Digital Foundry vs. PS3 Skyrim Lag

Full analysis of the notorious 'Rimlag' issue and why the patched version still isn't good enough.

[PirateThom]

As someone on the site said "is this the reason reviewers got their PS3 copies late"

I'd say it almost certainly is. They knew there was a fault with the memory usage and thought they could do something about it with an early patch which hasn't worked and now they're sitting with thumb lodged firmly in ass with a game on one platform that isn't just buggy, but is becoming slowly unplayable for many people.

[FanboyPunisher]

Or a PC.

Couldn't deal with that terrible performance.

[josephps3]

Bethesda cheated, lied, scammed PS3 owners and PS3 reviewers are just as guilty.

Bethesda knew about the problem and tried to hide it and released it anyways. Had I known about this problem I would have never bought it on release. But all this talk about a new game engine and NOT A SINGLE MENTION BY ANY PS3 REVIEWER lead me to believe that this wasn't the usual bug infested broken release disaster Bethesda has now solidly cemented their reputation with.

Lets be clear about what Bethesda has done here-they purposely knowingly CHEATED, LIED, STOLED, COMMITTED FRAUD with Skyrim. Bethesda stoled $60 from every PS3 owner who bought this broken frustrating disaster of a game. Where is the class action lawsuit!

That lawsuit must include every PS3 reviewer who gave Skyrim a perfect score. A perfect score! Perfection means no flaws, errors, problems, mistakes; it can`t get better because you can`t improve on what is perfect. Not a single PS3 reviewer mentioned this major bug that makes the PS3 version unplayable. These PS3 reviewers LIED! They were all collectively talking out of their asses.

Skyrim clearly shows that Bethesda is a studio of con artists that must be sued out of business to send a message to other studios that you can`t cheat hundreds of thousands of customers and get away with it. What if you bought a Bluray player that freezes after you use it more than 3 hours continously. You`d bring it back and demand your money back! Would you accept the company telling you to just unplug and replug the machine and everything will be fine for another hour. No fracking way!

Skyrim also clearly shows that many of these reviewers don`t really properly review games. The gaming review industry has shown that it is not a professional industry with standards but made up of whole bunch of dishonest lazy scumbags that lie and get an easy paycheck. I remind you that NOT A SINGLE PS3 REVIEWER MENTION THE SKYRIM LAG PROBLEM. NOT A SINGLE ONE! Instead they all say that was a perfect GOTY material. blah blah blah. All bullshit! Every one of those reviewers were caught red handed. No excuses or explanation can get them out of this fraud.

Skyrim made the headlines alright but for all the wrong reasons. It proved without a doubt that:

1) Bethesda is a studio that habitually release broken games and try to get away with it and will continue to do so forevermore.
2) PS3 reviewers are con artists and liars.

[Baka-akaB]

Bethesda keeps pulling that crap with all their rpg on ps3 .

If you can't deliver on the console , be it your fault or the console's , dont release it .

But since they will never be that honest and upfront about it , ps3 owners needs to boycott bethesda's rpgs on release , and check beforehands if the game isnt broken before buying it

[T900]

Unfortunately Devs just dont test their games these days before release. Release now patch it later is the attitude.

Personally i am a PC gamer. I dont prepurchase games any more. I only buy them after launch once i know the game runs well, even though most of the time on the PC platform due to brute force most games run fine. However its really a shame devs are not testing a game before releasing it a console which is a fixed piece of hardware.

[gamingdroid]

The thing with testing is that it doesn't reveal all issues. Developers test for a lot of things, and they can't foresee all the issues.

As the article suggest this might be due to Garbage Collection, which is a difficult topic especially for something as performance as resource constrained as a game. Memory leak is also another suggestion. The PS3 has a tighter memory constraint.

The other thing indicated is the hard drive issues on the PS3. There might be some data fragmentation issues on the PS3, because of the way the data is laid out as well.

Hopefully Bethesda will fix this... from what I hear the game is great and people on my friends list is playing it religiously.

