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Jaffe rejects BF3 hate and context-warping

VG247: Following a bizarre internet kerfuffle in which the Eat, Sleep, Play boss was accused of hating on Battlefield 3, David Jaffe has told VG247 he loves DICE and expects the game to be brilliant.

RAZORLAND5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

People can hype BF3 in response to thier hatred of COD (I can actually agree w/it). But what gets me are the people that do it as if they themselves are a more thoughtful, self-actualized gamer; its just one war game vs. another.

Yardie5084d ago

Why was he accused of hating BF3?, because he said great graphics don't automatically make a great game?

For me, the more BF3 gets hyped for it's graphics, the less interested i become, It's the same with games like crysis. If nobody is talking about the gameplay, there is usually a reason.

The enjoyment i had playing the previous BF games, is the only reason i still have this game on preorder.

ASSASSYN 36o5084d ago

Your last sentence is 100% why you shouldn't be disturbed about the hype of bf3's visuals. You know what to expect given your experience. The graphics upgrade should be a bonus if anything.

Yardie5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

I have been fooled many times by assuming a game will be good based on the games before it.
infact i see many games in my collection that were FAR worse than the last game in the series.

BeastlyRig5084d ago

God of war 3 played like God of war 2 see he whould understand he falls under that category..

It only had better graphics..

StanLee5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

@ BeastlyRig

I don't think Jaffe has been involved with the God of War franchise since the first game. That said, Battlefield 3 could look like Left 4 Dead and it would still be hyped to high hell. The problem is, the industry needs a giant killer and Battlefield 3 is their best hope of dethroning current industry giant Call of Duty. It wont. They did the same thing with Battlefield Bad Company 2 against Black Ops last year and look how that turned out.

Ducky5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

"And I also said that until BF3 shows more of its gameplay, that everyone saying BF3 was AMAZING and was GAME OF THE SHOW was both damaging and juvenile and- on the part of journalists who said such things- damaging."

That's about as close as he got to hating BF3... which seems more like he hates the people who praise BF3 rather than the game itself.

The problem with his comments were that he chose to ignore the previous footage of BF3 (the 12 minutes SP footage, the metro trailer, as well as the private demo)
His argument only makes sense if the tank gameplay was the only footage for Bf3, which isn't the case.
Yes, it looks like Battlezone HD, but the hype and anticipation the game is getting isn't due to that trailer alone.

I'll agree with the message behind his argument, but his arguments themselves fall flat because they're not taking into consideration the complete picture.

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Why o why5084d ago

If people look for an issue they'll find one. Never let the truth get in the way of hate fueled comments based off unsubstantiated evidence. Drama sells.

ASSASSYN 36o5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

If I never played a battlefield game, and I hyped it because of a demo showing of the game then I can see his point. But since I played virtually all battlefields available and know what to expect, I can hype it and call it a winner off of visuals and past experience. They all played great and I see no reason to expect that to diminish with bf3. I expect the quality to remain intact. So yes, fps game of what ever show it was displayed at.

Orange Juice5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

@above
Thats the idea. Its bad when journalists and gamers become so comfortable with a series that they hype a new product to oblivion and reward it game of the show even with little to no gameplay footage, solely based on graphics or expectations or nostalgia or rumors or what not. Maybe some felt that more substance was needed and less advertising before we know any features or if it will even work on consoles which is how the vast majority will first play it. Its an understandable concern that will be relived again when GTA5 is announced. I however know that bf3 will be amazing, as will twisted metal.

hatchimatchi5084d ago (Edited 5084d ago )

Jaffe's original statement made complete sense. The problem is that people on the internet forget how to read full articles and they jump to conclusions, especially when they're a fan of something and perceive others as naysayers. Also, it doesn't help when you have all kinds of bedroom operated gamesites that will jump on anything just to get a front page story on n4g.

Seriously, 90% of the stuff on N4G is garbage and these small sites just upload their own "stories" to N4G because they otherwise wouldn't be read. It's a vicious cycle but I continue to come back in hopes for worthy news.

Moral of the story, people need to practice their reading comprehension skills. Some of these sites act like middle school girls gossiping in the bathroom, "OMG Did you hear what Dave Jaffe said!?!?!?!"

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Battlefield 3 Cut Missions From Campaign Detailed by Former DICE Dev

Battlefield 3's former Lead Designer has revealed that there were two cut missions from the main campaign

XiNatsuDragnel164d ago

I wish someone can get those EA game leaks to see all the cut content ngl

anast164d ago

Get rid of campaigns, move the game to mobile, and try to compete with warzone. They would save time and money.

Johnh5223163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Bf4 was fun hope the new bf is just as good.

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God Of War Creator Thinks That The Character Of Kratos Took A Wrong Turn

Terri writes: "In a recent video released by the creator of the God of War series, David Jaffe, we can see that Jaffe is not fond of the direction PlayStation took regarding the franchise, and in particular, Kratos himself."

SinisterMister550d ago

Well, I personally think that Santa Monica did an absolutely phenomenal job with Kratos, showcasing insane character development in all the right ways.

Jin_Sakai550d ago

I disagree. God of War went from a brutal action game where Kratos was slaying gods to a boring father figure. God of War 3 was my favorite in the series.

Christopher550d ago

I much prefer the focused and purposeful with reason Kratos who still gets into brutal combat and still has to kill gods even though he tries not to. Past Kratos was just anger personified and did nothing but subvert any expectations of him being something else other than just rage.

darthv72550d ago

2 is still my favorite. Everything about that game is top shelf design. the scale and scope of things like fighting the colossus of rhodes to awakening the steeds of time... just epic. 3 was good, but 2 is the high point of the original trilogy (for me).

