Next Gen Graphics Engine- Octave Engine for Tekken 6

This video demonstrates how the arcade version of Tekken 6 uses the "Octave Engine". The engine will be released December 2007, when Namco then will be able to utilize it fully to it's limits. Then they can improve water effects and other effects they're working on currently on Tekken 6.

[ENNO]

looks good...ps3 is starting to not only new games but new engines...very nice :D

[Sevir04]

what's even more is that tekken 6's graphical presentation has improved a lot since i last saw it. it looks good now, and not just like a tekken DR clone. it looks alot more fluid and the engine looks cool two. i cant wait. it is hitting arcade this year and PS3 early next year sometime between Jan and March 08. cant wait to see it ^^

[aDDicteD]

yup it changed a lot!=)

[amilimos]

You're really right, i was so disappointed when i saw the first gameplay tekken 6 trailer in comparison to soul calibur's ... but it's been getting better ever since.Way to go Tekken!!! The Ultimate Beat' Em Up of all time!

[Bonsai1214]

isn't it more of a physics engine... but w/e it looks cool, how the water works.

[Ri0tSquad]

looks so good

[socomnick]

I though that water looked kinda stupid. :/ Ive seen better water in Unreal Engine 3. The water in octave kinda seemed to react like gelatin.

[Robeezy]

Doesn't really look THAT great, but alright i guess, nothing crazy or anything.

[xc7x]

and i'm a Tekken fan but the game action didn't seem like it was using the water physics to full potential there,much less the animation frame rates weren't so smooth i.m.o.

[PimpHandHappy]

this year? Doesnt sound like it

[kmega87]

they say that it is the arcade version of the game. will it be the same for ps3?

[SnakeCL]

The arcade board they're using is essentially a PS3.

[Ahmadinejad]

i have compeltely lsot faith in japanese developers on technology point of view although this looks very intresting but its nowhere near what Epic or ID and Crytek are doing

[mirroredderorrim]

Why do you ask those questions? The article/video is about visuals, not gameplay. Another thing, it's a console based game engine which IS impressive, at least to me.

[Ahmadinejad]

well i am sorry to say it but i thought they improve graphics to create immersion and taht would improve the quality of the game and gameplay using it. all is said was that this doesnt do none of that. no hatin

[KyonoRocks]

Ahh Tekken 6.. the only game I wish the 360 had

[RelloC]

tekken and twisted metal (and this hasnt even been announced) are the only sony ip's im envious of at the moment.

no, no i lied... gran turismo blows away all our racers also.

[mirroredderorrim]

I didn't disagree with you, by the way. Visuals don't affect gameplay too much, unless you have something barring you from seeing which can affect gameplay, hindering you in some way.

Camera angles are a good example.

[UltramanJ]

Glad to see that T6 is finally starting to look like a current gen title. The Octave engine looks pretty impressive as well.

[goodganja]

Tekken on the Arcade has always had inferior graphics to the home version. Starting off with Tekken Tag. So if this looks beautiful on the Arcade, the PS3 version should be leaps and bounds better graphically than oooh lets say Dead or Alive.

P L A Y B 3 Y O N D

[J@D]

Nice and kool.

[Wii60_FTW]

looks crap. would run better on 360.

EDIT: u mama.

[vaan]

FOAD

[kingofps3]

DOA 4 < Tekken 2
DOA 10 < Tekken 6

[Wii60_FTW]

NOP

[INEEDINFO]

dont really know how that would add to game play wise, unless the water can slow down ur kicks.

[Genki]

plays second fiddle if the combat itself is largely the same, and that ugly little juggling clip told that tale accurately enough for me.

I'm sick of seeing fighters with that floaty, garbage collision detection. Somebody needs to knuckle up and implement sensible(not necessarily too realistic, just something that makes sense) collision detection in a game. I love Tekken and VF, and I have for over a decade now, but it's getting old seeing a jab take precedence over a lunging, forceful attack. I'm sick of seeing weak little pokes come out on top and interrupt motions that have momentum behind them.

I'm also sick of seeing those same corny pokes and jabs juggle an enemy for eternity with these weird, floaty "pop-up" physics. Allow for juggles, but they should be creative. Tekken and Virtua Fighter have been surviving on the same mechanics for far too long, and I think it's beginning to become unacceptable. Have all the cute little water and lighting effects you want, what I'm seeing from this is the same I saw when I played Tekken 2 on my PS1.

I love Tekken, and I'm sure I've logged thousands of hours in 2, 3, TAG, and 5(4 completely SUCKED), but really now, it's time for a change. It's the same tired old mechanics...frame-based fighting is getting ridiculous, b/c current hardware offers so much more in the form of dynamic gameplay. Look at Euphoria. I would kill to have a fighter built around an engine like that. Sorry for the long-winded post, but I've got a real chip on my shoulder here. Fighting has been my favorite genre since SF2/MK, and it sickens me that it's degraded into 3 or 4 pillars hanging on by the life support of tired old mechanics that only arcade dwelling junkies tend to hang onto. Fighters are dying because it's been the only genre in the past ten years to see NO major advancements. The most original fighter in the past 6 years or was DBZ Budokai. Pathetic.

[MRMagoo123]

Spot on there genki i couldnt say it better myself but ide like to add that when someone gets hit in these games they dont have the impact ide like to see it just seems weak every hit seems like it is hitting something none organic i want to here the soft thuds and stuff u here when someone really gets hit and i want the attacks to be a bit more solid as in when it hits ur fist for example pushes a little into the stomache not just hits the skin like there made of stone i hope u guys get what i mean

[Genki]

I am absolutely SICK to my STOMACH with the shoddy hit reaction in games today.If I jab someone doing a round kick, there's no reason their kick should magically disappear and revert to some canned hit animation, no reason AT ALL. That's on of the standout things about FNR3, is that when you hit someone, it registers as it should. If you interrupt someone else's attack, their momentum still carries them through their attack, they will either just miss you, or do less damage. THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. Frame based fighting worked 6 years ago, but it's really hurting the integrity of the genre itself. Technology offers too much to still be using this frame-based, completely canned trash.