[Baka-akaB]

Well it's might always be something different each game , and obviously not on purpose , but the fact is bethesda own's game or dlcs always got issues at release on ps3 , it's time some gullible people took notice of that and prepared beforehand , just in case .

I have a pc so the de facto choice was skyrim pc , but even if i was a ps3 only owner , i'd take cautions with that developer and not be rushed into buying the game , or at least be aware of the risk .

[BigBoss1964]

How the fuck does Bethesda get away with this?

[T900]

Well dont prepurchase games, its that simple. Once they know we wont buy crap they will be getting over the release now patch later attitude.

[BigBoss1964]

Haven't bought Skyrim at all =P

[MasterCornholio]

So much for them saying that Skyrim on the PS3 got a ton of attention.

Anyways im off to fight the storm cloaks and slay a few dragons on The PS3.

XperiaRay

[nihonlight]

What if you went to the movies and the film studdered like skyrim halfway?
Wouldn't you demand a refund? This is bad business. Bethesda robbed ps3 owners
.Demand a recall.

[Omegabalmung]

The game really didnt bog down until I hit the 10mb save file. Was thinking of trading it in for Saints Row The Third or Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2.

[Faztkiller]

Well so much for them saying PS3 wasn't a problem that they learned not treat it like a pc and 360 looks like the done just that

[Favre-orite]

I'm at approx the 70hr mark myself with a 6MB save file. I have noticed some frame rate drop shown above but thought this was part of the "charm" of an Elder Scrolls game.

I played Morrowind back in 2002 on my XBOX. Great experience. No problems that I recall. Then in 2007, after taking a break from gaming for a few years, I bought a PS3 along with the GOTY version of Oblivion, the first game I played on my then brand new PS3.

Too many times now Bethesda has screwed me with crappy quality control. Oblivion went smoothly enough except for a few instances of slowdown (the screen was crowded with 6 or 7 enemies at a time and spells tossed every which way, etc.)

Then I bought Fallout 3. A decent game, but a bit too much freezing occurred (reset, reset again - wash, rinse, repeat, etc.) oh and the graphics were kind of crummy. But I really didn't expect a perfect game after I considered the size of the game world. It seemed like Bethesda did a decent job.

Fallout New Vegas was next. A different animal. What a disappointing, frustrating pile of horseshit had I just bought? For a fair amount of the game anyway. The story I actually liked better than Fallout 3. But the glitches, lockups, and quests that were screwed up. Patch after patch after patch. They even changed some of the characteristics and stats of some of the guns and ammo, thus making my strategy guide somewhat outdated. Then came the major pisser-offer. I found myself knee-deep in a pile of shit with a majorly f@#cked up broken quest. One that was part of the main quest that occurred at Hoover Dam (some of you may know of this one, I forgot the actual quest title). Anyway, to get around that I had to load a save file from 60 game time hrs earlier.

At least I wasn't foolish enough to buy their New Vegas DLC which is what they were no doubt concentrating on instead of dedicating more resources to fixing New Vegas.

Now Skyrim. Last year when I heard another Elder Scrolls game was coming, I was eager and looking forward to playing it. I thought it would be relatively flawless since Bethesda was both the developer and publisher just like Oblivion (but unlike New Vegas which was published by Bethesda but developed by Obsidian who I assumed to be responsible for the broken quests I encountered as well as the other annoying issues).

There's that old idiom "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". Let me just say I didn't have that line going through my mind when standing at the Game Stop counter handing over my 60 bucks. I, like many others was caught up in the game's hype.

Essentially what I wound up doing when buying Skyrim was rewarding a company for their incompetence. Bethesda might be the worst when it comes to placing profits far ahead of quality and putting smiles on the faces of gamers. If I do buy another Bethesda game, it will be a used copy from Amazon or a private seller. That way at least I'm getting some satisfaction that Bethesda is not getting any of my money!

I recommend we should all vote with our wallets from now on.

Sorry for the long rant, but I do feel better now XD

[Astargatis]

Favreorite apart fro Morrowind same story for me too...Bta New Vegas is still broken i hope Skyrim won't have same fate on PS3

[Captain Tuttle]

I feel bad for people who bought this on the PS3.

Buyer beware and all that