The Latest GamePro Magazine issue has some new info about Uncharted 3:Drake's Deception Multiplayer. Developers mention their influences on the multiplayer of UC3 and admits stuff they done wrong on Uncharted 2 MP.
Uncharted 2's multiplayer was pretty fun I thought but it wasn't addictive and it took far too long to connect in it. Hopefully Naughty Dog have learned from this RedDead I think that the plots of 1 and 2 are very good up until the point where weird creatures start getting involved. Yeah Drake is one of the best in gaming.
Yeah my problem was I couldn't get hooked...I don't know if thats the game's problem though. It's just me. i think the best thing about Uncharted is Single player. Mainly because of Nathan Drake. The plot of 1 and 2 are very average, but the main character is one of the best in gaming I think.
I was hooked on it, just didn't like some of the mechanics, which ultimately didn't make it a "Go to game" For example, boosters felt worthless and too similar to each other (they should just be taken out), they changed the damage (which in turn changed weapon balance and changed the platforming aspect), etc, and I wasn't fond of people quitting matches and not having the ability for others to join back in (should have been available for some of the playlists, especially the non-ranked ones) I also hated how quick you could throw nades (Manual Martydom as I called it), and melee was pretty bad as most of the time it meant a double death But, considering the lack of experience you have to give it to these guys. They got some help, but the combined work proved to end in a very fun experience. They managed to have features you expect MP-experienced devs to have but don't (theater, co-op, skins), as well as a depth of modes, options, etc. For a first time, it was very well put together. It can only get much better if they are going to decide to make MP an important aspect and actually focus on it more. Split-screen is all but confirmed and you can tell that they are keen on capitalizing on what they have, which IMO is a solid MP product.
@Alpha-Male- Yeah, I didn't like that booster COD like crap. I like my multiplayer games like Halo 3 and Warhawk...NO BOOSTERS. The only thing that should seperate whether a player wins or loses is experience and skill. A little off-topic, but I HOPE that theirs no b.s booster class in Starhawk. That would ruin the balance of the game entirely.
just dont third person call-of-duty-rise it then it should be all good. I still play uc2 multiplayer to this day, so im pretty sure naughty gods will impress
The MP was pretty good before they started fucking with it.
@Alpha-Male22 Yeah I think that's the exact word I'd use to describe Uncharted 2's multiplayer, solid. It wasn't amazing, but it didn't do anything wrong either. My biggest complaints though were the extremely generic weapon sets and lack of attachments. I've used an m4, rpg, ak47, desert eagle, magnum, grenade launcher, etc. way too many times in other games to have much fun with them in this game. It has pretty much the most generic weapon set I've ever seen in a game. Developers shouldn't be afraid to make some ridiculous fictional weapons like guns that shoot electricity/fire/ice/acid/expl osive rounds or guns that look like they were custom made out of weird materials or objects. Another thing I didn't particularly like about U2 multiplayer was that pretty much every map was tomb themed with ruins. Give me a place to fight in that doesn't look like no one has been there in hundreds of years. Even if it doesn't really fit the setting of the sp, it would make it better if they made maps like some kind of modern/futuristic city, some kind of beach resort or some bizarre area that you wouldn't normally think of a firefight going on in. Just anything besides ruins and tombs, as it's kind of getting old.
^^ It only takes long to connect if you havent played in a while, I play dailey because it is addictive to me and it takes about 10-15 seconds to connect. It does take some time to find players for a match if your playing during a quiet time of day, thats the only thing I hope they improve - The Match-making menu. Maybe the multiplayer could have been better, but I bought it for the amazing SP which was more than worth the money, and then you have all of that extra content for re-plays. The multiplayer was just a bonus for me but ended up being really great and well-built, felt more than just an add-on! Uncharted 2 really is an amazing game with what it brings to the table.
@ Pixel_Pusher Ya, that's what happens when you try to make it appeal to the masses. Still fun, but not as good as it was before. Hopefully U3 turns out to be just as good.
At least for a while. And the "weird creatures" in the first game were one of the main highlights in Uncharted 1. You couldn't just sit and take cover. It was a surprise and a game changer.
