Sony sued for PlayStation Network data breach

Like clockwork, the first lawsuit resulting from the security breach of the personal data of more than 75 million Sony PlayStation Network customers has been filed.

The suit was filed today on behalf of Kristopher Johns, 36, of Birmingham, Ala., in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. Johns accuses Sony of not taking "reasonable care to protect, encrypt, and secure the private and sensitive data of its users."

[rajman]

Now more will follow...

[averyzoe]

Oh, definitely. I was honestly surprised there haven't been more filed already.

[Soldierone]

There will be. People use our court system to the fullest of their ability. They will sue each other for breathing air if they have the money to do so.

Sony is an easy target right now, more people will follow trying to make a quick buck.

[news4me]

I'm sick of childish people feeling "entitled" to something. Obviously they are trying to protect their consumers. This is ridiculous.

[Eamon]

A lawsuit is justified only if Sony didn't fulfil the legal requirements in protecting user's private data.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there's now an investigation by ICO in UK to see if Sony did or did not fulfil these requirements.

Anyhow, all of what's happening at the moment is definitely not good for Sony.

[gamingdroid]

Sony sort of deserved a lawsuit for negligence.

"Birmingham, Alabama resident Kristopher Johns has filed a lawsuit against Sony for failing to “protect, encrypt, and secure the private and sensitive data of its users.”"

I said it before and I'm saying it now, standard practice (and essentially common sense now a days) tell you to hash the password with a salt. If you have to have the original password stored, then encrypt the password with private-public key-pair and guard that private key with your life. That said, there is no reason Sony should keep the original password. NONE!

That is web programming 101! If it was hashed or the private key was kept private, your password wouldn't be in the hands of hackers right now.

In this case, Sony was negligent, more than 70 millions of peoples information and needs to be sued to send a message to ACT RESPONSIBLY!

[TheDeadMetalhead]

This guy doesn't really stand a chance in court, does he?

[Christopher]

***I said it before and I'm saying it now, standard practice (and essentially common sense now a days) tell you to hash the password with a salt. If you have to have the original password stored, then encrypt the password with private-public key-pair and guard that private key with your life. That said, there is no reason Sony should keep the original password. NONE! ***

And there is no proof that Sony has done any of this... Only online ranting and speculation.

[goalweiser]

@gamingdroid

You are hilarious.

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DATA! Not Sony.

YOU VOLUNTEERED YOUR INFO. Sony did not steal it from you.

YOU USED SONY'S FREE SERVICE. Now you and every jackal looking to point a finger can get lost. Go to Xbox Live, pay your fee, and then wait for somebody to bring down that network.

Nobody is safe online. Anybody could hack into your computer right now regardless of your protections and who are you going to blame? It's your ISP's fault. It's the computer manufacturer's fault. It's Norton's fault too because they failed to block all the viruses like they said.

WAKE UP. You have the power to prevent all this. Don't use PSN. Don't use your computer. Don't go online at all.

It's too bad Sony can't counter-sue for ignorance because I would line every one of you up and make you sure you never bought a new Sony product again.

For geez sake, hackers broke into the Pentagon, banks, and other major corporations. You think Sony or Microsoft for that matter could prevent it?

Seriously...wake up.

[Anon1974]

Yeah, best of luck to them trying to prove that Sony didn't take reasonable measures to protect your personal information.

Typical US, sue-happy mentality. Before the facts are even known - SUE!

I think this Weird Al song adequately sums up what's going on here.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Heartnet]

yeh but i doubt they will win since in the ToS itll say sumin bout there not liable or sumin lol

and as soon as 1 fails they all fail since they can use that one case as proof that theyve not dont anything wrong

however if they lose then.. people will be sueing sony left right and centre then Psn will never be back up :(

[DelbertGrady]

Isn't it Sonys responsibility to keep PSN safe and secure?

A network with 75 million users should have security that matches its size and complexity. I'm sure there are best practises for that.

[-Alpha]

I was reading about how Sony didn't do some encryption or something. I have no knowledge of this whatsoever, but these lawsuits scare me (as a fan of course-- can't help but be pulled in to the "Sony is doomed" hysteria).

Thing with Sony, as far as I am reading, is that they "went in with their laces tied, but without a helmet" so to speak. I'm not sure if that's accurate, but Sony really should have taken down the PSN after the hack and worked to rebuild it then instead of waiting now.

Again, there is a whole lot of speculation in the air, it's become impossible to gather accurate information, but why didn't Sony take down PSN before the hack to reinforce their security?

It seems to me that in general, security isn't up to standard with hackers, there seems to be a serious vulnerability for so much information for even the government, NASA, etc

[I_find_it_funny]

In my opinion Sony screwed up big time with security and they will pay severly.

PSN is down for a week in a few hours (dow for me since Thursday morning). It is a disaster. It was supposed to be fixed in two days, over the holidays, but holidays are gone.

Ale we have are "we have no updates" updates.

[Raptura]

Sorry, but gamingdroid is correct and goalweiser, you don't know what you're talking about.

Sony, as the corporation as it is, owes a duty of care to each and every customer who offers them their personal information, including their credit card and passwords. It's Sony's duty to keep that information within the organization and do its best to keep that information from becoming public.

Because they failed to keep the info safe, they've become negligent. Anyone affected by this has the right to sue Sony for this breach. It doesn't matter who got the information, how they got it, or why they got it. What matters to you and the case of negligence is that Sony had your information and it was made public.

[sikbeta]

One thing I want to know, If it's proven that PSN was secure and stuff, the hackers, groups of whatever people that did this crap can get involved into this, or it's just Sony? then again, if the douches hide under the interwebz no one can find them, so it can go trough a bigger investigation... nah, it's just win or lose against Sony and the people who did this crap, will be clean and untouchables...

[jjohan35]

A few points after reading the article:

-Is ID theft that easy without your social security number (or equivalent in your country)? Sony has never asked us to submit our social security numbers.

-Why is he demanding monetary compensation? Has he lost any money? If it's possible to have identity theft without social security, I can understand wanting free credit report, but monetary compensation?? What a greedy mofo!

[AyeGee]

@gamingdroid

Sony is kind of at fault though.. they should have encrypted our information from the get go, and i'm guessing they didn't. It was all in plain text, like what you see here, with no spaces.

It's a stupid lawsuit, but think of it like this. It's like a bank leaving its vault open, and then locking a glass door to keep people out. All you have to do is break the glass door.

[HappyGaming]

I have 5 PSN account so can I sue them 5 times :D

jk

This seems pretty extreme...
why sue?
Just call you bank to send you a new card within a week everything will be back to normal.

The only people that should be sueing are the banks which may have to print and post about 50 million new bank cards and pins...

[Kurt Russell]

I would sue if I was personally effected. If not there is no basis.

I do however feel let down and will only be using PSN shop bought cards for future purchases. My faith in their security over my details has diminished, which is only fair.

[Dee_91]

thank cgoodno
gamingdroid keeps going on about sony not encrypting the password when even the hackers chat log hinted that they were indeed encrypted

you keep talking about common sense and saying how easy it would be to encrypt the passwords

wouldnt common sense tell you that if it was that easy they would have done it ?

stop spreading lies to fuel your dumb arguement

you were blaiming sony even before the info about the cc and personal info being breached

@raptura theres no actual proof that anyone info was stolen
sony said it COULLD have been stolen they dont know if it actually was
the guy suing didnt even lose any money hes just like everybody here hes just speculating and assuming things

@ above
yea thats why i hope that the new master key rumor was true because if it wasnt for that getting stolen in the 1st place the ps3 would still be unhacked right now

and its crazy that some of the same people mad at sony for taking other os off are mad at sony now
if other os was still on this wouldve happened eventually

[awi5951]

the group did the hacking said sony lied and that said they stole credit card information so the fbi could arrest them. If they did really lie then sony will face another lawsuit for false arrest and lying to police.

[gamingdroid]

"And there is no proof that Sony has done any of this... Only online ranting and speculation."

Actually, it is derived from Sony's own press release. Sony specifically said, the passwords were taken. If the password was hashed/encrypted, that information is useless and the passwords wouldn't be considered taken!

Clearly the breach is severe to the point where almost all the information stored is accessed. Even if you design your server environment correctly, the only way to breach is to hack every layer (and potentially over multiple servers). That's relatively difficult to do.

@GrandTheftZamboni:
"PCI (payment card industry) standard requires that credit card numbers aren't present in clear (readable) format on servers. There are even some credit card issuers that choose not to comply with this requirement."

That is why many large corporations don't store the data themselves, but employ a third party company to do it for them. Not only are they specialist that deals with this ongoing, but it's easy to point the finger at them too when sh!t hit's the fan!

[Anarki]

This will not work. Their eula states they're not liable for loss of data.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

PCI (payment card industry) standard requires that credit card numbers aren't present in clear (readable) format on servers. There are even some credit card issuers that choose not to comply with this requirement.

I don't think there is a requirement by this standard to hide other data, such as name, address etc.

But, the US has some crafty lawyers that can sue gun manufacturers for not preventing a kid from taking dad's gun and shooting a brother (true case).

[nveenio]

He's not going to win because he filed the lawsuit without cause. Before you disagree, you should know that he has no idea how Sony transmits that information. If they were meeting PCI compliance, then this dude is SOL.

[ABizzel1]

It's truly an unfortunate situation. I don't see him having a case, yes there was a breach, and his and everyone else information may be available, but from what we've seen so far Sony has done everything they can to prevent this threat, that's including the GeoHotz case, which now shows proof of why Sony wanted to keep hackers away.

I can't see him or anyone else for that matter winning a case in court, they need to thoroughly read the Terms of agreement, and make sure that Sony didn't violate the terms themselves, to make sure they're accountable for the corruption. And they also need to make sure they didn't agree to anything preventing them from suing Sony for such an event.

