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TGH: SOCOM 4 Review

TGH Writes: SOCOM: U.S. Navy Seals has been handed back over to Zipper Interactive. Since SOCOM: Confrontation was a failure to many, people waited for Zipper Interactive to bring the next SOCOM game. Well, it’s finally here as SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy Seals for U.S. or SOCOM 4: Special Forces in PAL areas. It has been quite a while since we last saw Zipper Interactive working on a SOCOM title. So does their hard work pay off at the end of day? Or will this mission of bringing back SOCOM become a failure once more? Find out in this review of SOCOM 4.

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ShadyDevil4778d ago

I might pick this title up but I dont know a lot of the reviews are average or below. Is it even worth it?

nycredude4778d ago (Edited 4778d ago )

Shadydevil

Seriously don't listen to the reviews. The sp is way better than the reviews say and way longer also. I had a chance to play the coop with some friends for hours the day psn went down. It is freaking fun as hell and very challenging. the competitive mp I haven't tried but it's more than likely good also. Non of these reviewers have had a chance to play it post release so if they say anything about the mp it is on the beta, which is unprofessional.

My advice is to not let the reviews make your decision. oh I forgot if you have a 3d tv the 3d is better than Killzone 3.

Fanofgaming
it's socom, and while some may not like it, there will always be a dedicated fanbase who will continue to play it. heck there are still people who play confrontation and MAG, which reviewers say sucked. IMO MAG rocked!

Knushwood Butt4778d ago

I really like the sp, but recommend you play it on Hard or Elite. Normal is way too easy, and you don't even need to bother commanding your squad because you can take out most of the enemies yourself.

Play on the higher difficulties to get the full experience.

Nicaragua4778d ago

OK, well i'll offer a different viewpoint to the guy above.

The single player is very average. There are a few stealth based missions which are quite decent but other than that its nothing special and each mission is quite short - also the voice acting is terrible.

The multiplayer is ok but has a few niggly problems which have put me off. The camera sometimes zooms into your characters back for some reason, there is no party system at all, the clan system dosnt work, voice comms sometimes work and sometimes dont, and if you watch someone else in agame when you have died then it will take around an extra 10 - 20 seconds for you to spawn in the next round.

I was really looking forward to this game for playing with my clan but we are all really pissed off with it. The multiplayer just feels shoddy and the campaign alone isnt worth the price of the game.

There is a patch due next month which should fix some of these issues.

BattleAxe4778d ago

@ShadyDevil

Don't bother with this game, Zipper gutted this game of all the game modes that made it great in the past, and the game play is very similar to MW2 3rd Person mode, but sadly MW2 does a far better job. The big problem is that Zipper decided not to listen to the community, and they've taken the franchise in a completely different direction, and by most of the reviews, you can see that they took the game in the wrong direction.

I have a feeling that they will be going back to their roots with a Socom 2/3/CA type of game since they've experienced a massive backlash from the fans of the series and game reviewers alike. As much as I was disappointed with Socom: Confrontation, its a much better Socom game than Socom 4 and its alot cheaper now, so if you're looking for a tactical 3rd person shooter to play then I would go that route. An even better choice would be to pick up Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 which has a good single player campaign, a few different online co-op modes and around 14 multiplayer maps. Usually you can find it around where i live in Vancouver for around $19.00.

Unfortunately we just haven't gotten a really good Socom game this generation, but I hoping that after the ass woopin that Socom 4 took in the reviews and the backlash from the core Socom community, that we'll get a real Socom game next time around.

FanOfGaming4778d ago

Meh if the competitive community lasts at least 3 more weeks, I'll consider purchasing it

MidnytRain4778d ago

Less popular multiplayer games have lasted more than three weeks.

DirtyLary4778d ago

all my socom friends are already back to COD:BO. I see no one playing S4 but me.

ilikestuff4778d ago

then your socom friends shouldnt be called socom friends, even with all the issues the "socrack" players are complaining about this game still leaps over black ops, story is better and longer, coop is pretty awesome, multiplayer (classic) takes skill and is exciting, when your the last one alive and you gotta kill three people. socom 4 has its issues, you'd have to be blind not to see that but it is an awesome game

DirtyLary4778d ago

Disagree on alot of your points. But it's Socom you want to like this game with the same title, I understand so did I.

sickbird4778d ago

@ilikestuff, the game takes no skill unlike old socoms. I cant tell you how many times i've gotten headshot'd from random spray. The game sucks, its not SOCOM and old school fans have pretty much already given up on it.