@rabid- Yeah, I agree. I thought it was addictive for like the first two weeks...but then I stopped. I haven't played since June. In fact, I just gave it away to my friend a couple weeks ago. I LOVED the single player..but the MP didn't capture my long-term interest. And what was even worse is that virtually NO ONE bought the new co-op map packs(Highrise etc.) Everytime I wanted to have a game in one of the new DLC map packs, I'd be waiting for half and hour and nothing. @redDead- Yeah, the SP was better than the MP IMO also. For Uncharted 3, Naughty Dog should focus on creating 4 player online story co-op with an even longer single player story with even more variety. That would be awesome.
Naughty Dog have a winning formula if the single player is as fun and interesting as the first 2. If multiplayer is to have a hope then they will have to widen its appeal as I tried it again a few months ago an there had been very few people on that day. If they can get more people playing then great but if not then it will be irrelevant to me.
Actually; loads of people bought the DLC Map Packs. Though I noticed that you are only put into games with people who only own the same combination of map packs as yourself. If you buy both DLC Map Packs it's pretty easy to get into a game.
@BloodRaid- Well, you need to define what "loads" is. There was a point where UC2 multiplayer was the only MP game I was playing and in all the time I played, I've only had TWO experiences where another person actually had the DLC co-op map packs.
Okay...to the contrary, there a time where UC2 was also the only multiplayer I played and during those times, there "LOADS" of people playing the DLC. The days you were playing isn't a representative of everyday UC2 is played online dead
I actually did get addicted to the multiplayer when I first got my hands on it. As of now its not as addictive and I play usually when I have time here and there but as a BIG Uncharted fan this is my go to game whenever I play online most of the time. I really enjoyed the map packs and they should release more maps like high-rise where there so much going on and the environment plays a role in the map; For some reason thats an element I really like. One thing that they should try to balance out though is the melee system in the multiplayer.. Other than that ND really implemented the multiplayer perfectly to the Uncharted Universe which I truly respect since the game is very story driven. They need to fix the matchmaking too... I always find myself in a game where the majority speak another language and at times it gets annoying and confusing just hearing them talk since I cant understand a word there saying
Uncharted 2 had only one flaw, lack of weapon attachments. Everything else, the story, dialogue, character formation, graphics, online multiplayer and coop, were the best of the best. By far my favorite game since Zelda-OoT.
The guns lack weapon attachments because there was no ads... I also did not mind the boosters that were not overpowered... The wall Hack and other perks like stronger mele killded the game for me... But THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS NO ADS.. I HATE HALO and all games with no ADS.. who wants to shoot across the map from the hip? thats why I only used the FAL and I beasted with it... If Naughty dog CAN DO WHAT SOCOM 4 DID and add a ads option and weapon attachments it will beast..
The disagrees are a bit unfair, I've already had about a quarter of the people who still play uncharted 2's multiplayer disagree with me
your opinion but uncharteds mp hooked me like crazy till this day i play it and theres 60,000 plus ppl playing when i connect. I think uc2 mp is one of the best, well done and addictive mp's with beautiful boards, great cover system and so much more.
Oh sh*t look like i need to go back to the naughtydog's forums they clearly not listening to the people on that site. i bloody hope they dont use matchmaking. do not listen to other devs. right im off to naughtydog's forums. there gonna be alot people there. http://forums.naughtydog.co...
I loved the multiplayer it reminded me of gears of war without the chainsaws the way you latched onto walls etc it was a lot of fun and the co-op elements were fantastic. Not bad for there first attempt no doubt the 3rd game will improve on it.
UC2 is Top 5 of my fav games.....but i could care less about the MP. some games need it...UC2 didnt. it's strong SP made it what it was and is.
I actually really enjoyed the multiplayer portion of Uncharted 2. In fact, I still pop it in occasionally. I'm really looking forward to seeing what ND have enhanced for Uncharted 3. I still think Uncharted is by far the best thing about the PS3.
GOTY Contender already.
Lol at your disagrees. Of course Uncharted 3 will be a GOTY contender. Even a Game of the decade contender. Uncharted 2 is the most top notch game ever made. It's going to be a hard game to top but I'm expecting Naughty Dog to do it.