If they did agree then it could make the battle that much longer and harder to win. I completely understand why so many people are upset and worried, but the chance of someone stealing your identity is literally 1 in 70,000,000.

It's a completely unfortunate situation, and if anyone needs to be sued it's the people responsible for the hack, and the individual(s) who decided to use one code for everything PS3 related.

[baodeus]

Nonetheless, this situation is pretty serious. Sony could have handle it a little bit better to lessen these catastrophe.

@goalweiser

1. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DATA! Not Sony
- So u are saying that i should give Sony all the informations as required for transaction or purchase on PSN (Sony ask for these informations), but they have no responsibility at all in securing those informations? It is like going to the bank where they have your money, important personnel info, but they don't have to secure those informations so if those information leaks, it is your responsibility. Why the fuck do i go to a bank for? What the fuck are u thinking?

2. You volunteer your information:
- so how else can i purchase anything online with CC for example, when Sony required those informations in order for me to do so on PSN?

3. YOU USED SONY'S FREE SERVICE
- Free as in you have a psn user name and password to let u in on psn for games. Like on n4g for blogging. But your personnel informations aren't part of that when u purchase something on psn. So u are saying because it is free, they don't have to secure your personnal information and can give it out for free as well? Again, what the fuck are u thinking.

4. WAKE UP. You have the power to prevent all this. Don't use PSN. Don't use your computer. Don't go online at all.
- then why the fuck do i need to buy a ps3 for?

I can't believe u got 41 agrees either.

I really think u need to wake the fuck up seriously before telling others.

I don't know what make me more angry, Sony negligence and hackers, or stupid comments like these on n4G?

[KDubyah]

Are you kidding or what? I did not see no sarcasm tag, so .. I guess not.
Sony is responsible for your data if it is stored on their servers.
Once it is on their servers, if it's stolen, it's definitely their fault.

If we go by your statement, then here is a little example for you.
It's like you giving me your car, to have it stored in my garage ..
A thief decides to walk in my garage and take your car, who's fault?
You would think mine, huh? Cause it's in my house, my garage. Right?
But, no no, by what you say, you're responsible for what happens to the car.
So, it's not my fault it was taken, I shouldn't need to protect it, right?

Wrong. You see how stupid that sounded?
Sony Servers, Sony's Responsibility..

[Fire1792]

@news4me
Agreed!

[XRider]

Before you guys jump to defend (too late) remember personal credit card info was leaked. It's Sony's job to secure that info. If this was MS or Nintendo it would be the same.

[Lord_Doggington]

Kdub!

Are you Kdub from the podcast? what the hell are you doing in the comments section of an article?

lol

[zag]

I wonder if that case is from Anon, After all they are looking after Sony's customers lives.

[morganfell]

"...i'm guessing they didn't."

And there is the problem. Everyone from journalists, pretend journalists, to gamers are taking a guess and running with it as fact. Above me I see several people state they are not sure of the truth...but then they turn around in the same post and state Sony is to blame. Draw your own conclusions about such convoluted reasoning.

Xrider, you are acting in a typical fashion. There is zero proof CC info was leaked. We have stories posted on N4G where an 'anonymous' person states he lost 200 dollars to hackers. No name and only 200 dollars. Yes that sounds believable.

[killer88snake]

@KDubyah
It's like you giving me your car, to have it stored in my garage ..
A thief decides to walk in my garage and take your car, who's fault?

Not just that. You left the garage door open, and the car-keys inside the car as well.

[Saladfax]

Something very important to note that a few people have brought up:

It does not matter what Sony's EULA states if negligence can be proven on their part. Agreements are always two-sided, and it may not be directly alluded to in the EULA itself, but Sony can still be liable in spite of the agreement.

Think of it like a skiing trip. You sign a waver saying you won't sue if injured or whatever during the course of the trip. However, if your instructor/guide was drunk or the equipment could be proven to be unsafe or substandard, they weren't providing the promised service.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

more will follow and most likely this will go Federal and all will get lumped into one class action lawsuit.

[tawak]

"more will follow" - yes, "easy money"

[MRMagoo123]

but they wont win all sony has to do is prove they took security measures like encrypting and thats that and it would also seem the logs say they where encrypted.

[IcarusOne]

MRMagoo, you are incorrect.

A large part of his suit pertains to Sony's severely delayed response in informing consumers about the breach. It is immaterial whether or not Sony is compliance with industry security measures. The data was stolen nonetheless, and Sony sat on that precious gem instead of letting us know. And that could easily make them liable for damages.

[TurismoGTR]

Is this a NIGHTMARE???????? Can we please just get pass this and get back to gaming?

[ERMAC_]

In time. When this site is done spamming they same articles over and over you can sell T-shirts saying "I was there...at the PSN outage."

Could make up for those millions of dollars these hackers will steal :B

[Larry L]

Look at all the disagrees people get with level headed comments like yours and all the agrees posts negative towards Sony gets on articles like these.

Funny, fanboys all over the interwebz call N4G a site full of nothing buy PS3 fanboys. Looks quite the opposite to me. And they all just seem to click the disagree button, not make any decent arguments.

The fact is, this site has fanboys of all kinds. And depending on what kind of headlines are making the gaming news, decides on which fanboys come out of the woodwork. When there's possitive PS3 news, PS3 fanboys are the ones commenting all the time. When it's negative PS3 news like this PSN dealie, the 360 fanboys are the ones that come out in droves.

[Muerte2494]

Unfortunately, no my friend. This isn't any different from a crackhead slipping on a wet floor, even though there is a sing there. I already know how this is going to end. Sony cannot be held liable for this simply because it was a external attack. It's like trying to sue the U.S. government because a terrorist stole your information. Pandora is going through something similar right now. But the difference is Pandora, themselves, were leaking people information. This is a known risk you take anytime you put your credit card information online.

[Clarence]

I agree. All I can say is blame the hackers. When the hackers get caught idiots send them money to help with court fees and cheer them on for cracking Sony security. Now that your information may have been stolen, people are mad at Sony.

[R0me]

Nono, right now there is something different going on. Normally I am pro Sony, but I also study law and when there will be proof that Sony didnt save our information good enough, common sense starts the fight against fanboy. Seriously some comments are pathetic: Like dont use psn etc.

They must obey the law, even ICO is nervous and starts proving. They must protect our data with a good system that is what counts. If they protected good enough and still all information got leaked, its alright.

If they didnt protect good, but swear the new psn will have good security and show facts. I will trust them again.

We should wait until we get facts of how they treated our data, only then i will judge.

[HappyGaming]

75 million bored PSN users with no network have jumped on N4G just let us spam we will be out as soon as PSN is fixed :P

[darx]

They will all get lumped into one class action lawsuit.

[JLeVRT]

ppl are too lawsuit trigger happy...

[diatom]

Idiot will need show damages to file a civil case or he is going to be writing a check to Sony's lawyers for wasting their time.

Whats with all the BS stories from this website?

[Max_Dissatisfaction]

Its not serious, it will blow over. - what every SONY fan has been saying since ps3 was hacked last year

[IcarusOne]

So if it hasn't blown over since last year - in fact the story keeps getting bigger; for example, npr wasn't covering it before, now they are. So if it hasn't blown over yet, at what point does it become serious?

This is the biggest online outage in the history of online. This is the biggest hack in the history of hacks (77 million users). Sony's stock price has already dropped 3 points and it's going to drop more before this is over. And this will end up costing them millions of dollars to fix.

So I'll ask again: when does it become serious?

[nsnsmj]

Unfortunately, yep.

On a slightly unrelated note, I happen to live in Bham, AL. This is quite amusing to me that the first person to sue (apparently) is from here.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

I think they may have a strong case here. Problem is Sony is trying to keep up with a for pay service like XBL without the income of a service like XBL.

Sony is forced to cut costs and do things on the cheap, including things like not having enough layers of security.

[MRMagoo123]

lol the case will be a win for sony i can guarantee it

[Raiden]

lol, I agree Sony is missing out on a 2.3billion income a year because that is what MS makes on it's XBL. So having a dedicated team on call 24/7 is important. Sony have to cut cost because they are not receiving this kind of income. You can't just rely on the system to autodetect hacking you need to have a team on monitoring your servers too. Good luck to all my friends and foes on PS3 i hope your network returns soon. back to my XBL

[Muffins1223]

lol

[Lykon]

ughhh grabbing litigation mania is ugly, desperate and greedy

[trancefreak]

This is serious I canceled my bank card last night and my bank provider was aware of the situation. They said they were receiving 100s of phone inquires already.

[Rudy_loves_Akuma]

oh shit.

[4Sh0w]

Oh come on! Sony cannot prevent world hunger either. Truth is that no infastructure is 100% secure once targeted by a group with the right talent and alot of determination. Hey maybe there was more Sony could have done to beef up their security before this but with so much sensitive info already leaked on the internet, I believe it was just a matter of time, no matter what security was in place. Sonys biggest miscalculation was under estimating the impact their aggressive pursuit of certain hackers would cause within that community but surely they have the right to protect the future of their product and services. As usual sonys PR folks havent exactly done them any favors in this whole mess. Lets put all our differences aside as gamers Sony needs our support, DO NOT LET THE HACKERS WIN, play some SP/offline games, if you have a 360/wii revisit a old favorite, go to the gym, but most of all be patient.

[Jazz4108]

This could haunt sony as much as rrod if not worse if these accusations of account fraud are true. All in all a uncomprised network and a reliable machine are important things as these both only hurt us gamers and tarnish sony and ms reputation.

[hiredhelp]

There's no evidence he had lost money. Unbelievable f@ck u John you not a Sony supporter or even seem upset for what Sony going threw but only to see how much your pockets can be filled. Well hope it don't go on another Sony game cos I for one wouldn't want you on my list.. If not bad enough they lost homes families in the quake Sony donating a lot money to them. now Sony gets this crap to handle too with geohotz now anon. Now money leechers.