MidnytRain4778d ago (Edited 4778d ago )

@wolfam1

You're a good sprayer.

What would normally keep a player from getting headshots in another game?

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Apocwhen4778d ago

How does the PS Move perform in this game? Better or worse than the DS3 controller?

Trroy4778d ago (Edited 4778d ago )

It's excellent. Best Move shooter so far. IMO, its better than the DS3 in single player. In multiplayer, you need to practice alot with it, and the DS3 will probably always be better in close quarters, where the Move shines at medium to long range.

Knushwood Butt4778d ago

Agree. It's sweet with the Move, and 3D is nice and crisp too.

Rob9464778d ago

Im still not to sure about this game. Loved Socom on the PSP but i wasn't a fan of this games beta, will probably get it after Infamous 2 and a few other games.

sickbird4778d ago

I'm not touching the game until they add the party system. The game is useless without it.

dirtrider4778d ago (Edited 4778d ago )

well said, but the game needs a little more than just that also. i hope that the poor/average reviews, and the over all backlash that zipper is receiving over this game lasts, so maybe they will eventually listen to their fans when making another "socom" game.

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Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises

Alex S. from Link-Cable writes: "Gaming’s past is full of wonderful memories, many of which include some of our favorite moments in all of video games and helped shape our current gaming habits. And, thanks to the awesomeness that is the PlayStation, many of these memories can be found in Sony’s franchises. But what happens when a great franchise or IP just disappears? While sometimes its just forgotten, never to be heard from again that’s not something that we here at Link-Cable can bear the thought of. So for this week’s Top 10 we are taking a look at the Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises and also crossing our fingers that someone with the power to bring these back just happens to stumble across this list."

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PhoenixUp2320d ago

Don’t forget Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, Legend of Dragoon, Freedom Wars, Invisimals, Lemmings, Modnation Racers, Pursuit Force, Resistance, Siren, Soul Sacrifice, Mark of Kri, & Wild Arms

darthv722320d ago

To be fair, many of those are not forgotten. They just ran their course while others were not given the respect they deserved to garner a continuation. Games that are one-offs probably had no intention of making them into series but I do wish they would rethink that. Some deserve to be given a follow-up.

UltraNova2320d ago

Agreed. Maybe Sony can contract Bluepoint to remaster Heavenly Sword, see people's reaction to the game and decide wether to give the go for a sequel.

Also Lair can be remastered es as a PSVR game and take it from there.

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Michiel19892320d ago (Edited 2320d ago )

Legacy of Kain would fit right in there, although sony has no rights to that IP as far as I'm aware.

Ah later instalments were not sony exclusive, so dont mind me sir :p

Xenophon_York2320d ago

Remaking the very first Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen would be amazing.

MWH2320d ago (Edited 2320d ago )

Maybe one day the coin will land on its edge.

Michiel19892320d ago

I'd prefer Soul Reaver but Blood Omen would do just fine as well

Godmars2902320d ago

To be fair, Wild Arms did run its course, was effectively run into the ground, going by example of last entry using characters from all games. Being an STG title on the PSP.

Could always revive the western/steampunk setting.

_-EDMIX-_2320d ago

I know right! I'm still waiting for someone at Sony to make the Getaway 3 lol

I always wondered what the PlayStation 3 version was going to be like.

SuperSonic912319d ago

CTR Remake please. Best kart racer ever made by Naughty Dog

Rangerman12082319d ago

Finally someone mentioned Soul Sacrifice, Siren, Legend of Dragoon, and Freedom Wars. Those games are in desperate of a new installment. Especially with Folkore.

Sitdown2319d ago

Lemmings is a PlayStation franchise? I would say Battle Arena Toshinden.

frostypants2319d ago

Lemmings was a franchise waaaaay before even the PS1 saw the light of day. Nobody's forgotten it.

thisismyaccount2319d ago

and ALUNDRA .. dunno if it´s a Sony IP or not.