The direction santa monica took for the reboot was less GoW (god of war) and more GoW (gears of war). The whole 3rd person perspective, having a partner (even if its his son), and lack of verticality with no more jumping and creating crazy areal combos... it was difficult to come to terms with but i managed. the story was good though, but i still give the nod to greek mythology over norse (and likely egyptian if that is where they go next).

frostypants550d ago

I can see it either way. I agree that the series now has nothing in common with the original beyond superficial character appearances and general setting. They sort of used the IP to sell an entirely different style of game. That said the new games are well made in their own right.

VivaLaManual550d ago

Yes. The game grew and stopped being one dimensional. What a shame....

DarXyde550d ago

I don't even think Jaffe really understood Kratos, despite creating him. Or rather, he doesn't seem to understand how he created the fertile ground for this kind of character development arc.

He was always a warrior, but he had a very human element since day one. He had a chance to protect his family again in God of War I and Ares took them away... Again. He knows he can't get them back and moved forward as the new God of War. Fast forward, the Gods betrayed him (though he was still sympathetic to Athena at the time). Eventually, he waged war with Olympus.

He was part of the pantheon and that would've been the entirety of his story arc where he oversaw war for all time.

But the truth this, Kratos has changed, but he largely remained the same. His two constants were always pride in his family and revenge against those who have wronged him. You take those two together (a threat to his family and Gods looking to kill him) and the direction he's taken is pretty congruent with who Kratos always has been. I guess you can say Kratos would just be a merciless monster for the sake of it, but the old games never explore present aspects of the character (e.g., what kind of father Kratos was). We got a look at that, and with a boy, no less.

I find the franchise did well to age with the audience. I was an angry teen when the original came out. Now I'm kinda mellowed out with a family and I just get it.

I think it did an excellent job of connecting with the audience as we grew up. It's a bit like Toy Story in that regard.

Monstieur550d ago (Edited 550d ago )

Agree. I liked GoW 3 the best as well. There weren't enough unique boss fights in the reboot.

Crows90550d ago (Edited 550d ago )

Well he aged considerably. Define boring father figure exactly? Maybe your father was boring but don't put that blame on others.

As far as slaying gods ...you're right ...he went from god slaying to....hmmm god slaying.

The newer Kratos matured with the audience. They could have just kept doing the same game over and over but they saw it getting stale so they had to switch the formula...they did so incredibly well.

SinisterMister549d ago

While God of War 3 is undoubtedly excellent in its own manner, the "boring father figure" part is something I don't agree with. For starters, if the situation calls for it, the old Kratos is back on camera, like when he fights against a particular Aesir god in Ragnarok.

tombfan549d ago

He achieved his goal... he actually got the revenge he was so desperately needing and in the end what? It'd be terrible character development if he would just go to another mythology to kill more gods just for the sake of they being gods. They actually gave them a meaning in life, and even better, they got an amazing idea of how to create a new game with actual bealavility and a plot, not just merciless kill.

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savedsynner550d ago

Agree 100% Kratos had about an inch of depth before the norse version. Now he feels like a real character, a real dad, with real reactions based on his experiences.

gold_drake550d ago

i think they did a fantastic job with Kratos.

Snookies12550d ago

Wasn't Jaffe the one who got stuck on something easy in Metroid Dread and started bashing the game because of it? From what I played of GoW 2018, they actually gave Kratos some much-needed depth. I definitely plan to finally go through the newer entries once my PS5 comes in.

tombfan549d ago

Jaffe got stuck with his young mind thinking and it really showed with his latest attempt in gaming "Drawn to Death" it was like a teenage dream that became true and also, sucked.

Christopher550d ago

This whole video was essentially him finding comments to back up his own opinion. "It looks like a lot of people think..."

Yeah, well what do the review scores, sales, user scores, and completion rates on the last two say? Anything on that?

Reaper22_549d ago

Nothing wrong with his opinion. He created it so he's earned the right to criticize. Review scores and sales have nothing to do with it. It's success was never in question.

Christopher549d ago

You should probably read the first part of my comment. He's cherry picking opinions to support his but ignoring the plethora of other opinions.

Yeah, he's allowed his opinion, but his arguing method is to act like people just agree with him and not the diverse opinions out there on the subject.

-Foxtrot550d ago (Edited 550d ago )

People won’t like it I know but he’s entitled to his opinion being the games creator

I totally disagree but it’s not going to ruin the game for us who do like it

purple101550d ago

Yeh I may or may not disagree but he created the original and without him we would have no god of war, (or maybe one that wasn’t as good). So he can say what he wants in my books

Last I heard of him he made a black ad white game with a weird sketch art style. Similar to Sega Madworld

Haven’t heard from him since
Shame

itBourne550d ago

Drawn to Death, yeh, played it at the Playstation experience, it was quite fun, an old school arena shooter. Then it came out, and everyone died quicker, so strafe battles gone. It essentially turned into die, insta spawn, use ult, get a kill, they insta spawn, ult you, you die, and just repeat that loop lmao, its was terrible.

Christopher550d ago

I just have a problem with him saying they shouldn't have called it God of War because his opinion doesn't align with theirs on the future of the IP. That part I felt was pointedly petty.

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Battlefield Needs the Glory Days of BF3 and Bad Company 2 Back

Whether it comes through remakes or a new game with a similar style, DICE should aim to revive the glory days of Battlefield 3 and Bad Company 2.

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masterfox949d ago

hmmm I think there will be no old BF glory days for EA since they are loyal to their greediness and laziness :D

Knightofelemia949d ago

You're asking for a miracle with EA that will never happen unless they can exploit the money making schemes behind it.

MadLad949d ago

We'll see what happens now that Zampella is overlooking the series.

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Father__Merrin949d ago

Anyone that wants to plat bf3 you can still go ahead and play it

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