GOTY contender, but L.A. Noire will take that crown.
Yes, just check the awards, Uncharted 2 is the best game of all time, with more than 100 Awards. And Half Life 2 or HL 1 is in the 2nd place.
UC2 is a great game, but it did nothing to push a genre. it was a top notch effort from ND but the game isnt one that sets a standard all around like a HL1/2 did.
ALFAxD_CENTAURO deserves more Disagrees. He is Trolling for agrees with that Lame,Obvious and Pointless comment like that. I ALWAYS Disagree on the principle of them not adding ANYTHING to the discussion besides being a cheerleader.
I love the freedom in Uncharteds Multiplayer it feels like I'm playing the single player because the characters can do most things you do in campaign.
I do feel though that it was unbalenced in some places.
The main thing which buged me is that there should of been a mode for just friends who talk to each other on the mic so they can vs other people who are doing the same thing.
It's unfair sometimes when you get a team of friends talking to one another who are against the team your in with a bunch of random people who most of time don't want to talk to anyone. It kind of gives them the advantage since they can plan and tell their friends where to go. The other reason is that most groups of friends just mess around and spoil the game, then your team leaves and you have to go and search for a new match all over again.
Uncharted 3 will be superb! Cannot wait for this amazing looking game! finished 1 and 2 got platinum for both :)
same here, i beat both games at least 4 times
i beated uncharted 1 more then 7 times , i know where all the treasures , i can get it platinum in less then 10 hours , i got platinum in uncharted 2 in the same day too and completed it more then 4 times and i'll play it again in holiday :)...
Red Dead Redemption and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood as influences you say? I could not think of two multi-player games from 2010 that would be better to be inspired by!
overhype! worst game of the year, trust me
I'd say UC2 was one of my top favorite games this gen right next to Episode 2 and Heavy Rain.
what you talking about overhyped! worst game of the year, have you been livin under a rock or something lol Uncharted 3 will look really good
Dont feed the troll...
“One thing we learned from UC2 MP was that damage/health should be “the same or similar to single player”. Sounds like they didn't learn anything then. People wanted the game to play like it did before the crappy patch that decreased health and made taking cover pointless. Now the multiplayer is "I shot you first so you die" rather than making intense firefights like it was on launch. I'll just rent Uncharted 3 for the single player and return it.
I actually agree, games like that take NO skill as it's just the first person to fire a bullet wins. I like the health system in KZ3, it actually gives you time to turn around and start shooting, and it comes down to who has the best accuracy. I just hope they keep the punishments from UC2 so people don't rage quit, and if they do they loose money or their level is reset. Also I hope the online co op is as good as it was in UC2, I spent more time on that than I did on competitive MP.
agree!!I liked the mp demo more than the real ting, it was weird or maybe because i played to much !!!
hey, all I want is 4 player split-screen versus. there's nothing that beats sitting on a couch with your friends, playing 4 player. I'd much rather have 4p splitscreen then 2p splitscreen co-op.
I'm very dissapointed with you killzone the co-op was still cool though.
1. to feel more competitive, yes it's one of the most fun multiplayers out there, but when you play a game like socom, it feeds your competitive side. I guess selectable weapons, more diverse weapons, and weapons that really differ from eachother(as far as recoil, power, etc. also a single shot power rifle like the M14) would help that.
2. Vehicles would bring this multiplayer over the top, it really makes players feel like they have more options, and with the platforming it would be interesting(Buggys Bikes,just as long as they are roofless).
3. Something powerful, not airstrikes but something, maybe weapon attachments.
4. Active maps somethings around certain maps players can interact with like the man launcher in MGS4
Things they could use;
1. Some new creative multiplayer modes
2. offline split screen multiplayer.
3. some sort of advancements in melee, or the melee system
UC2's MP could've been good, if I never had to wait for 35 minutes just to join a game. Burnout Paradise to date is the fastest game to date in terms of joining a room.
I never had any problems connecting to UC2 MP but I didn't really get into it at release time but rather a few months down the road.
