing more than a bunch of idiots. i really hope BioWare doesn't change the ending of this game, if they do i can see little babies crying about every games ending. just because some of ya'll don't like the ending doesn't mean other people don't. get the fuck over yourselves.

[AtomicGerbil]

Whilst I agree entirely that gamers are in no way entitled to a change of ending, I will say that Bioware did not deliver in any way shape or form in what they've been saying the ending/s were going to deliver.

I think the overall disappointment by many is warranted.

[csreynolds]

Yes, nonsense! Perfect word to describe your opinion.

[SilentNegotiator]

@Chuk

Do I spend $60 on an album (No wait, $70 with the bonus song)?
Do I read a novel for 100 hours and just shrug if the ending sucks?

[Ness-Psi]

If it was just about excepting what was put out with no discussion the nazi's would have taken over.
but if your chosen demographic who you cater to, is unhappy with it they have a right to voice their opinions.
if bioware do anything is up to them becuase it is their game, but non the less it could have been alot better.

make your choice shepard:

(+) choose to fight for a better ending.

(+) sit on the fence and dont care either way.

(+) call people names and whine about fanboys.

[badz149]

there will not be this much rage over the ending if ME was an RPG with a linear story and gamers just need to follow that story path dictated by Bioware!

ME is about choices you made along the way and you can even carry over your saves and characters since the 1st game all the way to the 3rd! gamers were PROMISED that their choices will bare different consequences and will effect the outcome of the trilogy but the endings are far cry from what promised! so, why make such ridiculous promises in the first place just to have the endings throw away all the decisions made out of the window? playing all the way, making different choices but in the end only given the option to choose the color of the ending?? get out of here Bioware!

[AusRogo]

The only disappointing thing is not being able to change genders with an imported character, sucks not having all the gear ive had from ma2. I just want to see the game from a different perspective :(

[nik666uk]

I can't believe they're even considering giving in to these spoilt brats!!! U don't get everything u want in life!! I was absolutely gutted with how Sopranos ended after investing 10 years of my life following it, but instead of jumping up and down on the spot throwing a tantrum like a spoilt child who can't get his own way I moved on like an adult because that's what grown-ups do, they accept that things don't always go the way they had hoped and they move on!! GET A GRIP!! U ALL LOOK VERY FOOLISH AND IMMATURE!!!! YOU'RE ALL A CREDIT TO YOUR PARENTS! HAHAHA

[FCOLitsjustagame]

And then you came to a comment board and threw a tantrum because other people may or may not get something they want. Nice.

[limewax]

We look foolish and immature? Least we aren't using caps to shout at others who we don't even know just because their opinion differs from ours.

[Awesome_Gamer]

To the people that did finish the game yet, Please guys finish the game first then you will know why we complain about the stupid ending

[Bay]

They either give them a better ending, or they lose a good chunk of their players. It's the job of the entertainer to entertain, it's how they're supposed to make money. I mean, if watched a play/stage act/whatever that completely sucked, I wouldn't want them to keep doing it badly, you'd want them to be good so they can keep providing you with good entertainment.

Besides, if they do make another ending, those who are satisfied with the current ending don't have to get the new ending. Especially if they decide to charge for it.

[BitbyDeath]

Isn't that the end of the series? They already have peoples money who completed it.

Bring on a new series.

[AtomicGerbil]

Not necessarily, they have your money for what you have purchased, but corporations like EA work on what they can sell you on the back of that purchase.

Right now, with the lack of damage control, the Bioware name is being recognised for a huge disappointment in story telling, which is what their forte is. This, along with the Dragon Age 2 upset is not helping their reputation, which will lead to very cautious customers. Corporations don't like cautious customers because it ultimately upsets their financial projections. At it's most basic, EA may well lose a lot of future sales with Bioware products, future sales they probably would of guaranteed for shareholders.

[FCOLitsjustagame]

Based on the DLC pitch they throw at you at the very end of the end (should not be a spoiler as it is not in game). I assume they want to sell more stuff to the fans. If everyone stops playing the game because of a crappy ending, then those sales are going to be hard to come by. I bought DLC for ME1 and ME2 but at this point see no point for ME3.

[csreynolds]

Oh good, another developer buckling under the weight of 'entitled' gamers. Honestly, your whining ashames me...

[BitbyDeath]

Agreed

[sly-Famous]

"BioWare Won’t Rule Out Changing Mass Effect 3 Ending"
For a fee of course.

[J@D]

of $14.99 plus a new set of clothes and a new weapon :D

[FlyShootRaceSims]

They made us INTERACT with the in-game characters, they made us choose who'll die and who'll survive based on our biases (Ash or Kaiden, Geth or Quarians, etc.). Yet when it comes to the ending, we can only choose from three identical endings, WTF?! What if I am selfish and pick self-preservation? I mean I've been saving the whole galaxy from day one and survived till the end and then you ask me to sacrifice myself? WTF?

If Bioware decides to alter the ending with a real closure, then it's good on them. If they don't, well, watch out for the angry nerds, lol!!!

[Run_bare]

Maybe he should finish the game first before commenting. I always believe that Mass Effect is a game with options and choices, Nuff Said.

[Legionaire2005]

Ahhh the title is misleading nothing to comment about just a guy who wants hits.

[NeloAnjelo]

I have never heard of an game's ending so widely discussed or debated. Goes to show how much Mass Effect means to people.

I would love a different ending.

[ziggurcat]

the only thing it goes to show is that people have a bloated sense of entitlement.

[NeloAnjelo]

Actually I disagree.
Given the wide spread feeling about the ending and people's reaction, it shows that gaming has transcended other forms of entrainment media...

