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Molyneux: "Sorry if I've Over-Promised"

Lionhead boss and newly-crowned holder of a BAFTA Fellowship Peter Molyneux has admitted making game features up on the spot to stop bored journalists falling asleep during interviews.

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SMOK3xFFx5210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

Over-promissing is an understatement. I don't believe he ment any harm however, he seems like a genuinely nice person.

@Warprincess116
"No he not. When he lie and say this is gone to be in my game and there a feature in my game that gone to change games forever. That called false advertisement. Im surprised no-one didn't sue him yet."

To bad there isn't a google translate from bad English - English.

Warprincess1165210d ago

No he not. When he lie and say this is gone to be in my game and there a feature in my game that gone to change games forever. That called false advertisement. Im surprised no-one didn't sue him yet.

slate915210d ago

I think he just gets too excited and too overly passionate for his games and says off the wall things he knows he can't come up with. I appreciate the visions, but just watch what you say because people, including myself, really believe you sometimes.

Led-Zeppelin5210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

WarPrincess you sound like an 11 year old.

Yi-Long5210d ago

.... but not listening to the fans, and focussing on the wrong stuff!

Fans said they wanted more challenging gameplay, yet it was only made easier. Fans said they wanted a longer and more epic story, yet Fable 3 was pretty damn short (also because it was way too easy), etc etc.

Molyneux is so focussed on bringing us random original small stuff, that he forgets the basics needed for a great game are still gameplay, challenge, story, etc etc.

captain-obvious5210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

well you still do that peter
i mean look at this

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

AAACE55210d ago

Don't worry Pete... I lost faith in you a long time ago!

@Warprincess... I have always told people the best way to write is to type it how you say it! But you should avoid that!

I know what you mean when you say "Gone", but seeing it in print just makes it look bad. Just go ahead and write "Going" please!

Chubear5210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

He's said THE EXACT same thing in the past lol He's a one man hype machine and those commenting on here about how he's so cutely innocent, over excited and doesn't really know how to curb his excited statements are just suckers that fall for his BS over and over again.

If I can find the past articles I'll post them but I know he's said the exact same words in the past. lol

I mean I really thought after the Milo thing that it was sure banker people would catch on to this man's schtick but no, people still fall for his BS marketing hype.

Come on, you don't remember him telling everyone Milo is real and is the first showing of what we'll be seeing Kinect do? Now go look about at that E3 "demo" and compare it to what you see now on Kinect gaming and ask yourself, how many times do I need to be bold-faced lied to before I see the next lie?

jjohan355210d ago

Where's Milo and Kate? lol

wallis5210d ago

As nonsensical as this comment is I agree. A drug developer couldn't come out and say their drug cured cancer when it didn't, the head of coca cola couldn't turn around and say their new brand of coke lowers blood pressure when it doesn't. What he's doing may have no malicious intent but it's still at the core extrememly damaging because people often buy games based on the hype that is generated from journalism and interviews.

At the very core of what he's doing lies the foundations for false advertising and it's not a one off either. It's not like GSC gameworld who promised the freakin' world in stalker SoC, got nailed by deadlines, had to cut half the features, but promptly STFU when it came to Clear skies and CoP. Peter Molyneux has done this for EVERY SINGLE GAME he has ever made.

tigerstyle5210d ago

fucking lol'd

Warprincess116 is a god damn winner.

AntoineDcoolette5210d ago

Rofl I remember being a young teen before I had a PS2 or other system of that gen and reading all the promises for Fable such as an aging character with full details for each development of age and all kinds of crazy shat. I was convinced it was going to be the end all to all games then Fable finally came out and didn't have like 90% of what was said it would have xD

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Solid_Snake-5210d ago

agree smoke. i think he has so many ideas running through his head he just cant keep his ideas to himself. he says these things( to the wrong people ) who then go and post on every website going.

i think he's a decent guy. just has an imagination of a 10 year old.

B1663r5210d ago

I am skeptical of this apology because I have an overdeveloped and paranoid sence of irony. Is he really this sorry, or is this just something he is saying to get us excited about his sense of remorse?

NoobSessions5210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

If you don't listen to the hype, Fable games are solid quality games. Fable II was really fun and different, but it was short for an "RPG". To me, Fable games are more RPG/Adventure games because of its linearity.

Still, I enjoy them. They get alot more bashing than I think they should.

B1663r5210d ago

Fable 2 was more of a polygamy simulator than an RPG...

B1663r5210d ago

Whats with the disagrees? Am I really the only one who went around and put a wife in every available property??? To the point that I had to spend all of my time going house to house to have sex with all of my wives to keep them happy, to the point of being unable to finish the game???

humbleopinion5210d ago

That's what RPGs should be all about: let you do what you want, and not force you through a tight design. Freedom.
It just seems that in your case, this freedom took it toll. With great sex comes great responsibility.