[Vherostar]

Why am I not surprised this is from the US they will sue for ANYTHING money grabbing sods.

[Scary69]

Of course it had to be a hillbilly who has nothing better to do and wasting the courts time. This case will be thrown, people are just idiots.

[kikizoo]

It's a national sport in america$$$, stupid cupid people.

[HeretoSpeakTheTruth]

WoW it now has begin 1. it wasnt Sonys fault PSN wont down the hackers where harming it if sony didnt shut it down it could of getten worse trust me

2. i know sony should of said something sooner it would have help alot of gamers who had there credit card information address and everything else stolen but sueing them isnt the answer to it

3. Sony has enough Problems at the moment like

Sony stocks fall rapidly after PSN security breach

Getting PSN back Online (is sueing them really going to get anything Fixed)

[OC_MurphysLaw]

The lawsuit has nothing to do with PSN down time, and has no care about what Sony does in terms of getting PSN back up and running.

These suits will all be about Sony failing to protect sensitive information that they were entrusted with. It was Sony's responsibility to ensure that safety... the true question will be was it "forseeable that what Sony had in place for security was not good enough and they should have done more". If that is proven... then Sony will be on the hook most assuredly.

[Clarence]

Tell me what security is good enough if the pentagon can get hacked? Wikileaks proved that anything can be hacked. There is always someone out there who can cracked the security.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@Clarence I agree, anything can be hacked, broken into, stolen, etc... Nothing is full proof in the world.

That all said, companies that deal in personal information like this have a responsibility to provide an adequate level of security in proportion to the information they are storing, etc...

I truly don't know if Sony had provided an adequate level of security or not. I also am not the judge or jury on this. But this is the question though that will be argued by both sides. That is all I was trying to clarify.

[mrv321]

I can pretty much sue the entire world then, NO ONE WILL EVER USE ENOUGH security. XBL was hacked, the US government, the british government, the UN, everybody gets hacked. Sony had enough security before they where hacked because it worked. Now that people have worked around it then it needs to be improved.

Let's say you own a house, you have some important stuff inside, you in this example are Sony, you believe you have enough protection, Alarms etc, I break into your house. Now who is in the wrong here me for breaking in or you for not enough security? So you go and claim insurance, they deny it because 'Not enouh security' so a couple months down the line with little money left, I decide to sue you... you did not provide enough security and thus your charges against me where damaging. That's effectively what the lawsuit is.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@mrv321 Your example is so far off base its laughable.

to quote you: "Let's say you own a house, you have some important stuff inside, you in this example are Sony, you believe you have enough protection, Alarms etc, I break into your house. Now who is in the wrong here me for breaking in or you for not enough security? So you go and claim insurance, they deny it because 'Not enouh security' so a couple months down the line with little money left, I decide to sue you... you did not provide enough security and thus your charges against me where damaging. That's effectively what the lawsuit is."

Now I am going to use your example idea but put it in proper context to this situation.

You own a house, you have told all your neighbors they can buy stuff from you at your house at special prices but to do so they need to give you their info and accounts upfront. ( you in this example are Sony) You believe you have enough protection, Alarms etc...

I break into your house and steal all the info of your neighbors. As it turns out the protection and alarms you thought was enough of turned out to be very faulty. You rushed to make it all and actually forgot to wire the alarms up and so breaching your security was rather easy for me.

Now who is in the wrong here me for breaking in or you for not enough security? In reality I certainly am in the wrong as I broke the law by stealing. However, you also are in the wrong for mis-leading your neighbors into thinking you had created good security. They placed information with you under false pretences that you would safe guard it.

As for the insurance...I don't understand where you are going with that. Makes no sense in this situation. The only thing I can think of is you are trying to equate that out to "a neighbor" filing a claim with their bank to recover stolen money and getting it back but still suing you. Guess what, they can still sue you for damages. Damages are not just monetary. While it may seem trivial having to cancel cards, get re-imbursement ...all that time wasted...all damages.

This is why big corporations can and should be sued when they are negligent. The only thing these giant companies understand is money folks. If you hit them hard enough in the pocket book they will notice, they will make changes and most likely not make the same mistake again.

[theonlylolking]

It is sony's and the hacker's fault for this. Your body has a immune system just like sony has a security. When a virus beats the crap out of your protection your body has failed but the virus caused it. Just like sony's security failed but the hackers caused it.

[FFXI101]

Why does everyone who accuse Sony fail to do their job assume that SONY are "INVISIBLE" and "UNTOUCHABLE"

I'm no expert on this but if hacker can hack into your pc and mine or a bank or even goverment's network why would you think that Sony's network would be 100% safe?

I said it in other article that I think Sony's only fault was they didn't talk to us soon enough. Then again, if you read their blog is not hard to understand why.

Think as a police investigation, now if the police did not have enough evidence to support their theory would they just go to the press and say they found out who the suspect is and what were the motivation for this crime and how did the suspect do it?

I'm sure Sony is doing whatever they can to solve this to prevent further damage and I'm sure there will be an explanation from them.

[Jazz4108]

2mrv321...please provide me alink where xbox live has been hacked. Don't make thinks up to make sony look better. The system has its share of piracy but live has never been hacked.

[smoothdude]

Sony is being very stupid about our confidential information being compromised. While it is not Sony's fault that PSN was hacked, it still remains their responsibility for whatever happens. Thus the class action lawsuits which will follow. Anyone could see this coming...maybe this is why Sony is being quiet on the whole issue.

[SnotyTheRocket]

Well, yeah it's Sonys responsibility to clean the mess up, but no one is giving them a f***ing chance to! " OMG WTFBBQ SONY U LETZ TEH HAXORZ IN I SUE U!" Give them a god damn chance to fix it! Maybe it's not as bad as we/they think.

[FFXI101]

Personally I think this law suit is just people taking adventage of this situation and wanna gain something for themselves.

[Vherostar]

Exactly hackers can hack anything! Nothing is un- hackable that is a FACT.

[ziggurcat]

*facepalm*

*sigh*

even after sony saying that there is no evidence that CC info was taken, people are still ridiculously litigious...

disagrees: really? because you can't really sue for damages that you haven't accrued. furthermore, you can't really sue for damages based on the possibility that information *might* have been taken. there's zero definitive proof so far that anything has been taken. you also can't sue because sony got hacked. if that were true then i could sue you for having your home broken into even though you've locked all of your windows and doors because you should have known better than to allow someone to break into your house.

[montyburns000]

"i could sue you for having your home broken into even though you've locked all of your windows and doors because you should have known better than to allow someone to break into your house."

ridiculous analogy, Sony has been trusted with our personal information.

for that comparison to actually work I would have to provide a service for you and have it stolen for you to "SUE" me. instead you pulled an arbitrary example out of your ass to try and justify Sonys ignorance on the matter.

[WitWolfy]

God some of these 12 year old kids are just too pro fanboy to admit Sony makes mistakes too!

Seriously we get it you LOVE Sony, but let the people complain that want to complain. Like you dont complan when certain FW updates brick your console.. Hypocrites

For all we know the oukes that did this probably did micro transactions on every bodies CCaccounts just to make something out of this. and ended up making millions if not more, just to see if they could get away with it... See where im going with this?

Im sure you'd be pissed to know if some hacker got rich off stealing a dollar by you just for shits and giggles

[xYLeinen]

Lawsuit.

This is silly. No matter where in the world, no matter what software, no matter what system, it will NEVER be 110% secure.

Anyone with a little common sense get this.

[branchedout]

Yes, but anyone who's taken a Risk Management class knows that by law, Sony has to provide adequate protection. If the attackers used some completely powerful program that's amazing, then Sony couldn't have possibly protected against it.

But, if Sony made a slip-up somewhere, say transmitting some data in plaintext, then Sony may have a hard time winning this one.

Investigations will have to go on to determine if their security was adequate.

[stuna1]

@branchedout
But who are we to say what is too little protection?
It's a damn shame how we in our ignorance, have allowed this whole scenario be proliferated throughout the media, fanboy sites, uninformed guesstimaters and so forth! Really we should be ashamed of ourselves, for allowing these fear-monger to have control over this situation, by making us second guess our decision of who we've allowed into our circle of trust. Which by the way could be anyone, who we've allowed access to personal or, private information ex. Banks, Grocery stores, even family members.
People are so quick to point fingers and assign blame to who they percieve to be the guilty party, but how many have played a part in rectifying this this situation? And before you answer, "YES" we all can play a part! Even if it's just to try to reassure the masses, that this too shall pass, and things will work out.

@branchedout that's what I'm saying. How do we know that sony hasn't followed those guidelines, and used the necessary per-cautions necessary to avert a even bigger fallout, than what they're experiencing now? Given the opportunity if present, I've found that most will take avantage of a bad situation, for their own gain! Even if they know it is wrong, and this is one such case.

[branchedout]

@stuna1

There's forms and worksheets that say what is too little protection. Some of which I listed above. There -is- a definitive guide.

This is business as usual. But the information's not common, so the average person doesn't know about it.

[SpLinT]

No surprise , its from Alabama. He probably bought an avatar 1 year ago.

[Adva]

Lol, Americans. Sueing left and right.
*Person falls down randomly and sues the owner of the property*

[Fishy Fingers]

Where there's blame, there's a claim :)

[metsgaming]

heard of a story a while back that some lady fell in front of a grocery store and sued the company. The worst part is she actually won.

[radphil]

@metsb Oh if you think that's bad, there was a lady that won a case against McDonalds, because she ordered hot coffee, spilled it on herself, and won because there wasn't a label on the cup that said hot coffee. >_>

[DirtyLary]

There was a disabled guy in USA. Spent his life going from store to store seeing if they had disabled access or he would sue. I heard he was up in the thousands and was finally blocked from suing. He destroyed many businesses over petty things that could've been corrected just talking to the owner.