People have invested so much time, and care so much about the characters they have built and met...they feel having a say is their right, and since their choices matter throughout the game, why should it not matter in the end? Why should they settle for a "one fits all" ending when their choices were different from mine?

What happened to my other Squad mates? How does the person that I had a relationship feel now that I'm gone? What did Garrus, Joker, Ashely, etc amount to? ... All Fundamental elements to the story... after all we care so much because of the choices we made. And the final "choice"? Everything really with the same outcome?

[mab636]

this is so dumb...i can't believe they are actually considering this. Its absurd. The game is what it is whether you like it or not. If a movie is made with with an unpopular ending, are they going to have to start re releasing a different movie with a different ending?? Its really silly.

[FCOLitsjustagame]

Actually they screen test movies before they release, and it is not unusual to change the ending after it test badly.

Now of course that doesn't, and shouldn't happen with indie or artsy movies... but then ME is a blockbuster not an indie or artsy movie. These guys are expecting to make money.

[urwifeminder]

No wonder people only think gamers are children when this behaviour is on display,kind of makes me want to quit gaming in disgust and soak in a bath of vomit, a dev should make a whiney fan horde mode zombie gamers coming at you with complaints.

[aliengmr]

Hyperbole much?

Get off your high horse. You're whining about other people whining jackass. People complain about games all the time. Sometimes Devs actually change them.

Its like people just got stupid all of a sudden. Acting like ME3 is the first game where gamers wanted something changed. uhhh Witcher 1 & 2.

All this "artistic integrity" bullshit is just that. Movies, books, songs, everything is altered to sell. Do some damn research before coming here and looking like a dumbass.

[urwifeminder]

Get off your high horse yourself someones a little touchy you just sound bitter and pathetic like the whingers you make me sick.

[m23]

I may lose some respect for Bioware if they choose to change the ending. I think the ending was good, it is how they envisioned their ending to the trilogy and i feel it was a great way to complete it. People just like to look for plot holes, maybe they don't have anything better to do, but do you really think they could complete every little story detail in the last moments of the game.

The game was amazing, and people are hating on it because they didn't like the last 10 minutes. Go make a game yourself if you think its so easy, ungrateful children.

[Baka-akaB]

except everything points to it not being how they envisionned and just being pulled up last min for the sake of doing dlcs .

So i'm not sure why people say that and take the "dont touch the art" stance .

I'm more and more convinced they aint even reacting to the backlash , but that they were going to change the ending or add to it via dlc ANYWAY .

Imo there is no respect to have or lose over bioware when it comes to the ending . The situation is what it is .

[bigrob904]

are you serious, did you not pay attention to the ending at all. and as far as i'm concerned, when you tell a story the whole point if for you to tie up lose ends and not contradict yourself and leave plot holes in a story you crafted.

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[Ness-Psi]

the ending was a complete cop out it just fizzled out i expected a big fan fare and stuff but one little video then credits, come on it felt rushed (like the kotor 2 ending). if they do change it with DLC then i'm not totally against that idea but that leads us in to another slippery slope of companies holding back endings for DLC.
what then, they sell the game to us in bits and charge full retail prices.

**Spoilers**

also there should definitley be an ending where you survive destroy all the reapers and live happily ever after.

[bigrob904]

yes i agree, as a game thats "suppose" to have multiple ending, that should be a choice.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Bioware made the ME3 ending crap on purpose so that later they can make a better ending as DLC. Yup...

[GAMExxOVER]

Maybe they should just be like COD and never have an ending, just keep putting out new maps and calling it a new game every year, then every one will be happy like the COD fans.

[dcbronco]

The ending was a disappointment. I wish they had used all of the decisions that the player made during the series to determine the final outcome. A final battle on the Citadel. Instead of killing off people in videos or not having them as playable characters, squad-mates and supporting soldiers would be used in the final battle. If they die, they are dead. Just like the suicide mission from 2.

The multi-player should have been released earlier and the characters promoted could be used as your support players. The more you played the mutli-player, the better the supporting soldiers would be. Decisions like who you chose to stay with another earlier in 3 would determine the strength of the group they stayed with(or not).

In that way, your decisions from the first two would have made a difference. As well as your decisions in the 3rd. If Ashley(Kaiden) remained with you in 3, she/he can help at the end. If you lost most of your team in the suicide mission. You will have fewer to use on the Citadel. If they die during the final battle you can replace them with another. If they all die before the battle is over, hope you put in time on the MP and promoted a bunch of guys because you will be left with regular soldier for the rest of the battle.

And if the reapers kill Shepard and everyone else in the final battle, then at least you wrote the ending. And the next cycle won't matter because we won't be here.

[StoneAgeWarfare]

if a company fucks with you take action by boycotting there product or not spending money on them

[theWB27]

So basically Bioware is damned if they do, damned if they dont.
Gamers- Fck your sorry ending bioware!!!

Bioware- ok..ok. Lets see what we can do and see if we can fix it.

Gamers- What your going to change it!? Thats's stupid it should have been the way WE wanted it the first time.

Bioware- Dude chill, we are checking on a solution.

Gamers- NO!....NO! Dont change it and just let me bitch about it some more and complain about how one 10 min ending has killed your company.

Bioware- We gave you Jade Empire, Star Wars...

Gamers interrupt-NO! NO! NO! Its 10 whole mins! It just means you dont care! You never loved me!

Bioware- I think their tampon needs changing. Lets go create more stellar games for these numbskulls.

Gamers continues bitching- NOOOOO! NOOO! I want the DLC to be free! Free!!!!

Bioware- We have people to pay. The game developers are working on 30-40 thousand dollar salaries. Would you work for free if you messed orders up in the drive thru?

Gamers- NO! But you should because I demand it! Its my hobby, my life now appease me now!

Bioware walks aways- Wow