(at least he didn't put mothers-in-law in the game. Imagine having to deal with a multiple of those...)

Istanbull5210d ago

Fable games are solid??? LOL!

Only Fable: Lost Chapters was a decent game!

Fable 2 was mediocre, but Fable 3 was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played, it is failing so hard!

Watch the Angry Joe's video on 32 reasons why Fable 3 sucks!

Solid_Snake-5210d ago

why are you not accepting his apology when you have never even played one of his games.

stop trolling.

Godmars2905210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

At least until he talks up a game, then delivers on all points you mean. No point in holding a grudge against him once he delivers.

Its when he doesn't and the fanboys try to defend him with Populous and the like that chaffs me.

@xbox-threesixty:
I played Populous. Dealt with many a fanboy proclaiming Fable the new Final Fantasy. Such gives anyone who's been on a gaming forum the right to bitch because of the man's over-statements. Especially when they've been held up as gospel.

Godmars2905210d ago (Edited 5210d ago )

So you're saying that the man past failures shouldn't be forgiven in light of future successes?

Edit:
You people really make no sense.

humbleopinion5210d ago

The new Final Fantasy? Someone actually said that!?
Fable is not the best game I've played, but it's not that bad....

callahan095210d ago

I actually re-read some of the previews for the original Fable recently. Holy crap what he said that game was going to be would STILL be absolutely, astonishingly awesome and unprecedented in scope and quality. He really overshot the moon on that one. I can't believe any of us ever actually thought the game could be that...

sagapo5210d ago

yeah, sorry we believed it again

distorted_reality5210d ago

This.

We should all be used to Molyneux by now. The problem is, his promises sound so bloody good that we always give him another chance.

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Peter Molyneux recalls how Project Milo, the Kinect game with revolutionary promise, died a death

Vapourware can end up being the stuff of legend, like Rockstar's Agent, Star Wars 1313, or StarCraft: Ghost. Without ever seeing the light of day, these games never risked the possibility of being played and forgotten, and instead live on forever as the subjects of lengthy YouTube essays.

Still, Molyneux's most notable lost game (or tech demo, depending on who you asked at the time) was arguably Project Milo.

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darthv7229d ago

I can see the potential of the kinect hardware... its rather impressive tech, but it was just not meant to be for gaming. If anything, MS had a huge missed opportunity to have used it for the AR/VR projects.

S2Killinit28d ago

Missed opportunity? They lied. It was the biggest lie in gaming history.

merlox28d ago

You can use the Kinect as an SLS camera for paranormal investigations. So it wasn’t a complete failure.

Cacabunga27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Remember Star Wars Kinect announcement? Biggest laughable acting seen

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rlow127d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Do you mean about project Milo?

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-Foxtrot29d ago

It was built on lies Peter...you know this.

isarai29d ago

Bro that thing NEVER existed, what we got was a concept video

Knushwood Butt28d ago

"Unfortunately, as we were developing Milo, so the Kinect device was being developed. And they realised that the device that Alex Kipman first showed off would cost $5,000 for consumers to buy.

"So they cost-reduced that device down to such a point, where the field-of-view...I think it was a minuscule field-of-view. In other words, it could only just see what's straight in front of you."

Hmm, exactly what tech was in it, that was cut, affected the development? It was only ever interpreting visual and audio inputs right? The xbox was processing those inputs.

Nor do I see how the field of view thing is relevant to the discussion.

isarai28d ago

Exactly! Tf kinda BS statement was that? i don't really see how fov is relevant at all, since when do you move all around a room while talking/interacting to someone?

Amplitude28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

This is entirely untrue. There was never a 5000 dollar Kinect prototype that could somehow use a wider field of view to scan and import generated in-game items and advance AI by over a decade. Anybody that fell for this was a stupid moron child, myself included. Anybody that falls for this lie now is a stupid moron child who doesn't realize that these people *only* know how to lie.

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Is It Time To Trust Peter Molyneux Again?

Masters of Albion is already promising, but can we trust Peter Molyneux to not let us down again?

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OtterX303d ago

I came here to say that I don't want to hear any grand standing or over promises, and I was not left disappointed when I read: "Molyneux has “kept very quiet” about the project as he wanted to “let the game speak for itself”.

Perfect.

Cacabunga302d ago

Milo and Kate 😆
Stellar lie

DivineHand125302d ago

Project Milo could not have been released even if it existed. Why would a grown man want to simulate talking to young kids?