[MysticStrummer]

The McDonald's lady with the hot coffee won, but then the case was appealed and she lost.

[DRIIV]

@radphill
The coffee case became said the lady and McDonalds were both at fault but McDonalds was more a fault. The appeal brought the amount of money down. The part that was considered McDonalds fault was that they were brewing the coffee so it was at a temperature that they knew would cause burns and was considered too hot to drink. There were complaints about that in the past but they were ignored because most people drink the coffee somewhere else giving it time to cool off.

[radphil]

@DRIIV

At the temp you brew coffee, it's going to burn you regardless.

[Zydake]

Actually i think i remember from my old criminal justice class a robber broke in and injured himself and he sued the owners o the place he was robbing and he won. 0.0

[Pintheshadows]

Didn't he fall from a skylight?

[metsgaming]

i heard something similar about a guy breaking into a school and feel through the roof of the gym, dont know if it was a skylight or not. Maybe it the same incident or very similar.

[Zydake]

yep your right i dont remember it exactly lol but i remembered that detail

[Pintheshadows]

I think he fell and broke his hip on the kitchen counter and said it was poorly positioned. It must be the same.

[Bordel_1900]

When talking about suing, americans are ridiculus. They'll do anything for the almighty dollar. Poor bastards.

[rwarner174]

Jesus fing Christ. You must be from Europe, where there are no dollars to do anything for. Sure I agree that these kind lawsuits are bad, but I hate your arrogance. I really wish instead of having the blood of my ancestors on the shores of Normandy we just would of let Hitler take you over. And don't worry every 50 years or so there is some other nutcase that comes out of Europe that wants to take over the world. The US will probably have to solve that for Europe too. Poor Bastards.

[Bordel_1900]

Well, in general I have nothing against americans. Lots of cool shit from those shores. Yes I'm from Europe, and it seems ppl in the states are suing left and right for no reason at all. In stead of suing for all and nothing you should start to take som personal responsibility and own up to your own stupidity (not u personally). Stop acting like everyone owes you something.

[Neko_Mega]

Well this isn't going to end well for this person, Sony has more money and has more of a idea what has happen.

[newn4gguy]

This person has an informed lawyer though.

[ziggurcat]

if by "informed", you mean "greedy" and/or "opportunistic", then yes... this person has an informed lawyer.

[newn4gguy]

He went to school to be greedy though...so, he's definitely informed.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@Neko_Mega... Trust me...this will not just be one person against Sony.

[Neko_Mega]

Lets look at it, Sony didn't know of the problem and soon as they know a 100% what the problem was, they took PSN down and started to work on the problem.

Don't see anything that a dumb person can sue over, plus Sony most likely has more then one lawyers.

People its going to end like it did with Geo.

[omi25p]

They said they closed down psn because they where hacked. If they had any suspicions that bank account details had been stolen they should have warned the consumer INSTANTLY.

I want to know as soon as they think it has happened so I can take the necessary precautions to prevent any of my money being taken from me because this is MY MONEY not theirs they have not right what so ever to take risks with their consumers details.

Do not tell me after you have done your investigations that my bank account details have indeed been stolen, because then it is too late for me to act.

Sony have completely lost my trust.

[darx]

@ Neko you're too young for adult conversations.

[soundslike]

Why on earth would they counter-sue someone who's information had been stolen from them? That just makes them look more irresponsible.

[Neko_Mega]

@darx

Young uh? Sound little boy but I'm more old then you.

@Soundlike

I don't think they will counter sue, more of the lines that the person would waste all their money to first Sony like Geo did and fail.

[soundslike]

The difference is, it lied more upon geohots side to prove that HE wasn't breaking any laws.

in this case, its the opposite, Sony now has to defend against them trying to prove their negligence or specific laws being broken.

[Neko_Mega]

Yeah but like I said, Sony is the only ones that know what really happen and this person is just mad about what he is hearing.

You people can disagree all you want, but it won't change the fact Sony will win.

[omi25p]

"Yeah like i said sony are the only ones who know what really happened and this person is just mad about what he is hearing"

Im also goddamn mad and im shocked that fanboys like you arent, the only explanation for you not being angry is you have no bank account because your perants pay for EVERYTHING or you are just retardedly ignorant and you think its perfectly acceptable for a company to have full control over our bank account details and feel no need to warn us over a possible threat just because it could incriminate them?

[Rybakov]

really just really...people are getting more stupid by the minute

[toxic-inferno]

Is the answer to everything a lawsuit? Honestly, unless you have money taken that you have been able to retrieve, I see NO reason to take Sony to court. Even then, it probably isn't worth it.

I agree that we should all just get back to treating the PS3 as a fun gaming machine. It really is nothing more than a toy at the end of the day, and filing lawsuits against Sony will realistically do no good.

[darx]

Well, I would at least like for Sony to pay for my credit report monitoring for at least a year.

[Thepro318]

This guy trying start domino effect one person sue then another an another . Then news/media recommend people with CCinfo on PSN partake in the sue. After that it becomes like USERS vs SONY class action . Just watch news of this sue gets out SONY going have answer a ton of questions.

[earbus]

I know its hot news right now but wow the articles keep pouring in is n4g hacked?

[Rybakov]

no just all the sony fanboys aren't distracted by online right now

[MysticStrummer]

You actually believe it's Sony fans that are posting all this? Time for your meds.

[newn4gguy]

Sony spends tens of millions of dollars in court every year.

I think they'll be alright.

^_^

Lawyers will see that e-mail from Sony and go for the kill. They'll settle. They always settle.

[soundslike]

can't blame the guy for seizing the opportunity. It will be hard to call him a moronic hick, when he walks out of court with a few thousand dollars.

[joeorc]

i would gather Class action Status:

Sony settles $300.00/user X 50 million user base

the cost of your console all aboard.

an the PS3 will be the last living room playstation Sony moves the playstation platform to services an Mobile platforms only /Android an Mobile playstation Suite.

there's a good chance now I would say

[n4gisatroll]

Umm, no. That won't happen. And seriously, for actually thinking that, is a bit ignorant.

[joeorc]

with all the drama going right now trying the fud campaign, I though i would put some of my OWN...this is Toading" at it's finest..I do not care what people on here think all I know.

is that sony is releasing the playstation Suite an it goes on what platform mainly Android..Sony does not have to release a Next playstation 4, Home living room Console..Hell they could put the Game console part's or in a box for or mounted in the TV an sell the the Playstation in the Audio Video section.

It does not have to be sold in Game stores like Gamestop.

Sony already did it anyway:

http://www.audioholics.com/...

support the PS3 until end of life cycle an my 300 X 50 million could indeed be the ammount is enough join in..it is 75 million account's, now maybe not PS3 but there is the PSP also.

[k2d]

"Sony settles $300.00/user X 50 million user base" ...and the whole f-ing world as a cherry on top

+bubble /sarcasm

[Neko_Mega]

Yeah if Sony was like Microsoft.

To bad Sony is smarter with their money.

[Max_Dissatisfaction]

Lol dude, seriously, what does microsoft have to do with what that guy just said?
I don't mean to be offensive but you seem to be displaying symptoms of being hurt in the rear. I'd say the term but I do not want to break site rules

[Grimhammer00]

Might be trailer trash....but I think they might have grounds.
We all agree with the EULA...terms of use.
But part of that contract holds Siny accountable for protection of our privacy.

Court would need to see and understand what exactly Sony had in place prior to the breach for security. Then determine if it was within acceptable standards.

[younglj01]

USA is tha only country I know where ppl will sue a company that is not in fault.

Thats like my bank getting robbed.Then I see about it on Tv and then decide to sue them for not protecting my money better.

Oh wait this is tha same fuking thing.

[TrashyNewz]

i agree with you you are the only one here that know what they are talking about. it seems that everyone that uses psn did not read the terms of service agreement.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Not at all, this would be like Mastercard allowing all their customer files to be stolen due to poor security measures that were not at an appropriate level. ;)

I love that everyone just thinks because a company puts up a bunch of terms and conditions that it frees them of responsibility.

[Topshelfcheese]

What's an appropriate level? There is no such thing as 100% security. The sooner you realize that the sooner you will take matters into your own hands.

If your that worried about it, than you shouldn't even let a company store your CC numbers and just enter it anytime you order.

[testerg35]

Topshelf, and you entering it a the time you order is secure?

[branchedout]

@Topshelf

Actually, there's a few measures.

A "Weighted Factor Analysis"

The "Threat Vulnerability Asset" analysis

Annnnd "Ranked vulnerability Risk" worksheet.

But that's not exactly common knowledge for folks unless they're going into network security or risk management. Those three examples are listed from an earlier basic class I've had.

The "Appropriate" level for this is particularly high. Millions of customer's credit card information is a vital peice of information, as compared to a low level amount of security for the name of the employee of the month.

But that's just my basic knowledge.

[tweet75]

hmmm does this mean that there may not be a ps4?

[joeorc]

"hmmm does this mean that there may not be a ps4? "

some could say the PS3 was so mismanaged that on the scale of EPIC failures it will be the top to beat for the best failure of all time. but the thing is

even if there is no PS4 the current PS3 Could be supported until the end of the generation, Sony will most likely have to rely on 1st party studios for the rest of the gen, any not tied to Sony directly for 1st party.

I would say has investors pulling the plug on projects or delaying. Sony's PR hit was severe. but like I stated Sony could come back from this stronger than ever before, but I would say Software services an Open Platform design for Chips for future playstation suite enabled devices

[cyclonus007]

New hardware means new security. If Sony went down permanently, where do you think all the hackers will put their attention? Microsoft and Nintendo are looking at their future right now and I'm sure they are shivering.

It took 5 years for hackers to breach PSN and that was long after the Wii and 360 were compromised. Microsoft has been playing the same security shell game Sony has played for years. How long before they are broken wide open?