Out of my PS3 exclusives, (and all my games total, if you're asking), I think Killzone 3 has better graphics than Uncharted 2. I think Uncharted 3 will be the game that shows what the PS3 is all about. The fans. They will squeeze better graphics out of the system. (better than KZ3) They will deepen their multiplayer, not only copy from others. They will lengthen the Single-player. They will balance the Multiplayer. This is what Naughty Dog has always been about, and I can't wait for more info on Uncharted 3.
well the art style of KZ and Uncharted are quite different.. Killzone has always try to capture the realism when it comes to graphics where as Uncharted has more of the cartoonish feel and look. @SoulMisaki Im not downplaying uncharted's graphics by calling it cartoonish it just has more of the animated feel that pixar, dreamworks would bring. IMO when it comes to how real things look KZ2 tries to achieve that art style better than Uncharted 2..But like I said you cant really compare them because they have different art styles... Though i'll say this, uncharted is quite an eye candy since its more colorful and nice to look at just like an animated film.
I think the look of Uncharted is anything but cartoonish, just more colorful. Killzone 2 Graphics = Uncharted 2 Graphics Uncharted 3 Graphics+Gameplay > Killzone 3 Graphics+Gameplay. That's what I'm trying to say I guess. All they need to do, for this game to be better and more played than pretty much anything else, is shorten the wait times and such, and deepen it.
yeah agree!!uc2 for me have better graphics because of the colors and set pieces ,I loved the jungle ,and snow, killzone is the same!!when you aim in uc2 look the amount of details on the guys ,well killzone do lots of things to cover the bad graphics part and uc2 give it to you raw!!
Just add map create hehe
I'm sure it's gonna be amazing, I still play and love UC2 MP to this day, but the ONLY thing I hate is SA, I hope they don't add SA in UC3.
It will be pretty good I think :)
Has anyone SEEN the magazine yet?
I think that multiplayer wise U isnt great it was more of a bonus feature to try and give the game a reason to come back to it. The Co-op modes were really fun though especially the gold grab mode. They should try and focus more on coop modes than competetive imo.
do you imagine six guys with those mechanics on a horde mode !!! with enemys comming from everywhere and more open spaces with jeeps and trucks ,omg waow that will be crazy ,just picture it!!
It was extremely fun to play online. I loved the fact that you could climb everywhere and the cover system was excellent. But if theres 2 things that i didnt like is that it took forever to level up and you always start out with the same weapon. Wait a sec i got another one. The desert eagle matches while fun have you running out of ammo thats almost impossible to find. Should be infinte ammo for those matches.
There better not be situational awareness in Uncharted 3.
Gears3 will destroy this game, no contest
Just like How Gears2 destroyed Uncharted 2 how many GOTY did Gears2 get ......oh wait
Shut up troll.
my response to seth
proof that N4g is full of crybabies. wow at the disagrees. what good is GOTY when nobody plays the game a year after launch? don't say MP cause Uncharted MP sucks, just look at the numbers playing today, dismal.
@ seth Come on now people still compare Gears 2 to U1 graphically, and U2 didnt have half the problems Gears 2 MP had at launch. If yu havent played both dont comment on what will be better, N4G is full of crybabies? I dont think so, i do think most just hate trolls like yourself. BTW hop on U2 MP and there are people still playing everyday online
U2's MP was great for a a company's first time at that ever. Tons of potential.
I loved Uncharted's MP, I'm not a big multiplayer guy but UC2 was my go to multiplayer game on PS3. I liked it's multiplayer leaps and bounds better than Killzone 2 and a little better than Killzone 3's mp. Uncharted 2 is sort of like my Halo 2 for PS3, that one game that constantly spun in my disc drive until the sequel came out.
I really really really hope they fix the lag,there was always a half a second lag that would gives out mutual kills! Also bullet should not have to travel before hitting target, they should hit target as soon as you 'fire' like the sniper for instance.
During the beta/early after release of Uncharted 2, the multiplayer was absolutely solid. But somehow ND added patches that progressively made it worse by actually unbalancing the weapons. Those who played or continuously are playing UC2 online know what I'm talking about That being said, the multiplayer is very addictive and requires a lot of teamwork on objective based matches