At GDC, Christina Norman - formerly of Bioware - vented her feelings on people complaining about day-one DLC.
i wasn't aware that there was a lot of day one moaning about DLC but now you mention it! the cheek!!!!!
I find Online Passes far more insulting than Day One DLC. At least the latter is a fair exchange of money for a product. The former, is a hidden evil that limits you in how you use your $60 game! To make the entire experience even more pleasant, they slap an expiration date on the code! All gamers enjoy!!!
The problem is that the ME3 'From Ashes' DLC is about the Protheans, i.e. the basis for the entire Mass Effect universe. This is THE central part of the ME canon. There is no way Bioware can convince gamers that it is not a 'core' component of the game. It should by rights be included in the full game.
Agreed. He's also an amazing character and according to some people who've played the DLC, the best one in the whole Mass Effect universe. And I always thought he'd be in the game as an NPC considering he actually was in the leaked script...
He's a good character but he's definitely not the best one in the ME universe in my opinion. And I don't really like having him in my squad because most of his comments are pretty irrelevant, he has no common knowledge about the world that you're in which is expected since he's been asleep for 50,000 years, so I prefer having someone else in my squad who comments on things that you can learn from.
If they stop making it, we'll stop moaning ;)
Who are you again ? oh yeah right , not even working at bioware right now
Gamer to ex-ME dev: Stop making day one DLCs.
It's like selling a cake for $59 to a customer and then selling the icing for an extra $10. Would that be acceptable? No. Would the customer ask you why the F**K the icing hasn't been placed on the cake before you sold it to him? Yes. So stop making day 1 DLC.
STFU Charles! Err I mean christina. Then why were we lied to about the content being on the disk already?
Hmmm. . .do I detect a bit of whining on the part of Ms. Norman? And did I just catch a whiff of hypocrisy?
Video Games are expensive, I do not like paying so much for a video game only to learn that some content has been taking out so that it can be resold to me. This applies to all Day one DLC and especially on-disk DLC. I didn't complain about the DLC, I simply decided not to buy it. But her trying to justify it in a rant that makes the gamers seem petty is absurd.
I tried not to complain about it as well... I bought ALL the DLC for Borderlands, and it's funny but I regretted the original purchase of Borderlands but found that the DLC helped actually make the game fun. But that's just me. When done right DLC can extend the life of a game, when done pure and simply for greed it will turn a loyal fan into a fire-breathing troll who rages harder than the most roided up wilderbeast.
omg. the problem(atleast for majority of fans isn't day-1 dlc but it's contents. had bioware put james vega in the dlc instead of a prothean not many would care. imagine putting garrus in a day-1 dlc. he's been there all along. So were the protheans except considered extinct. now, one appears out of nowhere and bam he's in a dlc. i mean seriously WTF?
I remember a time when DLC was a guilty pleasure on the original Xbox, it didn't get in the way of games releasing. It was always something that came after. Splinter Cell was one of many games that had DLC back in 2002. Then PS2 starts to use it with The Socom series. Fast forward to 2005 and 2006 both 360 and PS3 had DLCs more than ever. Fast forward to 2010 Mass Effect 2 day one DLC character Zeed. Then many more games start to follow Mass Effect 2 even Capcom nickel and diming people. I dont care what anybody said, but The Prothean Javik should of been included not a DLC. I throught that his DLC was some kind of prequel to Mass Effect, but it was not. DLC should always come months later not on day one. I preorder the special edition cause it was the last game in the trilogy and I did the same for Halo 3, not because of DLC but it was the last. I thank Eat Sleep Play for making a full game. Game developers need to stop with this bullsh#t!!!
i gave up on ME after ME2, it wasn't hard to see the direction it was heading in. one of the most overrated games of all time shadows over a gem like the first game. sad story.
Yeah! What you REALLY want to do is not buy it.
We should definitely stop moaning, just bend over and let publisher do whatever they want to us, be it day one dlc, locked on disk content, online passes, and pieces intentionally cut from the initial game so they can charge for it later. Its this train of thinking that makes publishers thing they treat their customers however they please. Vote with your wallets, that's the only way crap like this is stopped.
i'm not complaining. but then i'm not buying it either. complaining doesn't help, if they actually cared what we thought they wouldn't have day one dlc in the first place. if you want them to notice your grievances, you have to hit them where it hurts, in the one thing they care about. money. don't buy their games, making less money is the only the only thing that they would notice.
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