[TrashyNewz]

OK whom ever is going too file a class action law suit should really go to the playstaion.com site first and read the terms and service agreement sony has up. when you do, head down to section 13 of liability. it states how they are not responsible for the credit card info that was stolen or anything else.. if i am wrong someone correct me.

Sony did warn us that there was an outside source that hacked them.It was the consumers fault for not heeding to this warning and taking needed procautions.

[BX81]

Has anyone seen the new COD black ops zombie map. That looks nutts. If you haven't there is a video on XBL and on gametrailers.com

[g4n]

Good for him. I'm waiting for a major class action to join.

[Simco876]

Burn Kevin Butler on the cross!

[Neo Nugget]

Then he'll rise three days later and kick your ass.

[house]

hahaha! maybe he will make another epic speech like he did at e3

[PimpHandHappy]

if u cant get rich with hard work why not sue

[KillerPwned]

Its a waste of cash i think, i was expecting this to happen so i assume Sony though the same. They got their asses covered probably for this but if this guy could get something out of it good for him.

[cpt_kaos]

Yeah he'll get his ass handed to him.

[TrashyNewz]

sony has also leaked the hackers is address and it every where. that punk ass hacker lives in California

[ERMAC_]

And it begins. Dun, dun, dun

If this actually goes anywhere, I bet 3 hotdogs it'll end in a settlement. Which is boring anyway.

[Der_Kommandant]

Good Luck

http://sp8.fotolog.com/phot...

[Acquiescence]

I'd rather not. I want it fixed and forgotten about. Well, not forgotten about, but out of the way, so that I can focus back on what I love about the PS3.

[Raven_Nomad]

If there is a class action suit I'd join up. Like I did with the Madden Law Suit. No way should one company be able to purchase the NFL license by themselves.

[cyclonus007]

If the NFL is selling, someone will be buying. A judge is going to look at that case, laugh until he ruptures something, and rule that the NFL can do what it wants. It's a business.

[Raven_Nomad]

There are monopoly laws, the class action suit against the NFL actually have a very good chance of succeeding, which is why it's gone on for so long.

[MysticStrummer]

@Raven - That has nothing to do with a monopoly. It's a license that's owned by someone. For example, not just any developer/publisher can make and put out a Star Wars or Lord of the Rings game.

[cyclonus007]

So does that mean I can sue THQ for having the WWE license and creating a monopoly on wrestling games?

[Homicide]

I hope he wins. Do it for us Kristopher!!

[PS3ROCKS]

Well there goes NGP and the PS4.

[Fire1792]

Ha nice :P.

[Derekvinyard13]

lol

[Ace_1975]

A slack jawed yokel looking for a free payout.

[Liamario]

I would have assumed that the plaintiff has to suffer damage financial or otherwise in order to win a case.
Whoever is suing is a complete asshole in any case. He is no more concerned about his details being out there than I do of my house getting destroyed by a black hole.

[execution17]

only in america

[Zynga]

Oh man not good for sony and it will only get worse.

[linkprk2584]

i guess this is what the hackers were talking about we havent seen anything yet they said.

[frelyler]

Sorry douche bag, you agreed to the terms of service, Sony will throw that in your face and then the court will throw your "case" out. People are so pathetic. Sony's legal team is going to make this guys head spin so fast it's gonna pop off. I can't wait for him to get owned and slammed down.

[dirtrider]

^^^ example of what i just typed down there.

[Fulensenca]

First lawsuit it is from an american. What a surprise /S

[TheKayle]

trash or not ..he is going to win....sony already know about the informations/cc problem ...if u see the cause against geohot ..they accuse him of financial freud (and other stuff)....so...is sure that sony didnt done nothing ...geohot also putted online document that show how much good sony know about it....is win win situation for kristopher lol :D

[DanteKnightsTemplar]

He needs the cash,to find more family to inbreed with. TOS, bitch.learn to read and educate yourself.

[hadouken007]

stop with the psn articles,let me know when its back up.

[TheKayle]

goshhhhhhhhh guys...TOS r b******t! sony violate the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS) and sony should be supposed too doo the following:

1) Build and Maintain a Secure Network
2) Protect Card holder Data
3) Maintain a Vulnerability Management Program
4) Implement Strong Access Control Measures
5) Regularly Monitor and Test Networks
6) Maintain an Information Security Policy

They failed to do this.

The biggest weakness is Sony assumed that PSN was a private network. A network between a secure PS3 and PSN. How do we know this is Sony's assumption? Because in a detailed analysis of the network transmissions between a PS3 and PSN a hacker discovered that user credit card data was transmitted to PSN unencrypted.

[pastie.org] (See line 66)

Once the PS3 was hacked, PSN became an open/public network. With credit card information being sent unencrypted, it was only a matter of time before, on a limited basis, private data would be stolen. But the fact that Sony didn't encrypt the data was in violation of the PCI DSS agreement with credit card companies.

[dirtrider]

wasn't aware that there are so many lawyers on n4g. i see ignorant comments like "trailer trash" and other comments bashing people in the states as well. hmmm and a lot of you wonder why the sony fanboys are so disliked in the gaming industry.

oh and for this guys lawsuit and many more that will be incoming, all they have to prove is negligence on sony's part by not providing adequate security to safe guard against attacks such as this one, that's all they gotta do.

i say it will be easy- sony got attacked what a month ago with a dd05 attack, was issued warnings from the group that more and more serious attacks we're likely/imminent. sony has to show that they didn't shrug these warnings off, and that they tried their best to prevent this. they also have to show that they took the threats seriously-

from what i gather sony didn't take them seriously. they remained smug, just like their fanboys, and well they got screwed. plain and simple. i hope the best out come for sony and everyone effected, but again, the rampant sony crowd on n4g strikes again with immaturity, and ignorance.

edit to the kayle- well said. you are saying what i just posted ina different way. the fanboys on here can't even stop being fanboys long enough on this issue to think like a person instead of a fanboy.

[frelyler]

Funny you should mention that there are a lot of lawyers on here. I'm very confident in my degree and profession and I like how you assume I don't know what I am talking about. It's all in the terms of service which anyone who uses PSN has agreed to. He has no case, it's all laid out in the fine print. When this case gets thrown for the exact reasons I cited above you will see that in fact, I do know what I am talking about. Congrats on putting your foot squarely in your mouth.

[dirtrider]

if everything was as simple as terms of use then law suits over identity theft wouldn't happen. terms of use doesn't let sony off the hook for not having adequate security. it is THEIR responsibility to keep the users information safe, PERIOD.

if proven they we're negligent in doing this, they will have to pay the consequences. it really is this simple.

[tudors]

Disgusting, I have said this before and I say it now this is not the work of an activist, and regards the lawsuit I would ask the person concerned to consider the turmoil japan is going through right now, I support activism for the right reasons, this is nothing of the sort, this is down right cruel, think of all the people who will loose their jobs, and we have money hungry idiots jumping at the chance of a lawsuit when they have not even lost any money yet. I would hope that regardless of whether Sony messed up that people realise what this means if we are prepared to put them out of business to prove a point.

[cyclonus007]

Let's do the math: Class action lawsuit that could potentially include all PSN users in America...first, you would have to verify that all the users are legit. Since, current estimates say Sony sold about 20 million PS3s in NA, we'll go with that number. Then you would have to prove that Sony mishandled your account information and that led to it being stolen, all of which has yet to be proven (even the theft of CC info). Now if Sony is proven to be negligent (doubtful) and the info of 20 million (doubtful) PSN users is out in the wild (REALLY doubtful), all those users would probably be entitled to a settlement of...around $30.

Why so low? Because no US court would ever dream of setting the precedent of bankrupting a company on hearsay alone. They'd rather throw out the case first. You'd get more money selling your PS3 on eBay than you would ever expect to get after waiting months for the judgement in a class action lawsuit. But have fun with that.

[TheKayle]

in wrong .....u dont need to hit the ps3 sales..u must hit the ACCOUNTS...and just in usa r 36 millions...

[blackburn5]

Wondered who would be the first idiot to do this. Now I know. Sony tore Geohot and Other OS claimers apart in court. So........ good luck with that.

[testerg35]

tore Geohot? What exactly what punishment did Geohot get?

[khamvongsa09]

I guess you can say he lost alot of money and time.. But other then that there's really no other "punishment"

[testerg35]

Not sure he lost money since people donated for his legal fees. Time? He just showed that he was able to walk away with just a slap on the hands and a possible documentary deal with Sony (rumor?).

[Thesonygeniuses]

WTH? 77 million users PSN users?! There isnt more than 50 million PS3 consoles. So if i have 10 users for each region of psn accounts, i get to sue Sony for all of them?

Wow, its gamers who supported hackers that we are in this mess. NEXT TIME THINK TWICE BEFORE DONATING TO A HACKER!

[PirateThom]

PSP also uses PSN.

[goalweiser]

What if the government hacked into John Doe's computer and found out he had pirated media and software on the computer?

They released a report and local news stations plastered the guy's face all over the world. All the companies he pirated from start suing him.

Does the guy's piracy excuse the fact that the government was sneaking into his network?

Most of us would blame the government and scream at the injustice.

Here we have hackers breaking into Sony's network and we're blaming John Doe instead of the actual intruders.

Hypocrites. Hackers do not respect governments or powerful people. What makes you think they are going to respect your privacy?

Hackers are the problem. They will be the cause of more online laws restricting us. They will be the reason for our computers being searched and privacy all together being eradicated.

If you can't see that hackers are to blame...starting with Geohot...in this entire situation, then you are clueless.

What about this? We all know Somalia pirates hop on boats off the coast of Africa and kill crews. Do we blame the crews or do we blame the murdering pirates?

[Lucreto]

It may not happen it this law goes through.
http://www.latimes.com/busi...

[Grimhammer00]

Im a huge Sony fan. I love my ps3.