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GBG_Jason2320d ago

I'm not sure single games would be considered franchises. If you want to say Heavenly Sword is one, I'd also put Enslaved on the list. Loco Roco is in the same boat as Patapon. But things like Tomba are certainly missed.

GBG_Jason2320d ago

Never mind me, you are absolutely correct.

Kleptic2320d ago

yeah, it was the Ninja Theory (same dev as HS), just not a ps3 exclusive

Michiel19892320d ago

It was a good game though, I wouldnt mind seeing a sequel at some point

Yui_Suzumiya2320d ago

There was going to be a sequel to Enslaved. Unfortunately it never left the drawing board. Hopefully someday it will be realized.

jznrpg2320d ago

Enslaved was super undervalued, loved that game

UltraNova2319d ago

....and in dire need of a Remaster!

FallenAngel19842320d ago

How can you all something a franchise if it only has one installment?

At that point it’s just an IP. You can only call it a franchise when there’s multiple installments.

SamPao2320d ago

you should look up the definition of a franchise.
If there is more than just a game, say merchandise its already a franchise.

_-EDMIX-_2320d ago

I understand what the Fallen is trying to say, simply saying how could you suggest a game with only one installment as a franchise in regards to a series in terms of multiple games.

Even though, yes franchise can be considered what you stated in this context that's not really what's being talked about.

SamPao2319d ago

yet still its what he was talking about. Maybe nexttime you should say "series"...

SurgicalMenace2320d ago

Legend of Dragoon? Sly Cooper?

Araragifeels 2320d ago

Sly Cooper is not forgotten. They even making a TV show, I am hoping they Remake the first 3 games from scratch like Ratchet & Clank did.

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Araragifeels 2320d ago

@DJK1NG_Gaming I didn't mention the movie because probably got cancelled since Ratchet & Clank movie flop and Sony might not take another chance but Sly Cooper is having it own TV series.

FallenAngel19842320d ago

Sly Cooper is getting a television series. Sony hasn’t forgotten about it

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Games to Play if You Miss SOCOM

Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
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LOOK_AT_THIS_I2497d ago

Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.

With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.

ONESHOTV22497d ago

the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC

USMC_POLICE2497d ago

You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour

Majin-vegeta2497d ago

Army training grounds its F2P.

ion6662496d ago

Insurgency Socom mod perfect adaption. Play it

C-H-E-F2496d ago

RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.

Also, in response to @lookatthisi

They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I2496d ago

No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.

FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.

(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)

C-H-E-F2496d ago

Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.

I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.

InTheZoneAC2495d ago

A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.

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Dear Sony – It’s time to revive SOCOM

Sean @ FG: "Dear Sony, We need to talk about SOCOM."

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Neonridr2536d ago

Aim Controller support too, heck just throw in VR while we are at it.

Neonridr2536d ago

to which one? You wouldn't like to be able to use the aim controller for socom? Using a dual shock is more believable?

And why can't VR be an option? I never said to make the game VR exclusive did I?

Silly gameAr2536d ago

No to both. If Socom comes back it needs to come back in all of it's old school glory.

Neonridr2536d ago

@Silly gameAr - so not giving people options is the way to go? I mean if you are so against the aim controller couldn't you just use a dual shock instead? Maybe I am asking too much to have choices to suit different play styles.

Kribwalker2536d ago

I agree liquid. Make it like old school socom. I wanna hide claymores in the grass again 😎

Silly gameAr2536d ago

It's good to have options, but those options just wouldn't suit a game like Socom.

XisThatKid2536d ago

Bring MAG back instead. Zippers last successful game

JackBNimble2536d ago

Not this shit again... you socom fans need to move on

morganfell2536d ago

I want the biggest challenge again - win Enowapi as a SEAL in Breach Mode.

Liqu1d2536d ago

@Neonridr No to both.

Socom 4 allowed you to use the PS Move, it was trash and a waste of development time. They could do a VR firing range or something and I'm sure it would be alright, but if Socom is going to return then they need to stick to basics and provide what fans of the franchise liked. Pointless additions like aim controller and VR support will only bloat development costs and make a revival more risky.

