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China adopts HD DVD-compatible format as national standard; could trigger HD DVD price plunge

Breaking news: a new unexpected development coming out of China is shedding light on the reason that might have prompted Paramount and Dreamworks to jump ship and abort its support for Blu-ray. On September 7th, 2007, China officially dropped the bomb on the HD format war:

A consortium of Chinese university engineers and globally recognized manufacturers, in cooperation with the China High Definition DVD Industry Association (CHDA) and backed by the Chinese government, have reached an agreement on a standard specification for a blue-laser, hi-def disc, (note: not Blu-ray,) which is based on and fundamentally compatible with HD DVD with only minor adjustments, which will utilize the Advanced Audio Video Encoding Standard in Information Technology (AVS) codec developed by the Chinese government.

The newly standardized Chinese HD format is called "CH DVD", and is compatible with HD DVD. As China begins to roll out and adopt its own new "CH-DVD" players for the home market, China can also produce HD-DVD players for the rest of the world, at prices that can best be described as, "Chinese." For the embattled HD DVD, this dramatic turn of event has cemented its place and secured its future in China.

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nasim6074d ago (Edited 6074d ago )

CHina has adopted an HD DVD COMPATIBLE format NOT HD DVD format.

CHINA's own format is called CH_DVD .

this is nothing as it would neither help nor affect any camp whether BD or HD DVD

The CH DVD players would be launched in late fall of 2008.
By that time a Blue Ray player would be availbale for 100$

AVS is not supported by either BD /HD DVD

you can get a Blue Ray player for as low as 430$
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref...

BENQ is releasing a 200$ Blu ray player in NOVEMBER ,2007

by 2008 fall(when CH DVD is launched) most Blu ray players would be priced around 100--200$

ktchong6074d ago (Edited 6074d ago )

There go all the "HD DVD will be dead in 6 months/12months/1 year/very soon" predictions.

Now Blu-ray will never be able to completely defeat and kill off HD DVD, because HD DVD has China - and 25% of the world population - in its pocket.

blackmagic6074d ago

nasim, why do you behave like this? Do you have a reliable link to back up your claim that blu-ray players are going to drop 80% in price over the next year?

According to the article, the CH-DVD players play HD-DVD discs but HD-DVD players will not play the CH-DVD discs. In other words, China has officially adopted HD-DVD as the standard as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

This is another massive body blow to the bd consortium... ouch!

JsonHenry6074d ago

I never took sides in the HD format war before... but I hope Blu-Ray wins. I would much rather make a Japanese company rich than a chinese company(s).

the_round_peg6074d ago

Toshiba, the company that backs HD DVD and is at war with Sony, is a JAPANESE company.

jay36074d ago

That's what i was thinking 0_o

JsonHenry6074d ago

I know that, but if Blu-Ray wins, then China will only be making CH DVD machines for themselves instead of selling them all over the world.

Like a shadow I am6074d ago

If Blu-ray had any hope of ever winning this HD format war, it has now been completely dashed by two breaking news that will hit the mainstream media early next week:

1. China adopts HD DVD as the national HD standard!

2. new and improved 51-gig HD DVD approved for mass production: HD DVD is now bigger than better than Blu-ray!

Imagine how the mass consumers will see these two news, so soon after they've just read about Paramount/Dreamworks has jump ship and abandoned Blu-ray in favor of HD DVD. This format war is more about public perception more than anything.

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Crazyglues6074d ago

And so the war marches on....

cuco336074d ago (Edited 6074d ago )

this 'war' is far from over

this news has already been stated as a big blow due to ch-dvd players being able to read hd dvd disks

and this also confirms that only sony fans are the ones who toot BD as the victor long before the 'war' is over and the masses made their choice

THE_JUDGE6073d ago

does anyone realize that the Chinese bootleg more than they buy? There is over 1 Billion people in China many of which own consumer electronics. Guess how many legal copies of Windows Vista were sold the first week? 246. The chinese don't buy, they bootleg. This really has no effect on the future HD market because people won't be buying the movies, they will be bootlegging them. Money rules and people are paying for Blu-ray.

Meus Renaissance6074d ago

For a moment there I thought the Chinese government signed an exclusivity deal with HD-DVD. That would have made things interesting! But they're developing their own technology, that will be compatible with HD-DVD. It's still a major development but not on the scale I expected when I first read the title.

ktchong6074d ago (Edited 6074d ago )

*not* HD DVD format.

Meus Renaissance6074d ago

I don't know what this exactly means for the format wars in reality. Although this is good news for HD-DVD, to have a "brother" in China, how this does this affect the scale of balance, assuming it actually does? Any guess is just that now - guessing.

blackmagic6074d ago (Edited 6074d ago )

"The newly standardized Chinese HD format is called "CH DVD", and is compatible with HD DVD."

My understanding of that statement is that CH-DVD players will play HD-DVD discs but not the other way around which makes sense if the CH-DVD are essentially the same except with extra copy protection built in.

The biggest implication however is that many chinese dvd plyers are rebranded and sold by many big name manufacturers. It only stands to reason that HD-DVD players would be able to roll off the production lines with minor changes from the CH-DVD players... perhaps as little as a different firmware install.

Edit: article update "HD DVD and CH DVD are compatible, which means HD DVD players (with additional software) can read CH DVD, and vice versa."

Looks like the compatibility is better than I thought...

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7220h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio4h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga6h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21836h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga5h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan55m ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

purple1019h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac8h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic6h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

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thorstein19h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno15h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k414h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson13h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu14h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson13h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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This Gigabyte GPU is now among the cheapest RTX 4090s on Amazon after a hefty deal

On Amazon, you can't get an RTX 4090 for less than this one from Gigabyte, which now offers great value after an eye-catching April deal.

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