However, if we as consumers don't ask the corps we buy from whether they are performing their due diligence regularly, who here thinks they'll do it for moral reasons or legal reasons?

Wasn't their a huge BP oil deluge recently?

I'm not saying that Sony hasn't done it's most to protect our info. But we gotta ask.
Second part is how long do we think they knew before telling us? Sure, their may have been no info taken....but since Sony admits they don't know that as fact.....it's reasonable to think they should have told us immediately.

I support Sony. I hope they get this all straight.
Just don't be sheeple people! :)

[joeylee976]

Great another thread about PSN breach...

Oh look what I found! a rare iphone game that is hardcore as hell "Bubble Trolls" This thing is kicking my ass, I challenge you guys to beat even the second stage area "crooked creek"

http://itunes.apple.com/us/...

[Krakn3Dfx]

Awesome. Alabama, normally known for bombing abortion clinics, sex with direct relations and trying to get Donald Trump into the White House, are now taking on the task of scoring $2-$3 for each PSN user while a group of lawyers walk away with millions.

This sounds like a great idea.

[Rettom]

Lol 520* and the article was approved 5 minutes ago

Error?

[MetalFreakMike]

People are just trying to cash in on this. I bet they didn't really lose anything or much at all. If I find charges on my card, all I do is call them and say "I didn't buy those things" and I get the money returned with a new card sent to my home. It has happened before and if it happens again then it will be dealt with. People need to stop overreacting.

[xtremegamerage]

Goes back to watching judge judy.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

Judge Judy FTW!A.....LMAO im watching reruns of the Brady Bunch and Partridge Family.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

this is the first of many lawsuits to come.

[Laika]

I think sony definitely screwed up here.... but honestly shouldn't we be more worried about getting the hacker who did this locked up? I'd rather have him in prison then sony fending off hundreds of lawsuits.

[Ninjamonkey82]

I tell you Americains need a good slap up the side of the head sometimes wheres the sense in this?.

[Grimhammer00]

@metalfreakmike

You ever think of why insurance rates go sky high?
It's due to your mentality.

I won't go any further than that...but you gotta see that if we simply sit by and idly accept that we don't have any responsibility in this, then we all fail.

[Fallouts]

here comes all the opertunists!!!!

@grimhammer

i dont understand you... how does his mentality cause insurance to sky rocket? are we supposed to ignore the hackers? we fail cause of them doing all this fraud shit, thats why things like insurance sky rocket. not cause you changed your card and got your money back

[-MoOkS-]

I like how people are trying to underplay the events of the past week.

Let me put this into persepective for you: 75 million people, or 1.1% of the worlds population, has had their PERSONAL INFORMATION compromised. Sony has known this for a full week, but only recently decided to inform the consumers.

Dirt tactics, and in my opinion, done to cover their own arses. They still haven't layed all the cards on the table. Microsoft on the other hand would be the definition of transparent. Maybe Sony should "steal" Microsofts upstanding business morals like they did the design of the 360 guide button and triggers.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Go and play the beta for the only game your getting this year son.. If you don't like the game get a PS3.

[ConstipatedGorilla]

Yeah, and while I'm at it, I'll just post my credit card information online for all to see. No thanks.

[montyburns000]

here we go again with you guys flip flopping. a month ago you all got on the "Sue geohot" bandwagon. now that your bigbad company is in the hot seat your all "lawsuit from USA? not surprised"

fuc im glad I don't use PSN with the rest of you crybabies. Karma's a bitch and so are you.

[Enigma_2099]

On one hand, I can understand the frustration over this...

... on the other hand, I'm starting to HATE class action law suits. They reek of simple cash grabs.

@montyburns000

Did geoHotz suffer from a hacker attack caused by Sony cracking his console? No, now shut up.

[AntiHeroComplex]

suing should be completely removed from america's legal system.

[Senden]

Guess it would bring new meaning the the saying "the land of the free".

[MyNameIsNotRick]

How about when a corporation dumps toxic waist near a community leading to a massive increase in the cancer rate in that community. How about if one of your loved ones died from that cancer. So your saying that you wouldn't want that company to pay?

I agree that something needs to be done to reduce the amout of crap lawsuits but it's silly to say that it "should be completely removed".

[AntiHeroComplex]

Thats right. Government should impose fines and a part of that could be payed to victims. Suing is bullshit, bullshit and bullshit. the only ones who profit from it are lawyers. legal system is broken.

your dog bites someone, SUED BITCH!,
Someone falls in your store, SUED BITCH !
someone gets injured while robbing you, SUED BITCH!
A baby dies while being delivered, the doc is SUED BITCH !

You cant turn around without the possibility some stupid fuck will sue you because the sky is blue. You call this freedom? Americas morals have become perverse since the country has been established.

Heres an idea. Man up and live in the real world. Nobody owes you shit. Bad things happen. If you cant deal with it, consider self termination.

[ConstipatedGorilla]

I'm okay with that. Most Americans are trust worthy, stand-up citizens. What could possibly go wrong?

[UnNaTuRaL1]

Well its entirely Sony's fault for not letting anyone know early enough to take the steps to ensure people's safety in the matter. Its better to let someone know of a possible threat ahead of time not a week after the fact when major damage could have taken place during that time. We deserve to know ASAP to prevent any damage not wait until its too late. I know they had to bring someone in to investigate but knowing they shut things down the had to know things were bad from the get go.

[Its_That_Purp]

I Guess This Bum Didn't Read The Agreement Before He Clicke Accept

[MyNameIsNotRick]

To the people complaining about all of these articles related to the psn. I don't understand why your suprized about all of the articles. This is the biggest gaming story in years and it is ongoing. These articles are "hot" because allot of people are trying to figure out what's going on.

also...to the people saying that it's somehow because he's american. The more likely reason is that it's an american is because it's easier to sue here. There are 300 million people here. We don't all fit the mold you see in the movies and on tv. Yeah...he's a moron, but I bet you have a few where your from too:)

Also...How do we know he's the first. Does everybody make a press release when the decide to sue?

[chrisin3]

The truth remains as this...

I secure a network myself. I'm responsible. I can do everything I can to secure the network. I can take all precautions. But at the end of the day, a determined, super intelligent hacker could exploit something. It's the nature of being online. It's UNFORTUNATE this happened. But you all think Sony had eyesoar type vulnerabilities you are crazy. There is a reason why they weren't hacked years ago. They were secure. A hacker, with a little luck, possibly inside info, and great talent, hack the PSN.

Blame Sony? How about blame the hacker. Since when do we say...You broke the law, you hurt thousands of people, etc. You should be at fault but no, it's the other guys fault because they should have known better. The key is the hacker is the enemy. You know the security admins at Sony probably believe they were secure. A worthless hacker with brains got lucky. Don't hate. At the end of the day it's not Sony that did this. At the end of the day, it's a normal guy with a family (a guy who works in network security) who allowed this to happen. But it's supremely unlikely it was intentional.

[Relientk77]

Like Sony doesn't have enough on it's plate :-/

[frelyler]

f

[Senden]

Wow taking fanboyism to the extremes in this article. How people can say it's the users faults for using PSN that their details got leaked is beyond me. While it's true YOU are the ones handing them over to Sony, it's also true that YOU are the ones trusting Sony to use them responsibly and surely in the eyes of the law, they're legally required to have at least the standard level of countermeasures in place to protect their customers from incidents such as this? I'm not saying that Sony don't as i'm not sure what they have.

It's ironic this whole situation considering it was probably spurred on by the issues with Geohot and the other guy and Sony took action to try and stop them losing money through piracy. Well I bet after this is all done and dusted it'll cost them a LOT more than any piracy problems would have done in the short run at least.

[testerg35]

Its because Sony can do no wrong.

[undercovrr]

Good for the guy suing. Few times are lawsuits done for just cause, and this is one of those few times. I hope he wins and I hope others follow to teach not only Sony but every corporation out there a lesson that protecting its consumers' information should be their number one priority

[Arkem]

If he were to win, which I honestly doubt, do ALL of the PSN members get an even chunk of the cash? I mean it's not like only he was affected.

At any rate, this guy should just chill. I don't like the fact that all of this is going on myself but I'm trying to keep cool and collected.

[lochdoun]

I thought $ony fans were supposed to be calm and mature about this situation?
Certainly doesn't seem like it...
Fruitless lawsuits sounds a lot like "wah wah wah!!!"

[ForROME]

So it begins

[CtrlAltDel]

Sony does provide a free service for which one cannot sue (successfully) if said service goes down or is shut-off permanently.

You can't even sue Sony for eliminating features which may have made you decide on buying the PS3 (BC, Linux OS, etc.)

But when you utilize the PSN store and provide credit card info, email address & passwords...it IS Sony's duty to protect that information, nothing more or less.

Remember it is an inconvienence for one to have to cancel credit cards and have new ones re-issued. It is troubling knowing that though you have canceled your cards, SOMEONE has your passwords and email info. I'm very sure a good majority of the 70+million users may have used the same password that they use on pSN for other things such as online banking, email, website accts, etc. So now all you can do is hope for the best or tidiously change ALL of your accounts with any related information.

Sue for PSN outage - Laughable!

Sue for stolen info (regardless if anything fraudulent has currently happened) - Wise & respectable.

[Craftiii4]

Gone are the good old days, where you could do what you want, no matter how dangerous, now every one is so used to being "wrapped in cotton wool" and playing it safe, expecting a safety rail to be at the end. This means that you all seem to think that your the only person who really matters, that it every thing will work out fine for you. Slowly every thing fun is being taken away as it's a safety hazard or a danger to your private information. What do you all expect to accomplish by suing Sony? Instead of letting them try and find who hacked them, you would rather make them bankrupt, so that there will be no PS4 no NGP, you would rather have no psn, and the prices of all of sonys competitors products to rise? My view on the human race - The human race are cowardly people who will do any thing to get a bit of cash. They have no respect for the enivorment or future generations. They have a sh*t law system which allows any idiot to get his voice heard over people who live honestly. (in short - you don't do anything, and just hope that some one else will do it for you) And if Anon is so good, can't they see who hacked sony? This is my first post on here, I am 15 years old, and I live in the uk, let the dislikes begin.