Profchaos303d ago

No he hasn't done anything to earn it if he actually delivers a fun competent game that's different

DiRtY302d ago

Come on, you can hate him for overpromising, but he made some fun games.
Fable I and II were awesome, as was theme park or Dungeon Keeper.

OldDuffer302d ago

Unfortunately its the haters who will always set the agenda on any such discussion. Peter is a visionary who delivered some exceptional games and invented genres. I consider myself blessed to have worked at Bullfrog and seen such creativity up close. The fact he over promissed on several projects later in his career is hardly an issue limited to just him, and certainly does not undo the huge legacy he has.
I was impressed by the showing at the event, and Im pleased to see he's learnt to shutup and just deliver a game. Maybe one two people can let go of the hate if he delivers on this project, but I doubt it - people love to hate.

CrimsonIdol301d ago

Amen. I respect Peter as a dreamer of interesting and grand ideas. Those who remember the golden years of Bullfrog knows how interesting their games were (and still remain) and the glorious feel of manipulating all the little simulation mechanics. If you understand many of his promises were "wouldn't it be cool if" hypotheticals that were strived for but ultimately not achieved (ie the realities of game dev) it makes far more sense than him being deliberately misleading.

Psychonaut85303d ago

No. Too many other developers who HAVEN’T scammed people and lied to our face for two decades. Don’t have time to listen to this dude anymore. If it’s good, good for those people that like that type of game. I still won’t ever trust him.

Plague-Doctor27303d ago

One of the dumbest questions I've ever heard. Guy hasn't told the truth in over 20 years

DodoDojo302d ago

Exactly, the dude likes to suck his own D and talk everything up.

Psychonaut85299d ago

I’m curious who the dislikes are on our comments. Either people old enough to have some deeeeeeep love for Black and White and Populous, or young enough to not know what a massive huckster Molyneux is. He’s the M.Night Shyamalan of game directors. Did a couple good things early on and somehow has managed to ride that for decades.

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Peter Molyneux's new game is set in Fable's Albion

Project currently codenamed MOAT.

JusttJD0099615d ago

M.O.A.T

Misleader of all time?

jznrpg615d ago (Edited 615d ago )

It’s between him and Phil. I’d vote Phil

Obscure_Observer615d ago

"It’s between him and Phil. I’d vote Phil"

If Phil were the man that made my life miserable, I would vote for him as well.

Regarding the topic, it could be both Peter and Phil working together.

M.O.A.T takes place in Albion, so it´s possible that Pete is working on new partnership with Xbox, which imo, is nothing but great news!

GhostScholar615d ago

What exactly has Phil mislead about? I can’t wait to hear the verbal diarrhea you come with.

Cacabunga614d ago

Still waiting for Milo and Kate.. most lmao game OAT

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Becuzisaid615d ago

Wait.

His name is still used as a selling point for new games? Seriously?

jznrpg615d ago

If anyone knows his name you have to be extremely skeptical that what he delivers will be anything like what he says it would be and that’s best case scenario.

RaiderNation615d ago

He's like the "Tom Clancy" of video games.

InUrFoxHole615d ago

Lol what the hell man?!?!?

ZycoFox615d ago

I remember Black & White (PC) but other than that I can only think of Fable, B&W was a pretty cool game tho at the time.

sagapo615d ago

Populous was another one designed by Peter, released before B&W, godlike game as well, pretty good too.

Giblet_Head615d ago

I quite liked Magic Carpet growing up.

Obscure_Observer615d ago (Edited 615d ago )

"His name is still used as a selling point for new games? Seriously?"

The guy is a gaming legend for gamers who actually knows and played his games, like Dungeon Keeper, Populous, Black & White and Fable for example.

Becuzisaid615d ago

I'm certain that most who actually know who he is would contest your use of legend. He's the living, human embodiment of false advertising.

Obscure_Observer615d ago

@Becuzisaid

There´s an abyss between false advertisement and bad games.

Most gamers will get excited for games from great gaming creators rather than focus on their exaggerated promises.

Kojima described his Xbox exclusive game as "very unusual like no one has ever experienced before, leveraging the cloud." He said all publishers he presented the project, called him mad and rejected his game but Microsoft, because it´s too crazy.

Is Kojima exaggerating? Obviously. It´s gonna be a bad game? Hardly.

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TheColbertinator615d ago

Imagine a game where Peter Molyneux presents an extraordinary set of ideas that players will enjoy for years to come. Now imagine that this particular game will come out because it will never exist.

Profchaos615d ago

Does Milo live under a bridge there

shinoff2183615d ago

Captain overseller is returning. Ain't heard his name in years.

shinoff2183614d ago

Peter was overselling games way way before cdprojectred, and bethesada

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