Skull5212536d ago

SOCOM was easily the best franchise on PlayStation, it is sad what has happened to it. I do however have a bad taste in my mouth after SOCOM 4 coming out then PSN immediately hacked and offline for a month... Still to this day I do not trust Sony with my credit card information.

sonarus2536d ago

Big yes to socom will pass on the vr tho

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USMC_POLICE2536d ago

They did that with move on ps3, it was absolutely horrible. Then again all of socom 4 was a train wreck.

Neonridr2536d ago

meh, would never hurt to give options. Move on PS3 was absolutely horrible because the camera sucked real bad. Fairpoint accuracy with the Aim Controller is picked up quite well.

Der_Kommandant2536d ago

No thanks, SOCOM 4 with move was the worst thing ever. The game was bad and that thing made it even worse.

SOCOM Confrontation was decent though.

XisThatKid2536d ago

Wasn't made by zipper it was a glitch mess and people hated on it until people didn't know what they had until it was gone. Then we got SOCOM 4. :(

madforaday2536d ago

Socom Confrontation was GREAT 6 months after the release of the game. Also, once they added the stupid Tilly that was when I quit. I tend to not complain about guns but the Tilly was a sniper rifle/shotgun. That gun was more broken than the IW-80 in Socom 2.

Liqu1d2536d ago

@madforaday That's when I quit as well. Pretty much everyone was using Tilly.

Movefasta19932536d ago

Confrontation was my first socom game and I loved it dearly...I would love a remaster of that if Sony aren't that bothered

madforaday2536d ago

@Liqu1d

Yeah, it was awful I remember in Blizzard you will have people camping with the Tilly and rushing with the TIlly, it was soo annoying.

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madforaday2536d ago

That is THE worst idea for a Socom type game. You can have the option of course, but no one will use it because a controller will take you down so easily.

WeAreLegion2536d ago

No, it won't. Even on Socom 4, the Move guys were owning the controller guys. It's much faster. Why would you think a controller is faster?

madforaday2536d ago

@WeAreLegion

HAHAH I really hope you are kidding I am sure the 20 people who were using it were owning with it lol ;)

madforaday2536d ago

Also, On VR I don't know how many 3rd person view games there are but I think that would be weird in VR having a guy right in front of you. If you make it 1st person you would be at an unfair advantage compared to the people who aren't.

WeAreLegion2536d ago

3rd person works really well in VR. Maybe games have it.

Movefasta19932536d ago

Socom is for the hardcore/competitive gamer,focus on making a great mp game first then add the bullshit for people who want it

LP-Eleven2536d ago

Yeah.....no.

OT: I'd be all for it! SOCOM is still one of those franchises that a "hidden gem" feel to it!

XanderZane2536d ago

Meh..
Dear Sony, it's time to revive Syphon Filter.

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Kribwalker2536d ago

One of my favourite games on the ps2. Socom 1/2 got a lot of playtime by me. This one, madden football and ssx3 were my first foray into online console gaming

81BX2536d ago

No sh!t. I was just looking up socom 4 videos last night lol

hit173882536d ago

Yes, slant six did better than them last time. Socom 4 was horrible. confrontation was the last good socom. Well after patches .

Sunny_D2536d ago

I remember that... the load times were haunting.

SolidDuck2536d ago

Not just normal patches. Like a year and half worth of patches. After that it was pretty good.

XisThatKid2536d ago (Edited 2536d ago )

Lol where you there during beta it was absolutely hilarious. GOD I miss that game.....i miss MAG too

81BX2536d ago

Confrontation had the best sounds in any shooter at the time.

luis_spartano2536d ago

Slant Six was shut down a while ago.

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SquidBuck2535d ago

Let's all write Sony that we want Mag 2! Let's make it happen!!! Come on people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hit173882536d ago

Yes to this. It's time look how well battlegrounds is doing. 3rd person shooters are doing a comeback and it's the only game PS4 is missing to make my dream list complete since monster Hunter already is coming and we have crash and a few other classics coming back.

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