[Optical_Matrix]

Contrary to popular belief, it's very common for corporations to store information in text rather than encrypt it. That said, troubling times ahead for Sony and the industry. I hope they come back in full force at E3 and show the industry they're still serious guys.

[jdigitalseven]

LOL good luck guy, like Sony didnt have security for this stuff....it was just hacked. And a SMALL % of users keep there card info auto saved on PSN, most buy PSN cards to be safe in this world of tech hackers today. I don't safe my cards info on anything and Ive never had any problems.

[Ace_Man_6]

in a way, this is a good thing, Sony will realise this and learn for the next time (if there is a next time that is)

[SuperbVillain]

Kristopher Johns needs to stfu and have a seat

[Klaykid123]

How the hell is it Sony's fault? Sure, their security maybe wasn't "strong" enough to defend itself, but it's not their fault 12+ hackers hacked into the system.

[SnotyTheRocket]

No acctual proof..... No case there Bro.

[LoneWanderer09]

stupid people being stupid

[Treyb3yond]

I think I speak for most people when I say that hackers names are as good as dogshit right now. They couldnt have put themselves any lower in the eyes of gamers.

[madara0sama]

It's like suing your bank for getting robbed. People these days are filthy greedy.

[Nickster800]

Me: Sony if you lose this law suit your gonna be in a world of shit.
Sony: I am in a world of shit!

lol Full Metal Jacket references.

[jjank11]

Great, more frivolous lawsuits. The legal system is so asinine in this country. Basically what this boils down to is that a robber (the hacker(s)) broke into a building (psn) and happened to steal things (psn accounts) which happened to be someone elses items because they were borrowing them (sony). How is this all of a sudden Sony's fault? They have their terms of service and it is voluntary. If you read it and don't like it or think it is questionable then don't use it.

I don't remember all the TOS of PSN and the whole jargon behind this lawsuit but I bet it has little to no standing whatsoever, but in america I guess it doesn't matter. I guess the hacker could sue sony.

It all remains to be seen. The second PSN is back online, i'll be using it and be happy.

[divideby0]

as with ANY company where I store personal information.. its up to them to protect it.. if not...its negligence..

forget its a gaming company, since that brings the fanboyz out... in this case we need to know if the company did all they could to protect our private information or did they sub contract out the network sercurity to the brother in law of the cleaners, since they were the cheapest... thats the type of questions which need to be answered... fanboyism aside

[Hashashin]

Sooooo what did he lose anyway? "kristopher" should stop trying to make a quick buck and try to kill himself instead. I really hate people. Great they got hacked. Give me an unhackable scenario... good there is none. Besides they said that it is still "uncertain". F##k greedy people. F##k hackers. F$$k lawyers.

[burn10]

*sigh* People sue for anything now a days. Oh boo hoo Sony was trying to protect my financial information and forced me to do something besides gaming for a few days. I've rather enjoyed going back to my single player games.

[TacoTaru]

Oh please not a class action lawsuit. Lawyers get gazillions, each individual gets a free ding-dong or ho-ho.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

the way RROD cost MS? just a thought...

[Holeran]

And he thinks the hackers are trying to get a free meal? Looks to me the real thiefs are going to come out of the woodwork now.

[SpLinT]

I heard sony lost our trophies and we'll have to remake PSN accounts in the end.

[Sieg]

Why not post a legitimate link?

[XabiDaChosenOne]

false, they have stated that trophys are 100 percent secure.

[bobrea]

This, along with the many suits to follow, will all be thrown out.

[sam2236]

Yeah, because giving hackers access to over 70 milion names, addresses and credit card accounts is no big deal, right? Right?

Retard.

[bobrea]

Implying that Sony "gave" them access and it wasn't accessed illegally.

Retard.

[morbid237]

yeah and i heard gamestop won't even take ur used ps3s. haha looks like u guys are stuck with it now.

[ionlyneedonebubble]

First of all this guys name is Kristopher. lol

[Scottyabanks]

I find it hard to believe Anonymous isn't behind this, despite the denials.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

and noticed a huge credit card/identity theft warning on the home page. It said people in certain countries and states AREN'T allowed to make DEBIT transactions. This must obviously be a huge ordeal cause my bank is just a small residential chain and it even made it to their website... just be safe people!!!

[PatchowPietro]

what a cunt. doesn't deserve a penny

[ReBurn]

Thie comments are as ridiculous as the story.

smh

[IHateYouFanboys]

this is about more than just credit card details - the hackers, and potentially millions of other people all around the world if they sell/release the data obtained from the PSN - have peoples full names, date of birth, gender, home address, email address, etc.

that is a HUGE breach of privacy, and sony need to pay.

[MoreRPG]

yep but in this site thats hard to understand

[MoreRPG]

he has the right to sue sony after all his personal info is at risk

and you can say he choose to use his credit card, it doesn’t matter sony (like any other company) has to secure the client info

if u can understand that is because you are fanboy

[CharlesDCI]

So sue the hackers when they find them. Oh I forgot Sony has more money probably than they do lol.

[ndl1531]

wait did his info get stolen ? this idiot is suing sony when the investigation is still ongoing atleast wait to see what the conclusion will be. have to say tho i did see this coming . lets see how many other fools follow

[MegaSackman]

Humans...

[CharlesDCI]

Suing Sony for having their network methodically infiltrated is like suing someone for having their house broken into by professionals.

[ReBurn]

It's only like that if that person has convinced me that I can trust them to keep my money stored safely in their house and the professionals steal it then go buy a bunch of stuff online and ruin my credit. Otherwise it's not like that at all.

[TBONEJF]

SO MANY LAZY ASS PEOPLE would do anything to make a quick buck just because they can't get online and their credit card get stolen. That's just so sad.

[sak500]

Much sadder is the corporation worshippers like you who would see no wrong for the company who just screwed their customers.

You are like teh blind sheep who will just follow the master and not question or doubt any actions of it.

You are the worst type of people in teh world since you dont have feelings for others rather only a money mongering corporation.

Millions of peoples financial details have been compromised and yet you sympathize with sony.

shame on you keep living in your parents house cuz real life is much tougher.

[Bolts]

I don't feel bad for Sony at all because there is a possibly that my personal and credit info were compromised. I don't need this shit, not now. I'm trying to buy a house right now and I don't need some stupid fraud claim screwing up my credit score.

[YodaCracker]

What a complete disaster. I feel bad for Sony for once....

[tenmohican]

he is bloodsucking from the bloodsuckers.

[BrianG]

Funny part is Sony just said they properly encrypted credit card information and had both hardware and software security measures in place.

This case will more than likely be thrown out.

EDIT: Check the blog for the info I'm referencing. Or the article dealing with the Q and A on the PS3 page.

[Noctis106]

bunch of pathetic people who try to get $$$ from Sony because they can't make enough $$$ for themselves

[PS3n360]

the day i enter my credit card # into a home appliance is a cold day in hell indeed.

[BigKev45]

I guess this gen was about red ring of death vs. PSN hacked.
Big f*** ups on both sides.

[rmedtx]

Another parasite wanting to make money out of a big corporation.

[sak500]

Good for you siding with money hungry corporation who screwed it's customers with 699$ price tag, false promises, fake claims and now the information leaking debacle.

YOu'll do good in real life ... for about 5 mins

[Sieg]

Do people read the User Agreement? http://us.playstation.com/s...
Seriously read number 15.
Despite that if you are sueing Sony, don't forget they have money to hire lawyers too. Even if you win and Sony cough up some money, they're still rich from making tv and other electronic equipments. Money can be loss but it will always come around.

[DAS692]

To try to get money out of another big corporation. A corporation, who's products THEY STILL USE! Look, they aren't even SURE if any TRULY VALUABLE information was leaked! In the case that it was, then ok, but they haven't even taken the liberty of checking their bank accounts! Secondly, being hacked is something that could happen to any corporation! It's like trying to blame Wal-mart for letting a homicidal shooter into one of their stores that shot you. Wal-mart has security, but does not check EVERYONE that enters the store. They have no case, and they had better start blaming someone else for the breach into Sony's security system! NOT SONY THEMSELVES!

[imgunapounduout]

question can they get ur card info from netflix or vudu since its on the ps3???

[sak500]

LOL what you can expect from sony worshippers on n4g which have taken over the site since 2009. They will side with sony if sony had an oil rig explode and leak millions of gallons of oil in the ocean. They will not see it as sony's fault.

These kind of fanboys are the worst and have really brought down the impression of actual gamers. At least 360 fanboys did admit to RROD issues, over priced accessories and even still complain about LIVE prices but sony lovers will just be blind to any wrong doings of sony.

Anyway Karma is a biatch.. Sony and their suing and draconian tactics in music industry, games etc has come back to bite them in the @ss.

[Condemnedman]

Sony are a Joke

[harrisonxxi]

As long as sony was PCI compliant, this case is dead in the water.

[Jdub895O]

Damn it im tired of these fuctards trying to get money out of sony.This article may not be bullchit but honestly Sony cant be sued now it takes weeks..even months for the lawsuit goes through.I really REALLY want to see a picture of this prick thats sueing. I sorry i usually judge people of how they look,and im usually 75% right.Sorry guys i hate cheap asp motherfpuers trying to cheat some money out of troubled people/corporations .Some people need to work for a living!

[CrimsonEngage]

Do we really need any more articles about how PSN got hacked? This shit is flooding the front page of the site and i'm sick of seeing it. No one cares!

[JeepGamer]

1. You are doing precisely and exactly what the people who stole your information want you to do. The real criminals in this are the hackers and you are doing their bidding.

