Epic nerfs the Gears of War 3 sawed-off shotgun plus weapon stats

XMNR: Epic Games listened to Gears of War 3 fan feedback and announced a change to the sawed-off shotgun on Tuesday and also shared stats with what is the weapon of choice in the Xbox 360 shooter.

[HacSawJimThugin]

Wow...I'm a little shocked Epic choose to do that just because of whining ass noobs who can defend themselves against the sawed-off. Phuck it...just as long as they don't "tweak" anything else, I'm good. I like the sawed-off but love the Gnasher even more.

[montyburns000]

the SOS is a cheap weapon. didn't the the countless threads on the epic forums and constant complaints across the internet tip you off?

[StanLee]

I don't think they nerfed the damage, just reduced the spread which was the biggest problem.

[NewZealander]

i hate the shot guns, i just cant deal with the slow firing weapons, gimme the lancer any day, if i have to get in that close for a shot then i may as well saw em in half.

[gamingdroid]

If you look at the stats, it doesn't appear the complaint are justified. I think it is just gnasher users finally getting some competition....

[JeffGUNZ]

It's not "competition", it's a bullshit weapon. It's really evident in King of the Hill. If the entire team has the sawed off, it's nearly impossible to counter the circle. Nothing is more frustrating then killing people in awesome 1v1 gnasher battles then some moron rolls into the cirlce, blindfires the SOS, and runs halfway across the map while they reload. I still finish MVP of the game, but it's still just a non-skilled, noob weapon.

My buddy has been newer to Gears since Gears 2 launched. He really treid to use the gnasher in Gears 3 beta, but everytime he gets frustrated with the gnasher he switches to the SOS. He finsihes with more kills.

Gears is a game about skill. You have to be better than your opponent to win those 1v1 gnasher battles. With the SOS, the skill is removed.

[Shadonic]

wow im a noob ? Ive played and beatin all 3 gears games and i even think its a cheap weapon hands down.

[franko]

Who gives a f**k? I don't use it and i'm not whining when someone kills me with it.

[Winkle92]

Woohoo!!! Awesome news!

[TheColbertinator]

They nerfed the Retro Lancer and we always kicked the ass of those shoddy chumps in the demo.

SOS and Gansher need huge nerfs

[kma2k]

Im glad to hear it, it was runing online to me. It was to the point where it wasnt fun!

[Noticeably_FAT]

I wasn't using it anyway, since the Gnasher was just about the same thing point blank.

[BX81]

Hells yeah!

[IHateYouFanboys]

i think its stupid that theyve changed it this soon, I had no problem with it.

and before anyone says im a noob - level 100 gears 2 says im not, and a 2.4 k/d in gears 3 in over 100 matches of only team deathmatch and wingman (80+ wingmans out of those, its my favourite mode) also says im not.

like the stats show, the casual people that arent very good rely on the sawed-off, whereas the experienced and good players know the value of the Lancer. i havent even hit 100 sawed-off kills yet, but have over 400 lancer kills and probably twice as many lancer downs.

anyone that knows what theyre doing knows how to avoid getting killed by the sawed-off. if you get killed by a charging/rolling sawed-off weilding player, youre just doing it wrong.

[DARK WITNESS]

Thank you...

Personally I think it's no worse then what the Gnasher was in gears 1, except you could not predict who's shots would count because of the network code and host and all that.

Now all the Gnasher noobs are getting a taste of their own crack they don't like it.

any player with a bit of skill will know when to use the lancer when to use the Gnasher and it's not hard at all to counter the Sawed-off.

it's a shame that yet again they have given into the crying wimps, but not surprising I guess.

[m23]

It doesn't really affect me, I stick to the hammerburst and the gnasher. The hammerburst is a great weapon, I've killed enemies from across the map at times. This is no longer a pure shotgun game as some people would like to say.

[0neShot]

The gears multiplayer is still an all shotgun affair. Most maps are close quarters and it's pointless to spray someone with a lancer only to be met by a deadly single shotgun shot. Epic should increase the damage of assault rifles so that this game would really be a shoot out and not to lunge a player for that shotgun kill.

[ECM0NEY]

"Most maps are close quarters"

You have never played Gears 3. Most of the maps have wide open areas and a place or 2 for close combat.

[0neShot]

Really? I'm pretty sure I was playing gears 3 multiplayer using the preorder freebie Commando DOM character and somehow managed to reach level 50 without finishing yet the campaign. "Close quarters" is where most of the deciding kill firefight happens and rarely on medium range is what I mean. There are wider open maps but there are also plenty of cover, but the thing is most of the killing is still done close range (and using any shotguns).

[MellauxGMNG]

Wow, seriously? You must really not be that good at the game if you think the assaullt rifles need ANOTHER damage buff. The assault rifles are already really strong as they are.

If someone is close enough to you to kill you with a single shotgun shot then why dont you have out your shotgun aswell? You cant expect an assault rifle to go up against a shotgun at close range. And that is what I think the problem is with people like you - you want the assault rifles to be able to compete with the shotguns at close range because you cant use them.

Also, gears of war has always centered mainly around close quarters, fast paced combat, and that is 1 of the reasons why it is different from other shooters. If gears played how you wanted it (shoot outs with assault rifles) it will get boring fast, because everyone will be afraid of getting out of cover because of overpowered rifles, and it will turn into a boring camp fest (gears 3 is already going in that direction due to the sawed off and damage buffed assault rifles).

[0neShot]

the double posting is an accidental post.

[BX81]

Is it me or did they lower the amount of xp you get when you play king of the hill? I was getting 4 to 6 thousand a game now I'm only getting 1 to 3.

[MasterD919]

This is good news.

I'm surprised Warzone isn't played more too...I like it better than TDM.

[NoobJobz]

I never have liked Warzone. Not even in Gears 1. It was Execution then and TD now.

[DevilishSix]

if they are gimping the SOS already, why even have the weapon in the game? The point of the SOS in the first place was to give newcomers a fighting chance and to make gnashers users, like me think before we roll in. Gimping the SOS now makes no sense.

Also, gamers complaining about weapons is silly when they should be working on their skills instead. Reason is that every weapon is overpowered or unfair when you get killed by it, lol.

[DevilishSix]

Sorry double post, damn internet connection..