BF3 – IRNV to be Tweaked Further, More on PS3 Input Lag, AA Buff to be Removed

Alan Kertz, Senior Gameplay designer at DICE give us some more insight into the balancing act that goes into developing a game like Battlefield 3.

[TheBeast]

Thank god the AA Buff is being removed.

[Mister_V]

Are you calling DICE a god? ;)

[Grip]

stop ur bull***, there is only one god

[zeroreloaded]

^ you mean satan right?

[Grip]

no, i mean Allah

[Rettom]

@zeroreloaded

I hope you're joking. If there is Satan there is a God, which means there is Jesus, which means there is heaven, which means there is life after death, which means it could be good for you if you live a righteous live, or bad if you do bad stuff... such as saying Satan is God. Very long story haha

[nanometric]

Or there's none of those things and people just like to live in a blissfull ignorance.

[JBaby343]

Or there is a God, Satan, angels/demons, heaven/hell and others like to live in blissful ignorance. At least for a short time.

[zeeshan]

What about the damn voip on ps3?

[soundslike]

lol at disagrees

walking is for newbz

l2fly

[tawak]

+1

[Criminal]

I'm glad they're working on the input lag. About time.

[DasBunker]

thats what they've been saying since they acknowledged the issue...

and now that they say they havent found what is causing it i have less hope that it will ever be fixed..

i dont get it that much... somehow it felt better one day before the patch, i think it has to do with something on their servers side of things..

[-Alpha]

What is this "input" lag? I have never noticed it

[Criminal]

It happens mainly on the PS3 on HDTVs from what I know.

[grailly]

the reaction time between what you input with your controller and when your screen reacts.

every game has it, but it's usually not noticeable by the human eye, battlefield 3 though has way more input lag than what is considered as noticeable.

Not everybody notices it, so it's hard to know if everybody has it. myself, I'm completely unable to play the game, I always over shoot and can't seem to control my character. I hope it'll get fixed

[Panthers]

Ive never experienced this on PS3 on my HDTV.

[frameflip]

I only have input lag when I dont have 'Game Mode' turned ON on my LED TV. I'm is specialz!!

[SpaceFox]

They need to do something about the high contrast, overzealous lighting effects and color grading.

Honestly my eyes start to hurt after just an hour of playing this game.

[Detoxx]

Yeah, its worst on Caspian Border though.. The map is to bright when your'e facing the sun and to dark when the sun is in your back.. It makes the map look ugly (I play on PS3 i dunno how it is on X360 and PC)

[-Alpha]

It's the damn blue tint!!! It's ruining all the maps and DICE calls it "art" direction. It's bull.

Here is an excellent thread: http://forums.electronicart...

KILL THE BLUE

[soundslike]

I like the hdr lighting personally. But I did turn up the saturation on my tv quite a bit.

[Hufandpuf]

I agree, I hate how the shadows look on Caspian and outside of the subway park area on Metro. The Shadows are WAY too dark and make the levels look ugly. On top of that due to Caspian's huge size, the level can look unfinished or unpolished at times. Playing this game on console makes want to get a PC at times but the smaller maps look and play great, like Siene Crossing and Bazaar.

[Mister_V]

Yeah, the darker maps tend to look better it seems.

[dantesparda]

Screw that! i like it bright and colorful like that!

[SpaceFox]

What color man? BF3 is the most bland and colorless game in recent memory.

Take a look at the new Wake Island:
http://i.imgur.com/cXJ4y.jp...

And compare it to 1943's Wake Island:
http://i.imgur.com/Tpyrq.jp...

1943 was a beautiful game. The only color BF3 seems to have is blue. For comparison's sake check this out:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sa...

[frostypants]

That's not a fair comparison. One pic is taken off-screen, the other is a screen cap. Sure, I'm sure BF3 is a LITTLE more muted, since that's sort of the weird trend with these games, but it's not THAT bad.

Also, 1943 had noticeably brighter colors than any of the BF games. BF3 is definitely in line with BF2.

[Mister_V]

The new Wake Island definitely looks more "realistic," however.

[SpaceFox]

@frostypants

BF2 Wake Island:
http://i.imgur.com/lYewq.jp...

[calibann]

Why do things always go wrong for ps3 versiosn of multiplat games?

[frostypants]

They usually don't. It's a myth spread by fanboys.

[DonaldBeck]

exactly

[PixL]

I haven't experienced the input lag. Nor have about 20 of my friends I play BF with. But we all have voip problems if 3 or 4 people in the squad have mics. How about fixing that, DICE?

[Cosmit]

"Another update many Battlefield fans can look forward to. Kerts also talked about the shotguns in Battlefield 3 receiving a slight nerf. However, he assured us that “it’s not that bad, and it’s not getting nerfed hard. The explosive damage will be similar, its the direct hits that aren’t intended to be 1hk with a USAS12.”

Oh crap thank you! That thing is OP hard. I see almost every high rank player using this gun with frags. There one hit kills if they hit you directly. And it's not that hard getting a direct hit. A 1V1 means almost instant death against one of them.

Also, I never really knew the Mobile AA guns were OP. After 55+ hours, I barely used them for the first time yesterday. And I went 32-0 on Noshahr Canals. It's indeed OP.

[Seventh_Blood_Reborn]

Frankly I'm disappointed with the job DICE did.

I mean the game is good, very good, but it had and it has still too many problems. Imput lag is extremely annoying.
The G3A3 damage is laughable on long range ...

It has passed more than a month ... what are they doing exactly?
A month is a long time, and they still don' t have idea of what they should do to fix the problems?! How is it possible at the forth game on the same console generation platforms?

[khellendros1]

I don't understand why they changed the damage to all the guns from Bad Company 2. The sniper rifles suck in BF3. Any assault rifle with a decent scope beats them.

[frostypants]

I'm fine with the sniper rifles. You just have to go for headshots. Besides, the main advantage of that class is putting out mobile spawns and spotting. You're never going to get high kill counts with them. The game encourages firefights, not 2 teams of worthless bush-wookies throwing rocks at each other from afar (see: every open-terrain map in BFBC2).

[Holeran]

They're saying the exact same thing they said about the input lag from when the game first launched. No changes on PS3 input lag in this amount of time? Sweeping the problem under the rug? The beta movement was much more fluid than the retail version.

[leogets]

No input lag for me.when I pull left at the dame time I say left.and my screen moves with my voice. Its bang on for me. Hdtv 50" lg plasma full 1080p