2. What length of time would have been 'acceptable' before they told us? You want to know 'day one'? I'm sorry if investigations in to a huge network containing tens of millions of users takes time but would it have really been so much better if they had released bits of information that they couldn't be sure of?

What you really need to know is 'What did Sony know and when did they know it?' before you make a judgment about how long it took them to inform us. They may be complicit or they may have done their very best, you don't know. A lawsuit may be completely in order or may be completely premature, you don't know.

[aaronobst]

^

Pretty much that

[BABY-JEDI]

Ive had to change my debit card details today, but i dont blame Sony, I blame the F*cking Hacking bast*rds. I would like to sue them for at least the inconvenience
Thank you very much

[BYE]

The fall of a giant.

[pcz]

sony takes dude to court for hacking ps3

anonymous hack sony for taking hacker to court

dude who had his ps3 hacked takes sony to court.

[BabyTownFrolics]

Q: Was my personal data encrypted?

A: All of the data was protected, and access was restricted both physically and through the perimeter and security of the network. The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken. The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack.''

- Q&A #1 for PlayStation Network and Qriocity Services
Posted by Patrick Seybold // Sr. Director, Corporate Communications & Social Media

(the link to the official playstation blog where this quote comes from makes this look like spam?)

personal data was not encrypted?

thanks sony, so knowing that there are folks out there trying to hack into PSN you still did not encrypt my personal info, thats some bullshit right there.

[Master of Unlocking]

As expected, here come the parasites to take advantage of the situation *sigh*
God bless America, I guess...

[saunders96]

Well I think this could of happened a few years ago with psp being hacked and all. Sony just pissed the hackers off and I'm sure non of this would of happened. It's amazing what people can do this day in age. We just got high speed in our town and now i don't have to wait till go on a business trip to play. pay to play coming for sony i forsee.

[mindedone]

What were this person's proven damages?

[Foxhound922]

Everyone needs to seriously stfu. Sony is not at fault here under any circumstance. they encrypted all the files you morons. how do you think they were safe and untouched for 5 years? the system, including the master key was hacked....yeah "hacked" which means taken! Now someone says they should be sued for not giving updates to consumers??? wtf? omg those couple days of them being silent really give you the right to sue them. obviously they were keeping quiet to to protect themselves and not divulge any information that could be harmful. you people are stupid, the lawsuit will fail for many reasons but people just like eating up the rumors and jumping on the "sony is doomed" bandwagon. some pimple faced no life hackers are prying into the psn and taking information and then we blame sony for trying to fix it and protect their multimillion dollar investment. we americans are so intelligent.

[VTKC]

First it was SNK that fell followed by Sega. It looks like Sony could be next in folding in the console wars. This is terrible. Less companies means less games and variety of games. I dont own PS3 but still this is bad news to me. Games can sometimes help influence other games to be created and give inspiration and ideas. I hope Sony is able to survive this incident so that it can still be in the competition between the console wars.

[thespaz]

Since hackers got into Sony's system, that means that Sony didn't have tight security there?

If you used 200 deadbolts and combination locks on your door and I shot it with a rocket launcher, does that mean that your security sucked?

No security system is 100%. It's not Sony's fault. It's the hacker's fault.

If you think about it, your information is at risk of being stolen almost everywhere you go. Every time you use your credit card. Every time you fill out paper work or forms. That's all stored somewhere.

It's too bad that this happened and hopefully it doesn't happen again, but I don't think Sony was ignorant about it. XBox Live is certainly not hack-proof either.

[unicron7]

Wanting something from nothing. Freaking comical. Every company gets hacked eventually and informs their customers of the breach. These people need to get real and get over themselves.

[gospelnote2000]

Just saw this article on Gamespot:

"As day eight of the PlayStation Network outage nears day nine, Sony has posted a new Q&A regarding the data leak that accompanied the service disruption. Two days after it said that personal information was compromised, the PlayStation-maker is trying to soothe customers' fears by saying that all credit card information submitted to the PSN was encoded.

Sony says all credit card info on the PSN during the data leak was encrypted.

"All of the data was protected, and access was restricted both physically and through the perimeter and security of the network," the company said in a statement on the official PlayStation Blog. "The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken. The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack."

The company said that the reason it has warned customers that their credit card data may have been stolen was out of an "abundance of caution." The company also pointed out that users' credit card security codes--often called CVC or CSC numbers--were never stored on the PSN or Sony's Qriocity media service, which was also compromised in the attack. These three-digit codes are usually necessary to make an online transaction.

The day after Reuters reported that Sony was working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation's cybercrime unit, the game giant also confirmed it is co-operating with "law enforcement." The company did not mention the FBI or any other agency by name, but did reiterate it is also working with a "recognized technology security firm" on the matter.

Finally, Sony somewhat tempered the prediction it offered on Tuesday, when it said that some PSN services would be back up within a week. "We want to be very clear that we will only restore operations when we are confident that the network is secure," the company said."

[ENDOFDAYS]

FUCK THIS SHIT DOG!! SO MUCH MONEY FOR NOTHING. I JUST GOT INTERNET A WEEK AGO AND THIS SHIT HAPPENS,HELL NO. THINK,SONY MAYBE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.FUCK SONY & PSN.

[badarcade]

I dont understand how its sonys fault, maybe i dont know the situation but how about let sony fix PSN first. We dont need to make it any harder on them, theyve got enough in their hands.

[Pl4sm4]

just hillbilly trash looking for money to pay for crack ... typical us ... it amazes me

[Surt]

All this "end" talk of Sony. Only kids would think Sony would snuff out. Sony is not sega. An old gentleman on here the other day said it best, "Sony will most likely come out of this unscathed. You can't beat multi-billion dollar corporations. They have and will always own you"

The psn is free. You lost nothing. "I can't play call of duty online!" Really you shouldn't. The online is what makes that game garbage. Play the story. Get the trophies you cheeky monkeys. The psn will be up. Bitch if it was you that lost actual $$.

These are just Fucking sharks suing. Same asses that wish they could slip at kmart so they could sue and not work. Wankers.

[zoks310]

Right on brother.

[Pl4sm4]

@Surt true man ..

[Pl4sm4]

anyone who tries to screw sony ... LOLOL good luck getting something out of it

[ENDOFDAYS]

ANYONE WHO TRIES TO SCREW SONY? THEY ALREADY SCREWD SONY!!! FOOL!!!!!!LOLLLLLLLLLLLL

[CanadianTurtle]

What about the hackers? Why isn't anyone mad at them? Somehow Sony are the only bad guys here?

[mummra08]

i hope Sony loose out big time it is there network and its there fault. so what if the online is free only reason for a PS3 is the online to me this is all sonys fault and i am glad there shares have dropped. thay suck and as for comments like psn is free you lost nothing fuck that. psn is not free as you have to buy a PS3 to have it. i am glad there getting sued wasters. ill be online on my 360 knowing my debit card is safe death to sony after this and with there shares dropping daily its not looking good.
and with lg taking them to court aswell good job. and one more thing anybody who thinks this is not sonys falt is misguided.

[MischievousIQ]

My M5 got broken into two weeks ago, maybe I should sue BMW for not making my car more anti-theft proof. /s The power went out during a storm for 6 hours last month. There have been 137 destructive tornados reported this week alone in the southern part of the US. A tsunami devastated Japan. PSN got hacked. Shit happens, deal with it and move on.

[Surt]

@mummra08 I like how you make no apologizes for your fanboyism. Lol Hey if you have a favorite system, you have a favorite system. But to say "safe" with 360? Now come on, you broke a smile as you were typing that.

You blokes blame the bank for being robbed? Despite it's safe guards, vault, ext. To that I say congrats. May good fortune smile on you and give you a kmart to slip on so you can sue. Geez.. Kids.

I see the heading now on my local news paper. "sony stock dropping by the hundreds everyday! Sony is about to pack it in. Ps3 caused the Sony CORPORATION to sink! 360 fanboys throw orgies, many 360 brink" Ps3 will be just fine.

[mummra08]

i am not a fanboy but i think cus i said this is sonys fault about there network i must be. so if anyone speaks bad about Sony there a 360 fanboy is that right. Sony is to blame its there network its there responsibility. end off

[Surt]

It's your money in the bank, so it's the banks fault for getting robbed. Pretty much summarized what you said there huh? And your entitled to ya opinion dude. I just called you out when you poked at the ps3 but couldn't resist that urge to show the 360 some love. Lol

[clindiesel]

Go figure people in Alabama don't know how to read the terms of agreement.

[kevin360uk]

If Sony,provides the user the option to input his/her personal/credit details, then Sony have the responsibility of ensuring its safety.

The fact PSN is a FREE service is irrelevant, they still hold responsibility of having solid security.

[hiredhelp]

End of the day sony been threw some shit recently not to mention there country with the quake and all. every company who has assets gets breached or vunrable to it.

sony isnt the bad guy. they just said no to geohotz. and took rubbish from ANON, im sticking by sony this doesnt change anything for me.

[mummra08]

wow a true psn fanboy im sticking by Sony. right you will not fill that way when ure credit card bill come ffs so what if there country got messed up its not my problem its there network and people like you making excuses for them is messed up. its there fault that they waited 6 days to even say anything about credit cards being hacked poor Sony fuck Sony after this wake up don't be such a lemming

[hiredhelp]

I'm a fan of Sony I'm a fan of custom building computers with ASUS boards i prefer intel to AMD .
BUT I ain't no boy 33. If my card got abused my bank covers it.

You need to start understanding this whole crap that's gon on .
Sony took there time cos they needed to make sure.

If somebody told you your house been robbed . You be panicking wanting to get home quick, but what if you were to go home find out all was is a broken window.
My point is if Sony reps made a misleading early statement wnas found out not t.o be the case they could been in for some ass whooping for liein..